Manny to the Bums
by Rusty the Robot on Jul 31, 2008 2:18 PM PDT
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Can't wait for him to whine about agreeing to decline arbitration and losing his option years. Dude is going to be in for a rude awakening during the offseason.
Also, this is going to suck for all the other outfielders not named Manny Ramirez.
Think the Dodgers make the playoffs?
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Well, assuming the Dodgers go with a Manny, Kemp, Ethier outfield, it’s hard to not see them as vastly improved. However, that won’t happen, and either Kemp or Ethier will be benched in favor of Pierre and Jones. They are still much better though and probably are the favorites in the West at this point.
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by marcello on Jul 31, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of the bums...
I think it was Steve Berthiaume on SportsCenter the other night when they were breaking down the NL West race. Whether intentional or not, he referred to the Dodgers as the bums. I almost fell off my couch. It went something like this:
“Now two teams in the NL West at .500 or above. The D-backs holding on to first place with the bums just a game back.”
Anyone else hear it???
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not that unusual. It is a very old and widely recognized moniker for them.
Dates back to Brooklyn, “Dem Bums,” and all that? History? Anyone? Anyone?
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 31, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers were named after the vagrants that would sleep in the middle of busy trolley car tracks. The bums would eventually have to dodge the trolley cars and voila, you have an origin story.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, thanks, but that's not what I meant.
By “History?” I wasn’t asking for the history (you’re not quite correct… but on the right TRACK. HEY!), but rather saying that others should recognize that “Bums” is a historical and long-standing reference to the Dodgers, so when some smartass in the media says “Bums,” it’s old.
Another news flash: “Jints” is sometimes used derogatorily for “Giants.” Granted, usually by people who then go on to complain that Herbert Hoover is going to drive the economy off a cliff in his Lasalle.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 31, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
Those people were totally right.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
by groug on Jul 31, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going for smartassery, Mayor. My bad, I read it wrong.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell is Herbert Hoover?
;-)
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Jul 31, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
by Lyle on Jul 31, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t need no welfare state.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
by achiappanza on Jul 31, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody pulled his weight.
Arizona thinks we're Washington which thinks we're Arizona.
by victor frankenstein on Jul 31, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See? And we're right back to the Lasalle again. It's the circle of regurgitation.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 1, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
My roommate and I (both 25 y.o. life-long Jints fans) were astounded. I mean, we call them bums but had no idea we’d hear it on ESPN.
Mayor: That’s good knowledge.
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Playoffs? Yeah, sure, probably. To NLCS? Nope.
To Game 5 of the Division Series, even? Nope.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny/ Broxton/ Billingsley/ Andruw. I just feel bad for the catering staff.
by biff pocoroba on Jul 31, 2008 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.
by Kitspool on Jul 31, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what? I think Manny wanted to decline arbitration and the option years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
or else Boras does
Being new representation, Scotty doesn’t make any commission off Manny’s options. Only a new contract will produce revenue for the Boras Corp.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on Jul 31, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This, I believe, is the crux of the situation. Excellent observation, as always, Roger.
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
by Lyle on Jul 31, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
The Pirates made out like kings in this deal. Moss, Hanson, LaRoche plus a fourth for Jason Bay? That’s some serious sit around and let ‘em sweat deal making.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think all the teams made good deals in this trade. Apparently the two prospects the Red Sox gave up weren’t part of their overall plan.
by cheno on Jul 31, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is worse:
http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/davis_lad_080730_6.jpg
More reason to boo this bum when he comes play us.
by ejdacanay on Jul 31, 2008 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clips
The Clips are gunna suck anyway. I hope the W’s go out and give Shaun Livingston though. That would be kick ass if he rocked it and in the same game Baron’s leg falls off and Livingston went for 20-10 and said Cuck the Flippers.
by Big Daddy J on Jul 31, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Dodgers waited til the Giants rolled in town just to rub it in.
by faust10 on Jul 31, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BD
Good luck trying to win with the Clips. What a joke…they’re the SF Giants of the NBA.
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good move for Boston and Pittsburgh. Dumb for LA. As usual.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 31, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Opposite
Actually I think ned did a good job on this one. They are paying him nothing and they are going to get two months of attention from all over the country for Andy LaCrap and some dude who just came off of Tommy John surgery. Plus they get two picks for Manny. I still think that the D-Backs pitching will hold off the Fodgers. Duck em.
by Big Daddy J on Jul 31, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See your assuming Ned won’t pick up Manny’s 2 year option at 20 mill per. I think he will, especially if Manny hits for LA over the next 2 months. Its a team option too so Manny really has no say, and I doubt Manny will have a huge market anyway on the open market. I think the Dodgers could have done better with the prospects they traded + another prospect or two for some younger talent that would remain with the team longer.
All this does is take playing time away from talented youngsters and give the team a false sense of contending while weakening their farm system. I’m just fine with that as a Giants fan and love what Agent Ned did in that aspect. But if I was a Dodger fan I’d be pissed off.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 31, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the two options years were eliminated from Manny’s contract as part of the deal (that was his condition for accepting the trade). Also, he agreed to decline arbitration, thus guaranteeing the 2 draft picks.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s only because Manny wants MORE money. As for arbitration that can’t be decided until after the season. I can totally see Ned resigning him and giving him way too much money. Which is fine by me. Again I’d be pissed if I was a Dodger fan. He’s more reckless than Sabean.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 31, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, they can decide that in the off-season, but Dodger fans don’t have to worry about him picking up the options because they no longer exist
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCourt is not going to let Ned add another 20MM OF'er
The McCourts are not going to let Ned invest 20 million in to another outfielder(theyre already pretty pissed about the other shitty signings hes made). The redsox are paying his entire salary right now so his salary is not a problem. Unless they get Jones off their salary somehow, manny is pretty much gone.
Also, If the Dodgers have any problems with their farm system(which I don’t believe they do), theyre going to have a ish load of type A/B free agents this offseason to help them restock their system.
Unless Andy LaRoche becomes the next Mike Schmidt, I really don’t see the downside to this deal for LA. They’re not paying him, he lost all his team options and he HAS to decline arbitration.
by superk1ng on Jul 31, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
he ain’t coming back, so I don’t see what the possible downside is to this deal (other than possibility that he or Jeff Kent kill each other).
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Pretty riskless and fun move by Ned.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
by achiappanza on Jul 31, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a 2 year option.
It is 2 options, for one year each. Meaning the team could have gone year to year with him. Which means the moment that he looks like he is toast, he’s gone.
Going year to year with Manny for $20M is far better than giving some ridonkulous contract to Mark Teixeira.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on Aug 1, 2008 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Ned!
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on Jul 31, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I do think this puts the Dodgers in the playoffs, but I don’t think it’s enough to help them beat the Cubs/Brewers/Phils/Mets whenever they get there.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jul 31, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
countdown to Manny choking Kent
in 5…4…3…2…
by ExcuseMeSwing on Jul 31, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll convert to whatever religion He wants
if this comes to pass
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus Manny’s not a REAL dodger, so I feel like if this did happen a little piece of me could cheer for him
by ExcuseMeSwing on Jul 31, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or at least maybe now would be the appropriate time for the patented SF Giants Fan Golf Clap we apparently do
by ExcuseMeSwing on Jul 31, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would enjoy this with a nice Pinot Noir.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
by groug on Jul 31, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roto rootin'
I’ve enjoyed Manny and Thome since picking them up in roto in 1994. I did like those good Albert Belle Tribe years.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
by achiappanza on Jul 31, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEY!
Jeff Kent is an honest professional who doesn’t watch porn. We shouldn’t make fun of him, he’s a class act in the clubhouse!
Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!
by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no
he doesn’t LOOK at porn. Watching is a different story. But he also doesn’t do drugs or drink alcohol.
by boonitez on Jul 31, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
am i wrong
or does Kent look like the prototypical “guy at the far end of the bar at 2 AM looking mischeviously at any woman that happens to walk in” ?
Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!
by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he really should start watching porn rather than doing that. That is what I do
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like this guy
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
NOW I hate Manny.
I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..
by lmaozedong on Jul 31, 2008 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this alot for the Doyers. I think everyone forgets how freaking good Manny is.
by Nellieball on Jul 31, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great trade for the Bums. If Manny stays healthy the Dodgers have the bat they needed, and it will be everyone else in the rear view mirror.
Gawd, the thought of the Dodgers in the post-season makes me sick.
by Sayhey on Aug 1, 2008 1:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What do y'all make of this?
http://www.projo.com/redsox/content/sp_bb_red_sox_trade01_08-01-08_O7B2I4V_v19.40422d2.html
General manager Theo Epstein was working with a mandate from within his own clubhouse. After his team’s dispiriting loss to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim on Wednesday night, Epstein met with a handful of Red Sox veterans, all of whom delivered the same message: Manny had to go.
etc.
My bullshit-meter is in the red.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Aug 1, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the matter with Manny??
...
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Aug 1, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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