Giants to carry 3 catchers in '09?

Pedro is Catching ^_^

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by xanthan on Sep 11, 2008 7:50 AM PDT 0 recs

Where's Lowry in RF & Winn on 3B?

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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 11, 2008 8:01 AM PDT up 0 recs

Let's not forget Burriss in RF

I love Bizzaro Baseball.

I really liked Pedro ;(

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by FairweatherFan on Sep 11, 2008 8:03 AM PDT up 0 recs

You know how much it pains me to agree with you

but i too was a major Pedro fan. Such a class guy.

Frustrating as hell to watch, but a great, great guy.

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by delorean on Sep 11, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up 0 recs

I liked Pedro a lot, just felt he was miscast. If he could’ve been a 7th place hitter and played his All-Universe defense here, I would’ve been much happier. It was just frustrating to watch him stall out ot the big league level because he just couldn’t lay off sliders.

by tyrannoman on Sep 11, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up 0 recs

Perhaps his bat would have panned out a little better as a SS, too.

by rotorueter on Sep 11, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up 0 recs

I actually would have been okay with Pete at SS this year

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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 11, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up 0 recs

Back when we were stuck with Neifi Perez at SS, I shouted myself horse about giving Feliz a shot at SS. Nobody listened.

I ended up hating Feliz. He made huge strides with his defense, but he never, ever improved as a hitter. He could’ve been a decent hitter with his power, but he continued with his idiotic, hack-at-slop approach at the plate.

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by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up 0 recs

From what I remember...

Yes Feliz was ok as a SS, but as a 3B he was phenomenal.

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by WalrusMan on Sep 11, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up 0 recs

Bonds...

“Yo dude, you need to go over there.” ::points::

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by WalrusMan on Sep 11, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up 0 recs

Still the greatest thing I have ever seen.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2008 8:20 AM PDT up 0 recs

That picture

Always reminds me of the game that it was taken from, though. And that game sucked.

Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.

by thehavenot on Sep 11, 2008 8:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

Yeah the game was a confusing, depressing mess.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up 0 recs

I was hoping somebody would post that.

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by S.F. Giangst on Sep 11, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up 0 recs

If Pablo’s going to be playing first and third as well as catcher next year, they’ll probably definitely need to carry three catchers. Holm would probably turn into an emergency catcher though, which could be a wasteful use of a roster spot.

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by jponry on Sep 11, 2008 8:05 AM PDT 0 recs

I was thinking about that. But. if you’re talking about the 25-man roster, Vizquel and Aurilia will be gone so…

C – Molina, Sandoval
IF – Frandsen, Burriss, Velez +2 of Ochoa, Denker, Rohlnger, Ishikawa, Bowker, McClain, Ortmeier
OF – Lewis, Rowand, Schierholtz, Winn, Roberts

That’s 12 hitters and they’ll probably break camp with 13. So while it might be a “wasted” spot, it’s at least the last spot. It should be alright though, since it gives you the flexibility to pinch run for either, and especially you don’t have to ask Sandoval to strap it on in the late innings when he’s started in the infield.

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by S.F. Giangst on Sep 11, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up 0 recs

Ort would be a wasted spot.

by tyrannoman on Sep 11, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up 0 recs

TBH Ort’s probably gonna be gone by next spring. He basically fell off the face of the earth since his injury.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up 0 recs

Given: Bochy manages this group of younger guys like he need multiple Platoons for the LHP.

IIF this was a "Lost year" for Ort because of his injury
Then he might have a shot earning a spot as the LHP part of a platoon and as utility guy.

Conclusion : Odds are not good. But there are there.

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by daveinexile on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

Isn’t Ortmeier off the 40-man roster now? I can’t see him making it back to the big leagues with us. I’m also pretty sure Rohlinger will be in the minors, and while I’d like to see Denker on the team, the fact that they haven’t called him up since the roster expanded speaks volumes.

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by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up 0 recs

Lewis may not be back for the first month of the season or so. Thus one more spot in flux for a guy that could man a corner OF spot for a few days at a time.

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by daveinexile on Sep 11, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up 0 recs

let me introduce you to Dave Roberts! Dave, daveinexile.

by tyrannoman on Sep 11, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up 0 recs

Nice!

Back on topic before i derail again ~~still~~. That still leaves a roster spot open to fill if Lewis take a full 6 months. So players with some experience in OF would get bonus points when trying to survive the Cage Match ( Ochoa, Denker, Rohlnger, Ishikawa, Bowker, McClain, Ortmeier ) noted above.

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by daveinexile on Sep 11, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up 0 recs

I’m thinking that it would be Bowker, rather than Ort. Ort isn’t even on the 40-man at this point, and I wouldn’t think he would be put back on it.

by tyrannoman on Sep 11, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

Could be Velez, Frandsen * shrugs* or even someone they give a crash coarse in Spring Training to.

Out that Steel cage match – barring a fabulous spring- would rather see Denker & Rohlnger along Bowker in Fresno getting every play. At least that’s the way I am leaning today.

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by daveinexile on Sep 11, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ishikawa will make the roster. McClain would be doubtful to make the roster.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 11, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up 0 recs

So would Frandsen, Ochoa, Denker, Rohlinger, Ishikawa, Bowker, McClain for that matter. There isn’t a single impact bat in that group of hitters, and that is what the Giants need more than anything else.

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Sep 11, 2008 9:12 AM PDT 0 recs

Noooooooooooooooooooooonan!

sorry… I just wanted to say that. you may carry on.

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by shikantaza on Sep 11, 2008 9:24 AM PDT 0 recs

IHNJH

but I thought the headline read “Giants to carry 3 Characters”

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by zenbitz on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 AM PDT 0 recs

my 3 favorite

characters are # ! ?

Which one is playing catcher for us?

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by senorvegas on Sep 11, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up 0 recs

isn't it obvious

is catching
? is pitching and
! is hitting (although honestly he usually just stands there with his bat glued to his shoulder)

Do they know to win the game a team has to actually score at least once?

by noahthek on Sep 11, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up 0 recs

hmmm

maybe ’# is catching

Do they know to win the game a team has to actually score at least once?

by noahthek on Sep 11, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up 0 recs

I generally like to start a campaign with more than 3 Characters

Otherwise, they’ll be struggling to beat a gaggle of goblins.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Sep 11, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up 0 recs

Do you split their skills equally?

Or stock up on one type? In FF1 speak:

Fighter
Thief
White Magic
Black Magic

In the 5th spot do you take another magician or another fighter or thief?

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 11, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

Err...I should say in the 4th spot

/nerd

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 11, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

FF? newb

I’m talking 2e D&D.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Sep 11, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

He’s talking D&D, but I’m always an aggressive physical attack sort of player regardless of game. I don’t have time for silly strategy and time-consuming thinking. If I can’t just smash my way through a boss, what’s even the point?

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by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

Nothing’s more fun than coming up with some crazy strategy and totally flabbergasting the DM.

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by Bhaakon on Sep 11, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yeah, as long as that crazy strategy involves lots of smashing and not much else.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

No, no

You got to do something totally crazy. Like shrink a half-ton hog down to the size of a suckling pig, cooking it up, feeding it to your enemies, then releasing the spell.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Sep 11, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

Could I shrink the hog down by beating it, and the release the spell by taking a half-ton hammer to my enemies?

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by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up 0 recs

Meh

Just not as fun as making their stomachs explode. Inside their bodies, that is.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Sep 11, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up 0 recs

If I had a bomb and a knife, I could do that.

I mean, it would be somewhat invasive at first, but the eventual explosion would be coming from inside their bodies.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

Garrett

Your game-playing strategy is clearly lacking in speed and defense, which, as everyone knows, is where gaming is headed.

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by Lyle on Sep 12, 2008 8:15 AM PDT up 0 recs

But… power! You can’t spell power without POW!

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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up 0 recs

Fireball?

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by Bhaakon on Sep 12, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up 0 recs

Having three catchers in this scenario would make more sense than the last time we had three catchers in the mid-90s – I remember two of them were Kirt Manwaring and Tom Lampkin, but I can’t remember the third. It was all deeply pointless.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 11:38 AM PDT 0 recs

Rick Wilkins!?

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Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Sep 11, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up 0 recs

Yes, that must be who it was!

His Giants tenure was pretty weird: he was very good the first year, then almost Bocock-bad the next. Well, not really. But he hit below .200 in around 200 at bats, which ain’t good. His biggest contribution, though, was to get traded for Brian Johnson.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up 0 recs

And looking at the 1995 roster, I’m reminded we also did a stint with Manwaring, Lampkin, and Jeff Reed. Reed’s numbers were amost Burriss-ian – OBP of around .375, SLG of under .300.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up 0 recs

Rick Wilkins was my #3 all-time favorite Giants back-up catcher.

We actually traded hot shot prospect C Marcus Jensen for Johnson.

/useless knowledge

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by xanthan on Sep 11, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up 0 recs

Really? Hmm. I could’ve sworn in was Wilkins. Ah, baseball-reference helps – actually, we traded Manwaring for Wilkins. That’s what I was thinking of.

So the three-catcher roster I was thinking of was definitely Manwaring, Reed, and Lampkin.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up 0 recs

Remember Brent Mayne? I was also fond of him.

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Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Sep 11, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up 0 recs

He was okay. Not a personal favorite.

I forgot we ever had Damon Berryhill! I remember when he and Joe Girardi both came up for the Cubs around the same time.

I was always inordinantly fond of Torrealba.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up 0 recs

+1 on the Torrealba fondness. I don’t know why, but I just loved the guy.

by tyrannoman on Sep 11, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

He lead the league in Not Being Pierzynski and Not Being Traded For Nathan, Bonser, And Liriano, so that helped.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Sep 11, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up 0 recs

For that, he deserves a Yankees-style statue at Mays Field.

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by Lyle on Sep 12, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up 0 recs

I hate him now though. Bastard.

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by jponry on Sep 11, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yorvit (the big boys now)

When Yorvit was a rookie, Mark (Rxmeister) called him Yorvit (the big boys now). I LOVED it — and I still love Yorvit as a player, although his shoulder injury has robbed him of his throwing ability and probably some power.

But just think what might have happened if instead of trading the entire pitching prospect staff for A.J. Pierzynski, the Giants had instead signed Gregg Zaun — who signed a minor-league free agent contract with the Blue Jays, for whom he still plays — and platooned the lesser-fielding, good switch-hitting Zaun, then called the world’s best backup catcher, with slick-fielding, developing right-handed hitting Yorvit.

by sharksrog on Sep 12, 2008 12:40 AM PDT up 0 recs

now i am sad again.

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by daveinexile on Sep 12, 2008 9:29 AM PDT up 0 recs

For a second I thought you said the Giants should’ve signed Greg VAUGHN. I was scratching my head on that one.

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by jcb9 on Sep 12, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up 0 recs

He meant Rick Vaughn

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

Vince Vaughn

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by zenbitz on Sep 12, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up 0 recs

I always thought Berryhill looked like one of the Baldwin brothers…

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by WTF on Sep 11, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up 0 recs

I think it would be cool. Especially since Holm’s hitting far exceeded my expectations this year. although he wouldn’t see much action, he seems like a good guy and it would be cool to see him draw a big league pay check.

I’ve said this before regarding Feliz: I think with his quick hands, sure glove and cannon of an arm, he could have been a very good catcher. His offensive deficiencies would have been far less bothersome there.

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by Goofus on Sep 11, 2008 2:04 PM PDT 0 recs

Very nice idea

Very nice idea regarding Pedro.

by sharksrog on Sep 12, 2008 12:41 AM PDT up 0 recs

Two

Since the third catcher’s bat would likely be weak, I would carry only two.

by sharksrog on Sep 12, 2008 12:41 AM PDT 0 recs

But is it likely to be weaker than the IF Sandoval displaces? If not, 3.

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by S.F. Giangst on Sep 12, 2008 3:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

“the other team will steal more often than Ruben Rivera in an unattended locker room.”

Too soon!

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by Josh from Hollywood on Sep 12, 2008 3:28 PM PDT 0 recs

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