Pablo Sandoval Shut Down!
by HarbirD on Sep 20, 2008 7:27 PM PDT
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I have a feeling that the Giants have actually put on their thinking caps and shut down Pablo Sandoval to protect the almighty rookie status so he can get Rookie Of the Year next year. The guy must also be exhausted, he's destroyed three levels of competition: HighA, San Jose then Double A, Connecticut Defenders, and then the MLB with our beloved SF Giants. Pablo has had 128 Plate apperances at this level and to qualify for Rookie status, you need to have less than 130. Personally i think this is a great idea in many respects.
Another thing I wanted to talk about was how Pablo managed to do what he did? What is it about his swing and approach that makes him so good? How does he strike out so little? How can he hit just about anything six inches away fromm the zone? What adjustments did he make from last year?
Here's my guess: Bat speed, batting eye, level swing thorugh the zone, staying back on breaking pitches (which is probably the pitch he like to hit most), and simply the sheer power of his stroke.
What do you guys think?
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thats really stupid
but then again the giants do love awards
waiting for 2011....
by Osama91w9 on Sep 20, 2008 7:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is he shut down?
I know he’s out with a quad strain but Kruk and Kuip said he’ll get more ABs this year. I don’t know what Amy G. said in her litle cut away (which I think was about him) but I would tend to agree with Kruk and Kuip.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 20, 2008 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t we establish in a gameday thread conversation that ABs in September don’t count against rookie status?
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by jcb9 on Sep 20, 2008 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Care of MLB.com
Determining rookie status:
A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).
So, unless I’m reading it wrong, September service time doesn’t count against the 45 day limit, but the at bats in September do count.
Also, I’m wondering if the 130 “at bat” limit is a really a 130 “plate appearance” limit. It’s a pretty common mistake, and plate appearances make alot more sense in the official context of determining award eligibility. If so, Pablo has already exhausted his rookie status (he has 137 PA’s).
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by Bhaakon on Sep 20, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that Pablo is just hurt and not being shut down for the year. The idea of shutting a player down for the sake of ROY eligibility is absurd. Pablito has obviously figured something out this year and more ML ABs can only help, not hurt. If you shut Pablo down so he can participate in winter league ball completely healthy, then I am all for it. I believe you are right and Pablo is no longer ROY eligible, which means that Pablo is likely out until he is healthy.
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 20, 2008 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a sore quad and is available for pinch-hitting, I think.
by Dan from NM on Sep 20, 2008 10:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"...level swing thorugh the zone,..."
lol
How do you swing level when you’re swinging at something around your chin? Your shoetops?
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 20, 2008 11:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
After seeing him pull up lame on his pinch hit double tonight, maybe shutting him down isn’t such a bad idea
by m34josh on Sep 20, 2008 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Giants happen to have shut Sandoval down to keep him eligible for ROY status, I would suggest that they are putting way too much stock in individual awards these days. Between that and the overworking of Lincecum for a Cy Young award, I think they are taking it too far. I like individual awards, but only if they are the result of reasonable usage of someone. I do not agree with unwise usage of players for the sole purpose of getting them an award. I get joy from winning games, not hearing that a player won an award a few weeks after the regular season has ended.
by sunnyd100 on Sep 21, 2008 12:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s like they figure that in the absence of a winning squad, individual awards = ticket sales.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
putting way too much stock in individual awards
Brilliant deduction from just two data points, and on that basis predictably wrong.
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by S.F. Giangst on Sep 22, 2008 3:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Rowand released!
Hey guys, you think we should release Aaron Rowand?
by boonitez on Sep 21, 2008 12:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Move him to the bullpen
Maybe he’ll get pissed off and go to the Dominican Republic, w/o pay of course.
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by Bhaakon on Sep 21, 2008 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But when we’re holding him by his ankles above the shark tank he doesn’t need to know we won’t.
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2008 2:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regrease Rowand? Why?
No I don’t want to know who or how some one applied grease to him in the first place. Lets just walk way form this very slowly and quietly please.
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by daveinexile on Sep 21, 2008 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:Wewease...Wowand."
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
then
fwow him to the gwound wuffly
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Pablo Sandoval am the destroyer of worlds…and thus, should be playing
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by BrianBokake on Sep 21, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he ain't shut down...
the whole point after u are eliminated from a playoff race is to get more ab’s for your young guys or more innings for your pitchers and develop them, not to shut them down in order to get awards…
by MeTaLLiCs0naTaS on Sep 21, 2008 9:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
according to the Giants’ he’ll be back in the lineup tomorrow. So much for that theory.
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by rxmeister on Sep 22, 2008 6:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that's just one data point
it proves nothing
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by delorean on Sep 22, 2008 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s true. As soon as I posted “according to the Giants’” the wise move would be to not believe what follows.
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by rxmeister on Sep 22, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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