Gimme Twelve Steps
It starts casually. Maybe you’re at a party, and someone offers you a right-handed hitter to put in the lineup against a left-handed pitcher. It makes some sense, and, hell, everyone else is doing it. Why not? So you do it, and there’s a rush when that right-handed hitter gets a hit. Exhilarating. Unreal.
You start to pull left-handed hitters in the late innings if they’re facing lefty relievers. It’s still cool – you know tons of managers who aren’t affected at all by recreational platooning. Like, Joe Torre used to switch lefties out in the late innings all the time, and he won all those championships. He was able to maintain, and he could still platoon.
Suddenly you’re pulling a left-handed youngster out in the fourth inning because a left-handed pitcher comes in with the bases loaded and no outs. That’s a little extreme, sure, but you still know you don’t have a problem. Seriously, you know you don’t. You’re not like those freaks who pull right-handed hitters against right-handed pitchers. I mean, my god, those people have a problem. I mean, some people can smoke heroin and be just fine, but when you start injecting it, that’s when the line is crossed. Same thing. When you start messing around with right-handed platoon players – say, like, sitting a cagy veteran like Rich Aurilia because a right-hander is on the mound – now that’s when you’ve gone too far.
You’ve crossed over from recreational platooning, for sure, but you’re confident you can still "maintain" with daily platoon match-up use. Friends and family are starting to worry. They can see the warning signs. They point out that certain left-handed hitters can actually hold their own against left-handed pitching. You brush them off. C’mon. Platooning helps you deal with real-life lineup problems. It isn’t just a bunch of passive wishing. You need to platoon. Just because Nate Schierholtz was able to hit lefties in the minors doesn’t mean he could do it in the majors.
Then it happens. A left-handed pitcher – one of the all-time greats, age be damned – is on the mound. You feel the itch. But you don’t have a right-handed outfielder to fill in! What are you going to do? John Bowker is left-handed (…you start to breath a little heavier…) and Nate Schierholtz is left-handed, and he’s even a little banged up (…palms sweaty….) Dave Roberts is a veteran, but, oh god, he’s left-handed too (…mouth dry, eyes darting wildly….)
So you put an infielder in the outfield to make sure that Ivan Ochoa gets at-bats instead of a left-handed outfielder. The non-outfielder misjudges a ball in the outfield, and this leads to a loss. It isn’t just any loss, though, as it’s only the fourth loss of the season for your Cy Young candidate. All to make sure Ivan Ochoa would get at-bats instead of Dave Roberts or John Bowker.
Ivan Ochoa. Ivan Ochoa. Ivan Ochoa. The name rings over and over in your mind as you slink down in the parking lot, leaning up against a dumpster, with your eyelids heavy, you don’t remember sitting down, but here you are, and oh god, you’re melting into the pavement, so tired, a warm and slow trickle of blood moves across your upper lip, oh god, your heartbeat rattles inside your ribs, pounding but growing fainter. Fainter. Fainter.
Rock bottom. But you survived, Bruce, and that’s why we’re here. We know you can kick this. We know, that if you stand here and look us all in the eyes, and see how much we care about this franchise, you won’t be able to hide from the truth. You have a problem with platoon match-ups, Bruce Bochy. It’s easier to make blanket generalizations about lineups, we know. But sometimes, putting a left-handed hitter against a left-handed pitcher isn’t the end of the world.
You can do this, Bruce.
Kick the habit, Bruce. Make a new life for yourself.
We love this franchise. We love rooting for this team. We want something to root for. Help us find that something.
You moron.
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I am trying to BUZZ UP this post as hard as I can, but I can’t find the BUZZ UP button anymore.
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by delorean on
Sep 19, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
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I would buzz this one up eleventy billion times.
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on
Sep 19, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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I think it’s time to admit that you have a problem.,,
by Natto on
Sep 19, 2008 11:27 AM PDT
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i can quit buzzin' up anytime
i just do it for the lulz
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by delorean on
Sep 19, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
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Sure, it starts out as social buzzin’ up, but a little more buzzin’ up here and a there and you’re suddenly naked in the middle of a 7-11 parking lot, desperately hitting refresh on your iPhone.
by Natto on
Sep 19, 2008 11:30 AM PDT
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is that bad? :looks around:
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by delorean on
Sep 19, 2008 11:31 AM PDT
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Even moderation in moderation.
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by daveinexile on
Sep 19, 2008 2:38 PM PDT
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Wrong.
Moderation is not done in moderation. One more quip like that and you’ll become my banning fix for the next hour.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!
by WalrusMan on
Sep 19, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
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But “all” includes everything. oderation is a thing so…
/ heads to the sin bin.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on
Sep 20, 2008 7:19 AM PDT
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just buzzed this
it was my first time [blushes].
by BigO on
Sep 19, 2008 2:20 PM PDT
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Grant has a beautiful way
of expressing the concern of the common Giants fan
by NeifiChicken on
Sep 19, 2008 11:35 AM PDT
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You’re referring to “You moron” , right?
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on
Sep 19, 2008 2:10 PM PDT
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I’m pretty tired of Bruce Bochy now. Last year I was a Bochy defender, but it’s been a while since he’s done something really favorable. Too bad we’re stuck with him for at least another year.
by Natto on
Sep 19, 2008 11:42 AM PDT
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bochy ball FTL
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on
Sep 19, 2008 1:35 PM PDT
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I echo all of these sentiments.
Travis Denker can hit a little. That's why I drive his bus.
by oldjacket on
Sep 19, 2008 2:38 PM PDT
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If the entire McCoven community were to circle around Bochy and take turns kicking him in the head, would that count as an intervention?
by Lars The Wanderer on
Sep 19, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
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Have you ever kicked a boulder? Would hurt.
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
by SF Pete on
Sep 19, 2008 12:30 PM PDT
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His head is probably a soft, smushy boulder though.
by Natto on
Sep 19, 2008 12:53 PM PDT
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It would be meaningless to aim for his head, since his thick, gigantic skull pads what little there is in it.
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on
Sep 19, 2008 11:59 AM PDT
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I kind of had one foot on the Bruce Bochy hate train, but after last night I purchased a first class ticket. They put out one of the worst lineups we’ve seen all season, and then they go and announce they’re giving Timmy an extra start to bolster his Cy Young chances… JFC.
And why the hell didn’t they pinch hit for Omar in the 9th?? We had our entire bench available and he hit one of his weak groundouts to second on the first pitch.
Whatever. I guess they can say Timmy only having to go eight innings instead of nine to get a complete game can be considered preserving his arm…
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Kevin Correia: the next Brad Hennessey
by stealth snail on
Sep 19, 2008 12:02 PM PDT
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I was willing to give Bochy a chance when he was hired, and I was mostly indifferent to him last year. But I don’t know how anyone can defend him this year. He’s done a thoroughly horrible job.
Unfortunately, the Giants don’t fire managers who’re under contract, so it’ll be another season of this nonsense.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on
Sep 19, 2008 12:04 PM PDT
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What would have happened...
if a) the Douchebags hadn’t scored in the 8th or b) they had scored but the Giants had somehow tied it in the 9th?
Would Bochy have sent Timmy out there for another 20 pitches in the bottom of the 9th, just because he still had a chance to get the win? I think it’s 50/50 the answer is “yes”, and that’s far scarier than the unintentional comedy of starting Velez in left.
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by Kitspool on
Sep 19, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
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The odds were more than 50/50. There’s no doubt he would’ve sent him out there again.
Problem is that if we can’t get rid of Sabean after all of his funcking up this franchise, what chance do we have of getting Boulderskull out of here? It’s just a bad situation getting worse.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on
Sep 19, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
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Hey lets watch the Boulder Monkey keep pressing this button named "Tim" and putting his hands at the shute. Its almost like watching a Pavlov experiment being run.
Promote Bochy to player "development" some were and bring some one that does not just do the trained monkey bit all the freaking time.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on
Sep 19, 2008 1:32 PM PDT
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If I couldashouldawoulda
It’s done.
But IF WE’D SCORED AFTER LOADING THE BASES IN THE FIRST…
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on
Sep 19, 2008 2:13 PM PDT
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Yeah, really
That game was full of FAIL from the outset.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 19, 2008 2:21 PM PDT
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but the button worked before. It will again. I have not pressed it often enough yet.
/ pokes, pokes, pokes!
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by daveinexile on
Sep 19, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
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Grant...
This is one of your best posts ever. Not only is your analysis of the problem spot on, but the way you wrote it was elegant, witty, and dare I say brilliant. I would love to see this in the Chronicle, or on Brian Sabean’s desk.
Very well done.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on
Sep 19, 2008 12:36 PM PDT
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I agree, and I’m surprised that no one else has said as much yet.
by Not Grant Pretending To Be Someone Else on
Sep 19, 2008 3:00 PM PDT
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this really need an evil Spock facil hair.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on
Sep 19, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
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word

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on
Sep 19, 2008 3:34 PM PDT
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sweet!
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on
Sep 19, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
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Now..
Someone deface a $5 as Velez.
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How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!
by WalrusMan on
Sep 19, 2008 4:22 PM PDT
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Winner
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
2008 Season in Summary: We haven't had a twenty-first baseman all year. How did that happen? Silly. It's almos.
by Zetsuboushita on
Sep 19, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
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But shouldn’t it be an 8 dollar bill? It will be a bit before the uni # 5 does not automatically mean Durham to me. Sorry T.I.
