ESPN ensures nobody will ever watch Sunday Night Baseball again
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 21, 2009 9:51 PM PST
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So once we rejoiced when we heard that Joe Morgan was leaving the Sunday Night Baseball announcing team on ESPN. Not only is good old Joe staying, but ESPN added insult to...uh...bad announcing.
They hired Steve Phillips as a third voice for the broadcasts.
Guys I can't even do this anymore. I love Jon. But the combined power of suck of Morgan and Phillips is just too much. We have Jon five days a week with a great broadcasting team, and that's good enough for me.
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Jon Miller is fantastic enough by himself.
Beats teaming him up with Joe Buck.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jan 21, 2009 10:03 PM PST reply actions
Fuck the heck?
What the hell, ESPN? Are you fucking retarded? When are they going to learn that trowing a third announcer at something is always always always idiotic?
I swear, I think they want the ratings to tank. The sad thing is, plenty of people still watch and think those dickheads know what they’re talking about. The amount of non analysis will be staggering. “So guys, why do you think this guy’s been struggling?”
JM: “Consistency!!”
SP: “Trade him for Victor Zambrano!!!”
God help us all.
Huh? Whu' happen'?
The sad thing is , people still watch and think those dickheads know what they’re talking about. The amount of non analysis will be staggering.
Well , we can always drop by McC for all that analysis we missed while we were watching the game.
Admittedly , I don’t technically know jack shit about baseball…and though I occasionally try to make sense out of your statistical jabberings I have to admit I don’t pay that much attention to them. Does my ignorance lessen my enjoyment of the game? Not that I notice.
I’ve read a lot of disdain for a lot of broadcasters here , particularily McCarver , Morgan and Buck…and now Phillips. It’s funny , though , I never notice how terrible they are.
I guess I’m just too busy watching to be listening.
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Jan 21, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
With the exception of Buck and McCarver, I completely agree. I think people get way too caught up by announcers. It’s baseball for crying out loud. Enjoy the game.
Enjoy the game!
You sounded just like Jeff Kent when you said that! /tips hat
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
exactly. If I want to watch the game I don’t care who the announcers are, I’m going to watch it. And if it’s a game I have no interest in, I won’t. The announcers may affect how much you enjoy the game, but they’re not difference makers in whether you watch or not.
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
In all fairness, Steve Phillips wasn’t responsible for the Kazmir-Zambrano trade. He’s still a huge moron though.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
Oh
I thought they were making it official that only Red Sox and Yankees games would be broadcast.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
I thought they made that official a few years ago.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 22, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
How dare you sir
How dare you
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 21, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
no way!
Actually, who knows. I could be convinced.
To me, Miller has a perfect self-confidence: knowledgeable enough to help us picture the situation when he’s solo or operating without an analyst; knowledgeable enough to know how to draw expertise out of analysts when he’s paired with one (either Kruk or Joe Morgan); and secure enough in his own knowledge of the game to let the analyst explain the strategy of a game situation instead of worrying about proving to his audience that he himself knows as much as the analyst.
by non sequitur on Jan 22, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
What the f&*#
Did you just say??
For WilltheThrill, this is Jon Miller saying goodnight. . . .
by WilltheThrill on Jan 22, 2009 4:47 AM PST up reply actions
/warms up tar and feathers
I had to read your comment three times to make sure you said that. Giants’ fans have been, and are currently very lucky to have one of the best broadcast teams in baseball (with the exception of Greg Papa).
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My adopted son Matt Downs . Utility Infielder with a Bat !
Greg Papa
I’m glad that I’m not the only one who finds him Irritating.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
I think..
There is no one out there who doesn’t find him irritating.
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Nah
I can’t hate the guy that gave us the “worst baserunning in the history of the game” call. That, all by itself, gives the guy a pass.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 22, 2009 7:47 AM PST up reply actions
Also
He proclaimed the Cardinals dead.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 22, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
Who was that again?
(the Worst Baserunner)
Still-proud, adoptive mama of Notgardo Alfonzo, who's back from the 50-game purgatory. He promises never to do it again. I couldn't get him to promise to hit, though. We're working on that with bribes of M&Ms, kind of like potty training.
by tk on Jan 22, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Ruben Rivera:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUBKuqqxDDU
Wow. I still can’t believe how bad that was.
by scotterduder on Jan 22, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I'll put the tar on simmer....
Who is your fave then?
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 22, 2009 7:49 AM PST up reply actions
Scully is a gem
A guilty pleasure, being a Dodger guy, but a gem nonetheless. I hear him a lot because living in SoCal I tune in when the Giants are in town. He totally gets the Giants-Dodger rivalry, and, since he’s personally witnessed more than half of it during his career (let that sink in a minute), Vin always has new nuggets. Just beautiful.
When I was a kid I had the privelege of listening to Scully, Simmons, Hodges, Caray, and Gowdy. True greats. Vin is the last man standing.
I do like John Miller a lot, and I guess I’m in the minority, but I don’t mind Morgan when they’re together. Kruk and Kuip are a blast.
Al Leiter is a guy I really like. I’ve learned more about pitching when he’s been in the booth than from all other announcers combined. Seaver is good, too.
The worst: Ted Lightner, the Padres announcer. Fran Healy is also really godawful. So was Steve Lyons. Buck and McCarver of course.
This. I love Scully. He’s a classic and a treasure.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 22, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
I do love Scully buuuuut
Living in SoCal i get to hear him a lot cuz i need my baseball fix. But listening to Vinny lately he is starting to wear thin. He is starting to let his hatred of the Giants bleed through and is saying some nasty stuff he wouldn’t have said three years ago.
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
Vince is around 80 years old and has lost a step or two. Back in the day he would paint the picture of the game in your head as if you were sitting in the third row. Never felt he was a “homer” and always never went two minutes without giving the listener the score of the game.
Oh yeah
even three years, he made it worthwhile for me to watch Dodger games, and he still is leaps and bounds better then Charlie Steiner and Rick Monday. I kinda wanna punch Monday in the face.
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
Oh Vin
:(
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 22, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
I remember when I was living in San Luis Obispo, I’d watch Giants games on TV and Scully would say the exact same things about each Giants player Every. Single. Time.
Did you know Randy Winn is the cousin of former major league player Damon Buford? Because I sure do!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
this
exactly this.
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jan 24, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
also,
Randy Winn played baseball with, you guessed it, Steve Nash at Santa Clara University!
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jan 24, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
OT
Phoenix’ love affair with Nash – and Steve Kerr – is on the rocks.
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Jan 25, 2009 1:31 AM PST up reply actions
I’d be glad to take Nash. He’s been my favorite player for awhile. Heck I bet Kerr can still shoot better than any of the warriors (except maybe Morrow)
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 25, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll always go all in with the declaration that Ted Leitner is the worst play-by-play announcer in baseball. His infamous, “I’ll take the Padres clubhouse over the Mets talent…anyday!” early last season was the coffin into the inferno for me.
Plus the Padres radio commentary is literally Tuesdays with Morrie come to life with Leitner and Jerry Coleman. It can be funny in a sadistic, chuckle to yourself way.
it's always noonan somewhere
by sectionop92 on Jan 24, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
I like Coleman
Because he played, and he played on five consecutive World Series champions, with the likes of Dimaggio and Mantle and Berra and Raschi and Lopat and Reynolds against the Whiz Kids and the Coogan’s Bluff Miracle guys and da bums, so he’s got some stories to tell, and every so often when the Giants are in SD I can pull in AM 610 and listen to some stories, and I like to listen to stories when I’m taking in a game. It’s ok if I’ve heard them before.
But Lightner gives me nothing. I lived in SD in the early 80s, when Lightner was just a local TV sports anchor, and he was really kind of a cutting asshole. That made him actually interesting. Now it’s like he’s overcorrected. He’s just swill.
I don’t know if you’ve ever explained this before but how in the world are you a Giant’s fan? I’m just curious. You seem to love everything about LA, grew up in LA and yet somehow you’re a Giant’s fan.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jan 22, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
98% can comprehend. So 23% can still learn and there is always the 10%ers which we can do nothing about
Scully is great to watch for one game, but if you have to watch him for an entire series he will tell you the same stories about the players every night. Yes, Vin. Tell me about Bengie Molina’s dad again. I was covering my ears the first three games of the series.
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
Dead on. He does the tell all the “did you know” stories during game one then repeats them the other games. But i do enjoy his work. Too bad…you know…..
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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Jan 22, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Nailed it
haha i had forgot about that, he will also repeat himself in games due to his old age. And he has called a player by someone elses name from like the 80s lately.
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
as much as I love Duane Kuiper, he makes even more mistakes than Scully does, and he doesn’t have the age excuse. Some of his mistakes make me laugh, some make me cringe, and some make me wonder if I heard right. I’ll call my friend and say “did Kuip really just say that Benito Santiago is on deck instead of Bengie?”
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
There is a tv announcer for Pittsburgh that does a good job, but i can’t remember his name for the life of me.
Giant Dirtbags: Brian Anderson, Todd Jennings, Steve Hammond, John Bowker
Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Jan 22, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/team/broadcasters.jsp?c_id=pit
"If I can change and you can change, then everybody can change!" Rocky Balboa, Rocky IV
Sort of agreed
He’s my fourth favorite Giants announcer, behind Kruk, Kuip, and Flemming (in no particular order). I don’t think he’s bad, but I always prefer those three to him. Greg Papa, however, can eat a dick.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
I feel the same way (including the Greg Papa eating a dick part).
by Norm Median on Jan 22, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
I do not think Jon Miller is bad. In fact he is excellent announcer however after listening to him for years always felt he talked down to some people. At the current time believe he sometimes uses Flemming too much as his straight man and sometimes even walks right over him.
How does he talk down to people?
“I say old bean, the batter struck that ball rather hard! Now, let me discuss the finer points of wine tasting!”
When Jon is screwing around with that stuff, he always makes a joke of it. I remember the “gravitas” inning last year. It basically had Flemm ROFL for the entire inning they broadcast.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 22, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
The thing is… we spend a whole summer with these guys, i like that they have actual personalities. Heck, the Giants broadcast team probably spends more time in my house (relatively speaking) during the course of a year than my relatives!
Yep
One of my exes recalls the Brewers broadcast team fondly. He told me of a broadcast shortly after Easter where long periods of silence would pass between the TV guys. All of a sudden, Daron Sutton blurts out “hey, Peeps!”
They’d swiped some of their kids’ Easter candy and were chowing down during the broadcast. I found that pretty funny.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 22, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite was an “All Bonds, All the Time” couple of innings he did a few years ago when he and Flem were both on the TV side for some reason. This was of course poking fun at the media’s obsession with Bonds which was at a particular frenzy then. So when Bonds went into left field to play defense, they insisted on shots of him standing out there doing nothing, with them commenting on it.
At one point the pitcher failed to get a close call. A few seconds later Bonds folded his arms, probably for no particular reason. But Miller scrutinized the arm-folding at length, something like: “Now, we don’t know if Bonds is just resting, or whether he is expressing displeasure with the call.”
by non sequitur on Jan 22, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
Miller is great
but when he does Sunday Night Baseball with Joe Morgan, he seems to be holding back a bit so as not to embarrass Joe, whom ESPN considers the “star” of the broadcast, though if you watch enough he does slip in a few corrections. He also asks Joe really dumb questions to that Joe can answer without getting too confused, which I find amusing.
And he’s the best play by play guy in the business, though I did think he slipped a bit last year, but I thought all the Giants announcers slipped a bit last year, which I blame on the shitty team they had to watch everyday, rather than there being something wrong with them.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 22, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
You shush.
Still-proud, adoptive mama of Notgardo Alfonzo, who's back from the 50-game purgatory. He promises never to do it again. I couldn't get him to promise to hit, though. We're working on that with bribes of M&Ms, kind of like potty training.
by tk on Jan 22, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Oh wilriv....
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
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God, this is fuckign awful
I thought the rumor was they were going to bring in Rick Sutcliffe and he was going to “solve that thing” (said in incredibly drunk voice)
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jan 21, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions
Baseball needs more drunks in the booth and less pretentious, on the wagon know-it-alls.
I can only take so many jingoistic baseball terms mixed in with how the computer strike zone overrules the ump and the hissy fits that always follows. A good Harry Caray-like anti-technology rant would be nice someday, but I know it isn’t coming.
it's always noonan somewhere
by sectionop92 on Jan 24, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I saw the thread title and said "uh-oh"
I was right, definite “uh-oh”s abound here, and not even the “uh-oh oreos luckily they still taste good” kind. Poor Miller. Lots of people outside the area actually think he’s a bad announcer because he’s stuck with Morgan’s idiotic ramblings. Now it’s only going to get worse.
Y’know, I was surprised that ESPN never broadcasted any of Lincecum’s starts last year, considering he was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Then again, considering how ESPN operates, maybe I shouldn’t be all that surprised.
I think they operate on a 5 year delay. So, after Timmy wins his 5th consecutive Cy Young, they’ll finally show some of his starts. But not too many, they’re going to want to be sure he’s not just some flash in the pan.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
Lincecum doesn't pitch for the Yankees or Red Sox
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
Didn't you hear?
The Giants ceased to exist after that Barry guy disappeared, unless they need a Wednesday night alternate game for ESPN2.
by rightcenterfielder on Jan 22, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
I don't get Steve Phillips
I don’t get how this guy ever got to be a GM, especially for a major market team. He wrote a feature for ESPN in his ongoing post-GM period a little while ago in which he assessed the sitting GMs. Every other GM profile was the description “he knows what he wants”. What on earth does this mean? I’m perfectly willing to accept that it means SOMETHING—and maybe even something useful. But not without some further explanation, which he didn’t provide. So he’s either too dumb to do anything but spout stoopid cliches or too dumb to realize he needs to explain himself further.
I hope he proves himself better at broadcasting than he was GMing or writing. (Though I don’t really care, as I don’t have ESPN anymore.)
Confession: I wouldn’t have minded ESPN firing Jon Miller if it meant that he would stick with the Giants on weekends from now on.
I know what I want, too. Lots of stuff.
I’m assuming this comment now makes me officially at least as smart as Steve Phillips.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 22, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Did ESPN hold a mock press conference for Phillips before they introduced him?
The problem I have with Steve Phillips is that he’s not a trained broadcaster and he’s just lucked into his position instead of going through a process of earning it. He used to be a GM and now he’s the supposed darling of ESPN’s baseball telecasts, for no better reason than that he sounds smart. That is more indicative of favoritism on ESPN’s part than actual talent that Phillips has.
If that is the case and it very much looks like it, that is just ESPN pandering to the average fan for the ratings once again and not giving a damn about the integrity of its programming. ESPN has become a bloated, corrupt entity that is all about the shine and very little about the substance. Unless they can have it both ways…just ask the Cowboys and Pacman Jones about that.
it's always noonan somewhere
Epic fail, ESPN.
I hope FJM comes back, though.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 22, 2009 12:24 AM PST reply actions
Ugh
Just give us Jon back for the full 162. And put baseball back on NBC so we can have Costas and Kubek back in the booth. Not sure if anyone caught those ALCS games from 89 with the A’s on MLB Network, NOW that was a good broadcasting duo. Knowledgable, didn’t crack stupid ass jokes to fill the dead air, and everything flowed pretty damn well.
This
Costas and Kubek were a GREAT pair. Costas is obviously a solid broadcaster (and a very good studio host, esp. for the Olympics) but his best gig was probably as baseball play-by-play guy.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
Bob Costas can eat Greg Papa’s dick as far as i’m concerned.
He’s as bad or worse than Joe Buck.
Nobody is as bad as McCarver, tho. I fucking can’t stand that asshole.
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by The Gene Hackman on Jan 22, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
+1
Costas is a self-righteous tool.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 22, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I also hate Bob Costas.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 22, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
i think
he’s a little midget man who knows nothing about baseball
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
This whole thing made me kind of dislike him as well.
by scotterduder on Jan 22, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
NO ONE IS AS BAD OR WORSE THAN JOE BUCK.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
Much agreed
He ruins baseball and football. HE DOESNT EVEN LIKE BASEBALL! HE WOULD RATHER WATCH REALITY TV!
I don’t like Buck but Costas is a good announcer. I think some of our hatred for these guys is because of the way they were anti Barry Bonds over the years.
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
Costas is good at play-by-play when he’s not giving his opinions on How Things Should Be.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
I think this is correct
Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Bob Costas knows you’re posting this from your mom’s basement, therefore you opinion is invalid
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 24, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
My hate for Costas is not even so much for baseball
It actually began watching him on Olympics coverage.
