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Open Trade Deadline Thread, 7/31

For an opinionated jerkbag like myself, this might be the most exciting Giants trade deadline ever. The Giants aren't going to make any huge trades -- maybe Rich Aurilia here, or Jack Taschner there -- but they aren't going to get any future stars.

No, it's exciting because now we get to see if the Giants really are going to sit the veterans who aren't traded. If the veterans sit, we get to watch youngsters find their way. If the veterans play, I have the right to be the loudest bloviating jerkbag on the internet. It should be fun. Righteous indignation...spittle-flecked keyboards...saber rattling.... I'm in. Because if Omar Vizquel starts more than one game in any of the remaining series, I'm a mailing a severed ear to someone. It might be mine, and it might not be. And, really, a third of the remaining games would still be too many, so I think I'm being more than fair.

My prediction: Richie for an A-baller, and everyone else stays.

My other prediction: We actually will see more of the rookies.

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Ummm

there’s already one of these. Should I introduce you to the Recommended Diaries section, Grant?

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh snap. Thats right, he went there.

I am Cameron Wood and this is my son and business partner CW Culberson.

by camwoody on Jul 31, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s already an Open Trade Deadline Thread, 7/31? I don’t put dates on the end of my titles for gits and shiggles.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who’re you calling a shiggle?

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 31, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t we all just get along?

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does it hurt to bloviate?

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

My prediction: Castillo, Vizquel, et al keep playing every day after the deadline because “we need to showcase them for the waiver-deadline.”

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I say they keep playing because “we’re trying to put our best team on the field,” or some such comparably clueless Bochy quote.

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 31, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

And they will end up saying they need to do this all the way up to the season, because they have to “play the game the right way” so as not to impact playoff races. This shit was old in 2005, its inexcusable now.

by out machine on Jul 31, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look every game I’ve been to the attendance was over 32,000. Why change anything if the tickets are sold. And yes this is me at my most cynical, since nothing was done yesterday.

by timmeh on Aug 1, 2008 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1,000,000

Can I get a job with the Giants? As a player, coach, manager, front office, it seems that lack of performance is not only well-tolerated, it is often rewarded.

by Cleophus on Aug 1, 2008 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

We just need to win!

I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..

by lmaozedong on Jul 31, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

(lol)

I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..

by lmaozedong on Jul 31, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take it one step further: they’ll say we need to play them to showcase them for the waiver deadline, but they’ll also say that they have no intention of trading any of them because we need them for next year.

The running of this franchise defies parody.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they think that they are raising the price other teams will pay, by employing this strategy. This, of course, assumes that the Giants management actually has brains that work the same way as the ones we use.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

SJ Giants

Sorry for busting in here, I’ve got an OT question that I’m wondering about. I’m going to the SJ Giants game this afternoon, is there any player there that I should keep an eye out for?

And to keep the ball rolling, I heard on the radio a few days ago someone called Cain, Lincecum and Molina “untouchable.” Lincecum yeah, I see that, but it seems like Cain could bring in quite a few prospects, enough to perhaps accelerate the development of the offense by one draft. And Molina as untouchable? That’s just crazy talk.

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Well

With Cain being a third starter at best, he probably wouldn’t bring back much. They’d be lucky to get someone like….well, off the top of my head, Mike Jacobs.

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

3rd starter at best?

On the Giants, or on any team? You must mean on the Giants. That’s just incorrect. This year, Cain has a 116 ERA+, 138/58 K/BB and a 1.274 WHIP. Sanchez has 93, 126/63, 1.447.. Also I read yesterday that Sanchez has had an 8.xx ERA over the last month, so maybe he was just playing over his head at the beginning of the year. Cain is the #2, no question.

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

pstt

joke….read around the threads. You’ll understand

Bill Mueller? I expect at least A-Rod type numbers from my son, Conor Gillaspie

by Gamer101 on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

also:

caveat sarchasm

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

n00b

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I sure am. And I’m a Dodger fan too. :O

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'd make that face if I was a Lasorda lover, too.

Probably shoot myself and feed myself to Tommy as well

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah

That’s what I love about Giants fans, all class.

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

on a side note
beach balls = class
showing up in the third and leaving in the seventh = class
Jeff Kent = class

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I said about Dodgers fans at Dodgers Stadium.

I guess it’s okay to be called a Chink in that stadium.

BTW how’s Tommy’s son doing?

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

And thus concludes this episode of Tales from the Typical Sports Fan Forum.

Clinojim didn’t start the fire. It was always burning something something. We’re too snobby and elitist to get into a YouTube-style comment war.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well he should’ve directed his bitching to me if he had a problem, not the rest of you guys.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s the thing: There’s nothing better on a sports board than friendly ribbing. A Dodgers fan who can prove that he isn’t a dickbag is a very valuable thing…for us to poop on. Metaphorically, and in good humor, but still….

There used to be a Dodgers fan who hung around the Giants newsgroup, and everyone got along great with him. And that’s where the best trash talking came from. Most opposing fans snooping around don’t have good intentions, but the ones who do are fun.

Moral of my tale: Let those who are bags of dicks prove themselves to be bags of dicks before flaming them.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now be gone with you, or I shall taunt you a 2nd time!!

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

My buddy convinced me to become a basketball fan when I moved to SLC. I followed the Jazz because he did. Then, I attempted to make him a baseball fan, and he is, but just to spite me, he became a Dodger fan. He’s just a son of a bitch like that.

In anyy event, he posted a blog today to try to piss me off. It says something about the Dogs shutting us out.

In the spirit of good natured ribbing, I thought it could be rather hilarious if I could get a bunch of people to comment on his blog talking shit. Now, I would ask that people be at least somewhat nice, as he is my buddy. But, it could be rather funny. And who doesn’t like giving shit to a Dodger fan?

If you’d like to, http://timglennofglendora.blogspot.com/2008/07/good-old-days.html

If not, cool.

Thanks.

"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.

by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry Grant

Didn’t mean to stir things up. I’ll get out ofhere now and let the trade deadline work itself out. Thanks for the tips, I’ll watch for Downs and D’Alessio.

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leave Clinojim alone... RIGHT... NOW!!

I mean it!

That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!

by tobias on Jul 31, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t you be in your Losers Anonymous meeting?

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

—-—-—-—-—-——->

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will never tire of enjoying that picture.

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

So what the hell happened to Lasorda in this pic anyway? He looks like one hell of a break dancer to me!

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly

He dropped his Dodger Dog and in his eagerness, attempted a flip to retrieve it. Right?

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now it all makes sense. But it makes me laugh big time to think that was the seventh inning stretch and he was singing take me out to the ballgame while break dancing, like Justin Timberlake and shit!

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was coaching 3rd in an all-star games a few years ago and tried to back-peddle to get out of the way of a ball coming at him. His legs don’t move like they apparantly once used to and he went ass-over-tea-kettle. I just tried but couldn’t find it on youtube

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by Goofus on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

::Holds up the garlic and wooden cross::

You shall be defeated!

