Adam (Sacramento CA): Bottom line is, the Giants are a different team when Lincecum is on the hill....

Adam (Sacramento CA): Bottom line is, the Giants are a different team when Lincecum is on the hill. He is 13-2 with a 2.62 ERA in 22 starts following team losses this season. That's what a Cy Young pitcher does for his club. Lincecum has inspired a whole group of mediocre hitters/defenders to play at a whole different level.

SportsNation Jayson Stark: Hey, I thought we weren't going to use W-L records in this debate. You almost sucked me in there, Adam. Well, consider this W-L stat. The Giants are 19-8 when Lincecum pitches, 40-70 when anybody else pitches. That means they play like a 114-win team when Lincecum is out there, and like a 59-win team when anybody else pitches (including Matt Cain). I think we just proved your point.

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Adam is a dipshit.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Sep 2, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions

Your post is inspiring ….

FOR ME TO POOP ON

Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Sep 2, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Jayson Stark.

Disappointing and disheartening chat today. he seemed to just give up on trying to completely eradicate wins from the discussion and caved at the end.

booo

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 2, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions

Seriously

Some retard tried to tell Stark that sabermetric people undervalue wins. He states some kind of crap along the lines of “If your team doesn’t produce runs for you, a great pitcher will pick them up”. You don’t understand…Tim is like 90 lbs! He can’t pick anyone up! Does this mean he’ll never be a Cy Young winner!?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Sep 2, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions