Winterball: BA Talks Guzman and Sandoval
Some BA lovin' for Jesus and the Fat Man.
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That’s a good read. It’s nice to hear that Pablo is still hitting the ball, hopefully it continues as he learns to walk a little. What do you all make of him spending his time at 1st instead of 3rd, do you think that factors into the plans for this season?
by dogdays on Jan 13, 2009 10:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Keep hitting like that and he can walk to the bank.
by wilriv21 on Jan 13, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep hitting like that and he can take his limo to the bank.
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by WalrusMan on Jan 13, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Weird thought.
Given what was said about off speed pitches in Venezuala does any one else think a trip there should be in Bowker’s future?
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by daveinexile on Jan 13, 2009 10:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
This season, the league as a whole hit .282/.357/.423 and averaged 5.3 runs per game
everybody hits well in Venezuela, evidently.
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by The Gene Hackman on Jan 13, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a way to use this information to "equalize" Guzman and Sandoval's stats?
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by hairball on Jan 14, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah this is what OPS+ or an MLE would do but
the sample size is too small to worry about this anyway.
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by zenbitz on Jan 14, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Equalized"
well, basically all I think that can be taken from at least this. OPS+ uses the park adjusted league numbers, while I used the league numbers from BA. I don’t think there should be much difference, but perhaps one of the actual stat geeks can tell you more since I’m just kind of playing the roll of one now to feel important.
Guzman OPS+: 167
Sandoval OPS+: 185
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by WalrusMan on Jan 14, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Forget about it
Guzman has no equal
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Jan 14, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe bowker can share a room with pete happy ?
by giantdonkey on Jan 13, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Giant among Angels on Jan 13, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Guzman move...
I’m still skeptical that it will pan out for us, but it’s exactly the type of move that a team like the Giants should be making and I am glad they did so. Sabean has really made me re-think him this off-season
by NeifiChicken on Jan 13, 2009 10:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rethink these two words about Brian Sabean: Travis Denker!
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by jt_7241 on Jan 13, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am surprised Pablo could speak. I think Rxmeister declared him dead around Christmas time.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 13, 2009 10:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’d watch a sitcom called Jesus and the Fatman
We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth
by oldjacket on Jan 13, 2009 11:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
that was my first thought.
It's spelled "M-A-R-C-H-I-N-G-B-A-N-D."
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by Takimoto on Jan 13, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What/Who does Pablo Eat?
It is truly amazing that he can play 214 games in one winter! Has he eaten Superman yet?
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by say hey nation on Jan 13, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
fat pablo is fat
Recall his belly going POW
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 13, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
CHALLENGE ME
We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth
by oldjacket on Jan 13, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
great moments in McC history
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by hairball on Jan 14, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus is my adopted son. What does that make me.
Guzman is a legitimate prospect who has pulverized pitchers in Venezuela. In 269 plate appearances for Leones del Caracas, Guzman batted .349/.435/.616
.349/.435/.616 You could knock 100 points off each of those and it would still be the best 3B the giants have had in quite some time.
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by Goofus on Jan 13, 2009 1:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It means that you'll be taking a back seat to your wife and kid. You, sir, are superfluous.
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by Idaho Nick on Jan 13, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It means your son is a zombie and is cannibal chow.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 13, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Goofus can you adopt me? That way The Jesus and myself can be brothers!
I can haz homerunz!
by jbowl on Jan 13, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m really hoping Guzman gets a decent shot at 3B this spring. I doubt he’ll make the team, but what a great story he’d be, and it’d be nice to see Sabean win one once in a while.
by The Double Deuce on Jan 13, 2009 3:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Sandoval At 1B And Guzman At 3B Could Be Awsome!
But Guzman at Fresno far more likely. I do think Sandoval’s bat will be awsome though at whatever position he plays.
by giantsrainman on Jan 13, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Guzman > Ishi/Phelps, it would be hard to argue with the logic. It would probably improve the defense if we assume that Jesus is better at Pablo at 3rd.
What if Jesus outhits Frandsen/Velez/Burris in ST? Maybe he wins the starting 2B job with Frandsen as utility IF and Burris starting SS in AAA.
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by Goofus on Jan 13, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Every time I think about Pablo Sandoval
I feel warm and fuzzy inside. I was on sfgiants.com the other day and I was browsing the top plays archive of the year. From the day he was called up Pablo had a highlight almost every day.
by Sammy Danger on Jan 13, 2009 5:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pablolito!!!