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by daveinexile on
Sep 20, 2008 7:22 AM PDT
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No...
Remember who’s on the five dollar bill.
by Natto on
Sep 21, 2008 9:07 PM PDT
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the Evil Spock.. Of coarse!
/ points above.
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by daveinexile on
Sep 22, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
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Me too.
You ain’t quite right, Grant. I hope you know that.
But that also makes you the best at what you do.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
by achiappanza on
Sep 19, 2008 3:09 PM PDT
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Who do you think needs to go more? Bochy or Sabean?
for me Sabean>>>>>Bochy.
Meaning I’d rather have Sabes around than Boch
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by stealth snail on
Sep 19, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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Getting rid of Sabean would likely lead to getting rid of Bochy as well, so I vote Sabean.
by rotorueter on
Sep 19, 2008 1:07 PM PDT
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what's especially sad is this
Velez can’t hight lefties
Since 2005 he’s hit for 300 fewer OPS points against LHP.
I don’t care if he dinks a single or two against them now and then. It isn’t as if he is such a good hitter he can stand to give up 300 on his OPS. He should never, ever start against LHP.
Ugh, Bochy.
by wcw on
Sep 19, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
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Yeah, this is the worst part.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 19, 2008 1:20 PM PDT
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But he’s right handed, he must be able to hit lefties!!!
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on
Sep 19, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
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I don’t know how the Giants can even trust Bochy with all the kids they’ll be bringing up in the next couple of years. If you’re a hitter, he’ll bench you and destroy your confidence. If you’re a pitcher, he’ll take dangerous risks with your arm. This guy is poison for a rebuilding franchise, and I wouldn’t even wait until the end of the season, because he has two more chances to send Tim Lincecum out there to throw 150 pitches.
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Sep 19, 2008 12:55 PM PDT
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Ugh… a note to Giants management :
Yes as a fan I was hoping we’d get to see Lincecum pitch in the season finale; however I was hoping we’d be seeing that because he had SKIPPED A START you morons.
You management types just don’t get the SF fan base do you?
Lunatic Fringe ftw
by Merope on
Sep 19, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
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Yeah
Bochy over Manny Acta was a horrible decision last year, but typical Giants – when given the mediocrity over young/risky talent, always pick the former. Sabean’s idiocy this year was highlighted by the Aaron Rowand contract (and the brilliant backup SS plan, and the moving players from LOW A to AAA to AA idiocy), but I worry he’s going to do something stupid again. In an ideal world, we’d clean house, hire a Chris Antonetti, Jed Hoyer, or Paul DePodesta type.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on
Sep 19, 2008 1:40 PM PDT
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I love this site
Grant, that was friggen brilliant stuff right there.
by bondslegend on
Sep 19, 2008 1:52 PM PDT
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WOW
Great read, very funny yet depressing at the same time.
Playoffs!!??
by PAWarrior on
Sep 19, 2008 2:28 PM PDT
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Excellent Read. Very Entertaining.
But in my judgement the mistake was not Velez in left (he has been hot lately offensively from both sides of the plate). The mistake was Ochoa at 2B who has been a cold as ice of late. It should have been Aurilia at 2B with McClain at 3B to maximize the offense against the Big Unit.
The complaint about Velez’s outfield defense is just pure hindsight. It was just bad luck that he had to try and handle a linedrive hit right at him. This is the hardest to read and therefore the one play an inexperienced and weak outfielder is most likely to have the most trouble with.
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Sep 19, 2008 3:09 PM PDT
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I Agree
Velez has gold glove potential in outfield and would be even better in center field. He is fast and center fielders are supposed to be fast, so he will definitely be good.. Only Groupthink can explain this irrational whining about Velez’s defense.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
by Outside The Box Thinking on
Sep 19, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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eh
I love Velez, But I kinda think playing him the OF was a poor choice.
And his vs. LHP split is bad.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 19, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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the trouble is
playing him in the infield is also a poor choice, at this point. I don’t like seeing him out there starting at all, to be honest, but the dude needs to play to see if he’s worth keeping. (though perhaps not in the only game that "matters").
by BigO on
Sep 19, 2008 3:32 PM PDT
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I think that is a overreaction
His infield defense is below average – not horrific. Also, infield foibles typically don’t turn into multi-run XBH. I can handle a booted ball now and then compared to Nochoa’s anemic bat. Has Velez made any infield defensive mistakes as of late? Frankly It seems to me he looks a little better out there, making a few smart plays in the last few games (electing not to throw to first on an attempted DP, making a very nice pick and tag on an errant throw from Molina, etc).
He has also been the hottest hitter in a Giants uniform not named Sandoval over the last 2 months, so getting his bat in the lineup (platoon splits aside) is a fundamentally sound plan.
