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Callis on Posey via BDD: Posey won't sign until one hour of the Deadline

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Hey guys, thought you'd be interested in this.

BA's Jim Callis appeared on the Baseball Daily Digest podcast, and talked a bit about Posey.  The short of it is that he thinks that Posey, as well as the majority of the first round picks, won't sign until the deadline, and probably not until the last hour.

He does a very good breakdown as far as what the deadline does for the Draft, and why players (and agents) wait, and should help keep some people calm as we fall within five days of the deadline.  His implied game of chicken between the agents of Posey and Alvarez is interesting.

He does also note that he thinks the Posey 'demands' pre-draft weren't real, and were a failed attempt to push Posey down to the teams that would pay more.

Check it out.  Callis comes on around 18:00, and the host asks him about Posey at about 27:40.  That said, check out the whole of Callis' interview, especially the question before the Posey one, as Callis makes some good points about why compensation picks early, if they happen, aren't worth while.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily (8/9 show)

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good lookin’ out.

by haverecords on Aug 10, 2008 12:24 AM PDT   0 recs

Callis

He really seems to know his stuff, but boy is he ever difficult to listen to. Between starting a sentence and dumping literally a shit load of “you knows” ( No! I don’t know Callis, thats why I’m waiting endlessly for you to get to the effing point!) into his response. It wasn’t easy to wade through that inarticulate crap. If he were to get a copy of his interview and really listen and evaluate his air time, he would be a lot more effective and interesting.
But thank you Brute for the sound bite. Appreciate it.

by Buzzword on Aug 10, 2008 5:53 AM PDT   0 recs

I’d prefer to spend the next five days in full panic mode.

Adoptive father of howtheyscored. The beatings will begin momentarily.

by Goofus on Aug 10, 2008 10:51 AM PDT   0 recs

BRIGHT LIGHTS! LOUD NOISES!

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 10, 2008 11:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

so posey misses out on a season of development

i dont see how this helps him…i think he is getting bad advice from his agent…

by bacci40 on Aug 10, 2008 11:57 AM PDT   0 recs

This guy’s a dick.

yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!

by satyricrash on Aug 10, 2008 11:58 AM PDT   0 recs

Posey or Callis?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 10, 2008 11:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Van Dyke.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2008 12:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pole.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 10, 2008 12:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Posey, (I think). If he’s playing games like this, as bacci just pointed out, for a few extra in change, damn, doesn’t paint a very positive picture of you. You are basically saying to your future employer that you are above the game before you even take the field. He’s haggling over a bonus. Hey Buster, if you’re good, you’re going to make that extra dough and millions upon millions more.

yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!

by satyricrash on Aug 10, 2008 12:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well yeah he is being sort of a butthead.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 10, 2008 12:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Doesn’t it say that “a majority of the first round picks” are playing this same game? Sounds more like business-as-usual to me than TOTAL DICK.

He’s haggling over a bonus. Hey Buster, if you’re good, you’re going to make that extra dough and millions upon millions more.

Which is why he HAS to haggle. I’m sure him or his agents know as well as anybody that he MIGHT NOT be that good, and that he might not ever get that bonus money. He should try to get it now, because there’s a serious chance that he’ll never see it if he doesn’t. Again, I don’t see that as being a dick. I just see that as being intelligent about your finances.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2008 12:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

“he or his agents”

My bad.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2008 12:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Then they’re all dicks. I change my stance, all athletes are dicks used to getting their way, verses billionaire who are also used to getting their way, while the fan and follower of the sport is incidental.

yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!

by satyricrash on Aug 10, 2008 12:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No, you know what, I retract my retaction—if he’s literally waiting until the last hour, he is a dick.

yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!

by satyricrash on Aug 10, 2008 12:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Buster could sign tomorrow, then have a catastrophic collision at the plate in his first game and end his career. It only makes sense for him to get as much $ upfront as he can.

by tyrannoman on Aug 11, 2008 10:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I completely disagree. This is one of the few times in Posey’s career that he will have at least some control over his pay and incentives. Waiting a few months to sign to ensure you get the best deal possible is entirely reasonable.

I don’t think he’s hurting his development at all either, assuming he’s staying in baseball shape. Other players who signed in August last year are doing just fine in 2008.

by Dan from NM on Aug 10, 2008 12:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 10, 2008 12:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

To: Satyricrash

Take an economics course.

by slcgiant on Aug 10, 2008 1:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t think his comments were borne out of some ignorance for economics. I think his comments were borne out of a love for the game. I can understand the notion. The economics of the sports has spoiled the game in certain ways.

Only 862 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Aug 10, 2008 1:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

BS

I’m sorry, none of us expect to take less for the “love of work”. People who are bitter about atheletes making money need to get over themselves.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Aug 10, 2008 1:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You are grossly over-simplifying this issue. I was just commenting on where his comments probably came from. I don’t think he or I said enough to really formulate a counter-argument.

Only 862 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Aug 10, 2008 2:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You are right, dude. Posey is going to be paid what the market and the SF Giants are willing to pay him, just like anyone else in any other business. The notion that he is going to hold out until the last hour is making a statement that I find offensive. He’s playing not-so-transparent mind games. It’s like if he does sign, Brian Sabean pays him in rolled pennies. Like waiting until the final moment, it means nothing, other than to show the other party that they are petty.

yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!

by satyricrash on Aug 10, 2008 2:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Posey is going to be paid what the market and the SF Giants are willing to pay him…

And they’d be “willing to pay him” a whole hell of a lot less if he wasn’t willing to follow what appear to be pretty standard negotiating procedures. If Posey says to the Giants “Hey guys, let’s get this done as fast as possible!” then the Giants are going to say “okay, we’ll sign you today if you $800,000 and wear a tutu in rookie ball.” I’d be willing to bet that almost all of this behavior is dictated by the player’s agent, who has likely been a part of enough contract negotiations to know what they have to ask a player to do in order to create the most leverage in a negotiation.

So I’d imagine that if you want to call somebody a dick, you should call the agent a dick. Posey isn’t doing anything out of the ordinary. He’s not doing anything disrespectful. He’s just doing what is the standard for a person in his situation to do to make the most out of an extremely uncertain future.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2008 3:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

One thing I completely agree with Sabean is that instituting the Aug. 15th deadline was a mistake. They should have iether left it the way it was (with the first day of college being a defacto deadline) or made it really really short (one month after the draft date).

It’s a truism of business that mid-term deadlines take on a life of their own. Deliverables that could easily be handed over two weeks will scramble desparately last minute to meet a two month deadline. If a date is inserted into CBA negotiations, then you can be sure that no serious negotiating will take place until about 48 hours prior to that date. The Aug. 15th deadline creates a scenario where all the agents and GMs will play chicken with each other until that date. At some point in the next few years they’ll change it to somewhere around July 15th, but until then, you can expect the vast majority of Top 15 picks to announce their signings on the deadline date itself.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Aug 10, 2008 8:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

why would July 15th be a better deadline?

It would just lead to the same process that you describe occurring one month earlier. We are still only talking about 2 months from the day of draft until the signing deadline, that is not a whole lot of time. As Callis says in his interview almost everybody in baseball agrees that the earlier deadline is a positive change. I think teams needs to just accept the fact that high bonus guys are not going to sign until August 15th and adjust their operating procedures accordingly.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 11, 2008 10:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Because there’s still enough left of the minor league season at that point to be a productive start for the new draftees. By Aug. 15th there’s only two weeks left. You throw in your physical, your meet and greet at AT&T, and the season’s effectively lost. You’re waiting for the Instructional League to even get in reps.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Aug 11, 2008 6:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

People who are bitter about atheletes making money need to get over themselves.

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!

by satyricrash on Aug 10, 2008 2:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You need to spend more time at this site then

The ridiculosity is just getting started.

by Salemicus on Aug 10, 2008 3:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Huh?

I agree with Aadik. Who cares what Buster Posey makes? I hope he soaks the Giants for all he can get and likewise I hope Buster becomes a hall of famer but that hardly affects my enjoyment of the sport.

Furthermore, I love baseball as much as anyone but I don’t see how Posey holding out until August 15 really ruins my enjoyment or seriously impairs his maturation. Weiters seems to be doing just fine.

by slcgiant on Aug 10, 2008 4:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The fans pay the money, someone has to get it. Better the athletes than the owners. If you don’t like it, then stop giving them money.

by rotorueter on Aug 10, 2008 6:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Spoiled

The economics of the sports has spoiled the game in certain ways

More spoiled than when owners literally owned players for their careers and could “re-sign” them one year at a time in perpetuity?

Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com

by leftymalo on Aug 10, 2008 5:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

you’re so wrong man, back then guys played FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME!

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 10, 2008 6:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Like Kevin Costner.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2008 6:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

exactly

you think Kevin Costner negotiates for a high salary? No way, Kevin signs for the first offer, that’s how much he LOVES THE GAME.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 10, 2008 6:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All his dreams are of that baseball field.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.

by groug on Aug 10, 2008 7:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear he’s seeing a shrink for that…

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 10, 2008 10:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Reserve Clause

bring it back…

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 10, 2008 9:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You misunderstand me

This happens when one formulates counter-arguments against a position that is barely even there.

The economics of the game has always spoiled the game in certain ways. They are different ways now than the period you speak of. I am not a fan of the owners or the players when it comes to the economics of the game. I have no horse in that race. What I love is the game. The economics of the sport is not good for the pureness of the game. Plain and simple.

I understand, however, that there is no separating the two. This does not mean that I can’t or shouldn’t bemoan the ways in which economics has spoiled certain aspects of the game that I love.

I absolutely hate free agency. But it’s a much fairer system than what existed before. Personally, I feel that MLB should have a merit based pay system. I get that this will never happen and I get that there are certain positives involved with free agency. This doesn’t mean I can’t hate it. In a perfect world teams would not have to worry about a player that they developed bolting for another team.

There are other aspects of the economics of the game that I hate too. I am allowed to. I love the game. I hate the economics. I don’t see why you (or anybody else) would have a problem with that.

Only 862 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Aug 10, 2008 9:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

On the other hand

the economics is the only thing that allows you, me, the fan to watch and enjoy the game, or for such a thing a professional sport to exist.

Frankly, I’m unenthusiastic on any argument that promotes the “purity” of something, because, being an abstraction, it artificially removes all the material forces that have worked to create the thing you love in the first place. I also tend to find them just a vaguely rationalized form of the nostalgic impulse, which while an enjoyable pasttime in moderation, tends to drive too much public comment in this society for my taste.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Aug 11, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have no sympathy for anybody over the age of 14 who talks about the “purity” of anything. Sorry folks, it is a mean world out there.

Personally, I find the economics and business of sports to be interesting storylines to follow. Rather than complaining about the lack of purity you should embrace the economics and follow it for fun.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 11, 2008 10:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s a good thing I don’t need your sympathy.

And I neither should nor should not embrace the economics and follow it for fun.

I follow free-agency and draft signings and international scouting, etc because those things affect my team. I do not grit my teeth every time somebody signs a free agent contract. This issue does not affect me that much.

I do, however, get annoyed at things such as Rick Porcello falling all the way to the Tigers and the payrolls of both the Marlins and the Yankees. I accept that they are part of the game but I also feel that we can and should make them better.

Of course, that is a different issue.

Only 857 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Aug 11, 2008 2:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Basically what you said can be boiled down to this sentence from my post
I understand, however, that there is no separating the two.

Without us paying the owners who then pay the players there is no professional baseball league. Yes. I understand this.

This does not mean, however, that if economics was removed from the equation that the sport wouldn’t be better. It most certainly would. I don’t see what is wrong with holding this position but still understanding that economics will never be removed from the game.

Yes, it’s nostalgic. This is necessarily a bad thing? Baseball, in general, is a rather nostalgic sport. How is it different being nostalgic about the purity of baseball as opposed to being nostalgic about the 1993 or 2000 or 2002 season? How is it different to wish that economics was magically not part of the game as opposed to wishing to see Barry Bonds play again? Neither are going to happen, yet we wish nonetheless.

I am allowed to see a better way to play the game, even if it has zero chance of ever happening. Even if it is unrealistic.

I personally don’t see why you (or lefty malo or aadik or FluLikeSysmptoms) care so much. If I was complaining about the economics of the game regularly and/or if I was pretending that it would be possible to remove the economics of the sport then I can understand. However, I was literally dragged into this discussion. I don’t discuss the ways that economics has spoiled baseball (which is still very enjoyable even with the economics) very often precisely because there is nothing that can ever be done about it.

I love the game, as it is, warts and all. Just like I love my species, warts and all. This does not mean there aren’t warts there.

Only 857 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Aug 11, 2008 2:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Also

I just want to clarify that I do not agree with satyricrash’s labeling of either Posey or his agent as dicks. The sole purpose of my original comment was to say where I believed his comments were coming from and that I understood the notion; not that I agreed with the specific comments.

Only 857 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Aug 11, 2008 2:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

fwiw

I share your assessment. I wish economics could be divorced from baseball.

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Aug 12, 2008 1:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They tried to reach a settlement but economics wanted the kids so it’s back to court.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 12, 2008 6:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’ll lob them in there, you keep knocking them out of the park.

: )

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Aug 12, 2008 8:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t know that I would say I particularly care or don’t care. I was just engaging in a conversation. You are right to point out the “no separating the two” comment. I didn’t see it the first time. That said, I do have to disagree with two of your statements above. 1) You weren’t “literally” dragged into the discussion unless there’s been some kind of Cronenburgian outbreak around this site. 2) Pretty clearly you don’t love it “warts and all” because it’s exactly the wart you’re saying you wish didn’t exist. Loving the warts is more along the lines of what flu was suggesting above. I’d say that your perspective is slightly more along the lines of “you’re perfect, please change.”

That said, you’re perfectly right that there’s nothing wrong with your perspective and it’s absolutely yours to keep and enjoy and indulge in, just as mine is mine.

Cheers and enjoy.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Aug 11, 2008 3:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

1) You weren’t "literally" dragged into the discussion unless there’s been some kind of Cronenburgian outbreak around this site.

You should have seen the beefy guy who reached out of my computer screen and pulled into this conversation.

Pretty clearly you don’t love it "warts and all" because it’s exactly the wart you’re saying you wish didn’t exist. Loving the warts is more along the lines of what flu was suggesting above.

I don’t love the warts. I love the game even with the warts.

That said, you’re perfectly right that there’s nothing wrong with your perspective and it’s absolutely yours to keep and enjoy and indulge in, just as mine is mine.

Screw that, let’s argue some more. :p

Only 857 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Aug 11, 2008 3:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No thank you, sir.

yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!

by satyricrash on Aug 10, 2008 2:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

"Take an economics course."

Good one.

Better yet, take a negotiations course.

Adoptive parental unit of Kevin "Most Spectacular Pitcher" Pucetas.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 11, 2008 8:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A discourse course!

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 11, 2008 9:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course!

Adoptive father of howtheyscored. The beatings will begin momentarily.

by Goofus on Aug 11, 2008 9:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

of course, of course

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by delorean on Aug 11, 2008 9:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A horse, of course!

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by BruteSentiment on Aug 11, 2008 1:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tell that to Jamarcus Russell

Great move he did, costing himself a year of play

SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!

by BruteSentiment on Aug 10, 2008 7:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

you think Mark Prior regrets negotiating that $10 million contract coming out of the draft?

sometimes things don’t go a kid’s way, you had better get as much money as you can on your first contract, who knows what will happen after that.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 10, 2008 7:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No...

...but I bet the Cubs do.

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by BruteSentiment on Aug 11, 2008 1:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t see how taking the field for that Raiders team was going to help develop him any. If he was really really smart he would have found some way to delay the negotiations so long as to avoid him ever taking the field while Al Davis is still alive and running the organization, because there’s just no way his career isn’t going to suffer major damage from having to learn the NFL under current Raiders circumstances.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Aug 10, 2008 8:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

In all seriousness....

Athletes have a completely different thought process when it comes to contracts than what we “fans” view. Athletes like Posey have a huge chip to play and once they play it, they know they will have a contract that will pay them very well for the time they have it. What it means to them though, is that they have to work their ass off to get the next contract. These athletes can’t afford to get wrapped up in thinking about the next payday until it is upon them. These guys have to focus on the here-and-now and play the game or risk getting played themselves. As much as we think these players do have egos and border on being prima-donnas, they either focus and finish or they risk not lasting very long in what they hope will be a bountiful career.

it's always noonan somewhere

by sectionop92 on Aug 10, 2008 9:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed. This signing bonus is his one big payday until he reaches his MLB arb years and then FA. Those days might never come if he (Goofus forbid) gets hurt or just doesn’t pan out. I don’t blame him at all for trying to reach the high-hanging fruit.

Adoptive father of howtheyscored. The beatings will begin momentarily.

by Goofus on Aug 11, 2008 9:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Now I can't get this scene out of my head:

Setting: Whitecastle Burgers

Players: Brian Sabean, Buster Posey

Scene: Brian Sabean has just ordered 50 Whitecastle burgers only to realize that he doesn’t have any money with him. Buster Posey walks up behind him.

-

Buster Posey: Here, let me pay for that.

Brian Sabean: What are you doing here?

Buster Posey: Uh… paying for your meal.

Brian Sabean: But you held out until the last hour before the signing deadline?

Buster Posey: Yeah, and that was a dick move on my part. That’s why I’m paying for your burgers.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2008 8:55 PM PDT   0 recs

Did he make some love stains in the backseat of Sabean’s car?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 10, 2008 9:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Last page of the contract.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2008 9:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe he can pay for Zito’s pie at Denny’s too!

Adoptive father of howtheyscored. The beatings will begin momentarily.

by Goofus on Aug 11, 2008 9:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have no problem with players holding out for the best deal, that’s their right, as it is for all of us in our careers. I wish the signing deadline was brought forward though, then the negotiations & bargaining could get finished sooner & the players could get out there playing for their organisations.

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by GiantFan on Aug 12, 2008 7:11 AM PDT   0 recs

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