Worst All-Time Giants Team 83-08

Site whoring: I had fun writing this and I thought I'd share via the FANSHOT. I came up with the worst Giants roster from 1983-2008 (Essentially my lifetime of being a Giants fan).

Here's the roster:

1. 1992 Darren Lewis, CF
2. 2002 Tsuyoshi Shinjo, RF
3. 1992 Chris James, LF
4. 1995 Kirt Manwaring, C
5. 1999 Charlie Hayes, 3B
6. 1996 Steve Scarsone, 2B
7. 1995 J.R. Phillips, 1B
8. 2008 Omar Vizquel, SS
9. Pitcher

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pretty good defensive team though.

by cumball on Sep 3, 2008 11:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The OF would be pretty good, Shinjo and Lewis were fine defenders. Omar and Manwaring would be good on the infield.

Scarsone, Hayes, and Phillips are going to be poor defenders.

The thing is that I took into account defense some too, for example: Manwaring had a down defensive year in ‘95 and Lewis wasn’t as good in CF in ’92 as he was in the following few years.

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 3, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And the most stylish.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Sep 3, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Latin flavor + LCD belt buckles = brain melting

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 3, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tastes like

buuuuuuuuuuuuuurning…

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Sep 3, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Two Alternates

1B
Jose Vizcaino, 2006 – .194 Eqa (.210 / .304 / .261)
Phillips, 1995 – .207 Eqa (.195 / .256 / .351)
(although Vizcaino only played 11 G / 63 innings at first for us that year, that was still 11 G / 63 innings too many)

SS
Dreamy, 2008 – .165 Eqa (.185 / .249 / .215 )
El Malo, 2004 – .195 Eqa (.232 / .276 /.295)
BUT
Dreamy, 8 RAA2 in the field, and soooo luvable
and Niefi – 2 RAA2 in the field, and everyone hates him

by SnowLeopard on Sep 3, 2008 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

pitcher = zito

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 3, 2008 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Shinjo in RF is kind of cheating – he pretty much always played CF for us, no?

How sad is it that Neifi doesn’t even make the list?

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by jcb9 on Sep 3, 2008 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It is cheating, but my team needed Shinjo.

Neifi would have made the list if it wasn’t for Omar’s year this year.

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 3, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This should have been a FanSneeze

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Sep 3, 2008 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

or a nasty fanshit

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Sep 3, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gamershit.

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 3, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have the same feelings toward Manwaring as you do. I really liked him as a kid and can’t remember why. I did go to school with his neice during his Giant years, maybe that helped. I dunno.

by chilibean_3 on Sep 3, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Glad to know that I’m not the only Manwaring lover. I think a good bit of my liking him had to do with that I had a few of his cards.

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 3, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked Manwaring. He was a damn fine defensive catcher if nothing else.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Sep 3, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing else

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. - Bob Lemon, 1981

by Lyle on Sep 4, 2008 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like that he’s hitting 4th on my team.

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 4, 2008 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

After several years of Hill, Tamargo and Sadek and the like it tends to make Kirt Manwarring looks real good.

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by daveinexile on Sep 4, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

purple hayes

all in my brainnnnnnnss

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Sep 3, 2008 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Worst all-time… but only from 1983-2008?

I have set Dave Roberts free; if he comes back, it was meant to be.

by hometownboy on Sep 3, 2008 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That’s all the time I’ve known!

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by xanthan on Sep 3, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And here is the rotation....

1. 1998 Orel Leonard (IV) Hershiser
2. 1996 Osvaldo Fernandez
3. 2008 Barry Zito
4. 2001 Livan Hernandez
5. 1996 William Van Landingham

http://www.baycityball.com/2008/09/04/worst-giants-team-pitching-edition/#content

Thanks for reading!

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 4, 2008 7:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Rotation

1. 2008 Barry Zito
2. 2009 Barry Zito
3. 2010 Barry Zito
4. 2011 Barry Zito
5. 2012 Barry Zito

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Sep 4, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

this reminds me of the Best Site of the Universe post where he reveals that the 11 worst songs of 2004 were every track on How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb.

Travis Denker can hit a little. That's why I drive his bus.

by oldjacket on Sep 4, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as the idea of Orel being a Giant was pretty repulsive, he wasn’t that bad of a pitcher.

If you addressed this in your post, the link didn’t work for me.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Sep 4, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The link is working me, silly groug.

I addressed it (kinda).

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 4, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry

I know you want to qualify the list to certain years, but some performances are so infamous that they have to be included — please add “Boo” to your list for shortstop

by melottfan on Sep 4, 2008 9:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

A few alternatives -

First base David Green 1985 (248/301/347) at age 24 . His batting line was not as bad as Phillips yet he was out of the MLB by age 27 and part of bounty the Giants got for Jack Clark. No that there is some brutal hope crushing.

For second I’ll see you Brad Wellman. Take your pick of 214/296/247 or 226/274/291 in ’83 or 84 at age 24 &25. Young "promising" talent to crush hope for winning! Honorable mention goes to Rennie Stennitt. The biggest Free agent the Giants signed before Barry Bonds but his tour was a couple years before your time frame.

You sure there is not room for Max Venable’s 219/295/364 at age 26? Or Greg Liton’s 1990 245/284/314 in our R.F. spot?

At third can I interest you in Enerst Riles say 90 ( 200/313/381) vintage? Ok so he played third mostly the year before but he could man it.

I do applaud your not going for the easy answers at SS in LeMaster of Nefi.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Sep 4, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Great picks, Dave.

Thanks for the added insight. Max Venable is a great name, even if he wasn’t so good at the baseball thing.

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
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by xanthan on Sep 4, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excellent job, Dave

It reminded me of some painful memories. David Green might have been the most galling acquisition; essentially trading Jack Clark for Jose Uribe = does not compute.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. - Bob Lemon, 1981

by Lyle on Sep 4, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs