Jose Castillo
by Mr. Clutch on Jul 6, 2008 10:12 PM PDT
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PrintHe's been better than what I've expected, he's been lightweight clutch, almost as clutch as me. He's tied for eigth in the national league with twenty four doubles and has recently played a much improved third base defensively. The Giants claimed him off waivers on March twenty second, which was a late signing as a result of the Kevin Frandsen ruptured left Achilles’ tendon (who seems to have been forgotten, wait, wait, wait, wasn't he supposed to start somewhere on the infield this year?). I've come to enjoy his energy at third laying out daily for hoppers in the 5.5 hole (to quote Tony Gwynn), as well as his aggression on the base paths, continually searching for an opportunity to take an extra base from Giants' opponents, which is a quality all current and future hitters on the Giants need to have, if this sort of "small ball" approach built on pitching and defense is going to work. I was definitely a skeptic when the Giants first calimed him just because of the eerie plate approach resemblance to the free swinging Pedro Feliz. He hasn't flashed the same potential gold glove leather as Feliz just because Cast is a natural 2B, but he's definitely been more than serviceable; he's got Mr. Clutch referring to him as "my boy" to his homies and he's got the Giant's Sabes talkin' future long term plans for the Giants third baseman. We're only halfway through the season, and his numbers can still improve or they can regress and hurt the team. Third is clearly a position where the organization can look to acquire a power hitting piece in the offseason that could launch the Giants towards the top of the National League Worst, either via free agency or via trade. I guess what I'm getting at: is he worth keeping for future years as an EVERYDAY starter?
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Nah
Castillo is pretty much a stopgap for the time being. He hasn’t been a complete disaster, but he’s definitely not the answer at third base. I’ll have to say though that I haven’t complained too much about him lately.
He's not the answer?
Then how do you explain Sabean?
“You’re seven games under .500. That’s where you don’t want to be, but I really feel good about the energy around the club and I feel good about some of our choices. We’ve now got a solution at first base. We’ve got a solution at third. We’ve gotten Omar (Vizquel) back. Freddie Lewis has come into his own and (Emmanuel) Burriss has been a real factor lately.”
We have been failing to explain Sabean for years
And what is he supposed to say? We’ve got this guy at third who pretty much sucks, but he’s all we’ve got.” ?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It's not entirely out of character.
Not in so many words, but it wouldn’t be shocking to hear him say something about how they’re “still exploring options” at third. Last year when someone asked him if Rajai Davis could be the starting CF in 2008, he laughed and said “next question”.
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Nope
Castillo has been pretty solid considering what he was, a trash heap pickup. I think Castillo’s value in the league moving forward is as a very valuable bench player due to his ability to play most of the infield positions.
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He's a downgrade from Feliz, but also significantly cheaper
The thing that bugs me is that he’s terrible with RISP (.224) and with runners on (.224). But solid with none on (.298). Also, his inconsistency on defense. He can make a good play, and than have a brain fart on the field.
Overall, I would say he is Pedro Feliz with less power, worse defensively, and worse with runners on. But he’s almost $2.5m cheaper. For the money, he’s great.
Feliz, in a hitter's park,
is hitting .262/.307/.426 with 127 TB.
Castillo at Mays Field is hitting .261/.313/.425 with 130 TB.
I will take Castillo over Feliz any day.
Pedro
RISP: .292/.322/.472
Castillo: RISP: .218/.277/.345
Pedro please.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
that could be a half-year fluke
Over their careers, they’ve been very similar with RISP
Castillo’s career RISP OPS:.742
P Fuzz’s career RISP OPS: 735
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Pedro? No,
please! It was a good day for Giants fans when he signed with the Phillies. Besides, what you are really doing is comparing a 2Bman to a 3Bman. This is exactly why I did not want to see Frandsen playing 3B. Asking any natural 2Bman to play 3rd will usually get you a drop in offensive production. But seeing that Castillo is no worse than Feliz means that letting Feliz go was a positive move for the Giants.
Defense at 3B
is not that important. There just aren’t that many chances at the position to make much of a difference. People at McCovey Chronicles consistently overrate the value of defense at 3B and overrate Feliz as a defensive player. Is Feliz better than Castillo? yes, light years better? no. Besides Castillo’s position is 2B, he’s learning a new position and improving as the season goes on. Castillo has only 4 more errors than Feliz. Feliz gets to more balls than Castillo, but only about 1 every 6+ games.
I have to disagree with you on some of your statement. Yes, 3B isn’t a key defensive position, and I don’t care if Castillo is learning a new position. The fact is, Feliz should’ve won a Gold Glove last year, and he is light years better defensively. You may argue that does not matter in your view of building a team, but it is true. The number of errors can be completely misleading. I’d rather have Castillo for $400K than Pedro for $4.5 mil, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t want to sell his skills short either.
I don't want to sell his skills short either.
Feliz is very good defensively, but I don’t see him as a defensive god either. His arm is spectacular though, I’ll give you that. But 3B is one of those positions, unlike SS, where you always take offense over defense. And this team needs offense much more than it needs anything else. Defense at 3B is a luxury if you have a team like the Phillies that has offense to spare.
I posted my comments because I felt that Castillo was being treated unfairly given all the circumstances.
Castillo is not the answer, but I shudder at the thought of some longing for Pedro Feliz. Feliz was not, is not, and never will be the answer.
I think we’re pretty close in our opinions here. I’m not saying Pedro should be a Giant either. Dude can just play the hell out of third base. All thigns being equal, I’d probably rather have Feliz than Castillo, but they’re about $4 mil from being equal.
Agreed
I think the only thing we are disagreeing about is who we’d rather have, Feliz or Castillo. At this point in Castillo’s tenure as a Giant, I still do not have to get up and leave room when he bats like I did when Feliz came to the plate.
Oh and the answer is no,
he’s not worth keeping for the future as an everyday starter. To be honest, he’s my least favorite Giants player because of his inconsistency at the plate and on the field. However, for the same salary, I wouldn’t mind him coming off the bench next season. But then I wouldn’t care if he wasn’t around either.
oh god no.
in fact, if they could trade him this year i’d hope they would. the problem is that he doesn’t have value by himself—-so i think, actually i hope, Sabean thinks outside the box of straight up trades for some kind of package deal.
I’ve fallen off the Great Leono bandwagon, for now. The power is still there, but I don’t know if he can hit enough to show it at the major league level. I still think he’s a great injury-time stop gap, super sub as the Giants consider trades. No reason to hold onto Richie, Jose or even a healed Kevin Fransden to play back-up IF (if they are asked for in a trade), when you have Leono ready to go through the infield and he can play Center. CENTER!!
Castillo hits doubles.
You don't know, I don't know
None of us know if Leone and McClain can hit at the big league level, because they haven’t been given a shot.
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It has to say something about McClain tha he’s been with seveal organizatiions, and none has given him more than a cup of coffee.
Nobody gave Jack Cust or Matt Stairs a shot either
Until the A’s finally did.
Only 884 games until the end of Zito's contract
Are you
being sarcastic? I am going to guess not.
Anyway, my take on it : in the past six years, Leone’s had 2028 PAs on the AA, AAA, and MLB level. He’s shown up with a .468 SLG, and 107 BB per 600 PA. I think it’s safe to say that the guy knows how to hit a baseball.
And honestly I don’t think that there’s something magical and ookie-spookie about the transition from AAA to MLB (Todd Linden notwithstanding). I think you stick Leone at 3B, and give him the rest of the season to average out cold streaks and hot streaks, and we’d be sure to see our share of taters and walks.
I was refering more to McClain than Leone. McClain is quite a bit older (even than me). Leone, eh. Give him a shot, I don’t really see the harm.
Todd Linden is actually one of several AAAA guys who just flamed out. I do think it’s a big leap to make, and for whatever reason not every hitter can make the jump. Don’t make me bring up JR Phillips (you know how upset he gets).
Why?
Castillo is younger, and I don’t see any reason to believe that Leone (when healthy) will out-field or out-hit him.
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The reason
is in the HR column of Leone’s statistics.
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rich aurilia full time? on a rebuilding team? he’s definitely had a resurgent year, I just think it may be time to look in a different direction. Possibly keep him as a bench utility guy. I love richie though, great giant.
We are, through no fault of our own, in the pennant race. Aurilia has put up one of the more adequate batting lines on the team with .284/ .341/ .445. I daresay he’s been one of the few Giants to drive the ball with authority AND get on base regularly. Fielding metrics say that Aurilia has been better at third, though my eyes see them as more defensive equals. (Castillo is mre likely to get to a difficult ball, but Aurilia is more reliable on routine plays, no?)
I can’t fault Bochy for getting Richie into the lineup regularly.
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assuming that the trade of Castillo+Others can't bring back a viable option at 3B immediately...
Leone, or my personal favorite, call up “DieHard” McClain.
Scott only has .300/.387/.917OPS, and at this point I think it’s fair to say if Castillo isn’t apart of the Giants future (which i don’t believe he is), then why NOT call up a mashing corner infielder…even if he is 36.
i think it’s completely legit to think that trading Castillo in a package can help the future, and replacing him with McClain’s bat (and patience, 45BBs/59Ks) helps the Giants get better now.
by ExcuseMeSwing on Jul 7, 2008 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Second base
Second base would be the best position for the light-hitting Castillo, but in the long run he likely will fall behind Nick Noonan and probably Kevin Frandsen there. If Castillo could play a better shortstop, he wouldn’t be a bad utilityman.
Couldn’t Denker hold down 3B for the rest of the year if Castillo was traded? I’ve been very frustrated by Castillo at times, but I think he’s actually played very well on the whole. I wouldn’t mind him starting if the Giants’ can find a reincarnation of Jeff Kent circa 1998 to play 2B, but that ain’t gonna happen. Castillo would be a fantastic utility player, if he would accept that role.
"Every" -day "starter"
with his cheap price tag, I think Castillo might get a chance to play everyday for the Giants in 2009. A day at third. A day at second. 4 days as pinch hitter and double switch guy.
He hasn’t got the offense or the defense to really hold onto the starting job at 3rd or 2nd in the face of a strong candidate – even one as strong as what I think Fransden could do (if healthy)- 285/345/400. On the other hand he is probably in his peak years from now to 2010, I think he could do better than he has – especially if less double play balls come off his bat, and he continues to improve at defensively at third base. It has been awhile since any Castillo hate threads have popped up. Probably partly his performance and partly our acceptance as fans of his level of output. We’ve got used to him.
If he can’t stay a starter, I think his approach at the plate could do well as a pitch hitter. He’s willing to go with the pitcher’s pitches and use the opposite field. He might excel as a late inning pinch hitter, especially when there is no one on, eliminating the chance of a double play.
I don’t really know who would trade for Castillo. Doesn’t anyone want Durham? That would clear room for the position battle royal that should be underway, between Castillo, Denker, Burriss and Velez if he continues to hit well in AAA. It would be great if one did actually stick as a cheap and decent-to-good starter for the next couple of years. I think Castillo as a double DFA still has depressed value around the league.
Castillo hits doubles.
Castillo to get better?
As much as I may lambaste SABR for not allowing a player to improve – Castillo is having the best year of his career. He is due to regress in the second half.
The most troubling thing about Castillo this year is this split:
Men on base: .221/.284/.338
Bases Empty: .294/.337/.494
RISP: .218/.277/.345
More clearly,
Bases Empy OPS .831 RISP OPS .621
The dude flat out disappears when men get on base (Not that this makes him much different from the rest of the team). His slash line of .261/.313/.425 is inflated by “worthless” at bats.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
As a comparison
John Bowker’s split:
Men On: .321/.372/.596
RISP: .344/.408/.672
Empty: .234/.261/.327
Bowker looks like fucking Bonds with RISP.
(Bonds RISP) .310/.527/.594
Oh wait, Bowker is better.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
.310/.527/.594 > .344/.408/.672.
Just sayin.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
True
And consider the difference between number of at-bats.
I love John Bowker, but saying he’s better at anything baseball-related than Bonds (besides not being Barry Bonds) is a little out there.
Only 884 games until the end of Zito's contract
Thats not really the point
I’m just saying that Castillo is Bad. When I looked up Bowkers split, I was way impressed – so I immediately tried to find the highest bar to compare it to.
Naturally, that is Bonds. I guess you could argue that OBP is better than SLG but I think you could also argue the other way.
And no, I’m not saying Bowker is better than bonds. Jesus – I’m saying that Bowkers split w/ RISP this year is better in some ways than Bonds’ split w/ RISP over his career.
And Castillo’s Split w/ RISP this year and career really sucks.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
You said "better than Bonds"
If you meant that his numbers were better than Bonds’ numbers with RISP, that is pretty much a meaningless statement considering the difference in number of at-bats.
Only 884 games until the end of Zito's contract
I know you weren’t really saying that Bowker beats Bonds. I was just saying that .310/.527/.594/.1121 > .344/.408/.672./1.080.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
Bonds insane # of IBB's inflate his OPS
And are slightly misleading. IBB’s aren’t nearly as valuable as singles. (and only about 50% as valuable as normal BB’s)
And given that Bowker basically never walks, his OPS is probably a little under-inflated.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
IBB’s are… only about 50% as valuable as normal BB’s.
Why?
And given that Bowker basically never walks, his OPS is probably a little under-inflated.
That’s just silly. Because Adam Dunn strikes-out 53% of the time, his AVG is under-inflated.
Anyway, Bowker has about 60 AB’s with RISP this year. 60 AB’s are practically meaningless.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
Because Tano-Tiger says so ?
The Run Value of a BB is 0.303
Run Value of IBB is 0.176
Run Value of a single is 0.460
So, in run values, a .300 OBP that is the product of a large # of IBB’s is less valuable than a OBP of .300 that has few BB’s (IBB or otherwise) but many hits.
60 AB’s is meaningless except that all I am stating is that Bowker HAS been better – not that he will continue to be.
But, so far this season, Bowker has put up better #’s w/ RISP than Bonds did over his career. That is just a fact. It doesn’t mean anything (except maybe hints that Bowker might have a clutch element) But it is a fun fact, which is all it was meant to be.
The original point of my post was that Castillo HAS been horrible w/ RISP so far this year while Bowker HAS been great (and in fact, better than Bonds).
No more, No less. If you want to argue the value of an IBB Vs. a single and a BB, take that up w/ Tano-Tiger, not me.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but...
...it’s only a matter of time before pitchers learn to fear the Bowk and pitch around him as much as they did Bonds.
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The most troubling thing about Castillo this year is this split:Men on base: .221/.284/.338
Bases Empty: .294/.337/.494
RISP: .218/.277/.345More clearly,
Bases Empy OPS .831 RISP OPS .621
This shouldn’t trouble you at all. It’s just noise, it means nothing going forward.
Also, what did you mean by this:
As much as I may lambaste SABR for not allowing a player to improve
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How does that mean nothing going forward?
Are Castillo’s stats somehow not a valuable predictor of his future performance?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
By "this" I meant that
I’ve argued against regression to the mean relatively recently
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Just to further explain, look at his career numbers in those situations. It’s the opposite, he gets better with runners on. I certainly don’t think he’s a better hitter with runners on, I’m just pointing out why you shouldn’t use a couple hundred ABs to make a point.
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My point
Was regarding this year, as I stated when I said “The most troubling thing about Castillo this year“
And I think it is important to note that he has been putried w/ men on this year which devalues his seemingly OK slash line.
As far as predicting the future, I think his career #’s suggest that we can expect more of the same (However I do realize that over his career his RISP split isn’t what it is this year). If we want roster filler for a sub .500 team then I guess that is okay…
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but it still doesn’t mean anything. His numbers this year, in those situations, don’t mean a thing for the rest of this year. Hitting with runners on is just a bad way to evaluate a player.
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Castillo has been adequate . . .
. . .and he’s young enough that he may improve. Remember, he’s younger than Fred Lewis!
I don’t really have any problem with the way the Giants have been using him, essentially as Bowker’s platoon partner. I wouldn’t rule him out for next year, but I think he’s a stopgap until he proves otherwise.
Every time I think he’s making progress on defense he makes me regret my faith in him.
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If by adequate
You mean he stands at 3rd base and only makes an error every 13 plays then sure.
At least he doesn’t cost much doing it.
I especially like how he ranges to his left and dives on balls that should be played by the SS, causing them to go for hits.
At least he usually misses on his dive and the ball rolls through into Omar’s glove.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Not when you are picking it out of the SS's zone.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong,
but the number of chances are the total of put-outs, assists, and errors. If I’m right about this then Castillo makes an error every 18 chances, not 13.
he's having a career year
and this is about as good as it could get. keep him for cheap, but he isn’t a long or shorter (2009) term answer.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 7, 2008 8:45 AM PDT reply actions
at age 26 a “career year” is much more likely to indicate a new performance level.
Unfortunately a career year for Jose Castillo is still a performance barely above bench level.
you can't block the Bocock
he’s 27, if you believe he hasn’t fudged his age.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 7, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
1 word: you never know
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 7, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
but you’re right about Castillo’s best being subpar.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 7, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he could fit into plans for 2009 and beyond at the right price.
As other have said, he’s got value as a utility infielder. It’s also unlikley that the team will fill all the holes in the infield with blue-chippers this off-season.
I’d offer him a 2-year deal wtih a slight raise and playing time incentives and tell him he can compete for a starting job at 2B and/or 3B. If he’s able to beat out guys like Frandsen, Denker, Velez and whoever else they can bring in, he’s get playing time and more money. I’d imagine that would be pretty attractive to a guy wondering where his paychecks were going to come from as this season was getting ready to start.
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Good points, Goofus. Castillo might make a prudent insurance policy; the kind that wasn’t in place when Frandsen went down.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 7, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the idea, but I worry that Bochy will stick with him regardless of whether or not he deserves the PT. Sometimes, it can work out like with Aurilia this year, but it could also turn out like Vizquel.
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In my opinion, mostly the fact that so many try to attach positive value to him (he hits doubles, he’s not so bad!, we got him for free, etc.) when he’s not that good. He’s a weak fielder and he doesn’t hit, what am I missing?
Sure, he’s an OK warm body to stick at 3rd for THIS year but the amount of people who wouldn’t mind bringing him back in ‘09 is what really makes me scratch my head.
Oh yeah, that.
I feel the same way. He was DFA’ed – TWICE. He is too shitty for Both the Pirates and the Marlins.
Is the Bar for the Giants really that low ?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Well then fuck
Where do I try out?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You have to wait
Howie’s got first dibs.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
I also have chocolate dibs and mint chip dibs.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think many (if any) are suggesting we bring him back as a full time starter, but he does have some value as a utility man, being able to play 2b, 3b and even SS in a pinch.
i guess the point is
would you rather have a 28 year old Castillo for $750k or a 38 year old Aurilia for $2-3 million
But that is not the question
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
But but
Straw men are so much easier!
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s also not as good as Fred Lewis. Fred Lewis is also pretty cheap, too. And he wears bad-ass shades!
I just don’t want any part of him, even in a utility role. I’ll take Ochoa or any other warm body in AAA or off the wire over Castillo. If he’s stretched as a 3B, I don’t want to see him at SS. He’s played 8 career games at SS.
I think what we’re seeing is the “peak” Castillo and it’s not likely to get any better.
Cheap, younger, and shittier.
What is the point? The underlying problem with Castillo is that he has demonstrated, in 4 ML seasons, that he is not a very good player.
So while he may be similar in age to our “prospects” In ML age he is a 4 year veteran with a consistent track record of (lack of) production.
I would rather try someone who hasn’t proven that they sucked yet.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
younger by 4 months
and he’ll never be as good as Lewis is right now.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 7, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
That role
Describes Travis Denker, Manny Burriss, Kevin Frandsen, and Eugenio Velez as well (to varying degrees).
None of them has the established track record of suck that Jose Castillo does. None of them may be a better answer, but it is pretty likely that one of them is at least as good.
I think the thing that bothers me most about Castillo on this team is that he is taking AB’s away from these guys. I would much rather see Denker play 3b and get the AB’s than Castillo, for example.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to see
Denker get regular ABs at Fresno for the rest of the year, then come back next year during ST to have a 3 way fight between him, Frandsen and Castillo for 2B/3B, with the loser getting the utility role, rather than having Denker learn a new position at the ML level this year
yes!!!!
except throw castillo to the curb regardless of ST performance, because ST means absolutely nothing, and frandsen might even struggle initially from missing a year of baseball. if he has 40 crappy AB’s, his spring is crap. didn’t it take 25 for the powers that be decided that ortmeier couldn’t be a starter anymore?
Bengie Molina: stretching doubles into singles since 1998.
but he’s a Giant! I try and attach positive value on all of them! I’d rather root for them than just sorta ignore them. I think thats a part of the “complex.” In my case it is anyways.
And he’s my adopted player. Grabbed him when the Giants signed him. Ima jsut trying to start my own “pretty okay” catch phrase.
Castillo hits doubles.
He's a Giant
but he still sucks.
He’s not really part of the family – more like that rebound girl you nailed a couple days after the breakup. It was the best you could do on a limited schedule – and had it’s moments of interest, but deep down you know that it’s just not going to do you any good in the long run.
Hit it and quit it I say. Castillo is here only until there is someone else to fill the role.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Hit it and quit it I say. Castillo is here only until there is someone else to fill
the role.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Now just the ladies!
Hit it and quit it I say. Castillo is here only until there is someone else to fill the holerole.
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It's hard to believe that so much time is spent discussing this player
it should be universally recognized that Castillo is a below average player who is being used as a stopgap measure at a position in which the organizational depth is basically zero (above A ball – maybe Rohlinger in AA?). Here’s a guy who couldn’t cut it on the Pirates or Marlins and is, at best, a utility bench player having his best season ever, and is still only OPS+’ing 93. Regardless of his age, he’ll never be more than a below average player offensively or defensively and when the Giants are good again, he won’t be on the team.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 7, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm having a really hard time
Seeing “Jose Castillo” and “Mr. Clutch” in such close proximity in the list of Fanposts.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Castillo is a stop gap…but I don’t just run for the razors when he comes to the plate like I do with Vizquel. It could be worse. I’ll take it for now at this price.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
I keep wanting to believe that he’s a stopgap, but then Bochy starts talking about giving him a shot at 3B for upcoming seasons.
If we’re gonna have a poor/middling defensive 3B, than it should at least be one that has a bit of pop. Just because Castillo’s cheap doesn’t mean I’m gonna like him. I’ll tolerate him IF it looks like mgmt is serious about filling that gaping hole on the field and in the line-up. That’s as far as I can go.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
I think we should be spending more time thinking about replacements for Castillo. With a solid 3B and 1B, this team only looks half bad.
Bengie Molina: stretching doubles into singles since 1998.
At least
Against right handers. Who knows against lefties – since apparently Bochy has decided we will never find out.
Maybe Boch is planning a Bowker/Ort Platoon @ 1st… I’m sure that is it!
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
if by solid
you mean “barely adequate”. He’s 19th in baseball in EQA among 1B with equal or more PAs.
Rich Aurillia is out hitting him.
I don’t have a huge problem with Bowker as a starting 1B, even vs RHP only… but he’s not exactly average for a 1B.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
19th could be deceiving depending on Std Dev
What is average EQA for 1b?
Where are you getting your EQA’s from, btw?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 7, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The average EQA for a 1B is .276. Bowker is at .270. That makes him an above average hitter, but a below average 1B. I really like Bowker, and I think he could get better, but I still wouldn’t call him a solid 1B.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
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