No more Omar, more Bochy, more...

LOL @ the first comment:

Then that tells me they will trade Sanchez, Bowker and Velez to the Mariners for Beltre (free agent year) and Morrow.

Really? I might…might trade Bowker and Velez for Beltre straight up. Sanchez? No flipping way.

Anyway…some pretty good news there. As hard as it is to watch Richie flail away, he’s a pretty decent utility bench player.

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 29, 2008 2:40 PM PDT 0 recs

I’d do it if we were getting Morrow.

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by Natto on Sep 29, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

As would I

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 29, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

This is the highest post..

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2008/09/29/full-transcript-of-brian-sabean-post-year-analysisoffseason-look-ahead/

The whole transcript is up.

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by WalrusMan on Sep 29, 2008 5:57 PM PDT up 0 recs

who is this Morrow character?

I’ve obviously misunderestimated him and made a tragic mistake.

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 29, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

I’ll let you know on the morrow

by Moggeee on Sep 29, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

He’s the guy the Mariners chose over Lincecum. They used him as a reliever/closer for most of the season but converted him back to a starter in September. 3.34 ERA with 75 Ks in 59.2 IP overall; 1.47 ERA as a reliever, 4.70 as a starter (he’s only had four starts though). In his first start, he no-hit the Yanks for 7 2/3 innings. Plus he’s a local kid from Santa Rosa.

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by Natto on Sep 29, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up 0 recs

so you'd rather have Morrow than Sanchez, basically?

Assuming Beltre = Bowker + Velez

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 29, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

Pretty much.

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by Natto on Sep 29, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

interesting

For Sanchez, are you more concerned about injuries or ability to pitch a standard amount of starter innings for a whole season?

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 29, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up 0 recs

I just feel like Morrow will be the better pitcher, but Sanchez’s durability does concern me.

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by Natto on Sep 29, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

Morrow > Sanchez

by KingofDucks1987 on Sep 29, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

Velez = 0.
Beltre > Bowker.
Beltre > Bowker + Velez.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Sep 29, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

I haven't given up on Velez

Maybe it’s irrational but those infield singles excite me. Plus he’s clutch!

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 29, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up 0 recs

So wait...

The Mariners passed on the local kid and took the Californian, and the Giants watched the M’s take their local kid, and took the Washington guy. Geography is fun.

by woomikee on Sep 30, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

and he went to cal

meaning that my girlfriend who went to cal and is a mariners fan because she grew up in washington is completely obsessed with him. Also, he is, apparently, dreamy.

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Oct 1, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up 0 recs

Dreamier than Omar? I think not!

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by Natto on Oct 1, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up 0 recs

I don’t know if I’d want to continue dating someone who was completely obsessed with another person.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 1, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up 0 recs

Not Lincecum

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Sep 29, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

Why would the M’s do this?

I can’t think of logical reason they would either.They don’t gain in the O.F., first or starting rotation that much. And then they have to think Tuiasosopo is near ready.

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by daveinexile on Sep 29, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up 0 recs

They wouldnt

Its a stupid fan comment on Baggs blog.

by Hobbes2d on Sep 29, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up 0 recs

thank you for saveing me from the ’Chasm.

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by daveinexile on Sep 29, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

I would trade all those guys

for Morrow straight up.. adding Beltre just makes it an easy decision. No way M’s do this though

proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..

by Azmanz on Sep 29, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up 0 recs

Morrow

I played baseball in high school against him and he threw really really hard

by lincysgiants on Oct 2, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up 0 recs

Pablo penciled in at first?

Not sure what I make of that. Part of me say why not lets him get time between c, 1st & 3rd . If he logs 150-200 innings and over 125 P.A.’s at 3rd that all gives him more time and gives the other first basemen that much more of a chance to maybe prove useful. The other part of me thinks, " How Sabean. Now he can lure Blalock or Crede and block any chance of adding value to Travis Ish and company."

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by daveinexile on Sep 29, 2008 2:42 PM PDT 0 recs

I hope Sabean’s “zero chance” quote was taken out of context and that it was preceeded by glowing praise of Vizquel for his four years here and followed by “we wish Omar nothing but the best.”

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by Kitspool on Sep 29, 2008 2:47 PM PDT 0 recs

His clock ran down

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Sep 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up 0 recs

This is just karmic payback for Omar being out of position a few years back.

your 2008 SF Giants: this isn’t totally insane, just really stupid

by Lyle on Sep 30, 2008 6:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

What will it take for this Idjit to learn diplomacy with these older players?

How could Sabean support the toxic waste of Armando on his way out the trapdoor…

yet so crudely disrespect Barry (franchise maker), Omar (clubhouse maker) and Bengie (boiler maker)?

by Moggeee on Sep 29, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yea I hope so too..

I hope it just means Baggs was in too much of a rush to give us the information so he typed it in as few words as he could.

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by WalrusMan on Sep 29, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up 0 recs

He can’t afford to get scooped by the JUDY STEFFESESESES of the world.

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by delorean on Sep 29, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up 0 recs

No More Omar, No More Boch

No more stupid pitching Coach

(School’s out for Summer)

by Moggeee on Sep 29, 2008 4:04 PM PDT 0 recs

Baseball's out for-ever :(

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 29, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

Sabean's been blown to pieces?

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up 0 recs

Joy to the world
Sa-be-an’s dead
They barbequed his head!
What happened to his body
They flushed it down the potty
And round and round it goes
And round and round it goes
And rou-oooouuund and rouuuund and roound it goes

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by Natto on Sep 29, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

Hey Delorean

This is what I was taking about in my post in Grant’s latest main page. The blind hatred without any understanding that keeping Sabean has worked out pretty well in this year’s rebuilding effort is very much alive and well.

by giantsrainman on Sep 29, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

I’m just laughing at the funny song.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 29, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up 0 recs

Pssst

I don’t hate Sabean. I was going along with the schoolyard songs joke.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
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by Natto on Sep 29, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

yeah seriously.

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 29, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up 0 recs

oh rainman. never change.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Sep 29, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up 0 recs

Sandoval at 1st? Bleh.

by rotorueter on Sep 29, 2008 5:24 PM PDT 0 recs

Not too excited about having a 5’11" overweight firstbaseman.

your 2008 SF Giants: this isn’t totally insane, just really stupid

by Lyle on Sep 30, 2008 6:15 AM PDT up 0 recs

seems to work for the Brewers.

by tyrannoman on Oct 1, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up 0 recs

Hearing that our bold, fearless leader called Cain “untouchable” does make me feel pretty good about the offseason to start. Hearing people bring up Crede does not produce the same feelings.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Sep 29, 2008 5:48 PM PDT 0 recs

I am glad Sabes put the “untouchable” label on Cain right away. Hopefully, other teams will now come forward with trade proposals that don’t start with “Cain & Lincecum for Carlos Delgado” or some such claptrap.

by tyrannoman on Oct 1, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

seconded!

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by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up 0 recs

Sabean talks the same shit every year. Every offseason and every trade deadline he talks about the big players he’ll be able to get cheaply because they’re arb eligible, and he somehow manages to never bring in anyone who fits that description. More and more teams are locking up their arb eligible players, and if he couldn’t do that before, he won’t be able to do it now. Sure, Brian, there’s plenty of arb eligible superstars out there that other teams will hand over for a package of less than Matt Cain.

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by rxmeister on Sep 29, 2008 7:54 PM PDT 0 recs

When Has Sabean Said He Was Targeting Arbitration Eligable Players Before?

I only recall last year (the proposed Lincecum for Rios trade which Sabean (not Toronto) backed out of). This year Florida has 15 arbitration eligable players alone. There are plenty more on the other 28 rosters. I don’t see why we can’t go after some of the good bats amongst these without having to include either Lincecum or Cain.

by giantsrainman on Sep 29, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up 0 recs

I can agree with most of that. But not the Marlins. They really seem to only do the lopsided trade. He Who Create large tire Fires for Messenger might be the only exception I can think of recently.

Besides that I am tired of the MLB supplementing a Loria and his jumped of AAA club business model. That’s different rant though.

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by daveinexile on Sep 30, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up 0 recs

+1 for your different rant. Owners who pocket thier share of the revenue sharing without putting any of it back into the club and then cry poor should be forced to give sponge baths to Benjie and Pablo every day for a year.

by tyrannoman on Oct 1, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up 0 recs

You much nicer then I.

After say 5-8 years of such actions I would like to see their share of ownership swapped to the AAA franchise with the best attendance, and orderly books, and that owner gets the same MLB shares. That will hit them were they live. Thus it will never happen .

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by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up 0 recs

Schierholtz

Personally, I don’t think I know enough about him…I certainly couldn’t tell you where he would hit in the order…But I’m not sure about him because of the smaller sample size, as opposed to a Sandoval, who is a no-brainer. He’s going to have to have a good spring training…

Wow. So 145 AB is enough of a sample size for you Sabean, but 5 years of great minor league numbers (plus pretty good numbers for Dodd) isn’t?

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by WalrusMan on Sep 29, 2008 7:58 PM PDT 0 recs

I Aam Hearing You Here

Career wise Schierholtz actually has more MLB ABs then Sandoval. I am thinking Sabean is really saying that hs scouting eye is not sold on Schierholtz while it is soldpm Sandoval. He is just using 2008 MLB sample size as an excuse to avoid having to discuss his specific concerns about holes he sees in Schierholtz’s swing.

by giantsrainman on Sep 29, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up 0 recs

Is the scouting eye anything like the eye of the Jew?

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by xanthan on Sep 29, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

sabean has no scouting eye

but i hope he does trade nate

let nate play for a team that knows how to work with him…not against him

cant wait to watch winn in right all next season…how exciting that will be

by bacci40 on Sep 29, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

I’m with you, bacci. Nate deserves to go someplace where he’s appreciated.

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by Lyle on Sep 30, 2008 6:17 AM PDT up 0 recs

We should send him to an old farm out in the country, where he can run around all day and play RF.

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by xanthan on Sep 30, 2008 6:27 AM PDT up 0 recs

Wait

Nate’s going to die?!

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 30, 2008 7:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

SPOILER

We’re all going to die

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by delorean on Sep 30, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up 0 recs

You skipped to the end and ruined it for all of us

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 30, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up 0 recs