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OT: What Have You Read / What Are You Reading

It's been a while since we've had a reading thread. And at the end of the year, I always compile a list of the books I've read since January, so this seems like a good time - I can post my list.  I don't get through as much as I once did, because I have a 2 1/2 year old and just had another baby as well. Still, I try to get through at least three books a month. Here's my list for 2008:

1) Randy Shilts, The Mayor of Castro Street (nonfiction)

2) Flannery O'Connor, The Complete Stories (short story collection)

3) Charles Stross, Singularity Sky (science fiction)

4) James Baldwin, Going to Meet the Man (short story collection)

5) Edwidge Danticat, Brother I'm Dying (memoir)

6) Kim Stanley Robinson, Red Mars (science fiction)

7) Michael Ondaatje, Anil's Ghost (novel)

8) Flannery O'Connor, Mystery and Manners (essay collection)

9) Arthur C. Clarke, The Fountains of Paradise (science fiction)

10) Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five (novel)

11) R.D. Reynolds and Bryan Alvarez, The Death of WCW (nonfiction)

11) Orhan Pamuk, Snow (novel)

13) Samuel R. Delany, Flight from Nevèrÿon (fantasy of sorts)

14) Krista Tippett, Speaking of Faith (nonfiction - comparative religion with a bit of memoir)

15) Barack Obama, The Audacity of Hope (nonfiction)

16) Karl Pilkington, Ricky Gervais, and Stephen Merchant, The World of Karl Pilkington (humor)

17) Ursula K. LeGuin, Gifts (fantasy)

18) Toni Morrison, Sula (novel)

19) David Sedaris, When You Are Engulfed in Flames (essay collection/humor)

20) Greg Bear, Eternity (science fiction)

21) Greg Mortenson and David Oliver Relin, Three Cups of Tea (nonfiction)

22) Amit Chaudhuri, Freedom Song (collection of three short novels)

23) Guy Gavriel Kay, Tigana (fantasy)

24) Thomas Pynchon, The Crying of Lot 49 (novel)

25) Karen Armstrong, Islam (nonfiction)

26) China Mieville, Perdido Street Station (fantasy)

27) Mark Twain, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer (novel)

28) Mark Twain, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (novel)

29) Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn (fantasy)

30) Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States (history)

31) Garrison Keillor, Love Me (novel)

32) John Le Carre, The Mission Song (novel)

33) Neil Gaiman, The Graveyard Book (fantasy)

34) Jhumpa Lahiri, Unaccustomed Earth (short story collection)

35) Joan Didion, The Year of Magical Thinking (memoir)

I also reread several Neil Gaiman graphic novels at the beginning of the year.

My first book for 2009 was Otherland: City of Golden Shadow by Tad Williams, a Big Fat science fiction epic - at 770 pages, it's just the first of four books in a series. Yesterday, I started Alias Grace by Margaret Atwood. It's really good through the first fifty pages or so.

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I’ll have to think of all the books I read in 2008, but lately I’ve been trying to finish Stephen King’s Dark Tower Series. I just finished book #5 (Wolves of the Calla) over the holidays and I’ll be starting book #6 (Song of Susannah) any day now, I’m waiting for it in the mail. I know King isn’t regarded as high literature, but I really, really like the Dark Tower series.

Other than that, I just started a biography of Benjamin Franklin by Walter Isaacson entitled Ben Franklin: An American Life. I also got the new Andrew Jackson book, American Lion, for Christmas and I’m really looking forward to it. I’m also pecking my way through a collection of short stories by PKD.

Other books I got for Christmas that I’m going to read in the near future.
- Baseball Hacks: Tips & Tools for Analyzing and Winning with Statistics
- A basic Statistics refresher book
- Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln

Mix in a couple of philosophy books and that looks like what I’ll be reading for the next couple of months.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

speaking of King

I read Cujo finally. What a great book! I also heard he was very stoned and/or drunk through most of the writing process.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 9, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

aww yeah

I finished the series a few months ago. Probably my favorite ending of any series I’ve read (although I know a lot of people will disagree for very good reasons). What’s your opinion of Wolves? I honestly think the quality of writing dropped off from Book 5 on, but there’s some understandable reasons for that. More could be said on that topic, but the last two or three books get so wackily meta that it’ll, like, blow your mind, man, so I don’t want to say anything else. But yeah, that series is just a lot of fun, and King’s ability should not be ignored. Guy ain’t Shakespeare, but he knows how to tell a story.

In a general response to the topic, I’m currently reading The Crossing by Cormac McCarthy. Love that guy (literally and I also like his books).

by sakbaum on Jan 12, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also: I was about halfway through Infinite Jest when Wallace killed himself. It made reading the subsequent sections on depression/suicide pretty interesting.

by sakbaum on Jan 12, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Wolves a good bit. I thought it dragged on a little and I’m not a fan of all the New York stuff (I know Book #6 is 90% New York) but I enjoyed it. I think I can see where the series is heading (in regards to meta-stuff) but I’m still anxious to finish it. I’m about 100 pages into ‘Song of Susannah’ right now.

by xanthan on Jan 12, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

SoS is probably my least favorite of the series. It’s a total gap-filler, but a necessary one, I suppose.

by sakbaum on Jan 12, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that’s the feeling I’ve got going into the book. It probably doesn’t help me that Susannah’s character is probably my least favorite of the ’slingers.

by xanthan on Jan 12, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

King...

…what a sellout.

“I’ll just take this novel and maximize its earning potential by breaking it up into several separate novellas , heh heh”

I’m still pissed at reading/wallowing in Christine and then biking across Phoenix to see that joke of an adaptation.

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Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Jan 14, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There was nothing novella about any of the Dark Tower series. It would take two people to carry were it published as a single book.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 14, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With that said, the ending was not what I would have liked. Then again, it isn’t my story…at least in this world.

The man in black fled across the desert and Lars followed…

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 14, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lars, favorite book of yours in the DT series? I LOVED the Gunslinger and was a little sad when things started to shy away from the feel of the 1st book.

I’m a little half-way done with Book #6 now and I’ve liked it so far. Things are getting very meta-y.

by xanthan on Jan 15, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there a joke I’m missing here?

by sakbaum on Jan 14, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I read that Ben Franklin bio

a couple of years ago. Very interesting. Ben Franklin was one of the most amazing men that ever lived.