Just probably not in left field. I’d rather have him try 3rd base.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 19, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
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He's hitting better than DR Winn?
I agree with you about his infield D looking better, but him in left was a nightmare JUST AS I PREDICTED
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by delorean on
Sep 19, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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Yeah, I have no doubts about his nightmarish outfield defense.
Since August 1st, Velez OPS .837
Winn: .954
okay I guess Winn’s been better.
But he’s like, so old and boring and consistent and stuff.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 19, 2008 3:55 PM PDT
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i dunno
I don’t get to see many games on TV, but I still feel like he’s bobbled virtually every bay that’s come his way at 2nd lately. Maybe this hasn’t led to errors, but you can’t tell me that this is what you want at a middle infield position. I, for one, think that it actually constitutes a greater risk than having him in the outfield (but this could just be a result of my overwrought self-importance as an infielder when I play recreationally). His range is actually quite good, but the hands and the rest of the body still seem to be fighting each other. I’d be willing to bet that there is a better chance that he pulls it together as an outfielder before he does on the infield. 3rd base is kind of interesting as a theoretical proposition – I know, he has actually played there some – but I don’t believe the bat plays there in the long run. Plus, I still think he’d hurt you defensively.
by BigO on
Sep 19, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
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I don't think Velez's bat makes it as a regular at any positong over the long haul
Unless he magically transforms into a gold glove short stop. (yeah, right -)
But his value as a switch hitting bench player is much higher if he can play 2b, 3b, and corner outfield with some level of competence.
I think he’s looked solid @ 2nd lately, but maybe I just haven’t caught the games where he has struggled. I certainly haven’t watched them all lately.
IMO, outfield is in many ways more difficult – see last night as an example. Infield requires less thinking, more reaction. In the outfield, one has plenty of time to watch the ball coming and try and decide where it is going to go. It’s as important to correctly guess where it’s going as it is to have quick reactions and good hands.
Velez has the reactions, and can learn the hands. He may never learn to read the ball.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 19, 2008 3:59 PM PDT
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yeah
I guess what we’re talking about is hiding the glove so that you have the super-utility off the bench offensively. Let’s hope something works.
I think I’ve been thinking about Velez as a physical specimen long enough now, since I’ve started imagining Velez dunking over the Big, Ugly, Unit.
by BigO on
Sep 19, 2008 4:11 PM PDT
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uh
when’s the last time Aurilia even took a ground ball in the middle infiield?
by BigO on
Sep 19, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
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Nah..
Honestly, I’d rather see velez get ABs at 2B but in the OF no.
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How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!
by WalrusMan on
Sep 19, 2008 4:23 PM PDT
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Check out the gameday threads. There were a few people, notably Delorean, who can be quoted as knowing that Velez in LF was a dumb idea.
by rotorueter on
Sep 19, 2008 5:37 PM PDT
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Also
Skynyrd.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on
Sep 19, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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That was my original thought
12 steps t’word the door tho, that’s a long way to go
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 19, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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It's the hobbit version.
Although when they chant “Free Bird” it’s because they want the turkey…
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
by zenbitz on
Sep 19, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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If I leave here tomorrow ….
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by daveinexile on
Sep 19, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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I think everyone’s here for the free chicken.
by Natto on
Sep 19, 2008 4:12 PM PDT
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Yeah, it’s been a while since Butt Pee has made an appearance.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
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Mmmmm chicken..
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How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!
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WAAAAAY OT
But there was just a ROWDY chant of “USA USA USA!” at the Ryder cup. This is just a few minutes after a fan laughed audibly over the air at one of the players for going into the rough.
Now don’t get me wrong… seeing four guys all put the ball within 2 yards of the hole is pretty ridiculous. But that’s first time I’ve ever seen golf get rowdy,
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
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Sep 19, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
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haha
Great, pretty soon someone is going to pull a sharpie out of his sock and sign the ball on the green after an eagle.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 19, 2008 4:14 PM PDT
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What about Rowand?
Why all the hate for Velez. There were two guys on base because Rowand misplayed a ball to lead off the inning. He’s the one who is supposed to be the gold glover. I, for one, wish to place the blame squarely on his veteran savy shoulders where it belongs.
by Shoeless on
Sep 19, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
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But Rowand gets angry and talks baseball late into the night.
If something goes wrong, it can’t be his fault.
by DesertFox on
Sep 19, 2008 4:41 PM PDT
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Velez's error was more egregious
and more costly
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Sep 19, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
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Velez is the easy target.
Never mind that was the kind of game to try hair brained experiments with. And well Errant Thrown’ Rowand has kind of become a fixture for that kind of play this season. Its like Walker starting fires in the 8th. You expect it and almost don’t notice it. And you are happier for being able to ignore it.
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