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"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!

by WalrusMan on Jul 31, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

Matt Cain sucks

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

SJ Giants

There are quite a few really good players on the San Jose Team, too many really. Tons of speed in the outfield, as well as some of the infielders. Not to mention their pitchers – with Tim Alderson as an example. He is awesome. They are moving players around a bit, maybe to be seen for trades? I don’t know. D’Alessio has been starting at first base, and he has pretty much been their DH all year – don’t know what’s up with that one. But you will see a lot of talent. Hopefully they can complete the 4-game series with another win today.

by flyonthewall on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jackson Williams

hehe

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Downs is well regarded around here. I like Andy D’Alessio. And basically you can’t go wrong with any of the starting pitchers.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah look for Jose Castillo

he’s a pretty good AA baller. Oh wait he’s our effing starting 2nd basemen and he hits second!!!! He’s craptastic…AT BEST!!!!111oneone

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala

by jhiat00 on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Before I go to sleep (it’s 1:26 A.M. in South Korea), I just crossed my finger for our future. I hope to I can make big smile on my face when I get up and check the news.

This is all I can say: Go Giants !

Giants the never sunset.

by aras on Jul 31, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I think everyone will stay, with Aurilia being the only one who might possibly go, but i wouldn’t be surprised if he stays as well. I also think the veterans will keep on playing after the deadline because they still did last year & Bochy is an idiot!

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by GiantFan on Jul 31, 2008 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

what in the wild wild world of sports is a-goin' on here?

i hired you fellas to get some trades done, not to sit around like a bunch of Kansas City ____. (fill in the blank)

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Gotcha covered

i hired you fellas to get some trades done, not to sit around like a bunch of Kansas City Royal Fart Chiefs.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

I lol’ed at your Slim Pickens.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

'Scuse me mr taggert sur,

Can I have some more beans.

Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.

by Andy from DC on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

mongo LIKE veteran savvy

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d say you’ve had enough!

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone Stays

That’s my feeling. Sadly.

And Bochy’s too old-school to sit the vets. He wants to “respect the game”. I’d prefer he chose to respect me by not forcing me to watch Omar Vizquel hit.

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Trouble is

Bochy considers someone like Castillo a vet that needs to be respected. That wouldn’t happen on any other team, but Sabean allows it because Sabean’s the kind of guy who paid Dave Roberts a whole ton of cash in a nonsensical contract.

Sabean likes to overpay mediocre and over-the-hill talent.
Bochy likes to overplay mediocre and over-the-hill talent.

Sadly for us, they’re a match made in heaven.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm getting sick of Buster Olney

He can’t get over this Manny thing, and how “unworkable” the situation is, and how there’s a 1% chance he finishes the season with Boston. He went on to essentially tell Steve Phillips that he was completely off base. Um, who is the former GM? Who has previous experience dealing with players and making deals at the deadline? I’m not a Phillips apologist, and I don’t think he was great, but I think that his perspective is refreshing.

Between that, and Olney’s accusation that MLBtraderumors.com does retro-timestamps to seem like they broke the story first, this guy’s ego is WAY too big and needs to be brought back to reality.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

You think Steve Phillips’s perspective is refreshing? Really?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

His theory on blown saves is, what I thought, refreshing.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s cool to have a former GM doing some reporting. Beats all the other talking heads they put out there.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to concede that I don’t know his views on the subject.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

crap, that was supposed to be a reply to SoFa King Mike, sorry.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah. Maybe he was kickin it with Rick Sutcliffe between innings.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Steve Phillips

The fact that trading Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano earns you a spot on Baseball Tonight instead of a spot on baseball’s blacklist under Jose Canseco speaks volumes about ESPN.

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

he was gone when that trade was made. I believe Duquette was the genius responsible for that one.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are right!

I need a new reason to hate Phillips now.

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

I shoulda know that all I really needed to do was wiki Steve Phillips and I’d discover something shitty about his life.

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fucking creep.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

also...

Didn’t Harold Reynolds get axed from ESPN for similar allegations of harassment?

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

He sexually harassed Steve Phillips…SOMEONE had to go.

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

technically, they were sexually harassing each other and Harold lost the coin flip…

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a matter of time until Phillips hits on Olney.

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, who wouldn’t!

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always laugh about Reynolds’ harassment case because it supposedly happened at an Outback.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t beat Burger King. You know you can get a refill on any drink you want?

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a wonderful restaurant!

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

A, to be a former major leaguer…

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

So it wasn’t one of those scenarios where Harold was Xeroxing his ass and putting copies in everyone’s cubicle?

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah and that made me really sad. I always liked Harold. I’d hug him too, but not at work. You don’t hug co-workers.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

At the Outback you do! Nothing like a nice, long embrace after finishing a Bloomin’ Onion.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hugged my former boss when we went to a luncheon thingy a few months ago. I guess that was a legal hug.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

he was a Sabeanic GM

from his wiki page

Phillips is also credited with acquiring aging and ineffective players with large contracts like Mo Vaughn, Roberto Alomar, Pedro Astacio, Mike Bordick, Bobby Bonilla, Rickey Henderson, Kenny Rogers, Jeromy Burnitz and Kazuo Matsui.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

And to clarify

that is Jim Duquette, not Dan Duquette.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Aug 1, 2008 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

tbf, that wasn’t his idea.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

by which I mean, he wasn’t GM when it happened.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

no

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

No Tasch to the Marlins

Marlins just got Arthur Rhodes from Seattle for prospect Gaby Hernandez.

Nice trade for the Mariners…I wouldn’t have minded Hernandez for Tasch.

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by BruteSentiment on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I have the feeling we aren’t making ay more trades, Unfortunately.

Hopefully I’m being unreasonably pessimistic. I mean, I know I’m being pessimistic: I predicted the Padres would sweep us in yesterday’s gameday thread. I just hope my current pessimism proves unreasonable.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

pessimism?

a sweep would be cause for celebration. commence operation strasburg forthwith!

by cornball on Jul 31, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

everyone stays

we’ll need them next season to lose 98 games instead of 101 games.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Is this where I log my disapproval of Jose Castillo?

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t think that there is a wrong place to log your disapproval of Jose Castillo. I think there are better places. Like Bochy’s office. Sabean’s office.

"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.

by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh heh

you said “log”

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Log.....

rolls down stairs
rolls over in pairs
rolls over your neighbor’s dog

it’s fit for a snack
it fits on your back
it’s log log log

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala

by jhiat00 on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I, for one, won’t be sad if Tasch stays. If the return sucks, then keep him. He is good, young, and under club control until 2011 (I think).

by tyrannoman on Jul 31, 2008 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

No trades

We need these guys for our pennant run.

I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..

by lmaozedong on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Gotta keep our 0.3% chance of winning the division alive!

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Sabean, Is that you?

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Griffey to White Sox, anyone? Anyone see that coming?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080731&content_id=3230331&vkey=trade2008&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."

by capnk on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

The hubby’s recently from Cincy, and when I told him that rumor, he said “Pfffffft, they say they are going to trade him every year!” Boy will he be shocked that they actually did it!

by Merope on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the Giants continue to play the old farts after the deadline, I’m going to start my own letter writing campaign, well okay, I’m cheap, maybe I’ll use postcards… all I’ll write: “Play the Kids!” sent to 24 Willie Mays Plaza by me and 100 of my closest friends.

They blamed “our” complaining for getting rid of Benito… what the hell…

by Merope on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought it was Benitez who Sabean was “forced” to trade by mean fans. Did he use that line for not re-signing Santiago too?

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was, I should know better than to type on 4 hours sleep. Sorry.

by Merope on Jul 31, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow… You got rid of Mussolini?

"Ice is made for two things: injuries and my drinks." The Lincecums

by igotnothing on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best thing I read all morning
The Red Sox will continue shopping Manny regardless, with the Dodgers and a mystery team in the mix. The Dodgers might be willing to part with Matt Kemp.

Bullshit or not, I really don’t care. :)

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let it be known

This is the day I made Grant beg

“You call that begging? You can beg better than that” -Gogo Yubari

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice

i watch too many movies

by CB30 on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

That made me hehehe out loud.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

my fantasy team would definitely approve of that trade.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

if that happens, my fanpost is soooooo vindicated. i can hear the cheesy dashboard song in my head now.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers got Manny

It happened, but they didn’t give up Kemp. Dodger fans I know are surprisingly nonplussed. I think we could trade them Omar.

"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002

by achiappanza on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unsuccessful attempt at thread jacking!

How or why or when are the Giants almost entirely unlike happy kitten birthdays?

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions  

made up trade idea

since today is the day to make up trades, here is one from my imagination:

the Twins are interested in Aurilia and one of the guys they are making available is Craig Monroe

the Rays are interested in acquiring Monroe

what it the Giants trade Aurilia for Monroe and then trade Monroe and Taschner for Reid Brignac. Do you think the Rays would make that trade?

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

...no

they wouldn’t trade Brignac for Bay.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was some of the pitching prospects, not Brignac, that de-railed that trade

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

In any case, the Rays have apparently labeled Brignac untouchable. They are not going to trade him for a LOOGY and Craig Monroe (who is awful.)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think of Taschner as more than a LOOGY. He’s pretty good at retiring righties.

Adoptive father of howtheyscored. The beatings will begin momentarily.

by Goofus on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still….. not going to be traded for Reid Brignac.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

and RHH are hitting .286/.367/.457 off him this year.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s actually not bad for a shortstop. If he pitched full time, those numbers would go down.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

And here’s a source that said they refused to include Brignac in a deal for Bay:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/07/29/heyman.tradeblog/index.html?eref=T1

Tampa has refused to include big shortstop prospect Reid Brignac in the Bay deal.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha, and here is a source that says the opposite, so who the hell knows

Clubs that have spoken with Tampa Bay say the Rays might be willing to build a trade around shortstop prospect Reid Brignac and one of the most enormous pitching prospects in the game, Jeff Niemann. But if the Pirates keep asking for David Price, Wade Davis and Jeremy Hellickson - three of the most highly regarded pitchers in any team’s system -

you might very well be right that they wouldn’t make that trade, but most of what I have read hasn’t said Brignac is untouchable.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s from yesterday, Heyman’s blurb is from this morning.

And untouchable or not, there’s no way in hell they’re trading him for Jack Taschner and Craig Monroe.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

he did go 2 for 4 with a 2B and a HR for Durham last night, so maybe they changed their mind after that.

ok, time to make up a new trade

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

my point was not so much that they weren’t ever going to trade Brignac ever, but that they wouldn’t trade him in your proposed deal.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

right, I know, I am just having some fun with it

but you did say they wouldn’t trade him for Bay. ha ha

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Heyman said it

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

so Jayson Stark defeats Jon Heyman today

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN!!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

STEEL CAGE DEATH MATCH

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.

by groug on Jul 31, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun Manny Ramirez story

I lived in Western Massachusetts for a year after college, and one day, while in Boston, I went on a ballpark tour of Fenway. The tour guide told a story from just after the Red Sox acquired Ramirez. The team was leaving on a road trip, and he left his car at the ballpark. He asked a ballpark employee to get the car washed while they were gone. The employee said sure, and asked for a few bucks to pay for it. Apparently, Ramirez said, “Oh, I left some cash in the glove compartment. Just pay from that an keep whatever’s left over for your troubles.” When the employee took the car to the car wash and checked the glove compartment, there was a few thousand dollars in cash.

A, to be a major leaguer.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

“Ah, to be a major leaguer,” I meant to say.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did Manny throw him on the ground when he found a dirt spot on his car?

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wash car = dispose of the body in the trunk.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would definitely take it to the next level as an anecdote.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The real story

Manny told the employee to wash his truck.

by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

And the poor kid broke his wrist!

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would wash his car

...and by wash his car mean punch him in the face

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala

by jhiat00 on Jul 31, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

one summer i worked at a movie theater in downtown boston and manny – as well as a few other sox players – lived in a luxury condo hgih-rise across the street. one day manny came in with his wife to see a movie. i was working concessions (worst effing job i’ve ever had) and waited on them. his wife is really nice, and easy on the eyes. manny didn’t say a word. it was weird.

by cornball on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noah Lowry

too bad he isn’t healthy, or we could be talking about dealing him.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Remember when were talking about Noah being part of a trade package for Joe Crede?

Yeah, that was awesome.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember when Noah Lowry was really good in 2005 and gave us all hope?

Yeah, that was awesome.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

And then we heard all of those pitches hit the backstop on MLB Radio during Spring Training.

Yeah, that was awesome. Not so much.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am still rooting for Lowry and Foppert comebacks

And it has nothing to do with the fact that they are on two of my four signed baseballs.

"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002

by achiappanza on Jul 31, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schulman won’t make any deals? That’s a relief…

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Goddamn lack of editing capabilities.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

motherfuck an indefinite antecedent

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m very happy we are hanging onto Randy Winn.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

y?

we could get rid of him 8.5 million for next year call up Nate who would outplay Winn without a doubt and add more power to lineup good speed cannon arm so please explain? unless you are Brian Sabean

by caincecum on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Randy Winn plays the game the right way and is a good clubhouse leader.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

With that, and one or two more CF…

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

if u ran the giants...............

half the fan base would be insane by now chances are you think Zito is “still an ace”

by caincecum on Jul 31, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is just the kind of analysis we would expect from someone who names himself after as shitty a starter as Matt Cain.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

u really think cain is shitty?

ur an idiot 5th in all of baseball in K’s and is wat only 24? with a 3.7 era far from shitty do us a favor and go back to bed

by caincecum on Jul 31, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Utter garbage. We should trade him—-but who on earth would want him?

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

methinks

and, mind you, this be just a theory, you is being played.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

um… third starter at best?

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's what she said?

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

AT BEST!!!

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 31, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahah ok

my bad took it to serioulsly but is this winn lover serious?

by caincecum on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would guess…no, he’s probably not. He is doing a fine old timey baseball thinking impression.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come on dude, wake up and smell the roses, Cain is horrible.

His stuff is bad and you should feel bad.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Barry Zito is an ace, he just needs to stop thinking about his big contract and starting pitching!

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahah

Wanna hear a fun fact Zito’s ERA: 5.8
K’s 71 walks 68
120 hits in 108 ip
u my friend are an idiot

by caincecum on Jul 31, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dood. 118 career wins. GAMER

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm...

Without a doubt? Bold.

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now we wait and see if Bochy continues to “showcase” Castillo at 2nd.

by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised that there isn’t ANY interest in Aurilia.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

they might have stuck Jose Castillo at second base throughout the Dodgers series to showcase him for Minnesota

well, that went well.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed some of the replies to Schulman's piece:

If the Giants think they deserve a “bounty of quality” in return for two overpaid players who would be no better than 6-7 hitters on another team, then we know that no deals will be made today. This is the team that Sabean and Magowan built, and this is the albatross hung around the fans’ neck until the end of next season, after another year of watching good pitching get wasted by a less-than-major-league offense and questionable managing.
Posted By: Steve Soto | July 31 2008 at 10:45 AM

Is a trade really that important? No matter who they pick up, the incompetence and stupidity in the management and coaching ranks will remain, and they will remain the dumbest team in baseball. 23 shutout innings and not the slightest change in their approach. The whole organization is delusional.
Posted By: shakerandamover | July 31 2008 at 11:00 AM

Can they drug test Sabean ?
Posted By: dean1234 | July 31 2008 at 11:01 AM

Delusional. Absolutely delusional. So these 3 and 4 hitters will remain on the roster for…what purpose? So the Giants finish with 90 losses instead of 100? What difference does it make when this team is going nowhere this year or next? Why stall the rebuilding process any longer.

Sabean is the absolute worst GM I have seen in all of bay area sports in the last 15 years….name a worse GM in bay area sports in the last 15 years?

Absolutely disgusting.
Posted By: glettian | July 31 2008 at 11:02 AM

by Jakespaar on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terry Donahue

there, i did it. worst GM ever.

by cornball on Jul 31, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

No we do-ont

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

For an okay price!

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

o_O

I didn’t enter that again

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lumpia Lincecum

Did you know Lincecum’s mother is Filipina?

A television station from the Philippines arranged interviews with reliever Geno Espineli, who is believed to be the first full-blooded Filipino in the major leagues, and Tim Lincecum, whose mother is Filipina.

by wilriv21 on Jul 31, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we went over that in one of the Lincecum Fanposts.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool

Now I now what to get for his next birthday present.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doood, isnt that Roofio from Hook?!

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rufio was the best part of Hook.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is so true Natto, and thanks for helping me with the spelling!

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

i beg to differ

I think Dustin Hoffman made that movie

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

RU FI O RU FI O

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beltre at ATT Park:

.296/.345/.447/.791

by ejdacanay on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

White Sox on the verge of aqurining LHP John Lannan from the Washington Nationals

Lannan has had a decent year. Nothing crazy, but he’s under control through 2013 I think.

3.33 ERA, 4.39 FIP, 55.9 GB%, 13.12 K%, 7.9 BB%

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Sabean is a tool

you’ve got such free reign to take this club in various directions and you leave us in neutral

www.wazzel.com (prove your sports knowledge if you can)

by NeifiChicken on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

don’t forget the August 31st deadline and passing thru waivers stuff

by wilriv21 on Jul 31, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

what about the players we'd be getting back?

what are the rules on that? Don’t the players we get back have to clear waivers too? What exactly are the rules?

www.wazzel.com (prove your sports knowledge if you can)

by NeifiChicken on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they’re not on the 40-man roster (like Denker last year) then they don’t have to pass through waivers. If they are on the 40-man, then they can be included as PTBNLs (there are some rules on this that I don’t understand).

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.

by groug on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

the crap we get in return probably would clear, too.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. What’s most frustrating is the apparent lack of any plan or vision.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

Brett Favre’s leg itched, so he scratched it!

More on this from ESPN as it develops.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.

by groug on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, thank god Favre has his own section on the espn bottom line ticker.

I would be lost without it.

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.

by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but can he play 3B?

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala

by jhiat00 on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heard he has a decent arm for 3B

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

And he would certainly bring a lot of veteran savvy.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.

by groug on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok he's got an arm

But can he GIDP?

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala

by jhiat00 on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alternately, we could go with an outfield of Favre, Deion Sanders, and Michael Jordan.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a lot of championships won between the 3 of them. Need that veteran grit.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a rumor, just an idea.

I’d like to see the Giants trade Vizquel to Cleveland for the last 2 months of the season. I’d settle for half of what we owe him for this season.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm sure the rest of AL Central agress with you

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala

by jhiat00 on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Omar farewell tour

they could DH for him instead of the pitcher

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing that prevents this from being a serious response is the Sabathia trade.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

But then it’ll be harder to sign him to an extension!

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

nah, lets trade Vizquel and Amy G to Dancing with the Stars for Tom Bergeron.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’ve already got too many minor league catchers.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s like saying we have too many Christmas presents

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t that Tom Berenger?

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with jcb9 on the whole lack of editing features.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

^_^

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was confused at first as well until I remembered ole Jake Taylor. I figured since we probably aren’t going to upgrade our team our minor league system, we might as well upgrade our sideline reporting.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d settle for nothing, we eat all his contract, we get nothing in return, just do anything to stop Bochy from being able to play him!

Proud owner of the most boring Username! Alex Hinshaw: Now showing in a bullpen near you!

by GiantFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only one more hour til the deadline

I can hardly take the suspense…ZzZzZzzzz

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 31, 2008 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Do you believe in miracles?

1:09 update

The San Francisco Chronicle suggests that Jose Castillo is the player the Twins are interested in.

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.

by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

yes please

could be the greatest news ever

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love how that news came at the perfect time… a sign? I believe so

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

lololol

synchronicity

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

GTFO

Bill Smith would be run out of town on a rail. He’d make Littlefield look like Bill James.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Castillo, Aurilia, Vizquel——take them all if you want to give us Bonser back.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

i actually thought castillo looked good at 2nd

not that i want him on my team, but he’s better at 2nd than at short or 3rd

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you see his throw that rolled to first base in the one game?

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

"to first base"?

more like “in the general direction of the first-base side of the field of play”

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would make Sabien and Boulder Head come out smelling like something other than (noun).

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before we get too excited

He links to the Schulman post I linked to a while back – the same one where Schulman says there probably won’t be any deals.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roller coaster of emotions.

I was really happy for a second that Castillo might be gone.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

argh

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was still worth it for that 10 seconds of euphoria.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, didn’t mean to anyone’s hopes up…

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.

by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

hell just the idea of trading castle gets me excited. even if it is unlikely.

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

it like J14 said.

hell just the idea of trading castle gets me excited. even if it is unlikely.

Freaken Tease!! What next you gonna look like a young Betty Page dressed up in latex french maid out fit an prance arround McChron?

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Jul 31, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Molina

His line for the last two months:
June – .275/ .287/ .297
July – .183 /.221/ .317

He’s also borderline obese, and at an age where even healthy catchers usually decline. And he’s owed about $7M next year.

I think Sabean might be overvaluing him just a little.

by mxmob33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Catchers usually go poof in their early 30’s, Molina will be 34 next year, I’m actually surprised he hasn’t gone on the DL yet.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly, this why I don’t understand why Sabean isn’t just giving these guys away for salary relief (Winn, Aurilia).

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.

by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT HE’S OUR CLEAN UP HITTER!!!!!

That said, I still want no part of Mike Jacobs.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not even the good part

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jacobs might be headed to San Francisco in exchange for Bengie Molina, the Marlins’ official site reports.
Spin: It’s no secret that the Marlins are seeking an upgrade at catcher, and Molina is an obvious target now that Pudge Rodriguez has already been dealt. The Marlins pulled Jacobs after six innings on Wednesday.

by ejdacanay on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

old

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats from last night

I’m pretty sure the pull was a defensive sub. they moved cantu to first and brought in someone else at third.

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s awesome that Cantu, a terrible defender, is the defensive sub for Jacobs.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Richie

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Sabes planning on taking Bowker to a farm up North?

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This just in from ESPN Trade Deadline Blog
Jon (Tulsa, OK): You assume that a team will sign Ibanez early and give up those picks, though.

SportsNation Jonah Keri: (3:04 PM ET ) As long as Brian Sabean has a job, it’s a lock.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

ZING

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hooray for being a punchline.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

hilarious

:|

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

SICK BURN

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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

swift boat’d

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rotoworld is reporting Jason Bay to the Rays for Reid Brignac and Jeff Niemann

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I like what the Pirates are doing. Huntington seems to know his stuff.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Starting shortstop for the 2009 Giants: Jack Wilson.

Booooooook it.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

And there goes my Zobrist fetish, dammit.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Orlando Cabrera or Edgar Renteria? They fit the bill of being roughly as productive as Wilson, but will cost a lot more.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would pay good money for 2004 and 2007 Jack Wilson. I wouldn’t pay much for any of the other seasons, though, and you’d have to think those two years are outliers.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d pay good money for 2006 Omar Vizquel.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just meant those other two are probably more Sabean’s style. Same production/sexier name/higher pricetag.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here. I can’t wait until the Giants hit rock bottom and hire someone like that.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’ll hire Littlefield for the completed circle of pain.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

*kills self*

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would have to qualify as a terrorist act. At least a threat.

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by daveinexile on Jul 31, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is Tropicana Field as a hitters’ park? I have a surplus of outfielders, including Bay, on my fantasy team, so.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

I think Hermida + would have been better, but it sounds like the Marlins were the ones who screwed that deal up.

By the way, Bay’s middle name is Raymond, so he is a perfect fit for Tampa.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tampa's Bay?

Jay Ray Bay is a Tampa Bay Ray?

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, remember when Sabean did things like trade Ryan Vogelsong and Armando Rios for Jason Schmidt, and Darryl Hamilton for Ellis Burks? I miss those days.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Ibanez to Toronto.

BEST TRADE DEADLINE EVER (for teams not named the Giants)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

i thought you meant me for a second :(

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, do you know if Adam Dunn likes playing baseball or not?

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously. Usually the Trade Deadline AND the All-Star game leave us with blue-balls, and both have been really exciting.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

they do not believe Jesus is the savior

by wilriv21 on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus did not walk off the island, while Jesus walked on water

by wilriv21 on Jul 31, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

OPTIMISM!

So, who wants to place odds that we’ll have the same lineup tomorrow as we did yesterday?

Also: over/under on going another 25 innings without a run.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m predicting a lot of Roberts, Aurilia, Castillo, and Vizquel.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Showcase!

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry, our rebuild is almost done!

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if any old veterans are here at the end of the year, we are going to burn them up WickerMan style in hopes for a good crop.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

THE BEEEES!

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.

by groug on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

OG WIckerman: best movie ever

New skool WM: worst movie ever

it’s like bookends

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need to see the original, the new one was terrible, but watchable because of the tremendous Nick Cage performance.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

by tremendous

you mean godawful, i assume?

original has nekkid Britt Ekland

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Until you’ve seen Nick Cage punch an assortment of women while wearing a bear suit and screaming NOT THE BEES, I don’t think you can properly judge the greatest of that movie.

I’ll google Britt when I get home.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, i've seen it

the bear costume sucker punch is a personal favorite

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is, the bee girl from the Blind Melon video is standing behind him.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Until you’ve seen Nick Cage punch an assortment of women while wearing a bear suit and screaming NOT THE BEES, I don’t think you can properly judge the greatness of that movie.

I’ll google Britt when I get home.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don’t allow you to have bees in here.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

BEES?!

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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gob's not on board.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s one of my most favorite AD dialog exchanges ever.

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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

bee day

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

But we won’t actually trade them, we need them for next year!

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have to evaluate them for Opening Day 2009! Contenders!

by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers offered Ethier for Manny?

Here’s hoping Agent Ned panics and unloads the entire farm system

from Heyman on si.com

by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Ethier, Kemp and LaRoche for Manny please

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the Dodgers still need a shortstop. Throw in Lugo for an additional James Loney and Jonathan Broxton.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Sox should throw in Craig Hansen to sweeten the deal

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would cost an additional Chad Billingsley

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If this happens, I’m sending a a sixpack of PBR to Theo & Agent Ned

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make it a case of Fat Tire.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m on a budget for gifts.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Here’ a brain teaser: how badly would the Giants have to do for Sabean to actually get fired?

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

IT’S NOT HIS FAULT, HE NEEDS MORE THAN ONE YEAR WITHOUT BARRY BEFORE YOU CAN REALLY JUDGE HIM

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it takes YEARS to recover from having a such a distraction!

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And my other favorite is: PETER MAGOWAN MADE SABEAN SIGN ZITO

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU CAN’T JUDGE HIM UNTIL THE ZITO CONTRACT IS UP.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Sabean is a puppet defense

if he’s a puppet, then we can still get someone else.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depressing

Sabean seems completely shot-shy when it comes to trades at the moment. Now that’s probably not a bad thing if it saves him from making bad trades, but it strikes me as odd that he’s not at all pro-active in whichever direction he’s trying to go in!

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by GiantFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

we need to get this bus out of the ditch

before we can decide on a direction to go in…

by Jakespaar on Jul 31, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabes' new nickname

Catch-22

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

why slander the best book ever written

by associating it with a retarded douchebag.

btw, what kind of a name is sabean?

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s Sabean’s name, sir.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alternative, Occam’s razor theory: our players suck and nobody wants them.

by Evan on Jul 31, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only wish no one wanted them. That would inculde Sabean & Co.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Omar mentioned on ESPN as a prime waiver trade candidate

sorry Manny no playing time for you

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I bet Bochy phoned in that tip.

by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok guys, I’m here. The trade deadline thread can start now.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

oh pheew i though it would nver start

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Sabean knows today is the deadline.

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.

by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is not the deadline – August 31st is really the deadline – yeah, yeah I know there is waivers

by wilriv21 on Jul 31, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he slept him dreaming of veteran savvyness.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, right!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Ibanez deal apparently fell through.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

collective sigh

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was about to say, who would trade for Ibanez? Especially the Jays who aren’t in contention. Weird trade scenario.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

SABEAN, TRADE OUR SHIT! WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE GOOD NEXT YEAR YOU MFER!!!

/endfrustratedrant

by i wish we were good on Jul 31, 2008 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Teams just don’t give away their 3rd and 4th place hitters, don’t you understand????

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.

by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

8 minutes and counting

didnt we find out about Morris last year like a few hours past the deadline? this gives me hope for the rest of the afternoon, so don’t take it away from me.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

We aren’t going to trade [insert washed up overpaid veteran].

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

your tagline...

where is it from? sounds familiar

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Handey

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Handy, innit?

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Key-rect!

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although I believe Sofa King has the correct spelling.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, Dave Littlefield has retired.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was like the revised ending of “Habeas Corpus” in The Player.

“Damn you, Sabean for not getting anything for Matt Morris!!! Wait, I’m getting a telegraph…it reads…’Morris traded….stop…!!!”

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

now Rosenthal is saying the Manny three-way is back on and the Bay to Rays deal is off?

I wanted Bay on the Rays :(

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I would like to punch Rosenthal in the face

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

obligatory STFU

to Rosencrantz

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would have been too confusing for me.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, me too. I’m really rooting hard for the Rays this year. Mostly because ESPN annoys the shit out of me with the CAN YOU BELIEVE THE RAYS ARE IN FIRST PLACE AND NOT THE SOX OR YANKS!? Bay would be a great pickup for them.

If anyone had watching any baseball over the last three years, you could see the Rays were building towards a pretty good team.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny 3-way is on?

[insert sex joke, possibly involving a Bocock]

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Sox fans

Starting to call this the Curse of the Manbino…

Ha! Another 86 years of purgatory for RSN

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

WE ARE TOO GOOD. I BOW DOWN TO YOU LORD SABEAN.

by i wish we were good on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Trade Deadline Over

And. Here. We. Go.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

i really want to see it again

don’t feel like I grasped everything I could the first time. A really excellent film, IMHO

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, it’s much better the second time around, when you don’t pee your way through the last 5 minutes.

Believe me.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a ton going on that I’m sure I missed some things.

SPOILERS

Also, I wanted to know if anyone else picked up on Batman’s taking the fall for Dent’s murders as a way to punish himself further. He hasn’t forgiven himself for his parents’ murder, and the line “nobody else dies because of me” really told me that he hasn’t let it go.

End SPOILERS

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a ton going on that I’m sure I missed some things.

SPOILERS

Also, I wanted to know if anyone else picked up on Batman’s taking the fall for Dent’s murders as a way to punish himself further. He hasn’t forgiven himself for his parents’ murder, and the line “nobody else dies because of me” really told me that he hasn’t let it go.

End SPOILERS

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, just in case somebody managed to avoid the spoilers the first time.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goddamn it I have no idea why it posted so many damn times. Plus I put in stars to seperate the spoilers and everything. >:|

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why so serious?

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s all part of the plan.

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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, look, it’s the deadline and no Giants trades have been announced.

What a shock. What a tremendous shock.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL rotoworld is saying that Griffey is going to play CF for the White Sox.

LOLOL.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Swisher sucked that bad?

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s more about Konerko but still…

Griffey should not be playing a corner outfield spot anymore, let alone CF.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, he's been surprisingly decent.

both by the metrics, and also according to WS fans.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Aug 1, 2008 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Both as a fan of the game of baseball, and a fantasy owner of Nick Swisher, I am enraged.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember, some trades do get announced an hour or so after the deadline.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

What we needed this deadline was a Lincecum to Toronto type rumour, which would have made things a bit less boring & left us all feeling relieved when we made no moves!

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by GiantFan on Jul 31, 2008 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

PR 101

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe if Blalock weren’t on the DL…

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

remember

there’s still time for this announcement!

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t hear the Henry Sosa for Mark Grudzielanek rumors?

by Evan on Jul 31, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

sabeans email address, NOW!

by i wish we were good on Jul 31, 2008 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

brian.sabean@dummysguidetobuildingfarmsystem.com

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Ibanez deal fell through?

I was thinking Ibanez for Fonzi & Quan?

Like a lesbian couple that's just a little too angry, I'm still waiting for my chance at adoption.

by dangjackson on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder what the Twins did offer for Aurilia that made us go “no thanks”!

I wonder what the Twins could offer for Aurilia that’d make us go “no thanks”!

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by GiantFan on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I fucking hate that guy. I’d give $20M to never have to hear about him again. Hell, I’d probably give a testicle.

"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.

by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats actually an interesting debate

never hearing about favre again, or having children? i can’t say I have an answer

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

he only mentioned one testicle. im assuming he has plenty of juice left in the other one.

by cornball on Jul 31, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, he didn’t say it would be his testicle.

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by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh good, this thread needed actual Brett Favre news.

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by groug on Jul 31, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Baggarly's Blog
The 1 p.m. Deadline has come and gone. I’m told the Giants will have nothing to announce today. There’s a conference call with Brian Sabean in a half-hour; perhaps we can get some insight into whether they were close to anything, and what lies ahead.

I’m sure we’ll hear Sabean say he has all of August to showcase the vets…

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by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

what lies ahead:

showcasing washup veterans for the non-waiver trade deadline…

by Merope on Jul 31, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

sigh

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lineup tomorrow

LF Roberts
2B Castillo
RF Winn
C Molina
CF Rowand
1B Bowker
3B Aurilia
SS Vizquel

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Heyman claiming Manny to Dodgers!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/31/manny.sweepstakes/index.html?eref=sircrc

please let Ned have given up Kemp…

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Grant would explode

Into a million chocolate candies for us all!

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, Manny is… pretty good.

by cheno on Jul 31, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marriage made in heaven

The field-pisser now will be in the latrine.

(crosses fingers, crosses what toes will cross, attempts to cross balls)

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by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh

for a year or two I’d be happy to deal with that instead of the careers of Kemp and Co.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

or two months. i would gladly deal with manny for two months if it meant no more kemp.

by cornball on Jul 31, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

doesn’t mean no Kemp though :(

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s also 36 and not likely to remain a Dodger for more than a year or two (during which time we aren’t going to be any good anyway.)

Also taking defense into account, he’s not as good as you would think, looking at his offensive numbers.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also wipes his ass with hand towels.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's ok

i wipe my hands with ass towels

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by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!!!! PLEASE BE KEMP!!!!!!!!!!

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by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nomar back in Beantown

that would be rofltastic

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by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boston Globe is reporting that Manny has been traded, but does not say where or for who.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Bay could still end up on the Sox through the Dodgers. Kemp to Pittsburgh?

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, sounds like a 3-way.

Crazy trading deadline.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

More non-trade, I don't care News: A-Rod's Marriage is over

and according to A-Rod, his being a cheating scumbag HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT...

And if you believe that, this is for sale on E-bay…

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

unless this MAnny thing is for real there was a lot of talk for nothing this year, and the to big trades that went down came out of no where.

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by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Sabean you are worthless

You couldn’t even get rid of Matt Cain. For shame!

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

But who would want him?

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who would want a #3 starter anyway?

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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAY WHY R U CALLIN MATT CIAN A THRID STATRTER HES’ 2 GOOD 4 THAT

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by groug on Jul 31, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU GUYS ARE EEDIOTS! MATT CAIN IS WAY BETTER THAN A 3RD STARTER. LOOK AT HIS VORP!

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Four minor leaguers is what I read. It seems like there has to be more.

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by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

from si (same link as above)
The Red Sox traded embattled slugger Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers late Thursday afternoon, SI.com has learned.

Jason Bay is headed to Boston as part of the deal, SI.com has learned. The Pirates will get four minor leaguers in the three-way trade.

The Red Sox went back-and-forth with the Marlins and Dodgers as the 4 p.m. ET deadline approached. Ramirez said earlier today, as first reported by SI.com, that he would accept a trade to any team.

The announcement will be made in conjunction with a World Baseball Classic announcement at Dodger Stadium shortly.

Just 4 minor leaguers? WTF?

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by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers fans are shitting their pants

This is great. Will Carroll confirmed Manny to Dodgers as well.

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by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

from truebluela

Oh Crap

Will Carroll (1:22:15 PM PT): Manny to Dodgers?

Will Carroll (1:22:51 PM PT): Yep, I have two sources on this one, plus Jon Heyman. NO idea on particulars.

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by Andrew on Jul 31, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs

DAMN IT!

Rot in hell, Colletti!

by Tango and Cash on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs

I’m just assuming we’re going to get hosed on this deal, so excuse me for my early tirade.

by Tango and Cash on Jul 31, 2008 1:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply

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by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Details;

Manny Ramirez for Brett Farve…thats all I know right now.

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by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

All two of the folks on True Blue LA are going nuts.

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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT! Haha, this dodger trade just made this deadline look soooo much better. roflowned. if only we could get a couple of maple bats for aurilia.

by i wish we were good on Jul 31, 2008 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Robo sez: “The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Damien Moss and reliever Craig Hansen from the Red Sox.”

I assume they mean Brandon Moss for the outfielder.

In which case… meh.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Damien Moss

Sigh. Another of our mistakes.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

andy laroche not a dodger is nice

kemp would have been better, but it’s nice.

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by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be happier right now if they’d given up Kemp or Ethier. :\

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m disappointed they didn’t give up Ethier or Kemp.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I definitely think the Dodgers and Sox are both winners here.

by cheno on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sox gave up Manny, Hansen and Moss for Jason Bay. Yes, they save some $, but I’d say they got ripped off.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently the Sox are paying all of Manny’s salary, so not so much.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man they really wanted to get rid of him. Sad.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn’t know that. They have Bay signed for 2009, so it’s better than not picking up Manny’s option and then getting nothing for him.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not reeeeal familiar w/ the Dodgers system

What do you guys think about LaRoche and Morris?

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still think LaRoche is pretty good. Don’t know anything about Morris.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

2006 first rounder, seems like he has pretty good stats for a 21 year old in AA

by kingofthacove on Jul 31, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

LaRoche

Considered one of the best 3B prospects in the minors, behind only Longoria and Brandon Wood. Just hasn’t done it in short times he has been in majors, up and down. BA analysts ranked him highly this year overall: Callis #24; Lingo #13; Manuel #41; Kline #48, out of Top 50 prospects. #2 in Dodger’s system overall, behind Kershaw.

Morris was #12, ceiling as a #3 starter, no biggee, probably back of rotation stater.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 31, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The LaRoches are back together!

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by groug on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting about LaRoche, I wonder what that means for Pedro Alvarez?

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt it makes much difference, it’s not too hard to move players from third to second or first or a corner outfield spot.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wonder which one will get moved? I have no idea who’s the better defender of the two.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weren’t there reports Alvarez might not stay at third? He’s still at least a year or two from the majors anyway.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just saw this in the BP chat:

Kevin Goldstein (1:46:31 PM PT): It’s funny Will, neither LaRoche or Alavarez are especially good defenders at third base. Both are kinda mediocre, but not total disaster types.

On the question of if this made Alvarez a 1B now. They can figure that out along the way, LaRoche should start right now in Pittsburgh. He’ll finally be unblocked by stupidity.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hasn’t even signed yet, has he?

by Evan on Jul 31, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not yet, but he’ll get signed. Last I heard, Alvarez and the Bucs were a little apart in their discussions but no way does Huntington let his first draft turn bad by not signing him.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

kinda feel like the bucs are getting hosed a little. obviously, it’s a good package, but just so they can get used as the sox unload Manny? laroche certainly has time to figure it out, but hansen has NO control, especially of his breaking/off-speed stuff. i just don’t quite get how they didn’t get a major league outfielder (kemp, ethier) in this deal. right now their starting outfield is McLouth, McCutchen, ?.

by cornball on Jul 31, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you’re the Pirates, who cares how your talent is aligned? Just get good players.

by Evan on Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Besides, you forgot about Brandon Moss, Cornball, he, like LaRoche, was blocked on the MLB roster, so the Pirates are probably putting Moss and LaRoche into the starting lineup immediately, Morris is too far away, plus just recovering from TJS, to give a guesstimate, and Hansen could just go in the bullpen and see what happens, couldn’t be any worse than what they got now.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 31, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

An OF

of McLouth, McCutchen, Moss / Steven Pearce, is acceptable now, and could be very good in the future.

Ethier isn’t anything special. His career OPS+ is 106 in a corner. His D is OK, nothing special. He is young enough that he can improve, 26, but not so young that you would project stardom. If the price of acquiring Ethier is not getting LaRoche, then they’re probably better off not getting Ethier.

Moss is pretty much a league average corner OF this season, age 24, yes in a small sample. He’s not anything special, but growing up to be a league average OF in his prime is not unreasonable.

