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Stretch Drive: Let's Finish Strong!

After winning 8 of their last 10, The Giants record is currently 68-81.  With 13 games left, they've already assured themselves of avoiding 100 losses. 

If they win just four more games, they'll beat last year's record of 71-91.  If they win five more games, they'll avoid 90 losses.  These seem well within reach.

Here's a more unbelievable goal that's within reach: If they go 9-4 in these final 13 games, they'll finish 77-85.  What's so special about that?  It would give them their best record since the 2004 season.  Some will argure that that's clearing a low bar and nothing to write home about, but after the dire off-season predictions, I'd consider it an accomplishment that would give the team something to build on in 2009.

In addition, going 9-4 or better could conceivebly put them in 2nd place with the way the D-Backs are playing.

So I say, "To hell with improving our draft pick.  Let's enjoy the final four series and root for the kids to finish strong!"  If they go 9-4, I know I'll be dancing!

 

 

 

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Are you with me?
Yes - that would be cool to have the best record since 2004
74 votes
No -it's a hollow accomplishment and I want a better draft pick
37 votes

111 votes | Poll has closed

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I’m almost literally on the fence.

This li’l run they’ve put together has been awesome to watch, but I don’t think it’s super-significant to post a better records than ‘04. As long as the kids keep playing, and the Giants go 6 and 0 vs. the Dodgers, I’ll be satisfied.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Sep 15, 2008 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As long as the kids keep playing, and the Giants go 6 and 0 vs. the Dodgers, I’ll be satisfied.

This would be awesome.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Sep 15, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m with you.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 15, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Sep 15, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes plz.

Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.

by Andy from DC on Sep 15, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THIS

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Sep 15, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t you hear what happened to the boy who sat on the picket fence? Wrecked ’em.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 15, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His facial expression was something like this..

Why..that almost deserves a caption contest!

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!

by WalrusMan on Sep 15, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly how I feel. I need a 3rd option in the poll; I’m feeling wishy-washy about the last two weeks.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Sep 15, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I purposely left such an option off the poll to screw with you wishy-washy namby-pambys.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 15, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure how I feel about that.

Like Barry Zito, I'm mildly half-OK.

by EliminateMe on Sep 15, 2008 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to avoid 90 losses

Just as a big middle finger to the prognosticators who were so convinced that the team would score less than 400 runs and end up losing 120 games.

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 15, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why settle for 9-4?

Let’s root for 13-0 and a division title! It’s still mathematically possible!

Like Barry Zito, I'm mildly half-OK.

by EliminateMe on Sep 15, 2008 11:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Absofuckinlutely.

"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott

by victor frankenstein on Sep 15, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

People at work laffed when I said i though 70-75 wins were more probable than not. heres to optimism!!!

by Big Daddy J on Sep 15, 2008 11:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All right, Hamilton!

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Sep 15, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My name is Judge!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Sep 15, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mock Trial With J. Reinhold!

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Sep 15, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s alright. It’s more laughs than I got in “Head Office.”

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear | McFAQ

by Natto on Sep 15, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Featuring William Hung and His Hung Jury

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Sep 15, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

Molina's gonna test his arm...

by Victorious Secret on Sep 16, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are their stockings hung by the chimney with care?

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The honorable Judge Reinhold presiding

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 16, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!

2008 Season in Summary: We haven't had a twenty-first baseman all year. How did that happen? Silly. It's almos.

by Zetsuboushita on Sep 15, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am for anything that gets Goofus dancing. I have enjoyed the late season much more than Castillo era and would like to see them win as many as possible. Damn the draft position, I am having fun!

by out machine on Sep 15, 2008 11:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

its nice to watch games and there feels more of a winning chance than losing. after the first 7, 8 games, 100 losses looked possible. Its worth mentioning again, that the kids are playing well and fun to watch!

by Big Daddy J on Sep 15, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping Karma works both ways

By playing honorably and competing until the final week of the season the Giants finish with their best record since 04. It knocks us down to the 11th pick in the draft, but that works to our favor when we take some toolsy high school SS or OF and that guy turns out to be the best player drafted.

by hammystyle on Sep 15, 2008 11:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

also its a bit cheaper and can be THE STEAL of the draft and crap. We’ll see.

by Big Daddy J on Sep 15, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As opposed to the Giants previous methods of piracy and thievery?

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Sep 15, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or some smallish pitcher with a funky delivery who everybody was afraid to take a couple years ago because of durability issues.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Sep 15, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that guy will never amount to anything.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Sep 15, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all a crapshoot in the draft past #5 anyway.

And the return on investment there is so long term that really, I think winning more games now could be more advantageous for the team.