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by marklar on Jan 12, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My new thing is to have a rotation of one fiction, one history/biography/current events/political science, and one science/math. Right now my rotation is:

Your Inner Fish
Team of Rivals
Gravity’s Rainbow

I just finished a rotation of:

The Drunkard’s Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives
Ghost Wars
If on a Winter’s Night…

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 1:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I keep meaning to read Gravity’s Rainbow, but I fear it might make my brain explode.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is my seventh attempt.

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I once borrowed it from an old roommate and it just sat on my shelf for a year. I think most people have had a similar experience.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m always into the style, but it takes close reading. Close reading + 134,303 pages = easy to pick up a less daunting book. But the first 100 pages fascinate me enough that I keep trying..

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The key is to make up actual melodies to all the songs and sing them out loud!

I’ve actually read it (all the way thru!) three times, and much like Ulysses I found on the third try that I really did start to get it. Plus, I think the Reader’s Guide helps alot, though it’s difficult trying to figure out how best to use it without making the process cumbersome and unenjoyable.

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You really need to upgrade your RAM.

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by Natto on Jan 9, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m going to attempt that at some point. Having made it through Ulysses twice (it really is easier the second time around), I’m hopeful.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve also read Tristram Shandy, which I would recommend to anyone doesn’t mind getting a headache.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“there is a God that lives inside that book, and that God’s name is Muddle.”

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I have tried once so far, and gave up after about 100 pages. I had read Crying of lot 49 and then moved on to the rainbow, not as accessible a read for sure.
I read Ulysses too, and it helped immensely having a guide and a class to discuss it with. Otherwise, I don’t know how much I would’ve gotten out of it. Actually, I still don’t know how much I got out of it. Like the challenge though

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 9, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And, what did you think of Team of Rivals? Book report, plz!

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haven’t started it yet, but it’s next….

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, whoops, I flipped your current rotation with your past rotation.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that still Doris back when she wrote her own books, or after she started having her TA’s do it for her, I forget…

(good book either way, though)

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I tend to go with a rotation of one literary fiction book, one nonfiction book, and one science fiction/fantasy book, myself.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I try to focus and read one book at a time, but I always end up reading 2-3 books at a time.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I used to do that in my younger days, but I found that I ended up not finishing half the books I started, so I switched.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s pretty good. I’m at one word at a time right now, although that’s still giving me trouble.

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by Natto on Jan 9, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s exactly why walking into a Barnes and Noble is such a treacherous experience for me and my wallet

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 9, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

2 books at a time works well for me.

If I read only one I inevitably forget it at home, then I don’t have anything to read on my commute or at lunch. Reading 2 books at once is really easy if one is fiction and the other one non-fiction.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This will have to be What I Am Going to Read because I normally read during my commute, but FFVI is currently taking up that time. On the backburner, I have If I Never Get Back, Raptor Red, and Foley Is Good.

- If I Never Get Back is my requisite baseball book. I’ve been wanting to read it for a while and finally got it a couple months ago. It’s been sitting on my desk ever since though.
- Raptor Red is a novel by superstar paleontologist Robert Bakker, told from the perspective of a raptor. So you know it’s gotta be awesome.
- I’ve read Foley Is Good before, but Mick Foley’s books are always a fun read. I need to pick up Chris Jericho’s book next.

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by Natto on Jan 9, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If I Never Get Back

Incredibly fun baseball book. Pat Jordan’s “A False Spring” is fabulous if you want a painfully realistic look at a bonus baby flame-out.

by NearestNorwich on Jan 9, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else tackling 2666? I think I need a support group.

by Evan on Jan 9, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just got it for a Christmas gift and I’ve got it sitting on the bedside table till I get my nerve up. I’m reading A Mercy first (which is the first Morrison book I’ve really loved for a long time) and kind of racing through The Secret Life of Words for fun. But after I’ve limbered my brain up with those I’m going to get started on it.

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

YES

It’s one of my favorite books ever so far.

It’s a beast but it’s one of m favorite books to read.

Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jan 10, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, what's coming up next on my to-read list:

- In Search of Our Mother’s Gardens by Alice Walker
- Journey to the Centre of the Earth by Jules Verne
- The Great Awakening by Karen Armstrong
- The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay by Michael Chabon
- The Hollow Earth by Rudy Rucker

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Journey to the Centre of the Earth is my favorite Verne novel.

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Jan 9, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

JCB9

I would be interested to know what you thought of Red Mars. I enjoyed it quite a bit, and was really looking forward to the sequels, but I found them disappointing overall. Do you plan to read Green Mars and Blue Mars next?

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.

by Lyle on Jan 10, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I liked it a lot, although I like another Robinson novel, The Years Of Rice and Salt, better.

I am planning on reading the sequels – I’ve already picked both up. The series was recommended to me by my dad, who had a similar perspective to yours, except that he liked the first two and was only disappointed by the third.

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by jcb9 on Jan 10, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m guessing your dad and I are about the same age, which could perhaps account for our similar reactions. I may have forgotten whether I specifically like #2 or not. I think my perspective at the end of #2 was “well, I’ve invested all this time and I do want to see how it turns out; but this doesn’t seem to be going in the direction I had hoped/expected.” I’ll be interested to see what you think of them. I thought the politics got excessive and bogged down the story-telling. And the areophiles.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.

by Lyle on Jan 10, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, his exact complaint about Blue Mars was that all the interesting stuff about exploration and such got bogged down in politics.

As an aside, Kim Stanley Robinson has the same birthday as me, so is clearly an outstanding guy.

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by jcb9 on Jan 10, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kavalier and Clay

is a GREAT book. Just awe-inspiring how well Chabon writes. A very deserving Pultizer Prize winner.

My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.

by Kitspool on Jan 12, 2009 9:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In the last few months...

Merle’s Door: Lessons From A Freethinking Dog — Ted Kerasote
Marley and Me — John Grogan
The Art of Racing in the Rain — Garth Stein

All great dog books given to me as my 16 year old golden/chow mix Professor Griff was nearing his end.
RIP Griff < /tear >

Slam — Nick Hornby
Axis and Spin — both by science fiction great Robert Charles Wilson. jcb9 you should check him out if you’re not familiar (based on youre SF titles).

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Jan 9, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

RIP Professor Griff. Hopefully the S1-Ws are throwing you bones in heaven.

