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Interesting to see someone prove that Winn has more value than Manny....perhaps we underestimate him?

over 3 years ago Shadow_grad_tiny NorCalGiant 17 comments 0 recs  | 

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I want Nate up and getting MLB AB’s, we had better get value for Winn if we trade him.

Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?

by NorCalGiant on Aug 22, 2008 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I think

We underestimate him because our team is so bereft of offense.

As such, we value it very highly.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Aug 22, 2008 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Does that make sense?

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 22, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

not as much as the limitations of alternate tunings.

/zing

sorry, couldn’t resist, but just fuckin’ witcha FWF…

:)

Fairley odd parent to Wendell

by WTF on Aug 22, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wish there was more actual math there. A lot of it seems to be stuff like “Ok, let’s give him an extra +1 win share for [random reason]”

Now, these allocations probably aren’t arbitrary, but the way that’s written I can’t really tell that they aren’t.

It also troubles me that we go from there to “Based on this underfleshed argument, we could say that he’s comparable to Ramirez, Burrel, etc. without analyzing any of those players.”

Not saying it might not be a valid argument, (though it is really hard to swallow) but I would have liked to have seen it, you know, actually argued (which would have helped me swallow it).

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2008 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Check the comment section....

Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?

by NorCalGiant on Aug 22, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

He leaves a lot of the calculations out for brevity, but they are covered in the comments.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Aug 22, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically 10 runs = 1 win, so if Randy is a +1 win in RF that mean’s he is saving 10 runs per season at that defensive position. His bat is 10 runs above average = another +1 win. Then you just do some adjustments for position and league.

by xanthan on Aug 22, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, very helpful. Also, I read the comments. Very helpful there as well.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, there’s a comment section.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

FWIF

I made this claim to a dodger co-worker today, and he looked at me like I just told him the world was flat.

I sent him the article, see what he says…

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Aug 22, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

You work with a dodger?

even the mlb minimum seems like enough to avoid a second job.

Fairley odd parent to Wendell

by WTF on Aug 22, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

har har

missing words FTW!

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Aug 22, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve long believed this but also suspected that I was a little crazy for believing it.

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Aug 23, 2008 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ve long believed you were crazy.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Aug 23, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

APPLESAUCE!

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Aug 24, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

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