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Someone get on it!
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by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
buck’s playcalling was soooo bad during the greatest all star game ever, last july. if he was three-dimensional with a brain, he could’ve had a play calling clip set in stone with that last play at the plate, kinda like al michaels at the olympics, or russ hodges. instead he squandered that opportunity b/c he sucks.
"If I can change and you can change, then everybody can change!" Rocky Balboa, Rocky IV
But we gotta like Joe Buck…his father was a legend!
Joe does the funny Pepsi commercial!
Joe introduces us to that talking baseball that explains the pitches and tells us when we get the free tacos from Taco Bell!
Then again, if you record any Joe Buck games on a DVR on a Hi-Def TV, you can see the small objects orbiting his head when you pause the screen.
it's always noonan somewhere
You would think the networks would think twice
with sites like this out there.
Steve Phillips, Professional Idiot"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move."-Leroy "Satchel" Paige
My adopted son Matt Downs . Utility Infielder with a Bat !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JenTYMD3ie4
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
I love Jon, but he’s never as good as he usually is on SNB (I imagine having to be around Joe Morgan drains your life force). This is probably only going ot make it worse.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Yeah, Jon on the radio is awesome. He’s a really smart guy that talks about books, movies, etc. But on ESPN, he’s a different guy. I don’t like him on ESPN.
Yeah, Jon on the radio is awesome. He’s a really smart guy that talks about books, movies, etc.
I have to agree. I have been known to sit in the car for 10 minutes after getting home, just to hear Miller on the radio, even though the game is on in HD inside the house.
One of my favorite “miller-isms” is when he starts into a story about going to a game when he was younger, and interspersing the game call at the same time. “ I remember seeing Willie Mays play against the Dodgers at Chavez Ravine. He walks up to the plate against Drysdale and……there’s a line drive into right field, Lewis rounds third…coming home. Giants take the lead for the first time in the game”
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move."-Leroy "Satchel" Paige
My adopted son Matt Downs . Utility Infielder with a Bat !
On ESPN broadcasts, Jon seemingly has to dumb himself down in order for Joe Morgan to keep up or to keep things as broad as possible. He doesn’t really have the freedom to go off on tangents as he often does on radio. ESPN probably gives him a list of topics to cover at certain times during a broadcast.
Give us Jon back
Go with Gary Thorne and Bill Clement. I know its not ESPN Hockey, but Thorne isn’t a bad MLB announcer and Clement works well with him. I’m kidding….well sort of ha.
Thorne isn’t a bad MLB announcer
I will have to very strongly disagree with that
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jan 22, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Thorne is pretty good. I always find myself wanting him to call some of the east coast games when the pair I’m listening to sucks or the game isn’t that interesting.
it's always noonan somewhere
I also like Gary Thorne.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 24, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
He used to do Cubs games when Dusty was their manager. It was great TV hearing him slam Dusty about how the team was being run. I think it even got to the point where WGN told him to knock it off.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 22, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I believe he's still witht he Cubs.
When I worked with a cubs fan I’d put the Cubs game on Gameday Audio for him and I think it was Steve Stone.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Sunday Night Baseball
as with all the national broadcasts, the Networks will try to provide the least offensive and bland announcers there are – not to baseball nerds, mind you (we can never be pleased), but to the regular casual fan who doesn’t visit sites like this very often, doesn’t know their team’s budget and doesn’t care all that much when the games aren’t on.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 22, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions
doesnt anyone else get tired of miller throwing out spanish like he is better than everyone else? stop telling me what whatshisname is broadcasting on espn deportes and then jabbering “adios pelota”
i like jon miller, but he gives me the same vibe as bob costas…
personally, i always liked hank greenwald and his stories about the aught 6 madison city gargoyles and such, i was sad when he left
i adopt brian sabean... take that dramatic irony!
by Headhunter Rollins on Jan 22, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions
your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
she's right, you know. you should feel bad.
there is one thing that puzzles me about JM tho. Is he slurring words when he says “Bounding Ball, passed the diving 3rd baseman” and means to say “bouncing” or does he really prefer Bounding to Bouncing?