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve heard the name, but I haven’t read any of his stuff.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Spin won the Hugo award in 05 for best novel. The Chronoliths (2001) may be his best known work and a great place to start.

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Jan 9, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

bgunn

I picked up The Chronoliths at the library today. Thanks for the recommendation; I’m looking forward to it.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.

by Lyle on Jan 12, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that's a pretty heady list

Flannery O’ Connor FTW.

I probably shouldn’t say anything, but Howard Zinn’s followers drive me crazy.

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 9, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Enh, I’d hardly call myself a follower or anything. Just have an interest in social history and had never actually read that book all the way through before.

I’d be happy to be a follower of Flannery O’Connor, though, because she kicked ass.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

for the Flannery O’Connor love.

Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jan 10, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Zinn..

I could hardly read that book when it was my history “textbook.” Ok, it wasn’t my textbook but the teacher basically just told us to not buy the text book since we would only be using Zinn’s book.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."

by WalrusMan on Jan 11, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Huey Newton Reader

getting ready for grad school….

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What are you going to grad school for?

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

History

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Grad school people unite!

MA, English with a focus in Creative Writing, University of Illinois, Chicago, 2007.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And sometimes I think of getting a PhD. Heaven help me.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to get into law school eventually but I need monies ;(

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d pretty much have to get a full ride to go back to school. We ain’t got money and I refuse to go into any more debt.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If I don’t get a free ride, I’m not going. Plus that means that they probably don’t think I’ll make it

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Since when do computers need monies?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True story

I have a friend whose dad went to law school and managed to survive as a “free-gan”

aka, he took all the food the grocery store was going to throw away and lived off of that

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

think long

I mean, it can be exciting, but it’s quite the journey (which, for me, has yet to end)

by BigO on Jan 9, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that’s my plan! :D? :D?

D:

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

I’m finishing up my apps for grad school.
PhD in History, major field American History (20th century), minor field British history, specialization in the African-American civil rights movement in California, from the years 1930-1942, especially regarding the economic situation and the role of the black church in community outreach.

I love grad school apps…

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by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My main academic interest is African-American Literature. I must say, though, I know nothing about your specialization!

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And I know only marginally more than you!

Mainly because I went to college in Texas, so I’m pretty well versed in the Southern aspect of it.

Who are you reading now?

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by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Er, Margaret Atwood, who is neither African nor American!

I have some Alice Walker, Samuel R. Delany, Toni Morrison, and Octavia Butler in the queue, though.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Atwood

Depressing stuff there…..

Your queue looks interesting. Too bad I’m so lazy these days.

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by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What can I say – I’m a fan of depressing.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I am too

That’s probably 90% of what I’ve studied in history…

Holocaust class, Modern China class, African-American history, medieval European history

Wowzas

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by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Almost

All of history is depressing. Says something about the human race, doesn’t it?

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, in part it says that happy times are boring.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Happy times?

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was mainly thinking of the quote

"Every happy family is the same, but unhappy families are all different."

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or: “Ancient Chinese Curse: May you live in interesting times”

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Recent Japanese Slogan: For relaxing times, make it Suntory times.

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny,

(not haha funny) that I didn’t find Atwood that depressing. William Styron on the other hand is so unrelentingly depressing that I just gave up reading him. The Confessions of Nat Turner is an exception though.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

University of Texas?

Austin is my #2 choice on my list of grad schools, if I go that route.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 9, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I went to Baylor

UT is a pretty good school, plus it’s in the middle of a city that has both the “college-town” feel and a “big-city” feel.

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by baetown415 on Jan 10, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just found an awesome Longhorns cap. It’s burnt orange (of course) with the kanji for “bull” in orange thread. I love it, and it was only $10.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 10, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s at least an Affeldt-caliber acquisition, maybe even Johnson-caliber. Are you a native Texan or something?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 10, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just loved it because it’s orange (my favorite color) and has kanji on it. Plus like I said I’m looking at UT for grad school so in about a hundred years when I go, I’ll fit in.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 10, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a plan. Good luck with your endeavors toward that.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 11, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have a huge mustache and wear those corduroy sports jackets with the leather pads on the elbows?

(plz say yes)

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not yet

They give a massive makeover though.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You’re confusing him with oldjacket’s avatar.

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Jan 9, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

confusing him with oldjacket

cept that the wife made me get rid of the facial hair

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 9, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

fyi: I was pretty bummed when I found out that you look nothing like your avatar.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t look much like my avatar either.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I look pretty close to mine.

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by Natto on Jan 9, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve seen Natto’s Facebook picture, I can verify this.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I look almost exactly like mine.

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by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I act exactly like mine.

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by WalrusMan on Jan 11, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So he’s not Commission Gordon? Damn…

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 13, 2009 1:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just Read
Fantasyland – Sam Walker
A Short History of Nearly Everything – Bill Bryson

Just Started
Chinese Lesson – John Pomfret

Going to Read
Return of Depression Economics – Paul Krugman (that will be a reread)
Red State, Blue State – Andrew Gelman
Who Hates Whom – Bob Harris
Years of Rice and Salt – K.S. Robinson

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 9, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I finished A Short History… over the summer, did you like it? I really like Bryson, he’s a fun guy to read.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Talking to myself … if you like Bryson, check out ‘A Walk in the Woods’ his book on hiking the AT. Also, ‘Neither Here Nor There’ is his travel memoir from Europe, it’s pretty good too.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d also recommend Notes From a Small Island.

I didn’t much like his childhood memoir, though. I can’t remember the whole title – something about the Thunderbolt Kid.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he has a new book out on Shakespeare, anyone read it?

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I loved Short History,

… but I also somewhat recently read his book about returning to the States, “I’m a stranger here myself,” and was terribly bored by it. Don’t think I finished it.

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by lyricalkiller on Jan 9, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Love love love Notes from a Small Island. Classic Bryson.

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by PacBellBoozer on Jan 11, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard “A Walk in the Woods” is going to be made into a movie starring Robert Redford, but that was a little while ago. I wonder if they canned it

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by Useful_Idiot on Jan 9, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Being a refugee from Iowa, Bryson is a favorite of mine.

I have read everything he has written and am still amazed he was raised in Des Moines. ’Neither Here Nor There" is my favorite.

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by Baybear on Jan 10, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, love me the Bill Bryson, and that is amongst my favorites by him. He gets better with age.

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 9, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really liked A Short History of Nearly Everything and Years of Rice and Salt.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Recommended highly

Everything is Illuminated- by Foer

Ragtime – by Doctorow

Slaughterhouse Five – by Vonnegut

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by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I’m woefully underread on Vonnegut. I’m pretty ashamed of that.

by xanthan on Jan 9, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha, I am too, but I never really got into novels until last year. Vonnegut’s a character

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by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve only read Slaughterhouse-Five, The Sirens of Titan, and Cat’s Cradle, which are pretty much the most obvious ones.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

those are some of the best but there are so many more that are awesome too!

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

READ MORE VONNEGUT.

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Slaughterhouse Five is really great.

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Jan 9, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ragtime FTW!!

No one ever mentions this one, and I just loved it. The stream of consciousness type of writing was something I had never seen before. It was also a fascinating portrait of the 1920’s – while being a compelling story as well.

There was one awkward thing, though. We read this one in school, and my teacher made some poor kid read the “jizzing in the closet” scene to the whole class. He was so embarassed…

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

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by rhys on Jan 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve recently started reading “This is Your Brain on Music” by Daniel J. Levitin. I’m only about 40 pages in but it’s pretty fascinating so far. Here’s what is says on the back cover:

In this unprecedented meeting of art and science, rocker-turned-neuroscientist Daniel J. Levitin explores the connection between music – it’s performances, its composition, how we listen to it, why we enjoy it – and the human brain. Drawing on the latest research and on musical examples ranging from Mozart, Ella Fitzgerald, and U2 to Schoenberg, Metallica, and “Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star” Levitin reveals:

- how composers exploit the way our brains make sense of the world
- why we emotionally attach to music we list to as teenagers
- why 10,000 hours of practice – not talent – makes virtuosos
- how insidious jingles [aka ear worms] get stuck in our heads

Taking on prominent thinkers who argue that music is nothing more than an evolutionary accident, Levitin argues that music is fundamental to our species, perhaps even more so than language. This Is Your Brain On Music is an ear-opening, mind-blowing investigation into an obsession at the center of human nature.

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by SF Pete on Jan 9, 2009 1:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm partway through that too

I love it, but I have a really bad habit of starting multiple books and not finishing any of them. So I haven’t picked it up for weeks though I was digging it when it was in the rotation

by moonman on Jan 10, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Art of War-Sun Tzu
Adventures of Tintin-Red Rackham’s Treasure by Herge

by Todd Linden on Jan 9, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tintin kicks all kinds of ass in multiple languages.

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by Natto on Jan 9, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yay for the Art of War. In 2007 I wrote an essay comparing it to modern political realism and what went wrong in the modern usage.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 9, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else read The Rest is Noise? Great stuff. Strangely, I’ve had an insatiable appetite for listening to “I am sitting in a room” ever since I read it.

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by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I’m still kind of sort of not really reading The Sound and the Fury and Absalom, Absalom! I really suck at reading sometimes.

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Actually

All of the time.

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thankful that I had to read

The Sound and the Fury for school. I wouldn’t have made it through otherwise. But once I did finish it, talked and wrote about it, I realized that the disjointed chronology and multiple POVs were the only to truly tell the story. It still ranks as one of the best books I’ve read after all these years.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too dude. I didn’t read much of anything last year. I did write a heck of a lot more this past semester with journalism and screenwriting classes.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 9, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think not really reading Faulkner counts as having trouble reading. At least, I hope not.

I know Faulkner and Joyce are considered great, but if you have to work that hard to get at what they offer, in my opinion it isn’t worth it.

Homer, now – that’s great literature.

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by Ott on Jan 9, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW, Joyce’s first two books are relatively easy reads. Especially Dubliners.

I do enjoy a really challenging book, though. Not all the time, but every now and then. Good for stretching the mind – and, as with many things in life, sometimes the fact that something’s challenging ends up making it that much more enjoyable.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dubliners is definitely in my top 3 of all time

by igotnothing on Jan 12, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s almost exactly the opposite of Joyce’s theory, people only value things that are hard to get at. Pretty much the literary equivalent of only being attracted to people who aren’t interested in you.

(oh and by the way, both Joyce and Faulkner are both awesome).

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by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One bit of literary blasphemy that my father and I share is that we both hate The Great Gatsby. I dislike the flat characters and unconvincing love story, but my father’s main objection is that the book is too straightforward and easy.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with this.

Daisy is the sexiest imaginary character ever, but you can pretty much skim the book and be done.

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by lyricalkiller on Jan 9, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't agree with that

It’s really easy to miss pretty major things in Gatsby — and I know because I taught it every year for several years in college classes and pretty routinely the students were amazed at how much they missed. And as I’ve gotten older and nostalgia has become much more emotionally meaningful to me, it really is amazing how strongly that book is both FOR and AGAINST it. In every possible way it warns against and disapproves the nostalgic impulse even as it gives way to it fully. A very emotionally rich novel. Yeah characters are flat and dialogue ludicrous, but that narrative voice is amazing.

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by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I loved The Great Gatsby, but Fitzgerald’s excessive use of symbolism grates on me a bit. I think it was Hemingway who said that all the symbolism people find in his books is bull****. Reading a book shouldn’t be like piecing a puzzle together.

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by Useful_Idiot on Jan 9, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that would be where I disagree with Joyce. I don’t mind reading difficult literature, but I do mind literature that is difficult for the sake of being difficult.

I forget what the name is, but there is a literary theory that talks about mankind’s desire to find order and unity, even if there is none in the subject studied. Joyce and Faulkner capitalize on that. I’m not saying they aren’t intelligent, and didn’t come up with some impressive stuff, but when I finished reading The Sound and the Fury, for example, I didn’t feel as though I was substantially improved for what I had just read, which is one of my goals in reading good literature (as opposed to dime novel types). Maybe I’ll look at it again, but one of my marks for a great author is that he knows how to communicate. Homer, Shakespeare, and Dante all take getting used to, but they communicate well and have depths that reward multiple readings. I don’t get that same impression from Faulkner.

Admittedly, I can’t comment on Joyce except by reputation, as I haven’t read him. My experience with Faulkner sort of soured me on trying Joyce. I’m sure I’ll pick him up one day, and I will give him a fair reading when I do. I’m willing to change if I’m wrong.

