Giants sign Roger Kieschnick, Perez...Crawford?

by BruteSentiment on Aug 13, 2008 5:27 PM PDT Comment 47 comments

Giants signed Roger Kieschnick today, their 4th 3rd round pick. Terms were not announced.

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20080813&content_id=3302412&vkey=pr_sf&fext=.jsp&c_id=sf

This is good news, obviously. Now just Brandon Crawford and Gerald 'Buster' Posey remain unsigned. Oh yea, and I wouldn't mind if Juan Carlos Perez signs as well, but that one I have no info about. I really wish that I did.

Ready for Friday yet?

EDIT: Just got word that Perez (13th round) and Aaron Davidson (31st Round) have signed.

EDIT: BA's database indicates that Brandon Crawford signed for $375K. That appears to be, according to BA, about $92,000 over slot.

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Awesome news about Kieschnick and JC Perez.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2008 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Excellent news indeed. I hope this means the Visa stuff with Perez has been worked out.

by haverecords on Aug 13, 2008 6:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Baggerly suggests that is might not be totally solved.

Juan Carlos Perez, who fell in the draft because of visa issues. The Dominican native signed a 2009 contract, allowing time to sort out his green card.

But I have to think they are confident about it if they signed him.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 14, 2008 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't "Visa Issues" Frequently End Up Being Lying About One's Name and Age?

I am sure this can be straightened up with the Feds but if he is older then he is also a much lessor prospect.

by giantsrainman on Aug 14, 2008 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, the 2009 contract seems like the only option. From what i was able to find out about his situation, it could be a bit messy; at the same time, it seems like he could have a strong argument. The Visa overstay penalties can be sharp (and would be in his case), but it appears that his paperwork might actually be in process.

There have been a number of cases that are prima facie similar to this one, and they worked out okay, as Immigration/Homeland (in)security has been rather lax with MLB players in this situation, recently.

And even if the specifics are dicier than they appear, the giants surely have a few good lawyer to help it along. Should turn out okay…

by haverecords on Aug 14, 2008 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, I think it will eventually work itself out. Keep in mind the guy is better than a 13th round talent and he fell that far because these visa issues were well known, so the Giants are taking a chance here from the beginning. Worst case scenario they lose a 13th round pick and the $50 grand or so they probably gave him.

Now might be a good time for McGowan to call President Bush and say “hey, remember that $2,000 I gave to your campaign? Well, I could use just this one small favor…” (note: I mean this purely as a joke, I’m not intending to start a political discussion)

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 14, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sweet! Now just get the other 2 signed and Carter Bell (doubt it :() And this looks great. But either way things are looking up from where they were a few years ago.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 13, 2008 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Please please please pleasepleaseplease sign Carter Bell. Though with a committment to Oregon State in his back pocket I don’t think we’re getting him.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep. Damn the slot..get him!

I’d add Ryan O’Sullivan to the list too.

by haverecords on Aug 13, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

so I guess it's official

nobody reads Fanshots

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 13, 2008 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I can’t see them, where are they?

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what are these fanshots you speak of? They sound like a sasquatchian mystery to me.

by tyrannoman on Aug 13, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And why would someone shoot a fan, anyway? Sounds barbaric to me.

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Aug 14, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ryan O'Sullivan

Any chance of SF signing this HS kid who was their #10 pick

by wilriv21 on Aug 13, 2008 6:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I Hope So

By cleaning up his motion he could add a couple more mph on his fastball; according to his report the rest of his game is pretty solid.

by Change Up on Aug 13, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better chance

of the Niners signing him as a backup to JT.

by Rubber Soul on Aug 13, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roger was the third round pick, not fourth

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Aug 13, 2008 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Holy crap, Facebook was right!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2008 7:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

never doubt the interwebs 3.0

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Aug 14, 2008 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i gotta tip my hat

to caincecum

by caincecum on Aug 14, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who’d like a serving of Kiesch? It’s fresh!

Only 855 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2008 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Very clever dinner. Appetizing food fit neatly into interesting round pie.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 13, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Following the principles of pie: A) pie is always an option and B) pie is delicious.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 14, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kiesch Lorraine – yay!

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Aug 14, 2008 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Giants have prospects?

by Hobbes2d on Aug 13, 2008 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

mostly suspects with a sprinkling of prospects

by wilriv21 on Aug 13, 2008 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Top 10 farm system now, probably.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Aug 13, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would say so. Oakland, Texas, Boston, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, Florida, St. Louis, Atlanta and Milwaukee making up the other 9. Possibly Minnesota could make it in there too instead one of the bottom 3. I’d put the Giants at 6th or 7th.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He got $525K

by KCE on Aug 13, 2008 8:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

what is slot money for that choice? Or does anyone know what the pick before and after Kieschnick signed for?

Now if Evans can lock up O’Sullivan, Bell and Posey then all is well in China Basin

by wilriv21 on Aug 13, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BA has slot at $485K

The only pick near him who has signed is #87 (Kieschnick was #82), who also got $525K.

SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!

by BruteSentiment on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Note: Crawford appears to be in the fold

Main post edited. BA’s database shows him getting $375K, about $92K over slot. Unconfirmed from other sources so far.

SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!

by BruteSentiment on Aug 13, 2008 8:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Woohoo

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Baggs also says

That Buster is just awaiting a physical for 7.5mil

Bill Mueller? I expect at least A-Rod type numbers from my son, Conor Gillaspie

by Gamer101 on Aug 13, 2008 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Awesome

Now we just need Alvarez and Hosmer (and possibly Matusz) to get signed and it will be a perfect news week for us.

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Why do we care if they sign? As long as Posey inks his deal I could care less about those 3 signing. I hope they go back to school.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 13, 2008 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Perhaps he is referring to the unsigned compensation picks that the teams would receive next year if the players don’t sign.

by rotorueter on Aug 13, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, they would get to pick again, but there would also be more talent back in the draft. That would benefit us, giving that this draft is supposedly weaker.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 13, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is a problem if pick 3, 4 and 5 could already be spoken for. If the giants finish 3rd worse or ‘lower’ that pick would become 6 (with Matusz and or Alvarez back on the board, Hosmer wouldn’t be available). Many expect the top 5 of this draft to be strong, but less so after (still early, though…).

I still expect all three to sign, though.

by haverecords on Aug 13, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

he’s asking you to connect a few dots on that one

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 13, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

TALENT TALENT TALENT! :D

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Aug 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

About as perfect a day in Giants-dom as you can have, while still losing the game.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Aug 13, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome. Remember all those people praising the Giants on Draft Day? Well, we’ve almost got the most important picks signed.

This is great news.

by Dan from NM on Aug 13, 2008 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Second the poster who suggested that Aug 15th deadline be replaced by July 15th deadline. Why have the teams and agents sit around and waste a month when these transactions can be wrapped up within 6 weeks of the draft.

by wilriv21 on Aug 13, 2008 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

CWS wasn't over until late June

Most players wouldn’t be affected, but a few of the top ones would. Let ‘em focus on winning games, then have time to think about what they’re going to do…

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Aug 13, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs