2 Out of 3 Is Awesome against The Hated Dodgers...
by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 10, 2008 7:33 PM PDT
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But how much longer can we watch this POS waiver pickup Castillo kill this team? On a team with minimal HR power, how on earth are we supposed to field a crappy hitting 3rd baseman( Oh, I'm sorry-He is a utility infielder..) who sports an OBP less than 300? You can't have a team slg avg of .373 with a team OBP of .315. That just doesn't work. The front office has to do a better job in either on of those 2 areas...Our pitching is sure fun to watch, but is it asking so much to expect our players to hit a ball out of the IF in a clutch situation...Castillo is my scapegoat...DFA him NOW!!!!!
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You don't hate them enough
We still lost one.
by Sabertooth on Aug 10, 2008 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When your team is one that rarely hits a ball out of the infield, 2 out of 3 is MORE than enough …even if its against the damn Dodgers…
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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 10, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather watch Aurilia than that walking pile of poop
by giants9107 on Aug 10, 2008 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so would I
I think we should classify our guys so we know who is what. For instance, some people will frown on this topic and say “you guys just want to bitch about something; you used to complain that Boch (not Bochy, mind you, but Boch because everyone knows that old school gamers like Bruce Bochy have a shortened version of their name) doesn’t play the young guys but then when he does you complain about the results.”
In my mind, when I’m thinking of the young guys, guys like Freddie Lewis, John Bowker, Ay-oooh-hen-ee-o, Burriss, and ochoa come to mind. Play those guys (in fact, I would have Bowker in the OF more to give Fred more days off and I would bring up Ishikawa to play more 1b). Fricking Castillo has already been cut by two teams, hasn’t he? If he wasn’t cut by Pittsburgh they certainly didn’t want him there anymore.
by joe t on Aug 10, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What more do you want? Dude hits doubles.
by xanthan on Aug 10, 2008 7:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
U mean Double PLays?
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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 10, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude used tohit doubles.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Aug 11, 2008 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting thoughts, but the title of the fanpost didn’t have much to do with the content!! I thought I would see a pro-Giants post, and I got a Jose Castillo must die rant. By the way, I agree. Jose Castillo must die!!
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by rxmeister on Aug 10, 2008 7:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gillaspie was already in San Francisco today...
Throw a uni on him and send Castillo packing. He’s probably better right now.
(Joking… not really)
Angel Villalona: Rush Fan? Probably.
by AngelintheInfield on Aug 10, 2008 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was praying BLB would've done that
And Mays play CF. He can still jack them into the stands.
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 10, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he wasn’t really in SF today?
Bengie Molina: stretching doubles into singles since 1998.
by jasomack on Aug 10, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Have Also Come To This Conclusion
I would rather see the Giants re-sign Bonds to play LF moving Lewis to RF and trying Winn at 3B then to continue to watch the truely brain dead hacking of Castillo and I am not at all talking about Castillo being a latino. This is a personal trate not a racial thing.
by giantsrainman on Aug 10, 2008 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I said in the gameday thread, Castillo may only be 27, but all that means is that in two years, he’s got a good chance of being 29.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Aug 10, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
unlikely
the mob is forming…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 10, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other options?
1. Richie – he stinks, but…well, he’s a fan favorite. In about 90 fewer ab’s, he’s still better than Castillo, who has reverted to form and is now OPS+ing 78 (Career 76). Richie is at 93, which is still below average.
2. NO ONE!
3. Scott McClain – why not? couldn’t be worse.
4. Velez – no thanks.
5. Denker – maybe, but not his natural position. probably better than Castillo offensively, but not defensively.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 10, 2008 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Three please
I know it will never happen because he is ancient, but I wanna see McClain get a shot. We aren’t going to the playoffs, so we might as well see him hit one into the bleachers every once in a while.
It was frustrating to look at the box score during the 7th inning of todays game and see like 10 hits by our first four hitters, and only one by the rest of the team. Put McClain in the 5 or 6 hole and let him try and drive in Benji and Rowand for once
by m34josh on Aug 10, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.5
Denker, I think is worth some more time at 3rd/2nd. I’ve been vacationing for the past two weeks, so I don’t know how well Castillo is playing 3rd right now… but is Denker really worse defensively? yikes.
I’d rather see Leone than McClain… but I think both are strictly Fresno players and not in the Giants plans. Or so it would seem.
Castillo hits doubles.
by kennv on Aug 11, 2008 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
#2
Interesting stragegy. The defense would be downgraded slightly with only three infielders, but the hitting could improve, as there could be no double plays, that spot would just be an automatic out I guess.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
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by raisingcain on Aug 11, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replaced with a 4th outfielder. Crazy enough to work!
by chilibean_3 on Aug 11, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I too have seen enough of Castillo. Unfortunately, there wouldn’t seem to be much in the way of 3b talent out there at the moment on the FA market (unless Glaus opts out), and no one really from within our own system banging on the door for a promotion. Maybe Frandsen could play there next year with Burriss/Ochoa at the middle infield positions. Or maybe the Giants can package Winn and some young pitching to make a trade. But I think the burden is on Sabean to start to address the gaping holes in the infield now.
The team has a rotation, a bullpen, a catcher, and an outfield that could all contend for the playoffs especially in the weak NL west. But around the diamond, we’re weak at every. single. spot. I’m not saying that needs to be fixed by next year, but Sabean does need to start. Teixeira would be a nice beginning, I’m thinking, but of course he’d cost plenty. Maybe Dunn could shift to 1b. Maybe Furcal would make sense on a reasonable 2-3 year contract. But there aren’t many simple answers out ther
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Aug 10, 2008 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Right now, I would prefer to see MCclain over Castillo....