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by Ott on Jan 9, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve got to join in on recommending Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist. I’m with you on Ulysses (Benefit<Cost).

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 9, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that would be where I disagree with Joyce. I don’t mind reading difficult literature, but I do mind literature that is difficult for the sake of being difficult.

It took me about 20 listens to appreciate Tom Waits’s “Rain Dogs.” Time spent: about 15-20 hours

It took me about five viewings to appreciate 2001: A Space Odyssey. Time spent: about 13 hours

But books…man. There is so much I want to read, and there is so much that I’ll never get a chance to read, that it’s hard for me to commit for the 40+ hours it takes to read a book that I’m not actively enjoying, much less several times. That’s why I have less patience with literature that I’m having trouble with. Because it isn’t as if I appreciate “Rain Dogs” more than “Pet Sounds” because I overcame some initial prejudices, and it isn’t as if 2001 beats out Casablanca because I had to struggle with the former.

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It took me

4 viewings to start liking The Big Lebowski, and a year of owning IV to start liking Led Zeppelin. Sometimes it’s worth it, though I agree that it’s much easier with music and movies than it is with books.

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

“4 viewings to start liking The Big Lebowski”
I liked the shit out of that movie the first time I saw it, and every time since then it just gets better and better.

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 9, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the literary equivalent of only being attracted to people who aren’t interested in you.

That makes me sad…

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by Useful_Idiot on Jan 9, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist from Joyce.

And I like Faulkner! I loved As I Lay Dying. It’s not him here, it’s me! I would have trouble reading Harry Potter at the moment. :(

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ulysses is my favorite, but the hellfire and brimstone sermon from Portrait is one of my favorite passages from any book, ever. Gives me chills.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I still want to give Ulysses a shot someday. I picked it up in the Irish Writers museum in Dublin though, thinking “there’s no way it can be that bad!” and promptly wtf’d.

…Then I picked up Finnegans Wake.

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The beginning of Ulysses is actually one of the easiest parts.

Later, there’s an episode/chapter (known as Oxen of the Sun) in which the writing styles recreate the entire history of the English language. And the last episode, Penelope, is about 50 pages but only has three punctuation marks. That might be my favorite part of the whole novel.

And yeah, even when I was in grad school for English, we had conversations about how you had to be crazy to try to read Finnegans Wake.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Absalom, Absalom!

Stick with this book; the payoff at the end is huge. Don’t worry too much if you’re not picking up on every single item in the first, oh, three-fourths of the book…it’s all supposed to be something of a this-is-the-way-we-remember-things montage anyway…and revel in the last part when things suddenly become crystal clear and the narrative traditional and riveting. There’s one line of dialogue between the half brothers that I will never forget, and made the whole experience worth the occasional passage of bafflement.

by VidaWantsYourCar on Jan 9, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My 2008 list

Just put it togeher a few days ago, actually. Ranked by goodness.

42. A Long Way Down, Nick Hornby
41. Firehouse, David Halberstam
40. American Nerd, Benjamin Nugent
39. The Good Rat, Jimmy Breslin
38. Snuff, Chuck Palahniuk
37. Gratitude, by William F. Buckley
36. The Abstinence Teacher, Tom Perotta
35. Ignatius Frequenaut, Paul Feig
34. The Dark Knight, Frank Miller
33. Things the Grandchildren Should Know, Mark Everett
32. Pontoon, Garrison Keilor
31. Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell
30. What I’d say to the Martians, Jack Handey
29. The Appeal, John Grisham
28. Oil, Upton Sinclair
27. Supreme Courtship, Christopher Buckley
26. Rapture Ready, Daniel Radosh
25. Everyman, Philip Roth
24. Night, Elie Wiesel
23. Don’t Think of an Elephant, George Lakoff
22. The Night of the Gun, David Carr
21. Stick to Drawing Comics, Monkey Brain, Scott Adams
20. Children of Men, P.D. James
19. Baseball Prospectus
18. God Save the Fan, Will Leitch
17. The Nine, Jeffrey Toobin
16. The Astounding Life of Octavian Nothing (Vol. 1), M.T. Anderson
15. Letter to a Christian Nation, Sam Harris
14. Portnoy’s Complaint, Philip Roth
13. Prince Caspian, C.S. Lewis
12. Then We Came to the End, Joshua Ferris
11. All the Pretty Horses, Cormac McCarthy
10. Boys on the Bus, Timothy Crouse
9. Blind Side, Michael Lewis
8. On Chesil Beach, Ian McEwan
7. Autism’s False Prophets, Paul Offit
6. The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao, Junot Diaz
5. The Bush Tragedy, Jacob Weisberg
4. The Watchmen, Alan Moore
3. The Ghost Writer, Philip Roth
2. Ball Four, Jim Bouton
1. Nixonland, Richard Perlstein

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by lyricalkiller on Jan 9, 2009 2:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I made a big push to read most of Roth’s major stuff, and in the end I was pretty underwhelmed. Just like Joyce Carol Oates (who I think has never written a second draft of anything) I’m doomed ot not get what the all the hooplas about with with him.

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by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny, my reading project this year is to get through as much Roth as possible. Maybe I’ll change course. Ghost Writer might be my favorite book ever about writing, though.

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by lyricalkiller on Jan 9, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Philip Roth is someone I’m really embarrassed not to have read. I recently picked up a copy of The Plot Against America, though.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Dark Knight counts?

Then I’ll put my hat in the proverbial ring and say I conquered The Dark Knight Returns.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 9, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What about The Dark Knight Strikes Back? When I first read it I thought “Underrated,” but now who knows. It’s been three or four years. But the book could probably be helpful when one tries to pinpoint exactly when Frank Miller lost his mind.

by sakbaum on Jan 12, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you mean The Dark Knight Strikes Again. I really didn’t like it.

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by Natto on Jan 12, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that’s the one. Based on his recent output, I don’t think I’ll be revisiting it to see if my original opinion was justified.

by sakbaum on Jan 12, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I own it and reread it a couple times just to make sure I wasn’t overlooking something that’d make it good. Still didn’t find anything. Fortunately, it was a gift, so I didn’t pay for it myself.

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by Natto on Jan 12, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes. I bought the hardcover.

by sakbaum on Jan 12, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch.

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by Natto on Jan 12, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Blind Side is very good.

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 9, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed that as well. Then again I like reading about educational experiences – from different perspectives.

by Merope on Jan 12, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm interested in what you thought of

Oil, and Firehouse. I read Halberstam’s The Breaks of the Game and thought it was awesome.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really disliked Firehouse. I’m not sure I can stand more than about 8,000 words of Halberstam. He’s just too certain of his own interestingness. Anyway, it felt phoned in, like he had to do SOMETHING about 9/11 and he didn’t want to have to drive to a second location.

Oil! was awesome for about 100 pages — the first 50 are the rough outline of There Will Be Blood — and then it ran out of steam. It was interesting for the history (especially because it’s about the area around my house) but it didn’t really have scandal or story.

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by lyricalkiller on Jan 9, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

#29

I really enjoy Grisham. I just finished The Broker and really enjoyed it. I picked up The Appeal in November when it came available in paperback. I have 3 or 4 more of his books left to read.

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 9, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Go you for the Narnia read. I like Prince Caspian the book, the movie was a good movie but I’d like for it to have followed the book more.

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by WalrusMan on Jan 11, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I read a chapter of Narnia whenever I visit The Porcelain Library.
It’s not all that compelling , seems to be written for children. I’m doing it more because Vic Jr. recommended it than any other reason like constipation.
  I recently was looking for the source of the phrase “Ford be praised!” and as a result will soon be rereading Brave New World after first reading it some thirty five years ago.

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by victor frankenstein on Jan 14, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps it is written for children.

But maybe that’s some of the fun. Of course maybe it’s just I connected with the books and read them all the time when i was a kid.

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by WalrusMan on Jan 14, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Dragonriders of Pern trilogy by Anne McCaffrey , when I was 13.
I’d hit that again.

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Jan 16, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As of July 2006, the series consists of 18 novels or novellas and several short stories, you definitely need to revisit.

by timmeh on Jan 16, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Grades/Revies please

How dod 17 and 33 compare to their other novels. I haven’t read any LeGuin in a decade, so maybe 2009 is a good time to start.

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by kennv on Jan 9, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

ack!

dod=did

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by kennv on Jan 9, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The LeGuin novel is the first book in a new young adult series. I liked it a lot – it’s about a pre-industrial culture where every family has an inherited ability, mostly to do with violence – the first book of the series is about a young man from one of the families whose gift is uncontrollably strong, so he is blinded so he can’t use it.

The Neil Gaiman book (33) was pretty good, but I haven’t liked his last couple of books as much as some of his earlier ones.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Currently I'm doing Audio Books with light bathrooming reading

Audio Book
-1776
-To Fat To Fish (artie lang)
-John Adams
-The Appeal (John Grisham)

Graphic Novel
-Walking Dead

Magazine
-The Economist

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Jan 9, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I've never heard bathrooming used as a verb

But it has a certain 20th century elegance

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by lyricalkiller on Jan 9, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

do you still enjoy Grisham's new stuff?

I used to be a big fan, but his last 5 books or so have been pretty blah. The Firm was definitely his best, IMO.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 9, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

After I read

The Firm I swore I would never waste my time reading another John Grisham novel. While he certainly has a talent for plot, he can’t write, in the true sense, at all. The Firm had a flat ending because he could not sustain through his writing, any of the suspense he had created through his plot devices.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven’t read The Firm, but this reminds me – am I the only one who found The Da Vinci Code to be very mediocre?

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

You are definitely not the only one. I thought it was a good idea turned turned bad. It annoyed me considerably.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

God, I hated that book. I’m really not an elitist — I’ve debated the merits of Stephen King with a giantsrainman-like zeal — but that book suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s actually saying that he’s argued on the side of King.

Which is something I would probably also do if we could pretend that he didn’t write The “Steaming Pile of” Stand.

Sorry, I just can’t miss an opportunity to take a shot at that book. Otherwise, King, fine writer on the whole.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jan 12, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think blocked out the word ‘merit’ for some reason. I enjoy King a good bit, but a lot of book snobs look down on him. I haven’t read the Stand yet.

by xanthan on Jan 12, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven’t read the Stand yet.

Unless you’re totally dying for 1000+ pages of crap, I’d leave it alone.

Then again, I know plenty of people who really liked it, so it could just be that it’s simply not my thing.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jan 12, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I’ve got a friend who read the longer version and liked it. I don’t know, I’d like to try it one day.

by xanthan on Jan 12, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Semi-hijack

Worst Stephen King adaptation-to-movie? I’m going with Dreamcatcher. The book was thrilling and the movie just left me angry.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 12, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Never saw or read Dreamcatcher. I haven’t actually seen many King movies.

Silver Bullet was the awesome when I was 10, though.

/shoots wolf in the eye with rocket
/fist pump

Also, it has Gary Busey in it. Awesome.

by xanthan on Jan 12, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What was that one with the industrial laundry machine? I choose that one.

by sakbaum on Jan 12, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was the one with Jason Lee not being in a Kevin Smith movie and before he made Earl.

I guess that also describes Mumford, though….

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by howtheyscored on Jan 12, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dreamcatcher was so awful. Buttworms and a slow kid with magical powers? No thanks.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 12, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Langoliers

Horrible made for TV movie. The only good thing about the movie was that Balky Bartokomous from the TV show Perfect Strangers was in it.

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 12, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agree

It had these computer graphics from like 1983, some pac-man dudes eating time and space and a black guy dying first.

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 13, 2009 1:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m ashamed to say, that I watched both parts of the Langoliers one Saturday a month or so ago on the Sci-Fi channel.

I GOT SUCKED IN

/airplane flies through space time rip

by xanthan on Jan 13, 2009 5:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa, I remember the commercials for those. They were scary. Of course, I was like 6 years old at the time.

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by Natto on Jan 13, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The greater your enjoyment of the depth of King’ idiosyncrasies in print the depth of your disdain for the adaptations – or is that just me?

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Jan 14, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also – I read “DaVinci” during busrides across Phoenix two years ago. I’m with the “Meh” crowd…was it written after the movie? That was the impression it left with me.

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Jan 14, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah.

It.

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Jan 16, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The book really creeped me out but the movie not so much. As I have stated before I really hate clowns, between the book and my imagination, i had every light in the apartment on. I was 25.

by timmeh on Jan 16, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember when the D - Blanks fell out of first place?

I sent the Pit a message that read:

“We all float down here…you’ll float , too…”

They wer not amusd.

Ehh , the minute whatever character said “There’s something evil in Derry” I was gone…

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Jan 16, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My wife has read that book like 20 times. What can I say – she’s a little weird.

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by jcb9 on Jan 12, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn’t go beyond the first chapter

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by Useful_Idiot on Jan 9, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dan Brown: “[Anything]”
Me: “Jesus, this is stupid.”

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jan 9, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was enjoyable

But Angels & Demons was better.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 12, 2009 8:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not ashamed to say I enjoy his storytelling, though I basically skip everything but the dialogue and read ’em all in two hours. But it had been a long dry spell before the Appeal, which I thought was his best in a good 10 years.

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by lyricalkiller on Jan 9, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How is The Appeal so far?

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 9, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh bother

This year has been bad for reading books, unless you count the four massive CPA Exam study books I read over a couple times.

Off the top of my head…

Stephen King: Cujo
Michael Connelly: Echo Park
Alan Greenspan: The Age of Turbulence

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 9, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am reading a book with my wife right now, she hates reading and I am trying to get her into reading more. We are reading Inkheart right now, it is a teen novel, but its what we read so she can get into it. I also read almost the entire Drizzt saga by Salvatore, I just have to finish the last three books, since school starts monday we’ll have to see when that happens.

I can haz homerunz!

by jbowl on Jan 9, 2009 2:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This year will probably follow my usual patterns

Terry Brook’s new books
Jim Butcher’s new books
Clive Cussler’s new books
New Salvatore Drizzt book whenever it comes out on paperback

Cussler has 3 concurrent series, so there’s usually at least 3 a year. I really recommend these three guys for easy style and fairly light, escapist reading.

I read the 1st book of the Dark tower series – might get off my ass and read #2

There’s a book about Teddy Roosevelt’s journey up the amazon that I might make as my 1 non-fiction for the year, but we’ll see. With a lot up in the air, I need fiction. I also have the newer biography of Joe Strummer waiting to be read, but its been sitting for a year.

I’m a pretty solid expert on the fantasy genre, if people have any questions.

Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.

by Andy from DC on Jan 9, 2009 2:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Andy, have you ever read the shadowrun books, if so how are they? I have thought about getting some.

I can haz homerunz!

by jbowl on Jan 10, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see...

Finished rereading Catch 22. One of the most awesomest books things in the history of books things.

I’ve also just finished I Never Promised You a Rose Garden. Meh. Not really my taste, I guess.

I stopped about halfway through Hammer of The Gods: The Led Zeppelin Saga. It wasn’t bad, just got repetitive after a while. So they had another orgy in a jacuzzi filled with baked beans, big whoop.

Have also read some short stories by Kafka, and miserably failed at reading A Tale of Two Cities. I refuse to read a translated version, though, so I think I’ll go back to it in a year or so.

I’m now reading Can’t Buy Me Love. I’m only around page 100, but It’s been really interesting so far.

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 3:00 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Catch-22

BEST BOOK EVER

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I really think it’s my all time favorite book. It’s the funniest thing I’ve ever read, it has some of my all time favorite characters (MMMM, Colonel Cathcart, Nately’s whore, Orr – I could go on for a long time), and it has some surprising emotional depth. Plus, I could quote it for hours.

One of my favorite parts:

[ General Dreedle]: “Do you think it does you credit to have your chaplain hanging around here every night? He’s in here every goddamn time I come.”

“You’re right, sir, absolutely right,” Colonel Cathcart responded. “It does me no credit at all. And I am going to do something about it, this very minute.”

“Aren’t you the one who ordered him to come here?”

“No, sir, that was Colonel Korn. I intend to punish him severely, too.”

“If he wasn’t a chaplain,” General Dreedle muttered, “I’d have him taken outside and shot.”

“He’s not a chaplain,” Colonel Carthcart advised helpfully.

“Isn’t he? Then why the hell does he wear that cross on his collar if he’s not a chaplain?”

“He doesn’t wear a cross on his collar, sir. He wears a silver leaf. He’s a lieutenant colonel.”

“You’ve got a chaplain who’s a lieutenant colonel?” inquired General Dreedle with amazement.

“Oh no, sir. My chaplain is only a captain.”

“Then why the hell does he wear a silver leaf on his collar if he’s only a captain?”

“He doesn’t wear a silver lead on his collar, sir. He wears a cross.”

“Go away from me now, you son of a bitch.”

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s probably my favorite book of all time, but I wish that Heller just used “said” instead of 144,303 different verbs.

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hehe

I hadn’t noticed that until now. Does he do that throughout the entire book?

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I find that I really just ignore the “said” or other variants 99% of the time.

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s the funniest thing I’ve ever read

You, sir, have obviously never read Stephen Colbert’s: I Am America and So Can You!

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 9, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me guess

It’s like Jon Stewart’s America (The Book), only from a fake Republican point of view.

I like Colbert, but his “look at me I’m the opposite of Stewart!” thingy can get tiring. Though I’m sure that I’d enjoy the book if I read it.

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's more of a toilet book

Pretty much just his random Republican-character viewpoint on everything. If you watch the show regularly, you’ve probably heard it all, and it’s funnier to hear him say it than to read him saying it.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 12, 2009 8:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now I'm confused

Was your previous comment sarcastic?

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by Cookyman on Jan 13, 2009 7:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was particularly fond of...

Milo Minderbinder as a character, but for names alone I thought the appropriate apellation of Lt. Scheiskopf was the best.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I loved Milo

But his shtick got a bit tiring near the end.

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True

But his leasing out of American planes to bomb their own airstrip was, in my mind, the height of absurdism. I read the book many years ago, and that episode is still one that really sticks out.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

That was brilliant.

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I loved Milo up until the chapter where he abandons Yossarian while he’s AWOL. Up until that point, all his bad qualities were funny but after that, he seemed more, idk, maliciously self-centered.

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by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Such a great book, definitely one of the best ever written in the English language. I like the jumping in and out of the tent by whoever the leader is, I think? or am I just butchering that scene?

