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Alderson and Bumgarner in AA next spring

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I just read this on Extra Baggs Blog this morning that Alderson and Bumgarner are poised to be together in the AA affliliate wherever that is next spring via Dick Tidrow. This news excites me for an awesome 1,2 punch that is bound to be filled with strikeouts galore. I feel confident with the jump for TimA, but this is a big jump for MadBum and will be excited to see how he handles it.

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Any thoughts on this developmental path? Do you think they will be throwing to Buster Posey behind the dish?

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Freakin' awesome

for them. Sad for me that I won’t get to see the MadBum in San Jo. :(

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by delorean on Sep 16, 2008 9:08 AM PDT   0 recs

Same. Plus I never saw Tim A pitch and I’ll likely have to wait until 2010 when he makes it to Fresno, unless he just oliberates the competition next season and the org has no choice but to move him up. Come to think of it, I like this scenario.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 16, 2008 10:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ditto

I’m moving back to Menlo Park next year and was really looking forward to bringing the wife and two girls to see some honest to god uber prospects.

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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Sep 16, 2008 4:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You’ll have to change your name!

by rotorueter on Sep 16, 2008 5:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

AA Rotation will but A+ this year + MadBum?

1) Alderson
2) Bumgarner
3) English
4) Pucetas
5) Snyder

Question is, what will happen to all of the pitchers in AA this year..

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by lmaozedong on Sep 16, 2008 9:17 AM PDT   0 recs

Accidental DFA

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by delorean on Sep 16, 2008 9:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You’ve also got Sosa, Tanner & Maday who should be there as well! It’s going to be interesting as we have way too many starting pitchers for the spots available next year! The same can be said for both A+ and A as well!

With regards to the starting pichers in AA this year, none of them should be in the AA rotation next year because there just isn’t that much quality in starting pitching at CT (Fresno). They should be promoted to Fresno (e.g. Joe Martinez) moved to the bullpen (e.g. Cowart), one of the two (e.g. McNiven & McKae) or released (e.g. Broshius)

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by GiantFan on Sep 16, 2008 9:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

excitement!

how many of them sniff the bigs next year?

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by jasomack on Sep 16, 2008 3:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why skip A+?

Granted, if one guy could, it might be Bumgarner, but when a guy still needs to work on his secondary pitches a lot, is it wise for him to just “skip” a level? I can see promoting him quickly to AA if he continued his dominance at A+, but I see no reason to skip A+ altogether.

Alderson clearly was due to start in AA

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by NeifiChicken on Sep 16, 2008 9:42 AM PDT   0 recs

+126 million

…wait, did I do that right?

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by Lyle on Sep 16, 2008 11:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Clayton Kershaw skipped High A too.

by Hobbes2d on Sep 16, 2008 11:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Clayton Kershaw

had three advanced pitches, not just one great one.
Bumgarner relies on his fastball too much.

I still cannot put them in the same league. Kershaw was just a better pitcher at the same time.

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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 16, 2008 11:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Three? Really? I’m not sure I would have called Kershaw’s changeup advanced, nor his command.

by Hobbes2d on Sep 16, 2008 2:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It

was advanced for AA. It probably wasn’t ML level, command wise. It was still a future plus. His command was worse, but pitchers can survive with mediocre command. They cannot survive with one pitch, no matter how good.

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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 16, 2008 3:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I was going to say this

But being a closer is a wee bit different than a starter.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 16, 2008 10:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, Barry Zito then. Haha. He was once good, with only 1 plus pitch. And not very good command.

by Hobbes2d on Sep 16, 2008 10:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

There was a time when he had fantastic command of the curve. And during that time, the mere fact of his curve turned an otherwise ordinary fastball into a plus pitch by relation.

Granted, it didn’t last.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Sep 16, 2008 10:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

well

to be fair. it was all about how he was locating those pitches on any given day. His change was always plus too and his slider wasn’t too bad. THere was an article on catfish stew a while back that posited that Zito’s success was based on what combination of pitches he was locating on any given day. It almost always had to be a combination of FB+(curve or change) for him to be effective. If he was locating his three best, he was absolutely untouchable. fb, curve he was great. fb, change he was good, curve, change mixed results. if it was only one pitch that he located, everything wen tot shit however.

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 16, 2008 11:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Frankly

That would describe this year as well.

When he is locating, he has pitched really really well.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 17, 2008 8:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rivera

has three variations on the same pitch and all have divergent break.

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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 16, 2008 11:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Based on the numbers Mad Bum put up in low A, I think it’s perfectly reasonable for him to skip a level. Dude didn’t just perform well, he absolutely fucking DOMINATED the level. I have NO problem with him moving to AA.

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by delorean on Sep 16, 2008 11:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, seriously..

He was by far the best pitcher in the league. I’m sure other pitchers are going to make the jump, so why not him?

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by Azmanz on Sep 16, 2008 12:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

if any pitcher can make the jump, why not Masdon Bamgurner?

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by jasomack on Sep 16, 2008 3:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mastodon Ballgamer

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by delorean on Sep 16, 2008 3:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I was going to jump in with one of my own, but I like delorean’s too much.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Sep 16, 2008 7:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Its been discussed before, but he has an awesome baseball name.

by Big Daddy J on Sep 17, 2008 12:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No way

It’s a terrible baseball name….almost as bad as Lyle Overbay.

He should be Spike Bumgarner, at the very least.

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by Lyle on Sep 17, 2008 3:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Perhaps?

Dont you think that maybe there is a chance that MadBum’s secondary pitches are more polished than we realize. I would think that perhaps the Giants arent afraid to make this move because they have confidence that he can succeed. Maybe they know something that we dont.

by Franchise55 on Sep 16, 2008 1:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

what's the upside to moving him up?

We get him to the bigs a few months faster? In 2010 we win 80 games instead of 78 (Okay, that’s a bit early to call)?

What do the Giants gain from him skipping a level? What’s the payoff?

The potential downside: he gets hit much harder than he’s used to and struggles. He loses the aggressiveness in the strikezone, walks more guys, has a “down” year and then the Giants in their infinite wisdom decide to tinker with him to “solve the problem”. Or they don’t tinker with him and just send him down to A+ which does wonders for his confidence.

Starting him at high A? Well, he’ll reach the bigs a bit slower, but there’s not as much risk. Let’s say he just continues what he was doing (we hope he does) in A+ for a month, we can always choose to call him up when it seems like he’s just as unhittable in A+ as in A-. We’re delayed 1 month in bringing him up the bigs down the line.

If he struggles in A+? Certainly not great for him, but you’d have to assume struggling in A+ would be much better than in AA

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by NeifiChicken on Sep 16, 2008 4:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think

That the advantage to moving up is potentially real.

He may learn more facing hitters that actually challenge him, and this may prevent him from forming bad habits. (relying on his velocity to get overwhelmed hitters out).

I mean, he could come and pitch to me and my friends and have all kinds of success, but I don’t think it’s going to help his development much.

If, in the coaching staff’s estimation, he is likely to dominate A+, then there is little point in him pitching there. Much better to put in him a position where he has to work, and learn, to get people out.

And I hardly think a guy who just mowed through the SAL as if it were a rec league in his first year as a professional is going to be short on confidence.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 16, 2008 5:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

certainly

but why leave it to the coaches? Why not let him dominate A+ for a month and then call him up? Is that really going to hurt?

My point is simply that there is a bit of undeniable risk in promoting him straight to AA. Can he succeed? Absolutely, but it’s definitely going to be a challenge. With that given risk, what is the reward?

I suppose your argument about being challenged has some merit, but would it be much different if we started him in A+ and then promoted him?

I’m sure Bumgarner will be fine either way, but I’m just not a big fan of rushing guys when there’s no forseeable advantage, Maybe you are right about being challenged, but I also believe there will be a fair amount of challenge in A+. It’s definitely a significant jump, so I don’t really see harm in starting him there.

If he blows away A+ like he did A-, then call him up, what have we lost?

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by NeifiChicken on Sep 16, 2008 9:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly!

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by Lyle on Sep 17, 2008 3:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

First, I don’t believe he’ll be in too much over his head at AA. Hell, Greg Miller dominated AA as an 18 year old with just a great fastball and a big looping curve (the same combination Timmy used to dominate college and minor league hitters, but that great “domianting” curveball got slapped around a good bit once he hit the majors. The fact that he’s adjusted so quickly and so effectively without his old K pitch is a large part of the wow! factor with Timmy this year). A dominating fastball that you can locate is far and away the most important tool a pitcher at any level, including the majors.

Having said that, I do think that learning to deal with some failure while in the minors is a huge reward in and of itself. He’s going to have to learn to deal with getting hit hard and make the necessary adjustments anyway. Everybody does when they make the leap to the big leagues. Getting some of that lesson in at AA where the lights don’t glare so much is a good thing, not a bad thing. Personally, while his stats this season would look otherwordly if you could throw out his first three starts (when apparently he was asked to try a new motion), the fact that they exist and WERE his first three starts makes his ‘08 season even more impressive to me. I like seeing how he adjusted to adversity in such a dominating fashion — in April his season could have gone very bad (right after he got knocked out of that start in the 3rd inning), but it didn’t. That’s one of the most positive things he accomplished all year IMO.

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by Roger on Sep 17, 2008 9:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree that he could probably do well in AA, but it’s all about weighing the risks vs the reward. There is a quantifiable risk when having him a skip a level, where there is really no foreseeable reward in doing so.

If the biggest reward is that he will learn from failure or struggle, well, I’m not sure how much that matters. Plenty of good prospects never struggle in the minors (Harden, Lincecum, Peavy, Felix, + many others)

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by NeifiChicken on Sep 17, 2008 9:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But they did all struggle in the majors at some point, which I think, is a tough place to have your first experience with that. I guess I just tend to believe that struggle is actually a more valuable learning/development tool than success is (hey — by which logic Travis Ishikawa must be the most developed player we have!).

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Sep 17, 2008 11:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dynamic Duo!

Madbum and Robin?

Cool that they’ll be together; should give us a better idea of how they compare.

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by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 10:09 AM PDT   0 recs

good thing about Madbum skipping San Jose

lots of high desert places where breaking pitches are hard to throw. If he is ever gonna enjoy retiring people with a curve, it is the muggy eastcoast.
Oh, we don’t know where Norwich will be navigating, that is kind of a problem.
AND BROSHIUS has labored his way to Fresno. With Joe Martinez, Oseguera, Palmer, Pereira. Long shot, Threets starts there some more. I actually want Threets in the bigs this week to give an extra day off to the staff.

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by foothillsfan on Sep 16, 2008 11:24 AM PDT   0 recs

Do you think they will be throwing to Buster Posey behind the dish?

While throwing Posey straight into AA would be fairly aggressive, he was a polished college bat. The Rays did a similar thing with Longoria, except Longoria got way more pro ABs in his drafted season and mashed the whole way until struggling at AA for 100 ABs. Anyways, I’m sort of for it. This wishy-washy fence is surprisingly comfy.

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by marcello on Sep 16, 2008 12:30 PM PDT   0 recs

Catchers need more time in the minors than 3B. And Posey has only been catching for a couple of years.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Sep 16, 2008 12:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That’s what they say. I’m curious how much of that is just unquestioned conventional wisdom though.

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by marcello on Sep 16, 2008 12:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How dare you question unquestioned conventional wisdom? It’s unquestionable!