Because that’s just stupid.
Otherwise JM is heads and shoulders above the rest of the talking heads.
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by The Gene Hackman on Jan 22, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
ah, the sage advice of the one with the only good opinion
i adopt brian sabean... take that dramatic irony!
by Headhunter Rollins on Jan 22, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t mind a little Spanish.
Do you find Spanish to be the language of haughtiness?
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
/adjusts monocle and sprinkles conversations with “cabron”
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
que ridiculo!
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by The Gene Hackman on Jan 22, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
¡Digo frijol viejo, el azota golpeó esa pelota más bien duramente! ¡Ahora, permitió que mí discutir los puntos más sutil de probar de vino!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 22, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Srsly. That took me 25 seconds to translate digitally.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 22, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
yeah specifically from the
throwing out spanish like he is better than everyone else?
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
Interesting
take it as Miller thinking he knows more than another person and wanting to showoff. As mentioned earlier I find him a bit pompous.
you mean with the “adios pelota” bit?
Surely you are being clever, Socrates.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
As mentioned earlier I find him a bit pompous.
– el wink –
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 22, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
Who the hell is “So-crates”?
SOH-Craytes?
wtf OJ, you’re confusing me with your mabble jabble
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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*For the Fresno Grizzlies
And to me, it just seems like he’s having fun.
So he knows some Spanish? Lots of people know Spanish. I don’t see how it’s any different from when Lyle and Baron go back and forth in French out here. They’re just getting their kicks.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 22, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, it’s not like Spanish is some obscure pidgin spoken only by anthropologists and a handful of cannibals.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
And JM did grow up in Hayward. I mean … if you grew up in Hayward back when us old fogeys did, you are going to know a bit of Spanish. (And that’s another reason I like listening to Miller, he’s not that much older than I am, and we both attended high school in Hayward – so we have some similar memories.)
i miss greenwald too. the first giants games i heard on the radio, even before i started paying attention, were by him. hell, he was the sound of the RADIO to me for years. i’d still take miller over him any day of the week, though.
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
throwing out spanish like he is better than everyone else?
What in the? The one simply doesn’t follow from the other.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 22, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I interpreted that as saying Jon Miller is an elitist because he can possibly speak more than one language.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jan 22, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
I still don’t think it makes sense.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 22, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
I read that as the usual anti intellectualism
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During the postseason games on radio last year, there was a weird tension between Joe and Jon. Joe was giving grouchier-than-usual, told-you-so answers, and he was having none of Miller’s attempts at humor. A couple times Miller sounded so taken aback by Joe’s pissiness that he fell silent, which is obviously rare for him. It sounded like a breakup. I don’t see how adding a second analyst is going to help. I’m all for deemphasizing Joe’s know-it-allness, but making Miller have to play referee is not going to sound good, nor is bruising Joe’s considerable ego.
I know someone who might volunteer
Her name is, uh, … Pasha
Still-proud, adoptive mama of Notgardo Alfonzo, who's back from the 50-game purgatory. He promises never to do it again. I couldn't get him to promise to hit, though. We're working on that with bribes of M&Ms, kind of like potty training.
by tk on Jan 22, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Oh..
I thought you just meant they were getting rid of Jon Miller. I thought, "Great! Then I don’t have to put up with Papa all the time!
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I'm OK with it
Jon Miller is very, very good, of course, and I don’t really have a problem with either Joe Morgan or Steve Phillips.
Now, if they’ll just schedule some Giants games!
Just when I thought we could be friends...
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 23, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
Kype and Kruk
I seriously love these two guys…. and my telivision whould have been kicked in two seasons ago if these two had not made it worth watching.
Kype and Kruk forever!!
GIVE SCOTT McCLAIN A SHOT!!!!!
It appears you may have to deal with them
The Giants schedule had a change in time on their website compared to schedules that have been released previously.
Sunday, May 17th (Lincecum bobblehead day) originally scheduled for 1:05PM is now listed as a 5:00PM. So that means ESPN is picking this game up. I can’t figure this one out. Giants had no national TV games in 2008 and already has one for 2009.
A McC newcomer but not outstanding.
They’re playing the Mets on that day. ZOMG EAST COAST BIAS
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 25, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
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