Never thought I would be happy about a Dodger Homerun
Webb just gave up a 3 run bomb to Manny Ramirez, this broke up a 0-0 tie and just could keep Lincecum in the Cy Race.
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first fanshot, kinda messed up the format, w/e
"I think I was the best player I ever saw"
Willie Mays, you ain't kidding
by CB30 on Sep 6, 2008 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh, it looks fine. Other than the “Weeb”.
by Natto on Sep 7, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would edit it, but i dont really care
"I think I was the best player I ever saw"
Willie Mays, you ain't kidding
by CB30 on Sep 8, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dream scenario: Webb shelled, but no decision D'backs win
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
by hairball on Sep 6, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Sep 6, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s definitely a good news/bad news scenario.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Sep 6, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum leads Webb in ERA by 0.81. I think the discussion should end there on who the better pitcher is.
by kingofthacove on Sep 6, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum also has like 50 more strike outs.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Sep 6, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Webb is more of a groundball pitcher though.
Rafael Rodriguez: More tools than Home Depot.
by BrianBokake on Sep 6, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so then give his a defense an award for recording his outs. Screw his wins. And i still contend that they should subtract any stats he’s compiled while facing the Giants…Tim’s NEVER had that advantage.
/btw i’m not this myopic, i’m just biased because i really really want to see Tim get the Cy.
by ExcuseMeSwing on Sep 6, 2008 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
an excellent point, sir.
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
by jasomack on Sep 7, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benitez once led the Giants in ERA, by far. He was clearly our best pitcher at the time.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Sep 6, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not really true. I assume you mean 2006, when his ERA was 3.52. Mike Staton and Kevin Correia both had better ERAs than Benitez that year (3.09, 3.49) and Schmidt and Kline weren’t far behind.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Sep 6, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t he our ERA leader in April of last year when he would only allow inherited runners to score?
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by groug on Sep 6, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, if howie meant he lead the team in ERA at some point in the midst of a season that may, of course, be the case. I assumed he meant for a season.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Sep 6, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I meant at some point in the midst of the season.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2008 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because relievers and starters are totally judged under the same criteria.
ERA is much more useful in determining a starter’s value than a reliever’s.
by kingofthacove on Sep 6, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree ERA has more value for starter than a reliever
But that doesn’t make it a useful catch-all stat.
I was being slightly hyperbolic for the sake of saying that NO discussion of a pitcher’s worth should start and end with ERA. Even among starters, it’s fairly prone to being affected by a number of weird things. Lowry and his 1/1 K/BB ratio and ridiculously unsustainable percentage of runners not allowed to score comes to mind immediately as an example of a pitcher who didn’t deserve his ERA over the course of an individual season.
Hell, by ERA alone, 2007 Lowry is pretty darn close to 2008 Cain. Maybe that’s a less hyperbolic way of driving my point home.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2008 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 ER, 6BB in 5.2 IP!
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Sep 6, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
3.41 ERA!
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Sep 6, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think 3 more wins
and continuing to lead ERA and Ks and Timmy will wrap it up.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 6, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
or one more Webb fail start
"I think I was the best player I ever saw"
Willie Mays, you ain't kidding
by CB30 on Sep 6, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think webb has more leeway
just a single win completely changes the way his season is perceived. CC is starting to get a lot of media play. wouldn’t it be totally giant-like to come in 2nd in the CY to a guy that pitches 15 games.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 6, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wont win with 8 losses to Lincecum’s 4 and Sabathia’s 1, thats one more bad start for Webb.
"I think I was the best player I ever saw"
Willie Mays, you ain't kidding
by CB30 on Sep 6, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats right i forgot he didnt get the loss last start
"I think I was the best player I ever saw"
Willie Mays, you ain't kidding
by CB30 on Sep 6, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weeb is overrated
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Sep 7, 2008 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Black Sabbathia
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Sep 7, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Sep 8, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BB Sabbathia
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Sep 8, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
youb is overrated
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two stats that could mean something
Lincecum: ERA+ 165, WHIP 1.18
Webb: ERA+ 133, WHIP 1.19
Granted, I doubt the voters are looking at these as much as wins, ERA and team performance, three of the stats that by most accounts should matter less when talking about an award for individual performance.
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by Flashfire on Sep 7, 2008 10:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
its sems like Timmy has lowered his WHIP by like .1 in the past month or so. That makes a difference in voting I thinks.
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
by kennv on Sep 8, 2008 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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