I share that warm and fuzzy feeling. Pablo could really elevate the whole lineup. My only concern is that the shuffling between positions could distract him, but lets hope he’s one of those Latin hitting machines, a la Manny, Pujols. Guzman is also intriguing, though he has to be considered a backup plan.
by world wide suicide on Jan 13, 2009 6:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pablo = Vlad like
in his ability to hit for high average and not strike out or walk a lot. He also can crush just about any kind of pitch no matter what part of the zone. I can’t wait to see him hit a pitch that bounces for a double or home run, like Vlad has done.
And no I’m not saying he’s as good as Vlad, just similar in approach and ability to maintain good production despite what could be considered an over-aggressive approach. :)
by Hobbes2d on Jan 13, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would like Pablo to be more disciplined if there were better bats throughout the lineup to drive him in. For now, I like his aggressive approach. After a full season in the pros we can toss around the idea of comparing him to Vlad concerning the over-aggressive approach….. only if he keeps producing. Anyone know where his “out” pitch is? up and in? or is this TBD?
The wife is an Angel fan and having watched (too) many Angel games the past few years Vlad is very frustrating to watch hit as he flails swings out of his arse at crap most of the time. Though, I cannot argue with the fact that he produces year after year despite swinging out of the strike-zone so much.
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by Giant among Angels on Jan 13, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fatmans Nickname
I am new to this blog. Has there been a vote for nicknames to call the fatman?
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by say hey nation on Jan 14, 2009 6:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Been a host of them: Pablito, Paul Stanley (English translation/KISS singer), Kung Fu Panda, Pandaval
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Jan 14, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To answer your question “The Fat Man” is not widely used. We’re just letting Xanthan be Xanthan
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by Goofus on Jan 14, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes I call him the Attack Panda, or Fat Ichiro
We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth
by oldjacket on Jan 14, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pandaval and Fat Ichiro
are my favorites
by The Double Deuce on Jan 14, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Little Money
Molina= Big Money.
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by hairball on Jan 14, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome
Check out the McFAQ for some more nicknames, so you can get up to speed. Also, use the +reply option if there is a comment to which you wish to reply.
by Natto on Jan 14, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Thanks for the tips, I thought I replied last time but hey some things in life seem like they are ran by Bud Selig. The best and most appropriate nickname was Angel Villalona = Anvil
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by say hey nation on Jan 14, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that one too
and Dirty Sanchez. And the Enchanter. And the Thrill. Come to think of it, SF has a great nickname history.
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by hairball on Jan 14, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“Juggernate” is my current favorite
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by Goofus on Jan 14, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That one is great but
I like Velez’s nicknames the best.
Pickoff Von IronGlove
Fast Black Abe Lincoln
and the simple
Speedy McFuckup
by chilibean_3 on Jan 14, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Velez really does have the best nicknames.
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by marcello on Jan 14, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I especially like the last one, but the balance tips in Nate’s favor with Natto’s accompanying artwork.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Jan 15, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's true
The artwork really does put Nate in a special category.
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by marcello on Jan 15, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesomo!
Those are great nicknames, but wouldn’t it be awesome if some set up like a sweet 16 bracket and voted for the best one each time until we came up with one (or two or three) unified nicknames. Just for sh!ts and giggles. Its hard find a good with stuff related to the Giants in Philly.
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by say hey nation on Jan 14, 2009 9:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The best news someone from Philly can find out about the Giants is 23-11.
by wilriv21 on Jan 14, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So there is another Giants fan in Philly…
by Missing Barry on Jan 14, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like the sorting hat...
Nicknames kinda choose themsleves around here. When we’ve tried to formally unify behind a nickname, it didn’t work out so great.
I still like Pablito
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by Goofus on Jan 14, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya everyone will just start calling the nickname that fits the best next season, kinda like enchanter with Timmy.
I can haz homerunz!
by jbowl on Jan 14, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on! He’s The Missing Linc!!!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jan 14, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My friends call Lincecum “T-Linc”. I shudder every time I hear it.
by Natto on Jan 14, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I’m still waiting for Time Lincecum to catch on.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 14, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Enchanter...
Must make hat and wear it at a game next year.
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by WalrusMan on Jan 14, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
PAH!!!!!
BLOW!!!!!
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by WalrusMan on Jan 14, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
another great moment in McC history
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Jan 14, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Penis Coke jokes never get old.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Jan 15, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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