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by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 2:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think that if he goes to AA he will focus mainly on Catching, but if he gets stationed in San Jose he could work on both 3B and C. Thoughts is this Pablo and Posey C and 3B platoon even plausible?

by krukuipandclint on Sep 16, 2008 3:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m thinking a Pablo and Ishi platoon at 1B, a Pablo and Posey and Holm C platoon, a Rohlinger and Pablo and Posey and Frandsen 3B platoon, and a Frandsen and Rohlinger and Velez and Burriss and Ochoa and Denker 2B platoon, and Randy Winn starts 150 games in right.

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by jasomack on Sep 16, 2008 3:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And a platoon of Lowry and correia starting!

by Big Daddy J on Sep 17, 2008 12:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You forgot to add groug to the 3B platoon.

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by Lyle on Sep 17, 2008 5:13 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mad Bum Promotion

not sure it’s a good idea. Team officials (think it might have been Tidrow) said that they don’t like to promote guys until they’re sure that the guy is ready, because a demotion might be demoralizing for a kid already having a rough go of it in the higher league.

Should Mad Bum get to AA and struggle and have to be demoted, it won’t be good for him. I hear the team kept him Augusta this year so he could be closer to home. Obviously, he’s slightly older now and I’m not sure how much that is an issue, and obviously, the team knows more about it than I do, BUT if that’s true, promoting him too fast might be problematic.

Anyway, the conservative play here would be fore Mad Bum to start out in SJ and hopefully the team would have a better look at his secondary pitches. If he continues to dominate that offensive league, than I say promote the hell out of this kid until he shows he can’t get the job done.

A move to AA to start 2009 would also mean, depending on how he does, that he could be in the majors by the end of the season (if he dominates) and no later than 2010 (if he merely excels). There’s a lot of ifs there, but I’d prefer to keep him and TimA in the minors as long as I can until we can figure out if (a) we can get Lincecum signed long term, and (b) we can extend Cain’s contract past 2011. If we can get those two deals done, then there’s really no need to rush Mad Bum and TimA.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 16, 2008 12:36 PM PDT   0 recs

As delorean said above, I think when you dominate like madbum did, it’s ok to be a little more agressive with a pitcher. Based on his insane results, I’d be more inclined to think the bigger mistake was not having him higher up this season. Can you really learn much when you’re dominating that much?

I wouldn’t worry about him struggling; a little adversity might help him realize what he needs to focus on. The interview with his pitching coach a week ago portayed him as a hard worker and pretty mature.

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by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 2:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tidrow

has a great track record, and when the Giants have pushed pitchers it generally has worked out well. Foppert comes to mind. He just happened to get hurt in in the majors. He skipped A ball all together after dominating in Salem Kaizer.

Jerome Williams skipped full season low A, and went straight to SJ after pitching in Salem Kaizer at 17 years old the year he was drafted. And was in AA at age 19 the next year. Like Alderson.

Kevin Correia skipped A ball all together. He went from Salem Kaizer to AA. Granted he was a college arm, but he made the majors that same year. The first player of the 2002 draft class to make the ML’s.

Considering how well Bumgarner pitched, I don’t think it’s a mistake at all to see if he can handle being pushed. He was kept at Augusta all year. Now he can handle being pushed as he will be in his 2nd full-season.

by Hobbes2d on Sep 16, 2008 2:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Out of curiosty...

do we have any idea of the status of the AA team staying in Connecticut… and if they were to move where they might go?

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by stealth snail on Sep 16, 2008 2:33 PM PDT   0 recs

Status: unlikely

As to where they might end up, i haven’t heard anything.

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by delorean on Sep 16, 2008 2:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They are going to replace the Yankees AAA club in Oakland

by Big Daddy J on Sep 17, 2008 12:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

harsh but fair

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by delorean on Sep 17, 2008 8:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

we'll allow it

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by zenbitz on Sep 17, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My guess re: Double A location.....

Norwich in ’09 and then Richmond in ’10

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by greg8370 on Sep 17, 2008 10:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Their contract with the CT club is up now, though isn’t it? That would require them to sign a one-year extension with Norwich. Is that likely? Even if the Giants saw value in a one-year deal because it would potentially open the door to Richmond for them, what could The Defenders owners’ motivation for such a deal possibly be?

