Depth Chart, Final
Credeble rumors or not, I'm guessing and hoping that this is the final roster:
It has just about everything we could realistically hope for. Phelps is on the roster to protect Ishikawa from tough lefties, as well as to give the Giants some pop. Man, does this team need pop. They are sorely lacking in pop. Hopefully, Phelps will be good for some pop. He's also a good fourth catcher in the event of an in-game tractor accident.
Burriss is fielding short in Fresno. He doesn't get jerked around the lineup after his first 1-for-20 stint, and he hopefully shows enough in AAA at shortstop to make trade bait out of Edgar Renteria.
Frandsen has a clear path to a starting job. There wouldn't be a temptation to cram him into a super-utility role because he's the only other player on the roster who could cover third, though I guess Velez wouldn't be the end of the world for a couple of innings.
Velez is the last guy on the bench, as well he should be. His speed will be an asset as the 25th-man; if he plays his way into more at-bats, that's just fine. For a utility player, Velez is ridiculously limited defensively. Maybe he wins the starting job, but I'm guessing Frandsen has the upper hand.
Uribe is basically Pedro Feliz with worse defense at third, but with the ability to play short. Had I thought that Uribe would have accepted a minor-league role and a bench job, I would have been making a case for him all along. He doesn't have any platoon splits, so there isn't any real advantage to having him start against lefties. There isn't a huge temptation to start him at third, either, as he was pretty awful last year. He isn't Joe Crede, who was an ALL-STAR!! last year. Uribe isn't good -- if he were good, he'd be starting somewhere -- but his limited skill set matches up well with the Giants.
If this depth chart holds, the bench would have two righties with pop (Phelps and Uribe) and a lefty with pop (Schierholtz). My only complaint with the bench is that Roberts and Velez are more than a little redundant. Punchless lefties with limited on-base skillz but a ton of speed? Thanks, but one will do. No need to stock up at Costco. What the Giants need is some pop.
The pitching is solid from top to bottom. I'm expecting big things out of Other.
Comment starter: Is this the roster? How will they find a way to repress Phelps now? Are you happy with the roster? I...I...am. For the first time in years, I would be happy with this 25-man roster. It doesn't suck hot glass through a straw, and there aren't any egregious prospect snubbings. The goal for 2009 should have been to put a decent team on the field without limiting their options for 2010. That's what we seem to have.
Good job, Sabanb; ; . Huh. That's weird, I tried to type "Good job, Sable kn ;", but my keyboard wouldn't let m...hey, it did it again. Ahem. Good job, Sab ;lks jdf;a. Dammit. You know what I'm getting at. I tried to type it again, and I had to ctrl-alt-del.
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Someone made a great point about him in the “Greg Jacobs signs!”-thread. I encourage everyone to go look for it.
by Grant on Jan 30, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to. But when I try to open it smoke comes out of my USB ports.
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Jan 30, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I can’t open it anymore either. My firefox and explorer start yelling at me before they crawl under the bed to hide.
by cornball on Jan 30, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT ABOUT MANRAM????!!!11
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jan 30, 2009 10:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You might want to take that kind of talk to instant messaging
Or Craigslist personals.
Gunga Galunga
by otis29 on Jan 30, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or perhaps to the City that never sleeps
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jan 30, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Two things:
1) Your proposed roster has 6 bench players and 6 relievers. For the last several years, the Giants have, as best I can recall, almost always carried 7 relievers, so my assumption is they’ll do that again.
2) Back when it was still called Pac Bell Park, I was in the bleachers once in a game against the Rockies, and towards the end, a very drunk guy saw Juan Uribe at the plate and tried to start a one man Oooooo! Ribe! chant.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 10:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Although, with point one having been made, I’m not sure who would be dropped from the bench. I would hope for Velez, but I fear Phelps, who would be my second favorite bench player, after Schierholtz.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Phelps would also be the first Joshua to make the Giants since 1976 – and that’s being generous and counting Von Joshua. HE MUST MAKE THE TEAM.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve check all the way back to 1958, and there has never been a San Francisco Giant with the first name of Josh(ua). This clearly needs to be rectified.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your proposed roster has 6 bench players and 6 relievers. For the last several years, the Giants have, as best I can recall, almost always carried 7 relievers, so my assumption is they’ll do that again.
I swear to Bonds that I counted that 17 times, and came up with 13 position players and 12 pitchers. Aarrggh. That kind of ruins my whole post.
Eh, just drop Roberts.
by Grant on Jan 30, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, just drop Roberts
Fair enough
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by Goofus on Jan 30, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the simplest solution is most often the correct one.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 30, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
occam's razor?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 30, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that Ralph Barbieri’s brother?
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sorta
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 30, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love for them to drop Roberts, and I bet they will before the season is out – but I suspect he’ll be gumming up the roster for at least a couple of months before they finally give up.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, just drop Roberts
That’s not how you spell “Velez”. Not even close.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jan 30, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Velez>>Roberts
Velez isn’t hurt, is faster, and actually showed some surprising pop and offensive promise at the end of last season. He is also much cheaper.
by Gregjitsu on Jan 30, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“Offensive promise” = “might not be quite as awful as we thought”.
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by EliminateMe on Jan 30, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also a surprising pop —

Surprising as in: why would anybody want this?
by 2X2L on Jan 30, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/ Ponders the value of a -.456 Run Value a caught stealing (or pick off) play usually provides.
This might be a real ugly steel cage match. Velez has some experience at infield spots as well as outfield but would not be able to hamper the JuggerNate. But then there is the -.456 run value on a team that will consider a 3 run inning a offensive bombing….
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Jan 31, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you’ll need to do more than that to get both Uribe and Phelps onto the 40-man roster.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 30, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One of Yabu or Perdomo will make the team, and the other one will be dropped. At least, that’s how I’d handle it.
by Grant on Jan 30, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or, the return of Billy Sadler!
HI, I’M BILLY SADLER.
/sells products
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
needs more walks
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we photoshop a big, bushy beard on Sadler? Could probably move lots of nattowear and MCC t-shirts!!
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jan 30, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good call.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 30, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or maybe Merkin goes back onto the 60-day DL.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 30, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That would work
I was leaning towards “Roberts as 25th man/Velez learns to be less Velez-y in AAA”; but the 40-man roster issue may be the final straw for Roberts. There’s two weeks before camp opens… maybe Roberts still has time to rebrand himself as a right-handed power hitter. I think this team needs Phelps, and there are a lot of assumptions of Phelps being on the roster around here, but my gut tells me he’s still on the outside looking in. Please hit .400 in the Cactus League, Josh. That would be a stupid reason for you to make the team, but I’ll take it.
Other possible 40-man roster moves: Bocock and Misch would probably clear waivers, or Merkin might open the season on the 60-day DL. (Sigh.)
by pantalones on Jan 30, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Roberts
since Velez would likely be the 5th OF, I’m inclined to believe that Roberts would make the 25-man roster. Getting rid of Yabu/Perdomo and putting Merkin on the 60-day DL are the most likely options. Also, the Giants probably don’t want to eat Roberts’s $6.5m contract without getting anything out of him. they might as well keep him around.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 30, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the Giants probably don’t want to eat Roberts’s $6.5m contract without getting anything out of him
This kind of thinking seems wrong to me on a 1 year deal. The money is already spent regardless of who you keep, so why not keep the player that makes the team better. In this case, that’s Phelps. Basically, you’d be paying him Roberts’ $6.5mil for ’09.
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jan 30, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
at some point, I can see Roberts being cut, assuming they can’t trade him, but coming out of spring training he probably makes the roster as the 5th OF. If he plays, they still get something out of him, even if it isn’t worth $6.5M.
I agree that Phelps is more valuable, but the team will not likely go with 4 OFs + Velez. Plus, there are other ways to clear roster room before cutting Roberts.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 31, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and Velez is the 5th OF?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 30, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Taking care of a baby and a sick parent...
…but lurking. Always lurking.
by pantalones on Jan 30, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that phrase causes me physical pain for some reason
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Goofus Theorum Revisited
A traditional depth chart doesn’t accurately show how the outfield should be handled. Rowand, Winn, Lewis and Schierholtz should be sharing the ABs, with who plays where varying depending on who’s playing that day.
