The Ballad of Fred Lewis
Fred Lewis was drafted in 1974, and he'd been a San Francisco Giants prospect for 33 years prior to this season. At least, that’s what it felt like. His tools were top-notch, but his performances were just average enough to justify moving him up the organizational chain one...level…at…a…time. When he finally won a starting job (thanks, Dave Roberts’s knee!), Lewis was 27. And, as usual, he was an average left fielder. Among major league left fielders, he’s 15th in VORP this year. If he were 16th, he would have been below-average. That’s not how Lewis rolls, though. Whenever he starts a new league, he switches into "expected production"-mode, whatever that might mean, and he performs close to the median. The guy has a history of average performances.
What happens when he gets to repeat a level? No one knows. He’s never had two full seasons at the same level. Lewis had 171 at-bats of above-average goodness in AAA before he was called up for his first extended big league appearance. Next season will be Fred Lewis’s first proper sequel. Will it be The Godfather II, or will it be Caddyshack II? I’m cautiously optimistic. Put me down for a Patriot Games. Wait, no, that wasn’t quite as good as the first one. Put me down for an The Empire Strikes Back. Wait, no, that one’s such a downer at the end. Give me either of the Bourne sequels, then, with a steadier camera.
Lewis struck out 124 times in 468 at-bats, which isn’t especially egregious, but 40% of those strikeouts were looking. I don't have a way to sort players by caught-looking strikeouts, so the only thing I could think of was to look at a handful of low-strikeout players and high-strikeout players, and see if any of them took called third strikes at a similar rate.
Mark Reynolds – 183 strikeouts, 19% called
Dan Uggla – 152 strikeouts, 26% called
Ryan Howard – 189 strikeouts, 19% called
Albert Pujols – 49 strikeouts, 20% called
Jimmy Rollins – 48 strikeouts, 42% called
Bengie Molina – 34 strikeouts, 9% called
Ah-ha!, I thought when I got to Rollins, but 48 strikeouts isn’t much of a sample, and it’s much higher than his career rate of 26%. At least we know that Lewis isn’t a complete freak. After getting the above names, I kept cycling through Baseball Reference, looking at strikeout splits for dozens and dozens of players. It doesn’t really matter what style of hitter a guy is – hacker, slappy annoying type, walking machine, etc… – no one takes as many third strikes as Fred Lewis.
Two possible interpretations:
- It’s a fluke, and if Lewis’s batting average on balls in play is even somewhat sustainable, Lewis will improve when he makes more contact.
- Lewis is just getting used to major league pitching, but he’s also getting used to major league umpires. With experience, he’ll be able to define the strike zone better. Right now, he’s taking as many pitches as almost anyone in the league, but that isn’t the best stat in the world if it correlates to a disproportionate amount of called third strikes.
Of course, there are other interpretations out there. For example, it’s possible that Lewis’s BABIP is completely unsustainable, and he’s doomed to a career of .260 averages and modest power. Maybe he’ll never get a grasp of the strike zone, and he’ll forever believe that umpires are picking on him.
But I’m choosing to be optimistic because of something else. The last time the Giants farm system drafted and signed a better outfielder than Fred Lewis, Bing Crosby might have been listening to a Clash 8-track on his way to see Star Wars in the theater. At least, that’s how I’ve always pictured the world back then. It’s been a while, San Francisco. We deserve a good, homegrown outfielder.
When asked how success would be defined for the 2008 Giants, a lot of people mentioned that they were hoping for one – just one – of the semi-prospects to emerge as a legitimate major leaguer. Lewis did that this year, and I’m looking forward to watching him next year. Open Lewis Appreciation Thread.
One last thing: When it was used to describe Mark McGwire, bunionesque used to be a positive adjective. I’m sick of structural bone deformities co-opting our language, dammit!
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The Ballad of Freddie Lew and Johnny B
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by jponry on Sep 11, 2008 2:30 PM PDT 0 recs
If I wasn’t lazy, I’d try to do some sort of parody of the Dylan song, but I am lazy.
Everyone knows I love Fred, but I can’t help but be a bit concerned about the BABIP factor. Still, I think he’s done enough to deserve a starting spot in the outfield somewhere next year. Maybe with a year of major league experience under his belt (and a lack of bunions), he’ll make further improvements to his game.
And I must be the only person in the world who doesn’t freak out that badly if he Ks looking more often than normal.
He’s awesome and he should feel awesome. And anyone who thinks he sucks because he doesn’t have enough RBIZZZ can just gtfo.
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by jponry on
Sep 11, 2008 2:36 PM PDT
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I just BUZZED THIS UP
what the hell does that mean?
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by delorean on Sep 11, 2008 2:34 PM PDT 0 recs
Every time you buzz a Grant post an angel has an orgasm.
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by xanthan on
Sep 11, 2008 2:44 PM PDT
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ewwwwwwwww
K-Rod just creamed his jeans
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by delorean on
Sep 11, 2008 2:46 PM PDT
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So, that’s what he’s been doing …

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by xanthan on
Sep 11, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
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Ton infinity…and beyond!
Which further reminds me of when Ali G interviewed astronaut Buzz Aldrin and referred to him as Buzz Lightyear. Funny stuff
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by Goofus on
Sep 11, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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Bing Crosby was a very wealthy man — he would have just hired the Clash to perform for him. And Star Wars was just a remake of Road to Morocco anyway.
by satyricrash on Sep 11, 2008 2:35 PM PDT 0 recs
Anyone catch that one man Star Wars play a year or two ago?
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on
Sep 11, 2008 2:44 PM PDT
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It's completely irrational, but....
during the first home series of the season, and the first game of the year I attended, Fred’s shoestring catch on the bullpen mound, followed by his perfect throw to double up Jim Edmonds running home, was so exhilarating to witness that, for me, it completely outweighed the shaky parts of his game that followed in 2008 (his K rate, his occasionally Magellan-esque route to fly balls, etc.).
Also, he’s a nice guy who calls his mom regularly. Suck on it, Stats Freaks!
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by Kitspool on Sep 11, 2008 2:38 PM PDT 0 recs
I like me some Fred Lewis
The only time his strikeouts get bothersome is with 2 outs and RISP – for god sakes man, put the ball in play.
POUND THE KEYS!
Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on Sep 11, 2008 2:39 PM PDT 0 recs
lowell!
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by delorean on
Sep 11, 2008 2:41 PM PDT
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I feel especially close to Fred
I , too , have a bunion.
We’re , like , bunion buddies.
The Bunion Bros.
It just pisses me off no end that I can’t have surgery and take the next four months off…screw you , Lewis.
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on Sep 11, 2008 2:53 PM PDT 0 recs
Oh no! Are you going to be ready to post in spring training threads? Why didn’t you get this taken care of months ago!?
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by jcb9 on
Sep 11, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
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Considering the revolving door policy this year (Approved)
I am posting in Spring Training threads.
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on
Sep 11, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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I thought that was going to be a haiku
"I think I was the best player I ever saw"
Willie Mays, you ain't kidding
by CB30 on
Sep 11, 2008 4:44 PM PDT
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Imagine if I'd tried.
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by victor frankenstein on
Sep 11, 2008 5:01 PM PDT
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Like Freddie’s bunion
Victor is a bulging mess
He limps like a girl
by Lars The Wanderer on
Sep 11, 2008 5:03 PM PDT
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I think his strike outs while looking will decrease over time – mostly, I’d say they’re a symptom of his patience at the plate, which is a good thing – but he needs to learn how to make the adjustment in a 2-strike count. That should come with experience.
I have no evidence for this whatsoever, mind you. Just my feeling.
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by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 3:05 PM PDT 0 recs
I’m not worried about all the called 3rd strikes. I figure once he gets to about 600 career HRs, he’ll get a lot of those close calls that Bonds got.
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by Goofus on Sep 11, 2008 3:12 PM PDT 0 recs
Lewis and called 3rd strikes - a positive outlook.
What I think is positive about this statistic is that it is so easily correctable.
If a guy is striking out on a lot of called 3rd strikes, it is pretty easy to tell him not to take so many pitches with two strikes. Protect the plate more. You see it in little league all the time (where this is a common problem). Just swing, dude.
This isn’t a skill, it’s a conscious decision. (like swinging at the first pitch). Fred CAN dramatically reduce his number of called 3rd strikes next season very easily. In fact, he could absolutely guarantee that he wouldn’t even do it once, if he so chose. (not that that would be a prudent choice, but you get my point. Completely in his control)
One would assume that, given he is a decent contact guy, that is going to result in more balls put in play. (Also more swinging strikeouts, but swinging strikeouts aren’t any worse than called ones)
That will typically lead to more hits. (more hits than striking out, anyway) Even a BABIP of .100 would be an improvement.
The one concern with this shift in approach would be that it would cause him to walk less – if he is swinging at more pitches with two strikes then he is going to take fewer pitches for balls. (duh) Lewis takes a lot of pitches and walks a lot, I would hate to see him start hacking w/ 2 strikes and as a result see a sharp decline in the # of walks….
But, I would argue, that the stats suggest this is not a big concern.
Flew 2008 BB: 9.7
Flew 2008 BB% w/ 2 strikes:7%
Flew 2008 BB% w/ 2 strikes but count NOT full: 0%
That is right. In all 0-2, 1-2, and 2-2 counts this season, Fred Lewis walked 0 times.
So, I would argue, that unless the count is full – with 2 strikes, Flew should be swinging at anything that is even close – cause he isn’t gonna walk anyways.
If he doesn’t change this next season, it is a purely a result of ignorance and / or a lack of communication. It is NOT a question whether or not he has the skill to do so, because everyone has the skill to swing the bat when the pitcher throws the ball (and you have two strikes against you).
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Sep 11, 2008 3:13 PM PDT 0 recs
Okay, I'm runnin with this
Lewis makes contact 81.02 % of the time he swings.
If we take those 50 called third strikes, and instead statistically force him to swing at them, we get a ball in play 81% of the time, or 40 balls in play.
If we use a league average BABIP of .300 against those 40 new balls in play he picks up 12 hits.
Add those 12 hits to the 132 he already got this season, and we get 144.
That’s a .307 Batting average.
Assuming all singles, that’s a .307/.382/.470 Slash.
Or a .852 OPS.
Swing the fuckin’ bat, Fred.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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just to double check...
are you looking at Baseball-Reference.com? Their split info is just for the next pitch, not outcome of the at bat – i.e. no one walks when they have less than 3 balls in the count, and no one strikes out with less than 2 strikes in the count. With a full count, Lewis took 21 walks in 93 plate appearances. 22% resulted in BBs then.
Sorry, if I am being daft.
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
by kennv on
Sep 11, 2008 4:03 PM PDT
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Ahh, shit - you might be right.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
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I'm going to have to spend a little more time on this, it seems.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:08 PM PDT
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Alright, let's re-run the #'s.
2 strike BB %:
3-2: 23%
2-2: 8%
1-2: 4%
0-2: 1%
So, it’s not as drastic – but certainly on 1-2 and 0-2 counts he should be swinging at anything even close. 2-2 counts wouldn’t be a bad idea, either – but 3-2 counts he should probably keep doing what he is doing.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:13 PM PDT
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if you’ve got the numbers, can you look at something for me? What is his strikeout percentage (or even better called and swinging) in those counts?
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by kennv on
Sep 11, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
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Strikeout %
3-2: 31%
2-2: 39%
1-2: 43%
0-2: 51%
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:45 PM PDT
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yeah well he never strikes out when its 0-1 thats good
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by CB30 on
Sep 11, 2008 4:47 PM PDT
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Also
Those are “After” numbers, not next pitch numbers.
So, when he starts out 0-2, 51% of the time he EVENTUALLY ends up striking out.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:48 PM PDT
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JT Snow
His career strikeout looking% was 42.
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
by kennv on Sep 11, 2008 3:50 PM PDT 0 recs
And he bitched about every single one of those called 3rd strikes on the way back to the dugout.
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by Goofus on
Sep 11, 2008 3:56 PM PDT
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My hypothesis on all the called 3rd strikes
He’s guessing too much with 2 strikes. Instead of going into protect mode, he’s still trying to guess what the pitcher will throw him. If he doesn’t guess right, he’s frozen.
That’s my theory at least.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Sep 11, 2008 3:57 PM PDT 0 recs
I think you are correct.
And it’s the wrong approach, as witnessed by his .233 OBP w/ two strikes.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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what's league average?
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by delorean on
Sep 11, 2008 4:13 PM PDT
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Fuck if i know, probably not good.
But it doesn’t really matter what league average is – his approach with 2 strikes is not successful (even if the rest of the league is unsuccessful as well).
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
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Well, yeah it does matter
If league average OBP w/ 2 strikes is .200, then .233 would be good, meaning his approach might be just fine.
I suspect it’s not, though.
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by delorean on
Sep 11, 2008 4:16 PM PDT
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Well, I guess my point is
The league, as a whole, is probably pretty bad w/ 2 strikes.
A player like Lewis who is a high OBP player (hence his value) I would hope to do much better than the league average.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:46 PM PDT
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The league average hitter has the following line with 2 strikes:
.189/.261/.287
Fred Lewis with 2 strikes:
.190/.244/.269
EVERY hitter isn’t a very good hitter with 2 strikes.
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Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:39 PM PDT
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Fred needs to get down with OBP in 2SS.
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by delorean on
Sep 11, 2008 4:43 PM PDT
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well
he nuked his zips projection which was:
.255/.338/.384
Although obv. a bunch of that was BA… and hopefull he doesn’t lose too much when his BABIP drops down to .300 or whatever league avg is…
I hate to say it, but, sell.
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by zenbitz on Sep 11, 2008 4:23 PM PDT 0 recs
There are reasons
To think his BABIP is sustainable, dude.
Look @ Matt Kemp – he’s just as ridiculous but no one is saying “sell sell sell” on him…
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:47 PM PDT
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What reasons? He’s fast, but he’s not Ichiro, and speed and high BABIP have never been proven to be connected anyway. His LD% is below average. I’m not saying we should sell, but odds are that Fred’s BABIP is a result of luck, not skills.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
Sep 12, 2008 1:23 AM PDT
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Seems like a few things might work in a players favor. Speed as you mention – but it hasn’t been proven. Ground balls up the middle – do they go for hits more often than other ground balls? And the outfield configurations of where the player plays. For a San Francisco player more fly balls may got for hits than in some other parks (where they may be HR or outs.) Getting to play in the NL West and in SD as well could contribute.
But one should probably expect a regression to league averages, until proven otherwise.
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by kennv on
Sep 12, 2008 5:51 AM PDT
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just to clarify
“sell” here means in the general sense, of bet that he will regress. Not necessarily trade for journey man middle reliever or live A-ball arm.
I also suspect that his K-looking rate and BABIP may be correlated. That is to say, the reason that his BABIP is so high is that he’s very selective – not even swinging at borderline strikes.
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by zenbitz on
Sep 12, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
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I would agree with this
And I think this is a good approach.
But probably not w/ 2 strikes, as I think the numbers suggest.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 12, 2008 9:29 AM PDT
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I also suspect that his K-looking rate and BABIP may be correlated. That is to say, the reason that his BABIP is so high is that he’s very selective – not even swinging at borderline strikes.
Dammit. I meant to put that in my post, but I forgot. Thief.
by Grant on
Sep 12, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
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early lineup
Lf winn
Rf schierholtz
1b sandoval
C Molina
3b Aurilia
Cf Rowand
2b velez
Ss vizquel
P Cain
What happened to Rohlinger?
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by giants9107 on Sep 11, 2008 4:31 PM PDT 0 recs
Who?
I barely know ’er
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by delorean on
Sep 11, 2008 4:32 PM PDT
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No Ishikawa? Bochass.......
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by Mordy From Monsey on
Sep 11, 2008 4:36 PM PDT
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Sandoval is the new flavor of the month to Bochy
Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
by thehavenot on
Sep 11, 2008 4:40 PM PDT
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Clearly, Aurilia > Ishikawa. Even against righties.
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by jcb9 on
Sep 11, 2008 4:41 PM PDT
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Epic Fail
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by CB30 on
Sep 11, 2008 4:47 PM PDT
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Clearly, Aurilia > Ishikawa. Even against righties.>>>
Clearly Bochass isn’t the only one missing the point here. Aurilia could hit 2 1/2 grand slams a night and he still shouldn’t play over Ishikawa or Rohlinger for that matter, unless Bochy still thinks he has a shot at the NL West title!!
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by Mordy From Monsey on
Sep 11, 2008 4:49 PM PDT
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Especially given that tonight is a meaningless game.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
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Clearly, someone is missing the SARCHASM.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on
Sep 11, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
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Oops…I was having a Bochy moment
"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading
by Mordy From Monsey on
Sep 11, 2008 4:55 PM PDT
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ARRRRRRRGH.
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by jponry on
Sep 11, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
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Whoa, I had no idea Cain was pitching today.
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by jponry on
Sep 11, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
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SURPRISE!
I’m excited, I’m going to plot his pitches tomorrow _
Michael Ambort: Dude hits TATERS.
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:43 PM PDT
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_ = ^ _ ^
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My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Sep 11, 2008 4:43 PM PDT
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hopefully they’re not so bad they destroy your entire STATSLAIR with their crappiness.
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by jponry on
Sep 11, 2008 4:56 PM PDT
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Matt Cain = Terrorist???
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by jcb9 on
Sep 11, 2008 4:58 PM PDT
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But it’ll be a lot less work!
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