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Fire Bruce Bochy and do it now!!

I am so sick and tired of telling the Giants to do this and they don't listen. Is Brian Sabean deaf or what?? Can he read?? Why doesn't he take my phone calls and answer my letters?? The latest comments from this big headed sack of shit  that we have for a manager that have angered me concern Pablo Sandoval and Nate Schierholtz. His plans for Pablo next year?? Backup catcher and fill in at first and third. Great. The best young stud we have seen up here in years, and Brucie is going to make him a utility guy. The only options for Sandoval should be everyday catcher if Bengie is traded or everyday third baseman if he shows he can play there. He has to be in the lineup all the time!! The second comment was about Nate Schierholtz. When asked if he'll join the team on Sept 1, Bochy said yes but said he wouldn't play much. Why?? "Because we already have a great rightfielder!!" WTF?? First of all, Randy Winn isn't great. Second of all, you're not a contender, and September is about playing your kids and finding out about them. This idiot has no concept of the word "rebuilding," and simply should not be the manager of a team that is attempting to do so. All he is going to do is delay the maturation of the kids, or even ruin it outright. So far this year, although I was tough on Sabean early, I now think he gets it, and it's obvious that our new leader Neukom gets it too. Only one moron doesn't, and he needs to go. If Sabean and Neukom like him so much as a person they don't have the balls to do it, give me the phone and I'll do it for them. "You're fired, you idiot!!" Oh, I forgot. The big empty was born in France and has proven he doesn't understand English.  "vous etes renvoyes, vous l'idiot!!"

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1) If Sandoval is playing 1B against lefties, spelling Molina at catcher 1-2 times a week, and playing 3rd 1-2 times a week, he should be getting at least 5 starts a week. So, it might not be too bad, although he will have to deal with playing 3 positions and no one is really sure how he’ll do at third.

2) Randy Winn is fairly under appreciated, myself included, but he’s a very good player. His defense in right is amazing and he’s part of one of the best defensive outfields in all of baseball – something the pitchers should really appreciate. He has one of those skillsets where everything is solid (except his defense) and nothing is weak. It’s never something pretty, but it’s very valuable. At this point, 1 month of Nate in the bigs won’t change much and he hasn’t been that great in Fresno anyways.

All that said, I completely agree that Bochy should be fired and I don’t think you’ll find many people disagreeing with that around these parts.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Aug 23, 2008 8:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't Sandoval

be committed to a position, and given the opportunity to learn that position? He needs PAs, he also needs defensive reps.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Aug 23, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a perfect world, yes. If they trade Molina this offseason, I’ll be ecstatic. But it’s not the worst thing in the world to have him only catch 40-50 games next year.

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by marcello on Aug 23, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt he’s ever played more than 80 games behind the dish in one season, and considering how much catchers tend to trail off due to fatigue, I think splitting time between first and catcher is just fine.

Plus I do think it’s a good idea for him to have Molina as a mentor for another season. Molina is likely to net us two picks in 10, so we’d have to get a lot for him in a trade, more than I think anyone is going to give us.

The important thing as far as Sandoval is concerned is to get 500+ PA’s.

As to firing Bochy, I for one certainly disagree. I think he’s done a good job of handling the players he has. According to a study in the Hardball Time’s review he was actually a net positive as a manager. In the end baseball managers do the best with what they have, and let’s face it, the 2008 Giants aren’t exactly brimming with talent.

by Change Up on Aug 23, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd think the fact that Sandoval hasn't played much

as catcher would be a reason why he needs to play more. He’s not going to become a better catcher by playing at other positions.

How will Sandoval work on his D at any position if he doesn’t get enough reps there?

Molina will net 2 picks only if the Giants offer him arby at the end of his contract and he refuses. Given that he will be a 35 year old catcher at that point, it is not unreasonable to consider that he might actually accept arbitration. And I’m not sure what you mean by 2 picks in 10.

Do you have a link to that THT review? I’d like to see it.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Aug 23, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 picks in 10 i think is in 2010.

And what would be bad forcing Molina into a backup position in a year of arbitration? He’d only make around the 6 million mark probably less if his production trails off at the end of the year. He’d still make a good catcher to have around to work with Pablo and the young pitchers.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 23, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

$6M for a 35 year old backup?

Seems a bit much to me.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Aug 23, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

obviously you cannot

count on Molina accepting/refusing arb until after he plays the 2009 season. I think that if he contract was up now, and we offered him arb, he would (rightfully) refuse, thinking he could get another 3 year contract from someone.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Aug 23, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THT

The article is in their season preview book. Can’t link to it because it’s not on the web but it’s free to read at your local Borders or B and N.

My point as to Sandoval is that it would be best if he probably only played 90 or so games at Catcher next season, so as to not to where himself out. I guess ultimately I don’t see him having a problem being an acceptable defender, but his strike zone discipline is comically bad. I’d rather see him focus more on the bat, and more particularly on pitch judgement.

by Change Up on Aug 23, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Winn is NOT a very good player

Randy Winn has decent numbers for the season, but he’s been on fire the last month or so, and the games over the last month have been meaningless. Not that the Giants were ever truly in contention, but back about a month ago when it was a numerical possibility, Randy was hitting about .275 with 5 homeruns. That’s not “very good” numbers for a corner outfielder, it’s below average. Winn is hot now when it doesn’t mean a damn thing, and since there’s a distinct possibility that the decade younger Nate Schierholtz WILL be a power hitting corner outfielder, the Giants certainly have to be looking at him over the last month of the season. Bruce Bochy is dead wrong here, and doesn’t know what the hell he’s been watching all season.

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by rxmeister on Aug 23, 2008 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check the fanshots for a article called Winn Value...

It actually shows that Winn has more value than ManRam….hard to believe, but it may very well be true. Offense isn’t the only thing that counts in baseball.

Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?

by NorCalGiant on Aug 23, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK.... deal!!!!!

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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 24, 2008 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Over the years I’ve gone from a fan who had no use for stats to a fan that has really come to appreciate them. If you can show me stats that tell me Randy Winn is better than Manny Ramirez it could be the impetus for me to go back to my original way of thinking. Once in awhile you have to put down the calculator and turn on the game.

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by rxmeister on Aug 24, 2008 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, let’s shun scientific progress. Realize that all of us, including the people who wrote that article about Randy Winn, watch plenty of games. “Turn on the game” is the laziest, most incorrect thing you could say and shows how ignorant you really are.

Manny’s defense is terrible, as in one of the worst in all of baseball, and Randy is one of the best. You don’t think the difference in those two extremes can make up for the difference in their bats? They are about a 2-3 win difference defensively. That is a lot.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Aug 24, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Go back to your mothers basement!

by xanthan on Aug 24, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awwww, and I was just getting used to that bright light in sky.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Aug 24, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry if I offended you Marcello. You were the one who said I was nuts about the A’s as well and said they would finish over .500, weren’t you?? Maybe when you finally do watch a game, it should be one in which they’re the ones that are playing. By the way, you know what’s really “incorrect and ignorant??” You getting your little pink panties all in a bunch because I made the obvious comment that some stats are meaningless.

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by rxmeister on Aug 24, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t believe I got flagged and modded for calling you ignorant. That is ridiculous. I’m pretty sure you told me “to put down the calculator and turn on the game,” which is basically saying the same thing in different words.

Anyways, I don’t know why I’m arguing with you, it’s a waste of time. Pretty much every intelligent person covering baseball is on my side, so….

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Aug 25, 2008 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you kidding?? My “turn on the calculator” comment was about ten comments below yours, and had nothing to do with you personally. I never attack anyone personally on this board. My comment was in general. And if you had actually understood my comment, you would have seen I wasn’t knocking stats at all, I was just saying I had a problem with stats that would tell me Randy Winn is better than Manny Ramirez. Of course Randy does everything better than Manny except for offense, but the difference in offense is so great it dwarfs all the other differences. By the way, good for them for flagging you!! You could’ve had an intelligent discussion but you chose to name call. I don’t know what “modded” means though. I guess that’s because I’m ignorant.

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by rxmeister on Aug 25, 2008 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just saying I had a problem with stats that would tell me Randy Winn is better than Manny Ramirez. Of course Randy does everything better than Manny except for offense, but the difference in offense is so great it dwarfs all the other differences.

Except, if you actually do the math instead of just assume – you will discover that this is not entirely true.

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by FairweatherFan on Aug 25, 2008 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Manny Ramirez was offered to the Giants for Randy Winn, you think the Giants would take that deal?? I have a funny feeling that they would. If you had Manny on your team would you take Randy Winn back for hm?? No way in hell. Manny Ramirez makes 20 million dollars a season and nobody says he’s overpaid. Randy Winn make 8 million and alot of people knock Sabean for it. I think some people over here are being fooled right now by the fact that Randy Winn is hot. A month ago he was having a poor season, so poor that Sabean couldn’t move him at the deadline.

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by rxmeister on Aug 25, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think some people over here are being fooled right now by the fact that Randy Winn is hot. A month ago he was having a poor season, so poor that Sabean couldn’t move him at the deadline.

Instead of looking only at this year, lets look at the last 5 years:

over the last five years, Manny has averaged 58.5 Batting Runs Above Replacement. Winn has averaged 33. That’s a difference of about 25 runs. If you use bRAA (found here), Manny is worth 40 batting runs above average, while Winn is worth 16. Again a difference of about 25 runs. So yeah, Manny is obviously a much better hitter.

Defensively, Manny is terrible, probably something like 10-15 runs below average. Winn, on the other hand is a very
good fielder, around 10 runs above average. So Manny’s bat is better than Winn’s by about 25 runs, but Winn is worth 20-25 runs more than Manny on defense. Manny might still be a better player, but only by a few runs.

I know it’s counter-intuitive to think that Win is about as good as Ramirez, but you can’t dismiss a study just because the results surprise you. Otherwise we’ll never learn anything new about anything.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Aug 25, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One other thought/point/question?

Does the defensive metrics you point out take into conideration that Winn plays superior defense at a more difficult position? If you were to macically swap Manny and Winn, you also have the issue that that Manny would not be able to play RF, causing a chain reaction that would mean Lewis would have to move to RF.

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by Goofus on Aug 25, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defensive metrics compare players to their position average/replacement player, so Winn is compared to other RF’s and Manny’s compared to other LF’s . It’s not really a problem, though, since RF and LF are very similar (pretty much identical except for the throw to 3B).

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Aug 25, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t say that the article proves this but it does make a good case that ManRam’s defence is so bad, and and Winn’s defence so good that it’s a lot closer than you would think.

I’ve always felt Winn was an underrated player, not because of any statistics but because of my general feeling that playing good RF defence in AT&T is very valuable and not very well appreciated by most fans.

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by oldjacket on Aug 24, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!”

by Merope on Aug 24, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It might be damning with faint praise

But Randy Winn is the most valuable position player on the Giants right now. That’s not to say that he shouldn’t take the month of September off to let Nate play, but from the traditional let’s win as many games as possible point of view, it’s not like Bochy is coming out of left field.

Winn will finish the season with an EQA around 280 playing plus defense (if he had a good arm it would be plus-plus defense) in the most challenging right field in baseball. He will probably be the only Giant’s hitter worth 4.5 Wins over Replacement, depending of course on Freddie Lewis’ health and what defensive metric you prefer — I’m waiting for the Fielding Bible myself.

by Change Up on Aug 24, 2008 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bochy will only be fired once he “crosses the line” and has Cain throw 150 pitches in one of his starts. But, 125 is no problem for our talented 23 year old….he’s got a workhorses frame.

by Squire_Boone on Aug 23, 2008 9:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is there somebody available out there with a [good] reputation for working with young clubs/players ? Someone at the minor league level that needs a shot? Bochy just doesn’t seem to be the right fit for the post-Bondsian Giants.
Maybe someone who wouldn’t qualify for Social Security?

by Merope on Aug 23, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Davey Johnson is my pick.

But then again, Bill Richardson or Jim Webb were my preference for Barack’s VP, so I am accustomed to not getting what I want.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 23, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davey would have been good, but he’s getting up there in years. I thought he looked awful at the All-Star game. It looked like he had aged 25 years in about 5.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 23, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch the Olympics.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 23, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd give Roberto Kelly a chance

He seems to work well with the young guys. I read good things about him when he was managing our team in Augusta.

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by Lyle on Aug 24, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Bruce Bochy is actually a pretty good manager, but he’s just not right for this team. He’d be much better off coaching a bunch of old veterans than a rebuilding team..

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by lmaozedong on Aug 23, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Macello’s points above.

Along those lines, Molina and Winn are under contract next year, so unless they’re traded they’ll be in the mix next season. If Bochy wants to be a “player’s manager”, he can’t hang those “veteran leaders” out to dry and say they suck in the papers.

For all we know, Sabean has told Bochy to keep playing Molina and Winn while they’re hot so they can continue to be showcased for a potential trade now or before the 2009 campaign begins.

I’m as excited about Pablo as much as anyone, but it’s still early. Let’s not annoint him starting anything just yet. Bowker’s debut was equally impressive after his call-up from AA.

I think the ideal solution is to shut Fred down and let him deal with his foot once Nate gets called up, which will open up an outfield spot.

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Aug 23, 2008 10:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Once again, I question the meme that it's possible for the manager to act (very long) contrary to wishes of GM

The manager is not a free-standing point on the organization chart; he is under the GM (eww). If the GM is giving the manager clear direction (a significant "if"), then it would take serious chutzpah + error to act contrary to that. I just don’t think it’s likely that a manager would/could defy his GM every day for very long.

Further, you might remember Brian Sabean from such diplomatic and tactful movies like “Molina’s Clock is Winding Down,” “I’m Not An Idiot,” and “Lunatic Fringe.” This isn’t a guy who lacks ego. This isn’t a guy who doesn’t know how to get a message out in the media. Actually, this is a guy who doesn’t know how to avoid it. If Boch’ were really defying the express wishes of his boss, Sabean couldn’t help himself from saying something.

If anyone has any actual evidence that Bochy is defying chain of command, please share. And with all due respect to Lionel Hutz and the genius Phil Hartman who voiced him, no, inference and supposition are not kinds of evidence.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 23, 2008 10:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think it’s so much that he is defying orders, just that Bochy is probably given a lot of free range to run the team how he sees fit. This is a guy who’s been a manager for over a decade now. I doubt Sabean is the type that would depict how the manager should do his job. I’m sure there is lots of things they discuss and plan sometimes like roster moves, but as far as the day to day managing, I’m pretty sure that would be up to the manager.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 23, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once again, surmise and inference are not evidence

YES, all managers are “probably given a lot of free range.” YES, this is even more likely true for managers who have achieved success, such as Bochy. YES, the manager’s job is the “day to day managing.” None of this addresses the question. The GM sets policy; the manager is supposed to implement it, and either he does or he doesn’t.

No, the GM doesn’t (and shouldn’t) fill out the lineup card, but the GM does (and should) announce a policy — e.g., “From here on out, play the young guys as much as possible, and furthermore, here are X specific guys that I want to see in such-and-such different positions. You work that out as you see fit.” THAT is a policy; that is not day-to-day managing. What I am challenging here is the whole meme of “Gosh, gee whiz, poor helpless Sabes keeps calling up these guys but Old Grouch Powerful Bochy just won’t play them, so meek Sabes must send them back down 3 weeks later” that was repeated much of the summer, or it’s current August form.

If anyone has evidence, share it. We all know what the general job outlines are. If the sentence contains “don’t think,” “doubt,” “I’m sure,” and “I’m pretty sure,” then that’s not really advancing the discussion. We demand data and evidence when we make claims about players, and that is as it should be in every aspect of the human existence. (Someone says there is a conscious God? Let’s see the data. Sun revolves around the earth? Let’s see the data.)

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 23, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll never see the data

whether data that agrees with your point, or disagrees with it.

Firstly, no team is going to disclose these details.

Secondly, different teams probably work differently. Billy Beane’s relationship with his managers is probably fairly different from Colletti’s with Torre, or Cashman’s with his managers.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Aug 23, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's say that's true that we won't see anything that supports the proposition...

… then that means it fails.

But please don’t misunderstand: I don’t mean “data” or “evidence” as necessarily smoking gun or DNA type of strength— I mean ANYthing other than supposition. For instance, you cite a great example in Billy Beane and his managers. BASED ON COMMENTS from managers, coaches, managers, reporters, etc., it was known that he gets involved to a pretty fine grain of detail in the day-to-day management, and that [Art Howe, I think?] wasn’t taking that very well. Bingo, that’s evidence and data on which to know something about the disconnect between the GMs wishes and the Mgr’s implementation. I don’t need sworn affidavits or video footage.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 23, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, let's take Beane

Quite a bit of the perception of Beane, that Beane is an interfering busybody and his managers are just sock puppets for example, is still based on the book Moneyball. The problem is that Moneyball was pretty creative when it came to reporting “facts”. Quite a few “facts” in Moneyball have subsequently been stated by Beane, by DePo, to have been apocryphal.

So, the perception that Beane interferes a lot might actually be incorrect.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Aug 23, 2008 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, sure that's possible. All the more reason to lay off the "Sabes weak/Bochy thwarting him" meme

I’m not here to defend ‘Moneyball,’ though I would say that (a) it is unlikely that Michael Lewis flat-out made stuff up; he might’ve exaggerated/omitted/misnamed/whatever, but he didn’t invent things out of thin air, and (b) there was plenty else in the media (though, certainly, after ‘Moneyball’ might have already fed the media perception) around the Howe departure regarding Beane’s penchant for involvement in small things.

But at least there were rumblings from within the organization about Beane. There are no such rumblings from within the Giants organization that Sabean wants X, but Bochy refused to implement it, so Sabean is stuck. In the absence of some data… wait, what is it we do in all other aspects of our lives? Ah yes, we dismiss the proposition.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 24, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what you’re really saying is that we should let ol’ Boulder-skull and Sabes go?!? Because that’s a movement I could get behind!

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by PacBellBoozer on Aug 23, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s a movement I could get behind!

There’s a butt pee joke in there somewhere…

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by howtheyscored on Aug 23, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally disagree

we should fire him after the season. not now.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 23, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

why?

Understand, I’m no fan of Bochy. But if y’all think any manager this side of Billy Martin would win with this collection of has-beens and never-will-bes, think again. And trust me, while the stretching of Timmy and Matt is the worst aspect of Bochy’s managing, he’s not even in Billy Martin’s league. Oh, yeah. and Martin’s dead so I guess he probably won’t be the manager next year anyway.

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by senorvegas on Aug 23, 2008 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

“if y’all think any manager this side of Billy Martin would win with this collection of has-beens and never-will-bes, think again”

I don’t see where rxmeister (or anyone else) questioned Bochy’s ability to win. Quite the opposite, in fact — it seems he’d prefer Bochy stop worrying so much about winning, and concentrate more on the development of the Giants young players.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 23, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 23, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At least the lunatic fringe knows that it's called the 'ENTER' key!

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by PacBellBoozer on Aug 23, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 23, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rofl

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 23, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bochy Does It Again

I think you saw in Sunday’s game the working of the Bochy-Sabean relationship. Sabean wants him to play the kids, so he makes the lineup out with the kids in it, and if they’re winning it’s cool, but if they fall behind he immediately starts to put his veterans into the game. He pinch hits Aurilia for Ishikawa in the fourth freaking inning, and when he goes to the bullpen, it’s always Taschner, Yabu and Walker. The only reason he went to Hinshaw is that his lefty-lefty desires somehow managed to overcome his disdain for the kids. Tyler Walker said the other day that Bochy’s a good manager because he has never given up on him, he keeps giving him a chance to turn it around. That doesn’t make you a good manager, Tyler, if anything it makes you a dumb one. A good manager would find someone else that could do the job. Don’t confuse dumb loyalty to veteran players at the expense of playing winning baseball to doing a good managerial job.

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by rxmeister on Aug 24, 2008 7:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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