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by Roger on Sep 17, 2008 11:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They don't sign a one year deal....

they reup for two and it moves in ’10 to VA. VA builts a new park to replace the current one in the meantime.

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by greg8370 on Sep 17, 2008 11:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Greg, how much of a “guess” is this? Have you heard any whispers?

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by Lyle on Sep 18, 2008 8:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm reading in between the lines of the Richmond daily newspaper....

short answer….. it’s a guess

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by greg8370 on Sep 18, 2008 12:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I hope so, that would be awesome. Richmond is just a couple of hours away from me.

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by xanthan on Sep 18, 2008 1:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Double A team will be in either CT or Zebulo NC (Carolina MudCats)

next season as Double A as the Dodgers, Brewers and Marlins settled their PDCs today leaving the Giants, Reds and Yankees in Trenton unsigned. It’s believed the Yanks will reup with Trenton however.

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by greg8370 on Sep 18, 2008 3:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I suppose a lot will depend on how he performs in the minor league camp during spring training. If the baseball folks think he is ready for the jump to AA, then go for it. Otherwise, it would not hurt to see him start in San Jose and see how he does with a possible promotion during mid season. Tim A should move to AA along with Jesse, Kevin, and perhaps Henry. Move the AA guys to AAA and get rid of those AAA/AAAA pitchers. Also, stop signing the fringe major leaguers. We should have enough home grown talent to stock the AAA roster.

Buster should start in San Jose and work with Steve Decker with the possibilty of a mid season promotion to AA – just like Pablito.

by APGiantsFan on Sep 16, 2008 2:36 PM PDT   0 recs

Buster should start in San Jose and work with Steve Decker with the possibilty of a mid season promotion to AA – just like Pablito.

Which would mean he’d be a late season call-up and dominate and entertain like no one could have imagined!

“Buster Posey” is Spanish for Peter Criss!!!

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by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 2:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Buster Posey" is Spanish for Peter Criss!!!

lol.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 16, 2008 2:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And unfortunately

Kevin Pucetas is latin for Vinnie Vincent

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by delorean on Sep 16, 2008 2:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't get this consensus about Buster

that he somehow needs more finetuning as a catcher. Isn’t he supposedly to be a very polished and elite prospect? Last I checked yes. Granted catcher is a difficult position to learn, but Buster is ALREADY seen as a plus defender at the position. A natural if you will. I have no problem whether he starts at SJ or AA next year. I think he can handle either one. But I just don’t get the prevailing opinion that he somehow needs all of this work to improve his defensive capabilities. That’s supposed to be one of his strengths. I’m guessing he will be just fine. Just like how Matt Wieters has been just fine, and he actually had some concerns about his defense due to his height, and whether he would remain durable.

by Hobbes2d on Sep 16, 2008 3:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's not defense

It is game calling. Typically in college the game is called by the coaches.

That is a lot to learn.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 16, 2008 3:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think though,

since our best pitching prospects (and thus the pitchers that would be pitching to him when he’s in the bigs) are in AA he should be there too. If they develop some chemistry and Posey learns the strengths/weaknesses of Bumgarner and Alderson this early in their careers, it can only be a positive.

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by Azmanz on Sep 16, 2008 4:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This

Is a valid point

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 16, 2008 4:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Game calling

I wouldn’t think that would hold him back. I mean, if he’s as smart as everyone says, he had to be thinking about what was being called in and not just putting fingers down.

Isn’t there still game calling by some big-league managers? Didn’t Bochy call pitches for Sandoval during his first couple of starts? If the man has skills behind the plate and can hit, I think calling pitches isn’t a worry.

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by Goofus on Sep 17, 2008 5:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A catcher has to know how to handle his staff.

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Sep 17, 2008 6:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Which he can only learn by working with them. Posey to the majors!

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by marcello on Sep 17, 2008 9:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs