Amy G
Amy G is the worst. How long until someone in the orginization has to point out to the dizzy bird that Pablo only knows about 4 phrases in barely audible english. She sits there and repeatedly asks him the same questions over and over, gets the same response, then asks him something that he just doesn't have the ability to answer. It's not just with Pablo, I mean, she flat out sucks period, but when interviewing a guy who doesn't speak the same language, maybe change the approach a bit. She makes me sick.
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Well, when I talked to her last week at Omar’s event, I took her as a real snob. I can see the correlation between your view on her scooping Pablo’s English and my interaction with her. I don’t see the reason why she’s so snooty, she’s not all that any way.
My $0.02
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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 10, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Conisdering what the G in Amy G stands for, would it be too much to ask that in a game dominated by Spanish-speaking players, that we have a sideline reporter that can converse in Spanish, asking questions and relaying the responses to the fans in English. Although that wouldn’t even help Amy G because even if she did know Spanish, she still doesn’t know baseball and I think that’s the reason we’re all here bashing her. I understand the need for a pretty face but is it too much to ask that she understands the game she’s covering. I swear by the end of the season she’s going to talk about how many “points” the Giants have scored.
by IVSPORT on Sep 10, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m also pretty sad about the lack of Spanish-speaking reporters/writers out there. My next goal is to begin Spanish courses so I can speak to these guys directly. I gotta learn enough by April 2009 to talk to Angel Villalona when he joins the SJ Giants!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember being really pissed off because Lisa Winston(?) only interviewed American players in the Futures Game. 30 million Americans speak Spanish – it shouldn’t be hard to get a translator, not to mention an actual reporter who speaks Spanish.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Sep 11, 2008 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Lisa does not speak Spanish. She said she actually got Sergio Romo to translate for her in the AFL last year. He was happy to oblige.
We discussed the lack of minorities in journalism in my journalism class last night. Newsrooms and news staffs are still ridiculously white. Just thinking real quick like I can only think of one minority on the Sporting Green staff; Janny Hu, the Warriors’ beat writer. The rest are whites.
I admit I F’ed up by not embracing my initial Spanish language abilities, but I’m going to correct that after this semester is over. It’s the least I can do, to reach out to half the baseball playing population out there.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the lack of minorities in journalism, but even if you don’t have a Spanish speaking reporter, why can’t you just get a translator?
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Sep 11, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If/when I interview Angel Villalona next year, I will request a translator or ask if I can bring one with. It’s all about getting the story any way you can (within ethical reason). I don’t understand why one wouldn’t see it as such.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2008 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody cares!
She blew off Gary Radnick during KNBR day earlier this year. He tried to joke with her before the game, but she put her hand up to say she was busy taping a segment for G Mag.
by faust10 on Sep 10, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blowing off Gary Radnich earns her a few points in my book
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by Flashfire on Sep 10, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although she has gotten more attractive in these last weeks, don’t ask me why.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 10, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree with you…and that scares me. Perhaps I’m drinking more before games?
by tyrannoman on Sep 10, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know what it is
Hair getting longer? I dont know, maybe the cocaine and guiness before games. I guess it will remain a mystery
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 10, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the glasses are damn hot on her. I dunno. I’m gonna go get a couple of Red Tails and think about it before the game.
by tyrannoman on Sep 10, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the cold weather
Those that are a little “thick” look better bundled up.
by seyheystretch on Sep 10, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What ever happened to that other reporter before her? She was good
What was her name again? The blonde curly hair one?
by Matt Rox on Sep 10, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lulzz. I hope that was sarcasm on the 'good' part
Cammy Blackstone was at Omar’s thing, too! In person, she looks likes the walking undead.
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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 10, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t get past that nasally voice and complete lack of knowledge. Other than that, she’s OK.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Sep 10, 2008 9:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What I would like to read now, is the Baron ripping her a new one
hint hint
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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 10, 2008 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
new one of what?
can i do stuff to it?
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 10, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever gets your jollies, I suppose
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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 10, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My brother got an earful of it this weekend. Even he agrees she needs to do one of two things: get smarter or get hotter. She’s not pretty enough to be so dumb. Plus bitch stole my glasses! She needs to get her own schtick. I’ve been wearing the librarian glasses for six years now.
Though I can’t really fault her for not getting much out of an interviewee. One recent interview I did was not so grate aktully because the guy just spoke in cliches. There’s not a lot you can do if the guy speaking to you gives you so little to work with.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer getting smarter. I love hot girls, but give me one with a baseball brain before you turn her loose DURING THE MUTHERFUCKING GAME!!!!! I hate it when they break away from acutal baseball to cut to an interview with Amy G. and some random dumbass in the stands, or even worse, a C-list celeb (I’m looking at you, Christian Slater).
by tyrannoman on Sep 10, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remove "speaking to" , insert Bocockian verb
Too much time in my hands.
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time isn't the only thing you have in your hands...
Heh heh.
by withclubsauce on Sep 10, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate her rack.
And her naughty librarian glasses.
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2008 9:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind her.
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
by SF Pete on Sep 10, 2008 9:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This should have been a FanNot
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Sep 10, 2008 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
I don’t hate her, I hate the concept. I just don’t see the need for a reporter to cut to during a baseball game.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 10, 2008 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the first season i have significantly followed the giants and i have to agree that she is just not a good correspondent. I noticed that ESPN has started the trend of casting all hot girls as sports correspondents, but Amy G is neither hot, nor a good interviewer.
I will give her the naughty librarian nod as well though…
JB fan since '97
by cnasty on Sep 10, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pictures?
…for those of us outside the market?
your 2008 SF Giants: this isn’t totally insane, just really stupid
by Lyle on Sep 10, 2008 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you watch the MLBtv feeds, Lyle? Ah, that morning time slot strikes again, I ’spect.
Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!
by Roger on Sep 10, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Went to reference a picture....
to refresh my memory of the “hot librarian glasses” look of which ye all have spoken, since I dont remember her with said look, so I did what any one person would logically do, I googled her name, and after a few permutations, I found this little nugget.
http://amygutierrez.blogspot.com/2008/07/if-i-had-dollar_10.html
YES, SHE HAS A BLOG! ? !
Haven’t read it officially yet, kinda perused….but thought I’d throw it out there.
Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?
by NorCalGiant on Sep 10, 2008 10:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ok...
it’s been moved, and I guess it’s not so hard to find, if you wanted to find it.
http://bayarea.comcastsportsnet.com/category/sports-blogs/amy-gs-blog/
Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?
by NorCalGiant on Sep 10, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She should call her blog the "Amy G Spot"
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 10, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm there...
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Sep 10, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/rimshot
Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?
by NorCalGiant on Sep 10, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOL'd
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like many here...
I also noticed that she got a bit hotter recently.
like many here, I also chalked this up to my drinking more at night recently.
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Sep 10, 2008 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How do we get Baron as the correspondent?
I said Baron, not Bacon.
Read more carefully.
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by The Enchanter on Sep 10, 2008 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
mmmmmmm
bacon
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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 10, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bacon has intelligence and sexy going for it.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOM goes the DIZZLE
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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 10, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's dead to me
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, it’s hard to compete against bacon. Bacon being awesome and all.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it when Amy does her ridiculous two-bit dog and pony interview-a-rama and she throws it back to Kruk and Kuip and they totally ignore whatever it was she was honking through that beak of hers.
by satyricrash on Sep 10, 2008 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the games on TV
So, um, what the hell am I doing here?
Oh yeah…
Anagram of “reporter Amy Gutierrez” = EMPTY TERRORIZER. ARGUE
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Matt Cain" = TRAGIC MAN, ISN'T PATHETIC
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 10, 2008 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Amy Gutierrez
Raze Ire Tug My
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are on fire as usual.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think of these on your own?
Or have a program. I am amazed by this.
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by Azmanz on Sep 10, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He IS the program!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t get all the vicious hating on something as innocuous as a sideline reporter.
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Sep 10, 2008 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I could go into my thesis-length argument on how women like Amy G ruin it for the rest of us, the smart, sharp, informed women in sports media, and how the sideline reporter position itself ruins it for all of us, but I’m really mellow from my vacation and feeling less misanthropic than usual. Plus it’s a bunch of politcs and feminist rhetoric that most people don’t care about anyway. You asking the question of why we’re upset about Amy Guiterrez points that out pretty clearly. Don’t take it as me being angry with you for it, because I am not angry with you.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What "Most" people don't care about
never stopped the “Some” here.
Your wet…owick’s hot. Let it all hang out.
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose I’ll start with the scourge that is the sideline reporter position. Men are employed as blabbermouths on the sidelines too. But when you take women as a whole in sports media, the highest concentration of jobs filled by members of the Double X Chromosome Club are in the sideline reporter milieu. It’s the bottom of the food chain with the inanity and general superfluous nature of the job. Nobody likes them. Nobody wants to listen to them. It’s a drag and everyone knows it.
So my problem with the position and the high number of women working as sideline reporters can be summarized via a quote from an episode of The Boondocks: “Is this it? Is this what I got all those ass whoopin’s for?!” In the episode Martin Luther King Jr. did not die, and he woke up in a post 9/11 world observing his culture and his people gone completely to shit, beside himself by the horrid nightmare he has to face, and I feel the same way when I look at other women in sports media working in the dregs. Is that truly it? This is the best we can do?
We should be striving for more, striving for better things. Lesley Visser was the first woman to broadcast in the booth on a Monday Night Football broadcast. Susan Slusser of the SF Chronicle is a member of the Baseball Writers’ Association of America. These are the positions we should be filling. These opportunities are the ones given to us when the first women dealt with scads of sexism, abuse, and other indignities in the 1970s and 1980s for just doing their jobs. They went through hell because they loved the trade, and they gave future generations of sports-loving, gifted ladies a chance to become even better than they were just by standing up and saying, “I’m here, now answer my goddamn questions and keep your penis out of this.”
And we thank those women by reporting on inane bullshit and smiling like vapid twats on camera. Congratulations!
I mean, maybe I’m a mutant because I’m the Type A personality from hell and I must be better than everyone at everything and my ego is humongous thus I have too much ambition for my own good, but come on. We can be better than the cards we are dealt. It will always be difficult for women in the business. But nothing worth having comes easy.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of this
Basically, I think a lot of places still have the same things Susan Fornoff faced trying to cover the A’s 20 years ago. Professional sports is male dominated and often very sexist toward women.
Some have done a great job of breaking down some of the barriers, Susan Slusser among them, but when TV stations go for the bimbos that look good and don’t really know a whole lot, it just makes it harder for the people who really do know all the small things to break in without being looked at like some blight just because they have a pair of boobs.
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by Flashfire on Sep 10, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree with anything you say, although I think you might be off base in thinking of her job in journalistic terms. IMO, it’s more of a “media personality” job than sportswriter. I’d say her job is more in common with Renel than Baggs.
My point was that the personal attacks people throw at her are kinda lame.
I see her job as pretty thankless; you’re either talking to players/coaches who don’t want to talk to you, in the stands with fans who just want to mug for the camera, or shilling for some business interest like “Build A Bear”…all while trying to look like it’s fun. I don’t think Amy G is particularly great, but I have a tough time imagining anyone doing much with that role.
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Sep 10, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that it’s off base to think of the job in journalistic terms. I think the job itself is clearly outside those lines, but in terms of a career arc, I think it’s a legitimate problem that women in sports media and journalism are being pushed to these liminal areas almost as a requisite step in the process that so visibly doesn’t exist for men.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see more women striving to be the Andy Baggarly type in this scenario. My rant up there was born from the anger I feel that I am cast in the Baggarly mold and I see almost no other female around me going for it or doing it. I’m angry that too many women accept the shitty “sports media personality” job and don’t even try for more or better.
But I will level with you on the personal attacks front. Sometimes I feel like I should knock it off and just call a truce with her and her type, because we’re all the same and we should stick together like some garbled rhetoric from Thelma and Louise. See, I have a heart…sometimes.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 10, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, I think they’re two different career paths. I can’t imagine Slusser, Gay or Knapp wanting that job.
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Sep 10, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We understand that, but I'm not sure the unwashed masses do.
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by Flashfire on Sep 10, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't seem like it's that tough
Just showing a passion for the game would be a great start. Amy G strikes me as someone who couldn’t tell you the difference between a tailing fastball and a cutter. I’m no a journalist, but I can think of a million questions I’d ask the players or Kruk and Kuip. She just seems to me like someone trying to get into broadcast TV and her looks landed her this job.
by Change Up on Sep 10, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the intruptions in the game to bring us A) inane fluff or B) a manager/coach/player spouting three cliche’s before walking into the clubhouse/lockerroom.
It’s not Amy G. so much (though I do not think she’s very good at her job…she lakes baseball knowledge and her “how did it feel” questions make me want to scream) it’s just the stupidity of the position. Until we get one good quote from any sports figure from a sideline reporter, I say can the whole bunch of them.
by tyrannoman on Sep 10, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't she the same nitwit...
…who interviewed Alex Hinshaw and after he said something about the sprinklers coming on (I think) being “weird” she said something like, “About as weird as the way you wear your hat,” or something?
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by Flashfire on Sep 10, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I already posted something about this
Old news dude, the season is almost over. Just pray during the offseason that one of Sabean’s big acquisitions will be a new sportscaster.
by FutureGiantsGm24 on Sep 10, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Amy G is so much better than Cammy, so I can deal.
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Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Sep 10, 2008 7:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Amy
Get over her whiney voice…she does the work…popping up in different ballpark spots, grabbing the players after the game…All you need to do in those spots is set the players up, ask the simple ?‘s, get out of Dodge…She’s so much better than the gal there before…used to work at KNBR…
by dnajms on Sep 10, 2008 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If we have to have a sideline reporter, why can’t it be someone hot…if they don’t have enough knowledge? Along those lines, whatever happened to Lisa Guerrero?

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Sep 11, 2008 12:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll take one of those
And a Malou sister
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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 11, 2008 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matty, Mesus and Melipe?
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Sep 11, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about the Nubla sisters?
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Sep 11, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Semi-OT and not marked as such.
Suspend.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
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