The easiest way is to just make Lewis Rowand and Nate man LF, CF, RF with Winn rovng from position to position.
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by Goofus on Jan 30, 2009 10:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Schierholtz at third
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
by TexasRanger on Jan 30, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by WalrusMan on Jan 31, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Needs more pop
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by marcello on Jan 30, 2009 10:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I thought we agreed
it was spelled S-O-D-A
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by nvsfg on Jan 30, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
STOP STEALING MY RAGE GIMMICK YOU PUNKASS BITCH!!!!
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/brandishes knife
Hey, sorry to OT in this thread, but I was that you were a fan of PKD in the other enormous thread. I’ve only really read ‘We Can Build You’ and a collection of his short stories. I’m looking to pick up one of his novels next, which one should I check out?
I was thinking of either ‘The Man in the High Castle’ or ‘Ubik’ are they good reads? Any other PKD books you would recommend?
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of those two, I’d recommend The Man in the High Castle. Ubik is good too, but it’s a little further out on the PKD weirdness scale.
My favorite novels of his are Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said
, A Scanner Darkly, and VALIS. But VALIS is REALLY weird.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and another favorite of mine is Time Out Of Joint. It takes the whole Matrix idea of people being imprisoned in a false reality for nefarious means, but was written decades earlier and is a lot more interesting in my opinion.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool. Thanks for the recommendations.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seconded
This is one of my favorite Dick novels, though it rarely gets much attention (I think because it’s not as “heavy” as his later stuff).
Eye in the Sky is another good one from that period.
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by EliminateMe on Jan 30, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eye in the Sky is the first PKD I ever read. I remember liking it, but I was like 15 at the time so I don’t remember it too well.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
These
Valis is about PKD going insane.
Heck, they’re all pretty good; some are just weirder than others.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
by zenbitz on Jan 30, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know that I’d agree that they’re ALL good. He wrote an awful lot of books and some of them were pretty bad.
Also, for PKD fans I’d recommend Divine Invasions, which is a biography about him by Lawrence Sutin.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are also some great collections of his short stories which are always a blast to read
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
by TexasRanger on Jan 30, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OT PKD
Jonathan Lethem put together a “Library of America” collection of four of PKD’s novels. I think i got from amazon for around $20. it has ubik and the man in the high castle – and i think both are good reads. reading four PKD books back to back is also pretty trippy. Lethem’s “Gun with Occassional Music” seems like it was inspired by some PKD.
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
by kennv on Jan 30, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my favorite song.
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Jan 30, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Pedro Feliz is a Berliner, that means we’re all Berliners.
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by Goofus on Jan 30, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
are we human or are we Feliz
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/ nods nods
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Jan 30, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WE ACCEPT YOU WE REJECT YOU ONE OF US ONE OF US
by satyricrash on Jan 30, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I read this as “WE ARE ALL PEDOPHILES”. Yeah…
by Natto on Jan 30, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad you didn’t misread it back when Feliz was a Giant. That way, we could have Pedrophiles, sort of like we now have Romosexuals.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pedrophiles
That’s good enough that we need to go out and find us a nuevo Pedro!
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Jan 30, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION
ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION
ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION
WE ARE ALL PEDRO FELIZ
WE ARE ALL PEDRO FELIZ
WE ARE ALL PEDRO FELIZ
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by WalrusMan on Jan 31, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure I’m not the only one here who remembers the Uribe chant having
three distinct sylables for a while: Oooh – Ree – Bay
I dont see any reason not to do it for Juan…unless he goes Joe Castle on us.
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by bgunn on Jan 30, 2009 10:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
wouldn’t we then be chanting Oooh-Ree-Bye ?
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by nvsfg on Jan 30, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that is what i said last night at my poker game.
by giantdonkey on Jan 30, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think his orange sweatbands blinded my memory-vision of him. Which was a good thing.
by cornball on Jan 30, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes, Shinjomania
Good times

As a side note, Carl’s Jr. needs to bring back the bobbleheads.
by rightcenterfielder on Jan 30, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have the 2002 set
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 30, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have the bobbleheads and the baseball set but I am missing someone. I am not sure who the 5th one is that I am missing. I think my college roommate’s dog took it….

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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Jan 30, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the one on ebay is any indication, it looks like you’re missing Gaylord Perry.
by rightcenterfielder on Jan 30, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Damn Dog!
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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Jan 30, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is “Damn Dog!” also the reason they appear yellow?
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 30, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Chevron gasoline turned them yellow. They also have an embroidered “SF” on the back as well.
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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Jan 30, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember collecting the 2003 set (the one with 10 mini bobbleheads). I got so sick of Carl’s Jr that I haven’t really been back since.
by rightcenterfielder on Jan 30, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By going Joe Castle, do you mean having Bochy pencil him in everyday as starter at 3B. Let’s hope he doesn’t crazy at Spring Training and force Bochy’s hand.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jan 30, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have this sinking suspicion the Giants will ‘win’ the services of Joe Crede… who will take Phelps’ spot. I hate this move because it would ruin a good platoon at 1st, and really hurt TI. The other thing I don’t get is Roberts, he will take some of Schierholtz 4th OF ab’s, especially since he is a Bochy guy. Let’s just give him his much deserved DFA.
by lincysgiants on Jan 30, 2009 10:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I never went to Giants games at the stick because I was poor
So I don’t remember this chant. I just think of it as something from the days of yore.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 30, 2009 10:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Be careful when you answer the door
It might be a homicidal Frank Gore.
– clank –
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 30, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what a bore
I can’t take any more.
I actually didn’t intend to rhyme that first one.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 30, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can stock up on pop at Costco
Best generic soda: Dr. Thunder?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 30, 2009 10:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dr. Thunder
Dr. Skipper
Dr. Riffic
Dr. K
Dr. Smooth
Dr. Wells
Dr. Becker
Dr. Perfect
Dr. Thirst
Dr. Check
Dr. A+
Dr. Slice
Dr. Perky
Dr. Starr
Dr. Rocket
Dr. Joe’s
Dr. B
Dr. Topper
Dr. Pop
Dr. Radical
Dr. Shaw
Dr. Up!
Dr. Cheer
Dr. Lynn
Dr. Publix
Doctor Whatever
Dr. Zeppa
Dr. Polar
Dr. Rush
Dr. S
Dr. Sparkle
Dr. WOW
Dr. W
Dr. Tops
Dr. Right
Dr. IGA
Doctor
Dr. Choice
Dr. Urge
Dr. M
Dr. Wild
Dr. Best
Dr. Extreme
Dr. Parker
Dr. Shasta
Dr. Fizz
Dr. Weis
Dr. Path
Dr. Bold
Dr. HyTopp
Dr. Celeste
Country Doctor
Real Dr.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dr. Octagon
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Jan 30, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dr. Doom
Dr. Demento
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jan 30, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dr. Spaceman
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dr. Zoom and the Sonic Boom
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 30, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“Dr. Howard…Dr. Fine…Dr. Howard…”
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 30, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dr. Drew
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.
by BrianBokake on Jan 30, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Paging Dr. Herman, Dr. Herman"

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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Jan 30, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HEY
Those aren’t real doctors.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So they’re just playin doctor?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Jan 30, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I ate his liver in a Holiday Inn once.
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 30, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fixxed
Those aren’t real, Doctor.
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Jan 30, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fixxxed
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm thats what she said?
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Jan 30, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
just needed the extra x
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
From time to time don’t we all?
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Jan 30, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to lead by ample.
But it’s no longer an ample…or a tinguisher…
This just in...Bobby Estalella can apply oral suction to a deceased pack animal's penile extremity.
by victor frankenstein on Jan 30, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bah Humbug.
And watch as my (already low) Dollhouse expectations lower daily.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 30, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love how Safeway doesn’t even try to come up with original names for their knock-offs.
by Natto on Jan 30, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“Not Dr. Pepper but Like It!”
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by WalrusMan on Jan 31, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching
I’m not completely sold on the pitching yet. I think Cain will benefit from pitching in the 3 spot, but RJ going 2nd? And Zito will be Zito of the past 2 years. I really hope Sanchez shows up this season, as his upside is great. Bobby Howry is not that good, and I think will be a major disapointment. Hopefully Hinshaw shows up and claims the “other”.