We are assuredly not going to be in the top 5, so who cares. #9 vs #11 or whatever isn’t a really big difference.

The better record we post this season, the more likely borderline players may be willing to play here. It also increases ticket sales and overall profit for the team, which translates into higher salary.

Winning is good. Rooting for your team to lose is really pretty fundamentally wrong, anyways.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 15, 2008 11:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta disagree

We aren’t winning the NLWest, nor should we want to at this point in time. Even if we did, we’d lose abysmally in the playoffs, guaranteeing us nothing but a bad draft pick.

We ARE a bad team. We need a good draft pick in order to help fix that problem. I see that as the bottom line.

The Giants should be “DNR”: I don’t expect us to lose on purpose, but I don’t want any heroic measures taken to prolong our 2008 life. Play the kids, don’t do anything stupid like letting Lincecum throw more than 105 pitches (!), get Lewis that foot surgery, give Justin Hedrick a shot in the bullpen, and take whatever good draft pick we inevitably get next year.

Winning now is penny-wise and pound-foolish.

your 2008 SF Giants: this isn’t totally insane, just really stupid

by Lyle on Sep 16, 2008 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We aren’t winning the NLWest, nor should we want to at this point in time. Even if we did, we’d lose abysmally in the playoffs, guaranteeing us nothing but a bad draft pick.

Sorry, if the Giants were in the hunt right now, I’d be pulling for them to win the divisions. People might mock “meaningful games” but it’s always more fun when your team has a chance.

As far as how they’d do in the post-season, sure they’d be underdogs, but I’d still like to see what Tim, Matt and Durt could do to another team in short series. No one expected the Rockies to do much last season and look what happened. That shiznit would be fun as hell.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have never said this before but...

…I agree with Goofus.

Like Barry Zito, I'm mildly half-OK.

by EliminateMe on Sep 16, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve have never said that, either.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Goofus, he’s never said that.

D’oh!

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone who’s never agreed with Goofus must be pretty smart!

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Sep 16, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must’ve gotten dumber this week, then.

Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.

by EliminateMe on Sep 17, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too. I’ve never agreed with Goofus lots of times.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 17, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want the Giant's to lose to get a better draft postion.

Although, being less terrible than other terrible teams is not a cool accomplishment. It’s not an accomplishment at all. I really like watching the younger guys play and this late surge of beating bad teams has been fun. It gives the players and fans something to look forward to next season. That doesn’t mean this season didn’t suck.

by chilibean_3 on Sep 15, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Although, being less terrible than other terrible teams is not a cool accomplishment.

I agree, but I think improving your record over previous seasons, especially when many predicted we’d be much worse, is indeed a cool accomplishment.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 15, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I just can’t agree with “Congratulations, you’re less shitty!”

by chilibean_3 on Sep 15, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That being said, that doesn’t mean there weren’t any positives this season that will carry over into next season. Hurray steps toward being good again.

by chilibean_3 on Sep 15, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Less shitty is much better then More shitty. Always has been. Always will be.

I can get not be to enthused over less shitty. I actually am with you on that point. But given were this team has been the last 3+ seasons and what we looked like opening day ( a Single “A” player starting at SS for lords sake). I am very satisfied with less shitty – for now.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Sep 16, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all about perspective

If you’re locked in the basement of an outhouse, less shitty can be a wonderful thing!

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 16, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

beating bad teams

Let’s not forget that we pretty much knocked Arizona out of first place.

Over the next 13 games, 10 are against contenders. (AZ and LAD)

6 of those are against the current 1st place team in the division. (LAD)

If we can post a winning record in this upcoming 13 game stretch, I think that is a significant accomplishment.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 15, 2008 11:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

reply:

Fail

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 15, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arizona has been playing really poorly the last few weeks. I think getting destroyed by the Dodgers was the bigger blow to their playoff push.
Beating the Dodgers, in any situation, is always enjoyable. It will be fun to watch.

by chilibean_3 on Sep 15, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but

beating the Dodgers the last weekend of the season won’t be quite so glorious if they’ve already clinched the division and therefore have nothing to play for. I’d love for the D-Backs to still be in the division race then so Torre has to risk tweaking his playoff rotation against us.

No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.

by Kitspool on Sep 15, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

That would be nice. Not likely, but nice.

by chilibean_3 on Sep 15, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

I’m blowing my meager savings on some choice seats for myself and the boy Thursday – and since it’s all about me anyway…

"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott

by victor frankenstein on Sep 15, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well then, I hope the Giants destroy the Diamondbacks in THAT game, but lose the others. Ideally, Adam Dunn would strike out twice and walk twice, never scoring.

your 2008 SF Giants: this isn’t totally insane, just really stupid

by Lyle on Sep 16, 2008 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look, I just want it to be possible for the Giants to beat the Diamondback and for the Diamondbacks to get into the playoffs instead of the Dodgers. Is that so much to ask for?

by chilibean_3 on Sep 16, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if the D Backs are sunk by then the Bums will still want home field over NL East champion if it can possibly be attained.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Sep 16, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m worried that this recent success has actually been helping the Dodgers. If the Giants do well against the Dodgers though, it’ll be all cool.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Sep 15, 2008 12:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would call it The Latrine Redemption. Possibly they will make a movie out of it. At least the should.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Sep 16, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just worried

that Bochy will somehow interpret this recent success as the veterans somehow playing better, or something.

As for draft position, higher is better but I never root for the Giants to lose.

Also, I’d just like to pat my own back at this time.

Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.

by thehavenot on Sep 15, 2008 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like zenbitz was off on Molina and Winn but pretty accurate with Lewis and Rowand.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Sep 15, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't make a prediction for Winn

merely pointed out that he was bad, although I suppose one might misread me into saying Winn (already terrible) was going to get worse. I probably would have guessed he’d get somewhat better (but not as good as he has been). But I didn’t.

And I was not that far off on Molina too – dropped 10 pts. of BA and 60 points of SLG.

I hope I can be excused for not predicting the awesome power of Paul Stanley and Ishikawa…

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Sep 16, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we could only get some sort of visual that we could rally around…perhaps some sort of gesture or dance that would light a fire under the Giants and their fans for these next few weeks, that would be great.

I don’t suppose any sort of pics or photos come to mind.

by biff pocoroba on Sep 15, 2008 12:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Sep 15, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thursday's game , I'll be there.

Whaddya want?

"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott

by victor frankenstein on Sep 15, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap!

Ned Yost Fired!

No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.

by Kitspool on Sep 15, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't you know?

He singlehandedly made the Brewers get swept by the Phillies.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Sep 15, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap II!

Through six innings, Ted Lily is doing equally as well as his teammate Carlos Zambrano did last night.

No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.

by Kitspool on Sep 15, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…him?

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Sep 15, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never mind

It’s gone.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Sep 15, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fans seem to be really happy about this firing.

by chilibean_3 on Sep 15, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"But I want to win NOOWWWWW!!"

I am perfectly happy with the better than expected result this season. Yes, everyone wants to win but having a good perspective on where we were vs. where we are now goes a long way towards attaining season enjoyability.

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 15, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Post WIN of her!

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How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!

by WalrusMan on Sep 15, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew they were going to be better this year than they were last year.
No one believed me.

by AmorVincitOmnia on Sep 15, 2008 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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QuickPost Quickpost this image to Myspace, Digg, Facebook, and others!"/>

"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott

by victor frankenstein on Sep 16, 2008 8:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

rrrrrrr

"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott

by victor frankenstein on Sep 16, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here you go, Vic

Lookin’ sharrrrp.

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
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Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Sep 17, 2008 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

o m f g

Um – how’d you do that? What did/didn’t I do ?

And why didn’t you Shop me pretty?

"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott

by victor frankenstein on Sep 18, 2008 4:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The image shack code is bloated with fail-full filler. When the image is hosted online, it has its own URL, which will look like http://www.image.jpg (or .bmp or .gif or .png or whatever, depending on the image file). You can see this part existing in the mess of code you’ve been supplied with.

When you put the image shack code in here, delete everything except for the part that says < img src=“http://www.image.jpg” >

That’s the only piece you need, and ideally the only piece they would even give you. Eliminate the spaces to make it work.

Instead they give you a bunch of other crap, like target=“blank” (which is useful sometimes, but you really don’t need it) and alt=bunchofbullshit (which just is supposed to makes it a link that will get image shack inadvertent page hits!).

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Sep 18, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait. I have that part about alt wrong. Not the “bunchofbullshit” part, but the link part. If I’m not wrong again,the alt is supposed to create image shack pimping text on rollover, which, again, you really don’t need.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Sep 18, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want them to spectacularly fail. CG loses. 4 hour long offense fests that end with Walker giving up a grand slam. Great individual performances that add up to a losing record, but provide great promise for the future (and a good draft pick).

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Sep 17, 2008 6:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Poll results

The poll has pretty much stayed at 2-to-1 in favor of finshing strong. Plenty of support on both sides.

I wouldn’t mind a good draft pick, and I guess it’s a consolation prize, but I prefer having a springboard to continued improvement in 2009.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 17, 2008 8:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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