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 9, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He probably seems that way

because I think he was, as you appropriately state it,“maliciously self-centered”. Still, not that I liked him, but there was something that made him interesting.

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by marklar on Jan 9, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, there are plenty of characters in that book who I don’t really like, but find very amusing or interesting. Like Cathcart, for example. Both the funniest and one of the most horrifying characters in the book.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well that's kind of the point

SPOILER

The last 100 pages or so are all about Yossarian’s world falling apart. All of his friends die or disappear, except for the chaplain, who isn’t exactly a friend, while the negative characters (Cathcart, Korn, Milo) slowly change from merely annoying to downright evil.

And more importantly, I think Milo is supposed to represent the “downside” of individualism. I think Heller tries to mock both sides – Nately represents collectivism and idealism, and Milo represents egoism and pragmatism. In the end, they both suck – Nately is exploited throughout the book, and in the end dies for no good reason, while Milo has no problem doing anything, including killing, for his own personal profit, which he does in the end by attacking his own airstrip, and indirectly killing Snowden (I think he replaced the first aid kit with a bunch of cotton balls, or something like that).

Also, Milo obviously represents capitalism at its worst, but that’s a whole other story.

Or I could be talking crap.

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that’s true. Good points.

Still, Milo is portrayed as more of a good-ish guy throughout the book when compared to Cathcart, Korn, etc. Or, at least, more harmless. So I guess it comes as more of a shock or I get a more visceral reaction from it.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Going against the grain is appealing, but ultimately perverse.

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 9, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely more harmless ( less harmful?)

But I don’t know about good-ish. I mean, I know it feels that way, but when I think about it, I can’t remember one nice thing Milo did or said throughout the entire book. In fact, I can’t even recall a single conversation in which he took part that didn’t revolve around him and his syndicate.

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by Cookyman on Jan 10, 2009 3:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

(Everybody has a share)

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by Cookyman on Jan 10, 2009 3:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

*force feeds you Egyptian Cotton covered in chocolate*

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jan 10, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

one the three great reading “awakenings” of my life. Incredible to feel so jazzed from a handful of paper.

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Jan 9, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gatsby and Moby Dick. All when I was about 16-17, the perfect time to have your mind opened by great literature.

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by Roger on Jan 13, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+100
ignore the reply fail somewhere else

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 13, 2009 1:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait. A Tale of Two Cities is by Dickens. Dickens was as English as English can be. Why would you need to refuse to read a translated version?

Confused, I am.

Speaking of Dickens, Bleak House is another book I want to read this year. And Catch 22 is a book I need to get a copy of.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

English

Is my second language. I read it pretty well, enough to do most of my reading in it, but Dickens was a bit too much. It’s not that I couldn’t do it, but I just felt like I’m putting too much effort into it.

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

tale of two cities

I didn’t like most of it that much. The last seven-ish chapters were really good, I thought, but the first 200 pages didn’t appeal to me much.

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by raisingcain on Jan 9, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh, gotcha. Since your command of English seemed perfectly fine, I was a bit confused there.

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by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Still a heckuva lot better than most native speakers in America.

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by Natto on Jan 9, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nosy

Can I ask what your first language is?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 9, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hebrew

I’m pretty sure that I mentioned this a couple of times, but that was when I was still a n00b. I’m posting from Jerusalem.

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by Cookyman on Jan 10, 2009 5:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is hella cool. I’m obsessed with languages so I had to ask. :)

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 10, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I remember

I have a similar obsession. Though my obsession consists of talking about how I should learn a bunch of languages and not doing anything about it. Hopefully at some point I’ll start learning Arabic, and at least one out of French, Italian, and Spanish.

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by Cookyman on Jan 10, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bleak House

One of the great introductions in all of literature — you certainly know what he thinks of courts and lawyers by the time he’s written just a few paragraphs.

by NearestNorwich on Jan 9, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll second the Catch-22 nom.

Major Major Major Major is so awesome.

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 9, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve always had a soft spot for ex-PFC Wintergreen, essentially a real life troll.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jan 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Poor, poor Snowden

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by Useful_Idiot on Jan 9, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not funny!

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by Cookyman on Jan 13, 2009 7:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yup.

clevinger’s trial is pretty fucking funny

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by The Gene Hackman on Jan 12, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m now reading Can’t Buy Me Love. I’m only around page 100, but It’s been really interesting so far.

It really gets good around page 150. Ronald becomes one of the popular kids, and his relationship with Kenneth falls apart. I really enjoyed the 15-page passage describing the African Anteater Ritual — it was one of the most apt metaphors I’ve ever read.

by Grant on Jan 9, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

A movie so bad

They had to make it twice.

But yeah, I meant this one.

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by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve read I Never Promised You a Rose Garden. I can’t say I enjoyed it, but I did find it interesting.

by Merope on Jan 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty much how I felt

It’s not a bad book, and it has some interesting parts, but really, I could have stopped reading at any point without feeling any need to start again.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jan 9, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Almost forgot

I’m also going to start Posnanski’s The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O’Neil’s America .

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jan 10, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That book

is wonderful. I’m pretty sure you’ll enjoy 99% of it. The 1% you won’t enjoy? When you don’t have any more of it to read.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 10, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cool

My dad bought it for me, but then started reading it, and only let me have it after he was done.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jan 10, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahha

The Soul of Baseball = the awesome gift that you want to keep for yourself. I eventually gave away my copies to friends, but I may buy another one so I have my own again.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

by baetown415 on Jan 10, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I read it twice in a row.

Best baseball book written in a long, long time.

Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz

by lyricalkiller on Jan 11, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love that book a ridiculous amount. I cried at the end. :(

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jan 10, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Another orgy?

Wow!

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."

by WalrusMan on Jan 11, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't make that up, BTW

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jan 11, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For which book?

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jan 13, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fantasy ftw

Wheel of time
Song of ice and fire (dance with dragons better come out soon)
Ender in Exile
Beadle the Bard
His Dark Materials
A Painted House

Garlic fries 08

by operation carrot on Jan 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Beadle the Bard good? My mom has been trying to get me to read it because I loved Harry Potter.

I can haz homerunz!

by jbowl on Jan 9, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard a diss about it in a review...

The author said it was more like a pamphlet becuase it was 111 pages, double spaced, and in a huge font. That being said, I liked the first 4 Potter books.

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Jan 9, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs