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Offseason Target: Left-handed Power (SPLASH!)

Ever since Bonds left, there is something missing at AT&T. The electricity is gone (sans a Tim Lincecum double-digit K effort). Brian Sabean needs to look for the kind of power that can reach McCovey Cove because, let's face it, it one of the reasons the Giants and AT&T are so sick! So, here's a quick rundown of our best options.

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In-House Options

Pablo Sandoval

He should see plenty of PT in 2009 as the Giants youngest ML ready offensive prospect. He's hit 34 homeruns in his professional career (33 MiLB, 1 MLB), but he's only 22. Overall he's a good hitter, but probably not a likely 40+ HR threat.

Travis Ishikawa

At 24, Ishi is experiencing a resurgence (Thank God, literally), but at most he projects as a 20 HR longshot in the spacious confines of AT&T.

John Bowker

Same deal here...Bowker is turning his career around, but his ceiling is still too low to expect consistent water shots.

Free Agency

(Keep in mind for each of these options, we'll be forfeiting at least one 1st round pick...not exactly an ideal scenario for a rebuilding team with a history of Free Agent blunders)

Adam Dunn, Diamondbacks 1B/LF

Incredible power and patience combination from the left side of the plate (2nd in MLB w/ .572 SLG against RHP). Easily has the strength to reach the kayaks (once offered a scholarship for football at Univ. of Texas). Unfortunately, his asking price will likely reach upwards of $15-17 million per year for 5+ years. Add that to his prolific strikeout numbers and the thought of our draft pick going to the D'Bags and you've got a pretty unattractive option.

Mark Teixeira, Angels 1B

Much more attractive. A gold-glove winner at 1B, a switch hitter at the plate, and a top 50 all-time OPS. Downsides include just 1 season of 40 HRs or more, a possibility of paying $20+ million a year and signing a long contract that will clog up 1st base for the rest of our organization (bad for Ishi, Pablo, Angel Villalona).

Trade Targets

It will be an busy offseason for Brian Sabean. He'll try to keep his job and impress new ownership. The most likely scenario involves trading lefty K artist Jonathan Sanchez for infield power. Less likely scenarios include dangling Matt Cain, Tim Alderson, Sergio Romo, Brian Wilson, or Jesse English (IMO, Lincecum and Bumgarner are untouchable). Here's a few lefty bats that might look good in Black and Orange:

Aubrey Huff, Orioles 3B

This subject of trade rumors has the MLB's highest SLG against RHP at .632 and a price tag of $8 million for '09. The Orioles are said to be preparing for a run at Mark Teixeira, so they may look to unload Melvin Mora and Huff to clear room.

Rick Ankiel, Cardinals OF

A personal favorite. He's had some injury issues this year, but what hurts him now helps lower his trade value and makes him easier to get. He'll be a free agent after '09 and he's young and athletic enough where the Giants might consider re-signing him. He's got an easy lefty stroke (.548 SLG vs. RHP) that could be reaching the bay for years to come. The Cardinals have a lot of OF depth and have injury problems in their aging rotation.

Jeremy Hermida, Marlins OF

Only 24 years old, this Florida outfielder has shown the ability to produce in a big ball park. He'll come cheaper than Ankiel, but he is also about to enter his abritation eligibility (expect a $4 million salary in '09, continuing to escalate into the future).

The Draft

Projecting the draft is impossible, especially 10 months out. But I'll do it anyway! Here's a name to remember:

Dustin Ackley, Norht Carolina 1B

Two straight seasons with an OPS over 1.000 at UNC. As a freshman, he swung so hard he broke his aluminum bat when it hit the ball. The ball then left the park for a Grand Slam.

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I like Chris Davis of Texas a lot as a trade target. I don’t think Texas would be keen on moving him, though.

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by Anticon23 on Sep 1, 2008 6:08 PM PDT   0 recs

if we could somehow pry Davis and Elvis Andrus for Cain+, that would be awesome

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by CB30 on Sep 1, 2008 9:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I can see the allure. But there are drawbacks. Davis might not stay at third and he has pretty bad home/away splits. Those splits probably mean he is getting a fair amount of help from his home ballpark. He probably will never hit for high average. But if he keeps mashing like he has been, that’s probably okay. I just wish he would walk more (or I would if he were a Giant).

Also, Cain is horrible (which means awesome).

In the end, I’d probably not make that trade. This is okay considering I doubt Texas makes that trade too.

Only 835 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Sep 1, 2008 9:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

it wouldn't be Cain+

I think it’d be more along the lines of Davis + Andrus + Harrison for Cain, and I think that’s pretty freaking close.

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by iamawesomer on Sep 1, 2008 10:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

by + I of course meant Zito and Walker

"I think I was the best player I ever saw"
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by CB30 on Sep 1, 2008 10:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s ok to not have a 40 HR plus hitter if you have a bunch of 20 HR hitters. There’s no reason they won’t someday have that if they show patience. I’d rather wait for Nate, Bowker, Ishi, Posey, Sandoval, Angel etc. then start to trade our good young pitchers in an attempt to acquire some power. I know you start to get desperate when you look at the way they’ve played the last four days, but there’s going to be some rough patches along the way. The worst mistake they can make is to shift course and start to panic.

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by rxmeister on Sep 1, 2008 6:46 PM PDT   0 recs

Shifting course is essential when the last time you used your 1st pick in the 1st round before Buster Posey was Tony Torcato almost a decade ago. This organization has to look outside itself for power because we haven’t drafted any in 10 years.

We can’t really afford to have all of these pitchers as starters anyway with only five spots in the rotation for more than 5 pitchers (Tim, Matt, Sanchez, Zito, Alderson, Bumgarner, English).

by #75HeWhoMustNotBeNamed on Sep 1, 2008 7:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

first, do yourself a favor and review the giants draft history. Either you didn’t type what you wanted, or don’t know what you are talking about. Now if you mean using a 1st pick in the 1st round on a non-pitcher, then you’re doing better (but even that is incorrect). It is true that the giants haven’t drafted power (in the first round) for some time, but they have signed IFA’s with pop. But here is the crucial question: why sign a dunn or a tex, or trade for some of the people named this year? Next year will have some decent trade candidates, and FA’s, and the Giants will have a better idea of what they have? I say this with one proviso: If they can get something good for Sanchez, do it.

Alderson, Bumgarner and English are too far away to start moving people for them, and the giants won’t be competing next year anyway.

I will also say that I think Bhaakon is a little off in saying that rx has over estimated the players named. Posey is a sure bet to get to 15 per, and stands a decent chance at being in the 15-25 range. Sandoval seems quite capable of getting 20 something + (many in baseball think so, some of the BA folks included), Lewis stands something of chance to get in the 15-20 range, too. Villalona, while some time away, has immense power (not batting practice power either: in game situations he’s hit fastballs and breaking balls out, to both fields; the question is whether he can put it all together and be dominant not whether the power can manifest in game situations).

by haverecords on Sep 1, 2008 8:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, I did mean “1st pick in the 1st round on a non-pitcher” and I’m pretty sure that’s correct. But the overall point is we had absolutely no focus on developing power in our farm system.

0 solid offensive prospects since Matt Williams and Will Clark

by #75HeWhoMustNotBeNamed on Sep 1, 2008 11:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you've overestimated the qualifty of our in-house talent

Sure, all the players you’ve mentioned have the raw power t put on a show in batting practice, but there’s more to home runs than just hitting the ball a long way. They all got questionable contact ability, or pitch selection, or both. Power is often the last tool to develop. Many patient, high average players develop pop as they mature. I don’t think it works the other way around nearly so often.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Sep 1, 2008 7:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, its a longshot for any of the prospects coming up to have a shot at 20 hrs a year except Sandoval and Villalona

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by CB30 on Sep 1, 2008 9:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

high average players develop pop as they mature

Like if Schierholtz does some maturing aged 25-27 playing up in SF rather than in Fresno.
oh wait. let me read what you typed again:

Many patient, high average players

Still he cold get patient…..

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Sep 1, 2008 11:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Giants only have 1 first round pick next year and, as it will certainly be in the Top 15, it can’t be forfeited no matter who they sign.

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Sep 1, 2008 7:25 PM PDT   0 recs

top ten most definately, and I think we’ll see another hitter drafted

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by CB30 on Sep 1, 2008 9:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We will just have our 2nd round pick forfeited, if we sign a Type A guy like Tex

by silentearth36 on Sep 1, 2008 10:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why left handed power??

I think right handed power will work just fine. No left handed power hitter will come to SF. No way. The only way we will procure such talent is through the draft.

Ellis Burks, where have you gone???

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by stevieg on Sep 1, 2008 8:41 PM PDT   0 recs

I agree

Also, most of the Giants MLB-ready hitting prospects bat left-handed. Lewis, Sandoval, Schierholtz, Bowker, Ishikawa, all lefties.

Granted, they’ve all got serious bugaboos, but it’s not like the Giants are in dire need of a left-handed stick. At this point, ANY power hitter would be an improvement, whichever side he hits from.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Sep 1, 2008 9:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Think Sabes will sign Burks? Is Jeff Kent a FA this offseason?

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Sep 1, 2008 11:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No way the Marlins move Hermida. He has huge potential that hasn’t been even close to realized yet. That would be selling very very low. And the Cards aren’t trading Ankiel, either. And on top of that, he’s a friggin CF. Last I checked you can only have one in at a time. And no thanks to Aubrey Huff. Isn’t he kinda old?

by boonitez on Sep 1, 2008 8:58 PM PDT   0 recs

I don’t think Huff is a horrible idea. I wish he didn’t have such a sissy first name.

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by The Thrill on Sep 1, 2008 9:28 PM PDT   0 recs

Huff isn’t terrible but not worth trading for.

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by Natto on Sep 1, 2008 9:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Less likely scenarios include dangling Matt Cain, Tim Alderson, Sergio Romo, Brian Wilson, or Jesse English (IMO, Lincecum and Bumgarner are untouchable).

-I don’t see the point in trading Wilson, when he seems to have finally found his role and his skill. It fills a hole that the Giants have been missing since trading Nathan and losing Nenn.
-I don’t understand the logic that Bumgarner is untouchable but Alderson is not. Alderson and Bumgarner are having an outstanding season, putting up ridiculous numbers. Alderson is at High A San Jose, while Bum is at Low A Augusta. What makes either one more available than the other when they were both drafted last year?

by silentearth36 on Sep 1, 2008 10:37 PM PDT   0 recs

Forgot with Wilson— Who would then step in to the closing role if Wilson was moved?

by silentearth36 on Sep 1, 2008 10:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Walker or Zito

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by The Thrill on Sep 2, 2008 8:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACEā„¢ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Sep 2, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I simply don’t understand the idea that Bumgarner is untouchable in any scenario in which Matt Cain is trade bait.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Sep 1, 2008 10:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

"I can't describe how excited I am to be a Giant." Music to the ears of this excited parent of Buster Posey!

by GiantsFanInExile on Sep 2, 2008 11:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why is Bumgarner more untradeable than Alderson?

A few reasons: He’s lefthanded, younger and a better strikeout pitcher:

k/bb/hr of 164/21(!!)/3 in 141.2 innings – might be good enough to call him the best pitching prospect in baseball

But back to the point of the whole post:

DOESNT ANYONE MISS SPLASH HITS! It’s one of the coolest things in sports!

by #75HeWhoMustNotBeNamed on Sep 1, 2008 11:41 PM PDT   0 recs

I mean, they were cool I guess, but to base our teams offensive philosophy around getting more splash hits sounds kind of retarded to me.

by Dickdrivethiscar on Sep 2, 2008 12:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, actions which indisputably will put runs on the board and butts in the seat, those are things only a retard would want…

Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below.500

by S.F. Giangst on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not indisputable

Eugenio Velez hit one into the water a few games back…

It was foul, of course.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 2, 2008 7:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

THIS

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 2, 2008 7:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I miss winning.

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by The Thrill on Sep 2, 2008 8:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well...

To get splash hits back we could just put a swimming pool in center field.

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by WalrusMan on Sep 2, 2008 9:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How about a water hazard

At SS and 2b.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Sep 2, 2008 9:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How about having Tyler Walker do a cannonball into the cove.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Sep 5, 2008 11:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

DRAFT ACKLEY

Never heard of him until just now but after seeing that video, I’m sold. Do you know if he’s projected as a No. 1 overall, 1-5 or mid first-rounder? Or has he even expressed an interest in leaving UNC and entering the draft next year? Either way the Giants figure to have a 3-7 draft pick (assuming we don’t do something dumb like overpay Dunn or Teixeira) so a power-hitting left-handed bat would be the last piece of the puzzle for a World Series threepeat in 2010-2012.

by IVSPORT on Sep 2, 2008 10:05 AM PDT   0 recs

Even if we do something dumb like overpay Dunn or Teixeira..

We will have the same 3-7 draft pick. Unless we slip to above the 15th overall pick (I doubt and hope not) then our first round pick is protected.

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by WalrusMan on Sep 2, 2008 2:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ackley… nickname “Eggs”?

Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
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by S.F. Giangst on Sep 3, 2008 7:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pass on Huff

Having a great year, but why bye a vet at peak value?

by NeifiChicken on Sep 2, 2008 11:01 AM PDT   0 recs

Depends on the price. The O’s may move him for salary relief, and no real prospects. It that scenario, it might be worthwhile to look at him.

by tyrannoman on Sep 3, 2008 8:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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