No matter how bad MCclain defense is refuted to be
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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 10, 2008 9:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no
I’d rather take Frandsen with a busted achillies
or, wait for it…
NATE @ 3B!
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 10, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now, I would prefer Stevie Wonder with his hands tied behind his back
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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 10, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant McClain
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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 10, 2008 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd take John McCain @ 3rd over Castillo
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by delorean on Aug 10, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'd be worth it if just for the lulz.
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by jponry on Aug 10, 2008 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just don’t keep any oversized jars of applesauce around 3B.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2008 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely. Then tag him with the "San Francisco values" label, and he's toast.
I love this idea!
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 11, 2008 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A possiblity
I believe the Giants have two openings on their 40-man roster, so we might get to see Ryan Rohlinger in September. Ryan’s not much, but as someone already pointed out, there ISN’T much at third base. Aside from the recently-signed Conor Gillaspie, the position is pretty much a void—as many be shortstop.
But all is not lost. While Gillaspie’s bat would play better at second base and he his said to have the athleticism to play there, Angel Villalona may well return to the position.
I’ve probably mentioned this before, but with Angel there is so much talk about his age as an excuse for his not performing all that well at Augusta. I don’t totally disagree. Yet Madison Bumgarner is just a year and 12 days older, had a year less professional experience than AnVil, and it totally dominating that league.
I’m guessing AnVil will be promoted next season, but it’s not as if he has blown his way out of Low A ball thus far. Whereas Mad Bum looks ready for San Jose right NOW and looks as if he might be ready for AA or even higher by this time next season.
AnVil’s coming to a new country and a new culture where a different language is spoken shouldn’t be discounted. Still, despite just one year’s difference in age, it seems that Mad Bum is well ahead of AnVil.
Apparently Rafael Ramirez will make his debut over the winter. I believe that would mean the Giants wouldn’t have to put him on the 40-man until after the 2012 season.
And I think AnVil doesn’t have to be so protected until after the 2010 season.
So now the $64,000 question: Will the Giants sign Buster Posey before AnVil’s 18th birthday? My guess would be no—but that they will within the requisite two days of it.
by sharksrog on Aug 11, 2008 12:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
AnVil’s birthday is Wednesday. Who ordered the cake?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 11, 2008 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Livan Hernandez!!!
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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Livian probably picked it up already and ate it.
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 11, 2008 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boo Livan. Hooray beer!
Wait Angel’s not old enough for that. Foiled…
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 11, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a party, not a punishment.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 11, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rohlinger
Are we sure Ryan isn’t a worthy stand-in for a while? As I recall they kept him around for quite a while in spring training. There was talk about how much they liked the kind of contact he was making at the plate and that they felt his fielding was solid if unspectacular. Sounds like a step up from Castillo.
by NearestNorwich on Aug 11, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's doing pretty okay @ conneticut.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Aug 11, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a guy second on a team in doubles, Castillo has been playing himself into a double DFA situation again.
Castillo hits doubles.
by kennv on Aug 11, 2008 7:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet Timmy could play 3b on days he doesn’t pitch.
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Aug 11, 2008 8:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That position
That position already belongs to Nate Schierholtz.
by sharksrog on Aug 11, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stick bonds on third. lawl.
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
by GiNgiNxbOi on Aug 11, 2008 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone but Castillo
I’ve been saying it the whole time – he makes my head hurt just to watch.
Richie or McClain plz. Or Denker – or even velez – I’m so tired of Joe Castle.
Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on Aug 11, 2008 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's what I don't get
Why do people hate Castillo? He’s just bein’ Castillo. Castillo bein’ Castillo. A replacement-level player making replacement level money. DFAed by, what, 2 or 3 different orgs? Castillo is doing exactly what he’s supposed to do and being exactly who he’s supposed to be.
I think people SHOULD be pissed off at the front office of this club for “forgetting” to staff 3rd base for this season! If Castillo hadn’t fallen into Sabean’s lap, we’d have a big hole on the left side of the infield, and 4 guys in the outfield.
In short, Joe Castle is OK by me. He shouldn’t be playing 3rd for the Giants, or any other ML team for that matter, but he is OK. I guess. At something. Probably.
Bring up Rohlinger.
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by delorean on Aug 11, 2008 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Castillo because he loses games for the Giants.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really wish Frandsen hadn’t hurt himself. It would have been interesting to see him at 3B this season.
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by Goofus on Aug 11, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mordy
Nice of you to bring up the Giants’ OBP and SLG, Mordy. I hadn’t done a test of the simple runs-estimating formula based on OPS, but using the Giants’ OPS and runs scored to date, it once again comes up pretty darn close.
The easy formula for runs scored in a 162-game season is 450 + (OPS – .600) 200. The Giants’ .688 OPS on the season estimates they would score 626 runs over the season, and they are on pace to score 621.
Amazing that such a simple back-of-the-envelope formula can be such a good estimating tool. For instance, it allowed one to estimate how many runs the Giants would lose when they lost Barry Bonds. If one looked at how much the impact of losing Barry was on the Giants’ team OPS, he could make a reasonable estimate of how many fewer runs the Giants were likely to score as a result of not renewing Barry’s contract.
by sharksrog on Aug 11, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's called common sense Rog!!!
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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 11, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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