And please, no Crede.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jan 30, 2009 10:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
likely bullpen
CL – Wilson
RP – Affeldt
RP – Howry
RP – Romo
RP – Hinshaw
RP – Taschner
RP – Perdomo/Yabu/Sadler/Matos
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 30, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
We tend to overestimate our pitching. The bullpen has potential but needs to display this talent on the field. Last season the pitching gave up way too many runs. Hopefully the changes Sabean made this winter will work but it still remains to be seen.
by wilriv21 on Jan 30, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one terrified by the story last week that Brian Wilson has changed his diet and is experimenting with a new pitch? Who thought it was a good idea for him to shack up with Barry Zito in the offseason?
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My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
by Kitspool on Jan 30, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
Wilson with a chane-up could be the coolest thing ever. A 15-mph drop is considered pretty good. Wilson could approach a 25-mph drop which, if he disguises it even mildly well, would be unhittable.
Batters would be so far out in front of his change up he might be able to get two swing-throughs on the same pitch.
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by Goofus on Jan 30, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thought a changeup should be around 10-12mph drop.
by wilriv21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was being snarky towards Zito.
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by marcello on Jan 30, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My understand is that 10 is a minimum, 12 is preferred. 15 is where is starts to be good.
If Wilson follows a high 90s FB with a mid 70s change, that would be incredible.
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by Goofus on Jan 30, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming the first part isn't a joke
The differnce is usually around 8-12. Nobody gets 15. But there’s a lot more to a change up than velocity drop. Cain, for example, only gets a 6 MPH drop, but he has a very good change, mainly thanks to the great moment he gets on it.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jan 30, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Jason Schmidt throwing his changeup around 86-88mph when his fastball was 95mph.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Jan 30, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A 25-mph drop on a changeup would not be a good thing
The pitches have to be close enough in velocity that the batter can’t instantly tell it’s a changeup as soon as he sees the pitch.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Jan 30, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
I can remember when Woody would watch his MPH just to get the best drop on his changeup. Not enough, well people would be able to hit it just like his fastball. Too much, well people could tell it was his changeup and slow their swing down.
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by WalrusMan on Jan 31, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
slow their swing down
I assume you mean wait back longer
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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Feb 1, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
boner inducing one might say
by lincypoo i wuv u on Feb 1, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty happy he’s trying a new pitch. Something tells that he’s not going keep leading the league in saves with his pitch combo of very hard, inaccurate fastball – slightly less hard, just as inaccurate fastball – pretty hard, even more inaccurate slider..
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jan 30, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re probably right. I guess I’m just worried that Zito’s suckiness is going to rub off on Brian.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
by Kitspool on Jan 30, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My way of claiming “homage” instead of “outright joke theft.”
by Grant on Jan 30, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t read “Phelps” without thinking of smoking cassettes.
This just in...Bobby Estalella can apply oral suction to a deceased pack animal's penile extremity.
by victor frankenstein on Jan 30, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the pitching staff
Makes me wonder once again why Taschner wasn’t non-tendered. We’ve got Affeldt as a lefty, and although there are issues with Hinshaw, I much prefer him as a second LHP reliever.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wish they would have let him go.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/ Brandishes fade "trade Jack" sign from July.
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Jan 30, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the strike zone is kind of an issue for Hinshaw
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah. But he’s harder to hit, had way more strike outs, and an ERA about 1.50 lower than Taschner last year.
At this point, I’m putting Taschner into the We Know He’s Not Very Good So Why Bother? category. Hinshaw at least has potential.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d remind you that reliever ERA is a useless stat, but am scared of pissing you off.
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by Goofus on Jan 30, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s only useless if it doesn’t confirm what you already believe.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This reply-to-self business is how you end up with so many comments. Get it right the first time, dammit!
by Evan on Jan 30, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Will
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Consume
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Soul
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, just start a Pokemon thread, and I’ll be on top again.
by Natto on Jan 30, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I really wouldn’t have anything to say about that.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can start up an indie-rock thread in retribution.
by Evan on Jan 30, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to tell you guys that as my ipod has been on shuffle the last few days at work, I’ve been pleasantly surprised by a few songs from Under the Blacklight.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 30, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
poor misguided fool.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I also feel this way.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DIDSOMEONESAYSOMETHINGABOUTPOKEYMANZ?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 30, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
POKEYMANNY
POKEYRIBBIES
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jan 30, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That brings up an interesting question… what would be your all pokemon baseball roster / lineup?
The nice thing is that the skill sets translate pretty nicely. Speed. Defense. So on.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 30, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shin-Soo PikaChoo in RF.
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by EliminateMe on Jan 30, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching
Where does Lowry fit into all of this?
by sfgiantsrule24 on Jan 30, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was going to make a snarky reply, but it made me sad.
by chilibean_3 on Jan 30, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, me too. Xanthan beat me to “The DL,” but then I was glad he did, because Lowry was always a favorite on mine and making fun of him makes me sad.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t make fun of Lowry, but I do make fun of people who:
A) Think he’s tradeable
B) Think he’s going to throw a bunch of innings in ’09
C) Ignore his badly trending peripherals
I like him a lot, but I think after his contract is up at the end of this season, his Giants career will be finished.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not convinced that his career in general isn’t over already.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s sad but he was smart to sign an extension when he did. He’s probably set for life, or at least the next 20 years.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And he contributed enough to the Giants when he was healthy that I don’t think the team can really regret it too much, either.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, his deal was worth $8.25M over 4 seasons. That total pay would mean that the Giants valued him as a 1.65 win pitcher over the total of those four seasons. Lowry gave them 2.6 wins over the four seasons. So, while the deal didn’t work out the way the Giants had hoped, he gave them enough performance while securing his future.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
who knows. if lowry can get his feel for the strike zone again, nothing says he couldn’t be a jaime moyer type. he’d feature a solid change up, with a change from the change up… a lesser change as it were.
by giantdonkey on Jan 30, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
who knows. if lowry can get his feel for the strike zone again, nothing says he couldn’t be a jaime moyer type.
And if Zito could find 4-5mph on his fastball, he might not suck as much.
Moyer and Lowry are pretty different pitchers, besides handedness. Moyer is more durable, has better control. Lowry has thrown 200 innings one time, Moyer has done it 10 times in a season and has a career average of 208 innings per season.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
of course moyer has thrown 200 innings more… he’s 70 years old !
by giantdonkey on Jan 30, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not 70!
He’s an ageless lefty. Look it up!
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by EliminateMe on Jan 30, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
was that ?
if zito could find another 15-20 mph on his fastball, he might not suck as much ?
by giantdonkey on Jan 30, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
corrected
if zito could findanother 15-20 mph onhis fastball, he might not suck as much ?
when did we stop using adverbs proper?
by alea iacta est on Jan 30, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Erm
The $5M/win ratio doesn’t work for guys in their arbitration years. I don’t know quite how to figure that option year at the end, but he was paid for roughly 4 wins when you adjust for the lower pay-scale for pre-FA players.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Jan 30, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of coaches: is Mark Gardner still the bullpen coach? I don’t remember hearing him mentioned the last couple of years, but I also don’t remember him leaving.
Anyone? Anyone?
SO RANDOM.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he’s still in the pen. Yup.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else think that 05 season
ruined Lowry? He was pretty awesome that year but got hurt in his first start in 06 and he wad done after that. True he came back to pitch some but his velocity was way down from 05 and his control went to shit. Really a bummer, because he looked like a keeper back in 05, and I always got the sense he would have been a very good pitcher in the postseason, if we ever got back there.
by Hobbes2d on Jan 30, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chicken or Egg?
Always wondered if Lowry began to lose his stuff or whether he was experiencing pain and this led to drop off of his performance.
by wilriv21 on Jan 30, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because he was relatively young when this occurred
I would think experiencing pain. He never even told the trainers about his first injury he just tried to pitch through it. And it got worse.
by Hobbes2d on Jan 30, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can be guilty of c), but that’s only because I blame the peripherals on the injury. I still think he’s only good for about five innings this year.
by Grant on Jan 30, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I had that discussion with oldjacket in the other Lowry thread. His drop in peripherals are surely linked to his injuries but then we’re just taken back to the question of: “Will he ever be healthy again” and you’re kinda back to square one.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, there’s no guarantee that with health he’ll actually be able to pitch the way he used to. His injuries may have had a permanent affect on his pitching. Side question – I can’t figure out whether I should be using affect or effect in that last sentence. Is that a place where either would work?
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by marcello on Jan 30, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are exceptions, but usually
affect = verb
effect = noun
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
affect can also be a noun, as when someone wears an ascot or drinks gin out of a wine glass.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jan 30, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
effect can be a verb in some cases, too.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, couldn't help myself
From Webster’s:
usage: Effect and affect are often confused because of their similar spelling and pronunciation. The verb 2affect usually has to do with pretense . The more common 3affect denotes having an effect or influence <the weather affected everyone’s mood>. The verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result .
I vote for effect… because of the noun-ishness. But I never went to college, so grain of salt and so forth…
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 30, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The above is correct
affect (v): to influence
affect (n): disposition, mood
effect (v): to achieve a noticeable result (to effect a change in…)
effect (n): the result of an action
by cornball on Jan 30, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And I definitely make fun of people who think Lowry can be traded. That’s how the whole RAGE gimnick started, actually. Someone said Lowry should be traded, I said that his injuries precluded that, and he replied, “geez, calm down.”
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What? You’ve got it all wrong. All the kids are using Facebook these days.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 30, 2009 11:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Using whatbook? Never heard about it. It’s not like there’s a secret McC Facebook group in which we all make fun of the uncool users. Nope. Nosiree.
by Grant on Jan 30, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And it would certainly not be accurate to say that, recently, delorean has posted there more than on MCC itself.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks!!
I HATE YOU GUYS TOO, YOU BASTIGES!!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 30, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least they are off my lawn.
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Jan 30, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Grant: “Natto sure does smell funny!”
Not Grant Pretending To Be Someone Else: “Yes, I never cared for that food either.”
Grant: “How could you have possibly misinterpreted that?”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jan 30, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Elitists!!!
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Jan 30, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If said group did exist, I’m sure there would be all kinds of wacky comments and hijinks. It would be a virtual party!
by chilibean_3 on Jan 30, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So are the viruses.
This just in...Bobby Estalella can apply oral suction to a deceased pack animal's penile extremity.
by victor frankenstein on Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m fully on board with an OOOOOOOO! REEEEEEEEBAY! chant. It’s as much tribute to Jose as anything else. As long as Juan’s a reasonably good guy, there’s no reason not to. We need something other than the “BEAR! REE!” chant, and “He’s! A! Bum!” is only fun from the bleachers.
by David Arnott on Jan 30, 2009 11:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t Juan assault his wife, or something?
by Grant on Jan 30, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about that, but he was accused of being involved in a shooting a few years ago in the DR. I think he was eventually cleared.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Secret Pop
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 11:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Look at the grin on that sun
I think he’s hiding something….
by neurofarm on Jan 30, 2009 11:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I quite like that roster, tbh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jan 30, 2009 11:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
if Phelps makes the roster
at the expense of Velez or Roberts I might actually believe in my SIG.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
by zenbitz on Jan 30, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s a good test.
I still say Sabean’s going to do something really dumb before the offseason is over. He’s got some dumb move burning a hole in his pocket, just you wait.
by Evan on Jan 30, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this roster
It continues the Giants’ green tradition of recycling jersey letters:
Jose Uribe —> Juan Uribe
just like:
Jack Clark → Will Clark Moises Alou
Bobby Bonds —> Barry Bonds
Don Mueller —> Bill Mueller
Felipe/Matty/Jesus Alou -
Too bad we never got Ed Ott. We need to pick up some Justin Speier and Brian Fuentes, pronto.
by Sabertooth on Jan 30, 2009 12:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
well, crap, I shoulda previewed that I guess.
by Sabertooth on Jan 30, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jack Clark leads straight to Moises Alou. Somehow that makes sense to me.
by Evan on Jan 30, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was trying to type little arrows
a dash, a dash, and then one of these: >
The formatting here doesn’t like that.
by Sabertooth on Jan 30, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Service → Scott Servais.
Waiit, that doesn’t quite work.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet we could get this guy from the Bucs pretty cheap…
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by EliminateMe on Jan 30, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, he did have a 114 OPS+ last sesaon!
