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Yes, it was mentioned in earlier Fanposts (wilriv), and there's even a Fanshot down there (which you ignored, because you don't read the Fanshots), but I think this warrants its own Fanpost.

I posted this over on Bay City Ball this morning:

If Rosenthal is right (not a given), the Brewers are going to go for broke this year with Sheets, Sabathia, and Fielder, and retool next year with comp picks. I love the strategy, and wish them the best. And if it’s true, then I could definitely see them picking up Taschner and Durham, which would be spectacular. Hinshaw kinda-sorta makes Taschner redundant, and we’ve got plenty of other arms waiting in the wings (howbout that metaphor, huh?). If Sabean and Co. moves those guys and get some salary relief and some prospects, that will tell me they’re serious about the whole rebuilding thing. I sincerely hope they are!


Whaddya think? Anyone know the Brewers org well enough to float some potential prospects? Do you think Sabes & Co. will pull the trigger?

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also, whoever posted this on MLB TR:

y’all need to fess up!

As a representative for the Giants of Major League Baseball, let me say we could definitely talk. Gamel’s just the type of prospect we need, I’m willing to deal Cain b/c of what we have in the bigs and what we’ve got coming below (to say nothing of – dogs and cats living together – my belief that Barry Zito will show some improvement here soon). Don’t really have a pressing need for Hardy, but I like him. Maybe send him packing somewhere for a young arm or 1B.

Cain’s an enigma wrapped inside a Dodger Dog (0-7 lifetime vs. the Blue, I believe). I’m not sure he’s got the right attitude for a front-of-the-rotation starter. Seems to always pitch just bad or good enough to bitch about losing or wonder why he couldn’t hang on for a win.

Posted by: The Management | July 08, 2008 at 12:49 PM

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by delorean on Jul 8, 2008 11:30 AM PDT   0 recs

I will hunt him down and skin him and cure the skin into a jerkey jacket that I will wear on a cold morning and eat as the day warms up so that by the time it is warm out, I’m not wearing a jacket anymore and I’ve had a filling breakfast, and I will carve his bones into various utensils and use those bone utensils to butcher the meat and discard the innards, and then I’ll make art out of the butchered meat and sell it to a museum and use the money to buy some lettuce for a salad, because I’ll be hungry again from all the art making, and then I’ll eat a snow-cone, because I’ll be hot from making the salad.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 8, 2008 11:44 AM PDT to parent up   2 recs

Very nicely put. Although I would have been more impressed if you had actually used the innards for something, like divining fortunes in the patterns of the innards splattered on the ground….

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by Lyle on Jul 9, 2008 2:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ummm, tripe….

by tyrannoman on Jul 9, 2008 9:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Clearly it was howie

He would trade Cain just to get rid of him.

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by groug on Jul 8, 2008 11:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It was me, I admit it

Kidding! Kidding! Howie get off! Put the jerky-making tools away!

As much as Cain’s struggles scare me, the team’s pitching situation isn’t as strong as we felt earlier in the year. Lincecum’s the only sure long-term guy, Cain is solid but is inconsistent at times, Sanchez looks pretty good but I’d like to see him have two full years under his belt before I make a verdict, but after those guys it’s a crapshoot. Having a “strong” rotation will be based on Zito being able to come close to an average pitcher again and Lowry regaining form.

Trading Cain could be argued, but at this point it may be wise to hang on to him for a year or two to see how the rest of the rotation pans out. If Mad Bum/Alderson/Sosa make their way into the mix, then someone will certainly become expendable.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 8, 2008 11:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don’t look at me, I applied for a job there and got turned down. Although the suggested package I wrote for a Gamel trade might earn me a lynching…

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 8, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Taschner - Yes, Durham - I don't see it.

Special Agent Jack would be a good fit and he’s from Wisconsin. Durham, I don’t see because the Brewers have Weeks. I know Weeks is injury prone, but I think they might not want to upset him by bringing in Ray-Ray.

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by MeSoKrabby on Jul 8, 2008 11:32 AM PDT   0 recs

From what I’ve read, Ray would be a bench player.

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by xanthan on Jul 8, 2008 11:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The problem with Durham as a bench player...

...is his lack of versatility; he can only play second. On an AL team he might get some starts at DH as well. As a pinch hitter he’s only .218/.299/.385. That represents only 87 career ABs, so he’s probably a better PH than that indicates, but it doesn’t help the trade value.

For someone who needs a bench player, I would think Aurilia would be a more attractive option. He can play any infield position and has better PH numbers (although, again, small sample size). Durham makes more sense for someone who needs a regular 2B due to injury or suckitude.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 8, 2008 11:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And the Bewers

Are making a playoff push with a whole bushel of < .700 OPS suckitude @ second base.

Durham is literally the perfect solution for them.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 8, 2008 11:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly

Durham is perfect for them since it is a one year deal and he is much better than Weeks at this point.

by AngelWillSaveUs on Jul 8, 2008 12:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What what what?

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by marcello on Jul 8, 2008 1:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

its weird

but its also true

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by Azmanz on Jul 8, 2008 6:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess in bizarro, crazy land. But that land is no fun, because facts are false there.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Jul 8, 2008 11:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And the Facts say

Ray Durham EQA = .289
Rickie Weeks EQA = .249
.289 > .249

Ray Durham is better than Rickie Weeks, at least if you think EQA is worth anything (which most do)

Ray Durham is also better than any other second baseman in baseball not named:

Dan Uggla
Ian Kinsler
Chase Utley
Brian Roberts
Brandon Phillips
Dustin Pedroia
Mark Derosa
Orlando Hudson

So yeah, Ray is having a pretty good year…

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 9, 2008 8:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ray is having a good year, but we’re looking longterm here.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 9, 2008 9:16 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Long term, short term

who gives a sh*t.

by Gob on Jul 9, 2008 10:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No, we arent.

The Brewers are trying to win this year. That qualifies as short term.

In the short term, Ray Durham is outperforming Rickie Weeks, and that is exactly what the Brewers need.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 9, 2008 10:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What. We’re not the Brewers. Or did I miss part of this conversation.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 9, 2008 11:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No, we're the Brewers now.

You must have missed the memo.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 9, 2008 11:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It really just started with this comment:

Durham is WAY better than Weeks.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Jul 9, 2008 11:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This entire thread

Is about trading Durham to the Brewers.

The reason they would want him is, in the short term, he is better than Weeks.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 9, 2008 1:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And the difference in their win shares is 5.4 to 5.8 in Durham’s favor. Fielding is part of the game too, and Durham is HORRIBLE. Anyways, you’re basing your judgments of these two off of about 300 PAs. Who do you think is going to be better going forward? I’d bet that Weeks has a better 2nd half than Durham and I can pretty much guarantee Weeks is better from here on out in their respective careers.

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by marcello on Jul 9, 2008 9:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rickie Weeks

isn’t great either. If I were to project Rickie Weeks and Ray Durham for the rest of the year, however, I’d probably guess a repeat of 2007 stats at the end of the year. Remember, http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=5652&type=batting&year=2007>Rickie Week’s splits had him with a much better second half than first half. Even though he hit .230 last year, who cares when he walks so much? I’d take Rickie Weeks over Durham anyway. I feel like his bust-iness is exaggerated.

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by lmaozedong on Jul 10, 2008 8:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's the Top-20

From Sickels, posted on December of ‘07

1. Matt LaPorta, OF, Grade B+ (great bat, glove??)
2. Manny Parra, LHP, Grade B+ (a really good prospect who needs more attention)
3. Mat Gamel, 3B, Grade B
4. Jeremy Jeffress, RHP, Grade B (assumes he stops smoking dope)
5. Jonathan Lucroy, C, Grade B-
6. Taylor Green, 3B, Grade B-
7. Cole Gillespie, OF, Grade C+
8. Alicides Escobar, SS, Grade C+ (overrated by lots of people IMHO)
9. Caleb Gindl, OF, Grade C+ (very promising, want more data)
10. Angel Salome, C, Grade C+
11. Michael Brantley, OF, Grade C+ (a personal favorite I admit)
12. Lorenzo Cain, OF, Grade C+
13. Zach Braddock, LHP, Grade C+
14. Robert Bryson, RHP, Grade C+
15. Hernan Iribarren, 2B, Grade C+
16. Brent Brewer, SS, Grade C (yes I know all about his tools. He is so damn raw that I don’t believe in him yet.)
17. R.J. Seidel, RHP, Grade C
18. Zack Jackson, LHP, Grade C
19. Cody Scarpetta, RHP, Grade C
20. Dan Merklinger, LHP, Grade C

I don’t know much about the Brewer system to be honest but I want Lorenzo Cain! We need more Cains.

Baseball America had them ranked as the 21st best farm system in this years annual organizational rankings.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jul 8, 2008 11:35 AM PDT   0 recs

Or Cole Gillespie

Then we could have a Gillespie and a Gillaspie.

However, if we’re giving up Agent Jack Taschner, we might want Zack Jackson to replace him in the action hero department.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 8, 2008 11:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What about LHP Zach Braddock? Currently 21 and in A+ ball.

Stats @ First Inning. He’s got a nice K% of 26.8 but looks a little wild with a BB% of 14.3

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jul 8, 2008 11:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lorenzo Cain

Matt’s suave Latino cousin?

Everybody Loves Durham
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by Natto on Jul 8, 2008 11:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He’ll get all the ladies and leave Cain in the dust. Again. First overshadowed by his BFF Tim, and then this. What a kick in the balls.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 8, 2008 5:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The picture of Bobby Hill in the hot tub with the ladies would suggest otherwsie. (Too lazy to find it, but someone will.)

2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!

by Goofus on Jul 9, 2008 12:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lorenzo Cain isn’t that great IMO. Very raw. Though he does have a lot of speed. He doesn’t get on base very much due to poor BB rate and he doesn’t have the best contact rate either.

Guys the Giants could or should target are Taylor Green (an actual 3B prospect) who can hit, draw walks and stick at 3rd. Jonathan Lucroy, who isn’t known so much for his defense behind the plate but he can hit, and also draw walks. Cole Gillespie, who doesn’t really have any 1 great tool, but is one of those great makeup guys who just play the game well. Angel Solome, if the Brewers won’t give up Lucroy. He’s pretty small at 5’7, but he’s got good defensive abilities and is hitting well this year at AA Huntsville. And then there’s Michael Brantley, who can also reach base, has very good speed, and who hits. The only problem with him is he has no power, which is odd considering he’s an OF/1B prospect.

Both Green and Lucroy have been rumored as PTBNL for the Sabathia deal. But also so has Lorenzo Cain. The Indians were really high on Green and scouted him multiple times.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 8, 2008 11:52 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Some in Cleveland
1 LaPorta, #14 Rob Bryson and #18 Zack Jackson went to Cleveland for CC Sabathia. Apparently there is also a PTBNL among this bunch. What does that leave for SF?

by wilriv21 on Jul 8, 2008 12:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Plenty considering the Brewers just had 7 picks in the first 100 in this last draft, and they’ll have at least 5 picks before the 2nd round in June of 09. That’s not even counting whatever young International signings or later round kids they’ve found. The Brewers have one of the best scouting operations going right now.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 8, 2008 12:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Picking is easier

when you lose all the time and get high picks in the first round…

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 9, 2008 1:13 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That’s true, but they’ve also done very well outside of the first round. They were one of the better teams to utilize the now deceased Draft and Follow.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2008 1:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

easier, but the Pirates have proven it isn’t a no-brainer…

by tyrannoman on Jul 9, 2008 9:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

YEAH

Wendell Fairley, Tim Alderson, and Nick Noonan all suck! Manny Burriss will never make the majors! Matt Cain is awful!

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by groug on Jul 9, 2008 11:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What's your point?

Wendell Fairly hasn’t really done anything (yet). Nick Noonan and Tim Alderson are doing well, but are still in A/A+ and have relatively limited ceilings. Burriss made it to the majors, but that doesn’t mean he deserves to be there. Matt Cain is awesome. Are you really saying there’s no big difference between high picks and low picks?

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2008 1:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No

First, I only mentioned Fairley because he’s in OGC’s sig.

The point is that there is plenty of talent near the end of the first round. OGC always (always always always) says that the reason our farm system was so bad for so long was that we had no high picks. And while there’s some truth to that, we my point is that the organization squandered most of the picks it did have (I don’t know why I switched from we to they when referring to the Giants there), when there is talent available. Alderson’s doing well. Noonan’s doing well. Burriss might be decent. And these are all the kinds of players that we could have had even with bad late-round picks but that we never did until Lowry in 2001.

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by groug on Jul 9, 2008 1:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And he never ever (ever ever ever) responds when you talk to him about the Red Sox drafts since Theo came.

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by Roger on Jul 9, 2008 7:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with everything you said. But your original comment was a reply to this - Picking is easier when you lose all the time and get high picks in the first round…, which made it look like you’re trying to prove that there’s no big difference between high picks and low picks in the first round. And there is one.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jul 10, 2008 4:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2-#13?

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by groug on Jul 8, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Past the top five there I can’t say I know much about these guys. And I dunno, I think Escobar is pretty good.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 8, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

RICKIE WEEKS

That is an interesting player to think about. Weeks is two years from free agency and is in his arbitration years and has been nothing but a disappointment for the Brewers. He was once regarded as a top 10 prospect in baseball, but he hasn’t had that single breakout year everyone has been expecting. He is currently hitting .208/.317/.362 and is in arbitration years.

How do the Brewers feel about him? Do they just ride him out, or do they think now is the time to get off the pot and go for a more proven 2B option. So far this season Durham has been a vastly superior offensive player to Weeks and could give them some stability.

It’s really tough to gauge, but Weeks is a player I’d be interested depending on how MIL currently values him. Who knows, perhaps they view him as a guy that might be non-tendered and thus would want to trade him? Or perhaps they just refuse to give up on his talent and will ride out the struggles.

Anyways, if I was Sabean I’d look into Weeks. Taschner, Yabu, and Durham (and cash of course) would probably not be enough to trade for Weeks, but that is all dependent on how Melvin values him at this point. if he values Weeks highly still, it’s an avenue not worth pursuing at all because it does nothing for the Giants to pay a fair price for him. Perhaps we could add a prospect to that package and make Melvin really think about it and question the production of Weeks. I’d toss in a decent relief prospect like Hedrick or something if it would help.

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by NeifiChicken on Jul 8, 2008 11:50 AM PDT   0 recs

Weeks and Bill Hall have been rumored to be on the trade market for sometime now. I think the Brewers were hoping he’d start hitting, but he just keeps getting worse.

Hall was angered by Russell Branyon’s promotion supposedly. So either of them could be possible trade bait as well.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 8, 2008 11:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I like Hall

And I like Weeks, for the right (rock bottom) price.

But frankly, Weeks looks every bit like another Jose Castillo. Don’t forget that 2b is the infield position at which we have the most possibilities in our own system (Frandsen, Velez, Burriss, Denker) so I don’t know that bringing in Weeks really helps us much.

Of those 4 “possible” 2b, I’m nearly 100% sure one will perform @ or above Weeks’ current career rate.

The attractive thing about Hall is that he has shown the ability to play well (even if struggling this year) and plays a position that we have zero possibilities at right now. Adding him to the 3b mix is, IMO, an instant upgrade for today and tomorrow.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 8, 2008 12:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn’t mind Hall either. But Idk how well his numbers would hold up in our park. Its not nearly as favorable as Miller Park.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 8, 2008 12:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Despite his ugly average

Rickie Weeks still has a .750 OPS, this horrible season included, and has some speed. I’d love to get Weeks, really.

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by lmaozedong on Jul 10, 2008 8:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Take Weeks if you can get him

The list of can’t miss prospects is rather lengthy and Weeks may very well end up on that side of the ledger but he could also become Carlos Pena (hot prospect, cool off, get traded and released a couple of times, end up hitting lights out for a year or two). If we could get him it would be a risk worth taking.

Durham and/or Taschner aren’t going to fetch much and I’m skeptical that Weeks would be considered by the Brewers but take what you can get and move on.

by slcgiant on Jul 8, 2008 12:17 PM PDT   0 recs

Good point bringing up Pena, as both he and Weeks showed the ability to draw a walk combined with the ability to hit for power, despite struggling otherwise. Pena eventually figured things out. He started slow this year, then got hurt, but he’s starting to raise that Avg since, and I think will have a huge 2nd half to help carry the Rays into the playoffs.

Weeks maybe just needs a change of scenery. He is very talented. I mean his bat speed is ridiculous. He’s also struggled with some injuries in the past that have possibly hindered his development. I think he’d be worth the risk as well.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 8, 2008 12:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My biggest problem w/ Weeks

Is that he is a 2b. We already have about 100 2b candidates.

It would be of more benefit to the team as a whole to try and get someone who plays another position.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 8, 2008 12:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well I don’t think Weeks is completely stuck at 2b by any means. There has been talk of moving him to the OF for a few years. I also don’t see why he couldn’t be tried out at 3B.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 8, 2008 12:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But then you run into the unflattering comparisons to Jose Castillo.

I’ve never understood the infatuation with Rickie Weeks. I just don’t get it. And, by extension, I presume the A’s are idiots for drafting his brother Jemile last month in the first round; this based on about 20 seconds’ worth of reading that Jemile’s approach is similar to Rickie’s.

To be honest, I don’t like Weeks, Fielder, or Hall. And each for different reasons. I like Corey Hart, love Ryan Braun, and find Hardy to be an enigma wrapped in a bratwurst, but intriguing.

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by Lyle on Jul 9, 2008 2:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He’s an outfielder that keeps getting played at 2B. An absolute butcher with the glove.

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by oldjacket on Jul 8, 2008 1:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

BUT WE ALREADY HAVE ONE OF THOSE

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by delorean on Jul 8, 2008 1:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I know! What fun!

We can corner the market on poor-fielding, speedy, frustrating non-secondbasemen.

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by oldjacket on Jul 8, 2008 1:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I would rather not invest a lot

In trying to get a player who might pull a Pena.

I mean, seriously – I would rather get some B or C level prospect than a washed up used to be prospect.

And preferably a non OF / non 2b.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 8, 2008 12:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Durham/Tasch for Hall? Makes sense for both sides if Hall is still pissed at the Brewers management.

by boonitez on Jul 8, 2008 12:37 PM PDT   0 recs

I’m not a big Hall fan, I think he’s still mostly living off of his 2006 season. If he could play SS, he’d have value, but I’m not sure he can play SS defensively.

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by xanthan on Jul 8, 2008 12:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He can barely play 3rd. I doubt he could handle SS. I agree he’s mostly living off of 06. But even then one could argue he’d be a decent short-term solution for 3rd in the interim.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 8, 2008 12:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This also sounds like the type of deal Sabean would do, provided he really don’t think Castillo is the “solution”.. What’s Hall’s contract status?

2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!

by Goofus on Jul 8, 2008 12:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

09:$6.8MM, 10:$8.4MM, 11:$9.25MM club option, $500K buyout)

by Cainer on Jul 8, 2008 1:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh. Pass.

2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!

by Goofus on Jul 8, 2008 1:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Castillo hits doubles.

by kennv on Jul 8, 2008 2:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Amazing!

It was actually scarier the second time. Yikes.

Molina's gonna test his arm...

by Victorious Secret on Jul 9, 2008 9:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

09:$6.8MM, 10:$8.4MM, 11:$9.25MM club option, $500K buyout)

by Cainer on Jul 8, 2008 1:04 PM PDT