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2007, actually. Last year he had a .704 OPS in AAA.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson Williams had a .538 OPS at Low-A last year, and he’s a better hitter than elite prospects – so this Carlos Maldonado must be GREAT!
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OMG SABES WTF ARE U DOIN, SIGN MALDONADO
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maldonado would be good
Though I’d settle for David Ortiz
by Sabertooth on Jan 30, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We could even call him Candy for short!
Of course, why we’d want to recreate Candy Maldonado is beyond me.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same reason people long for nasty fast food they grew up with...
…but can’t get where they live now.
Crap + Distance = Nostalgia.
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by EliminateMe on Jan 30, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“I’m so hungry, I could eat at Arby’s!”
I used to be like that about Taco Bell. It’s been a few years since I’ve been to one, though. I’ve become a food snob in my dotage.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Although I did just eat about a quarter pound of dried cranberries. What the hell is wrong with me!?
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re going to have the most massive dump ever.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking that I talk too damn much here, but then I looked and you have about 5,000 more comments than I do. Of course, jponry has about 13,000 more than me, and Natto has about 23,000 more than me.
Now, all three of you have been regular participants for longer than me, but still, the thought that people are MORE chatty than I am on MCC is a little frightening.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What can I say, we like to talk about everything.
If my post count scares you, do yourself a favor and NOT look at howtheyscored’s post count.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Natto’s got him beat by about 10,000 comments.
There’s a message board I participate in that has a feature where you can list users by number of posts – that’d be interesting to see here.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if there will ever be a MCC thread that doesn’t eventually veer wildly and bizarrely off-topic.
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by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s hope that day never comes.
by chilibean_3 on Jan 30, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s been especially ADD-y here the last week. It’s been a fun week, I’m glad I didn’t have much to do at work.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Jan 30, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We just want baseball.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on Jan 31, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t lie, no one here likes baseball.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Jan 31, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see it broken down by number of words. Who has written more: Natto with 30,000 posts, or OGC with 700 or whatever?
by Evan on Jan 30, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t like to see it broken down by words. It’d just make me depressed at all the novels I could’ve written but didn’t with those words.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
by jcb9 on Jan 30, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am the champion, my friends....
And I will go fighting…
to the end…
Adoptive parental unit of Kevin " 2007's Most Spectacular Pitcher" Pucetas.
"I'm a Giant now... I like watching the ball get up there" - Wendell Fairley
"I'm really proud to be on this team." - Nate Schierholtz
"Woo hoo" - Tim "The Kid" Lincecum
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jan 30, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know Natto..
I missed out on about 2 years of gameday thread comments. I’m going to try and come back with a bang this season you better look out.
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"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on Jan 31, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll put my money on OGC and Sharksrog. There are two people on this could I can tell immediately who they are by just looking at their posts. It’s OGC and Sharksrog.
Also, GRM is pretty easy to spot out with his spelling mistakes and alternating caps!
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible sentence is terrible
/needs coffee
There are two people on this site that I can tell immediately who they are by just looking at their posts. It’s OGC and Sharksrog.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We need brackets.
OGC vs sharksrog
xanthan vs. Goofus
howtheyscored vs. jponry
BvCE vs. BruteSentiment
oldjacket vs. oldrips
like that.
by Evan on Jan 30, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a lightweight: 7,000 comments.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ALL OUT DUEL YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK JPONRY I’M COMING FOR YOU NOW!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 30, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YOURE GOING DOWN MOTHERFUCKERRRRR
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jan 30, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OVER MY DEAD BODY ASSSHOLE!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 30, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no mistaking a Vic comment, though I’d be hard pressed as to tell you why.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s true too. He has a pretty distinctive style.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah , good one. It’s the space before punctuation marks .
by Evan on Jan 30, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that I think about it, I can always tell an Rxmeister post too. It’s always a huge lump of text sprinkled liberally with ‘??’s and RAGE.
by xanthan on Jan 30, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rxmeister vs. jcb9, then. RAGEFEST ’09!!
by Evan on Jan 30, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine Rxmeister as a tough, irritable New Yawker with a checkered past. The Anthony Bourdain of pharmaceutical Giants fans.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Jan 30, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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