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by rfloh on Aug 1, 2008 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

any chance...

that Sabean finally gets it?
“Gee, nobody called, nobody wanted our players, maybe those old guys really aren’t any good… time to play the kids!”

by Merope on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

no

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by groug on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

about as much chance

as Zito giving back some of his contract b/c he’s realized he’s pitched so crappy

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

More likely: “Gee, these old guys really aren’t any good … time to get get a different bunch of old guys.”

by Evan on Jul 31, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fridays Line-up

LF Dave Roberts
2B Jose Castillo
RF Randy Winn
C Benji Molina
CF Aaron Rowand
1B Rich Aurilia
3B Pedro Feliz’s Glove
SS Omar Vizquel

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

sigh

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, the Manny deal appears official now, with the same names that were reported earlier.

by cheno on Jul 31, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Sabes will say

“At the end of the day, we kicked the tires on some proposals and fielded a lot of calls, but after doing our due diligence, where the rubber meets the road, we just didn’t feel we could pull the trigger on any one particular proposal.”

by out machine on Jul 31, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He pointed out that "the deadline at least for today is artificial. Now we’ll see who gets through waivers and who comes to their senses. The day has come and gone, but it’s not an impediment in my mind to what we need to do."

In other words…get yerselves ready for some more showcasing!

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting, I expected to hear him say that he decided to go fishing with Bochy at the last minute.

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by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

F*. When does Sharks or 49ers preseason start?

by Cleophus on Aug 1, 2008 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel sorry for you

if you’re looking forward to the 49ers season. We are in for a long year, friend.

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by UnleashTheGore on Aug 1, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

When ManRam plays,

...Does Andruw Jones sit? That’s some awfully expensive pine-meat, Meat.

I left my swagger in my other pants.

by HughG16 on Jul 31, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah, but Kemp can play center

by kingofthacove on Jul 31, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

torre said that andruw is no longer the everyday CF at the beginning of the week. bet that kemp is the guy in center now.

by cornball on Jul 31, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jones and Pierre should sit, but the odd man out surely will be Ethier, which is too bad for him, but makes me laugh at the stupid Dodgers.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jones has been a bench player lately anyway.

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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rotoworld says that Manny was traded with the stipulation that the Dodgers don’t pick up his future options.

In which case, if this turns out to be Morris and LaRoche for 2 months of Manny… I like this less for the Dodgers.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I think they’re also banking on getting the draft picks as well.

by cheno on Jul 31, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

But can they get the picks if they decline his option?

by Evan on Jul 31, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny is supposed to decline arb so they can get the picks

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by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

But they can’t offer arbitration, they can only pick up his option.

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by tedfordfan on Jul 31, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which means we like it more!

Even with draft picks, that’s still not the equivalent of a LaRoche, he’s a top 3B prospect, teams rarely get one like that with a late 1st/early 2nd pick or supplemental 1st pick, and besides which should be 4-6 years away from contributing, unlike LaRoche. They must like either DeWitt or Blake for 3B now, or maybe Ned thinks he’s a goner unless they win this season and so he is pushing his chips all in.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

But they can’t offer arbitration, they can only pick up his option.

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by tedfordfan on Jul 31, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

You sure about that? That was supposed to be a part of the deal to the Marlins, Im pretty sure they can offer arb once they decine the option.

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by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't think so

It’s either/or.

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by tedfordfan on Jul 31, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

dodgers outfield

manny in left, kemp in center, ethier in right? that’s $40 million for a pinch runner (pierre) and a defensive replacement (jones)

by mikejlaz on Jul 31, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

they should do that, but they’ll probably end up with Manny in left, Jones in center, Kemp in right.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the flipside, that’s a heck of an outfield.

by cheno on Jul 31, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a valid point. Unlike the Angels who spent all of that money and still don’t really have that great of an OF.

by rotorueter on Jul 31, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wouldn’t mind being the Angels, either.

by cheno on Jul 31, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not quite

I think that is more like $27-8M per year for Pierre and Jones.

Cornball above noted that Jones has been sat down, he’s not the starting CF anymore, so probably Kemp is in CF.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 31, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pierre gets $8M this year and Jones gets $9M.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jones signed a 2-year, $36M contract.

I’m fairly sure he won’t be paid $27M next year.

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by groug on Jul 31, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which they paid him this year, right?

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by groug on Jul 31, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

or in December when he signed the deal. plus $9M this year and $15 next year.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see what the big deal is about the Dodgers getting Manny. I mean it’s not like he’s gonna cut into Pierre’s playing time.

Wasted trade.

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by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, what’s the over/under for # of days it takes Jeff Kent to punch Manny for “being Manny”?

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by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

oh man, that could be fun.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

over/under

on manny suddenly realizing joe torre, manager of dodgers, is the same joe torre who used to manage the yankees and vetoing trade?

by mikejlaz on Jul 31, 2008 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

didn’t he used to say he wanted to play for the Yankees?

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

manny seeing torre

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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers should just go the whole 9 yards and sign Bonds.

I dunno if the clubhouse at Chavez Ravine could hold that much veteran savvy.

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by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

What’s Jones’ conract look like?
Would they DFA him?

by Merope on Jul 31, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

2 year deal. Manny will be gone after this year.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jones deal

what a retard Colletti is. LA paid Jones a $12.2M signing bonus + 2 years at $9M (2008) & $15 (2009). And cuz that wasn’t enough, Ned threw in a no trade clause. LOL!

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

Maybe Jones just doesn’t like LA.
I know my work would suffer if I moved there.

by Merope on Jul 31, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

why are you a gigolo?

by wilriv21 on Jul 31, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

no,

probably just a commuter

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

never thought i'd say this but...........

go D’ BAcks I don’t wanna c the dodgers in the playoffs anytime soon

by caincecum on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t wanna c the dodgers in the playoffs anytime soon

Doesn’t that sort of go without saying for a Giants fan?

by Jakespaar on Jul 31, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

go Rockies

another amazing comeback in the making…

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Natto had opened this thread, we would have traded Winn for Brignac.

by Evan on Jul 31, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

How can this whole situation work out to maximize the misery of the Dodgers?

Manny hits about .115 w/ no hr’s
Jones exercises no trade clause & remains a lousy Dodger for years.
Colletti, attempting to make up for lousy trades / signings, trades Kemp, Ethier & young pitching for Brett Favre, who promptly retires.

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't care if he hits or not...

I just want him to do something incredibly stupid and embarrassing… repeatedly, over the next two months.

Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...

by tedfordfan on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth

My Dodger-fan friend’s immediate reaction to the Manny trade (this was before it was announced who LA was giving up):

We’ll see who else Colletti gave up-they aren’t saying yet-but I imagine he just signed his walking papers. He already gave up ten probable years of good major league play for a half season of Casey Blake in a terribly foolish trade. If he raked the farm system even further for a half season of Manny and we don’t win the WS (which we won’t), he’s done.

No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.

by Kitspool on Jul 31, 2008 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

It still seems to me that the Giants’ trash, weirdly enough, is exactly what the Dodgers needed. Randy Winn is no Manny Ramirez, but defense brings them a lot closer together than people think. Neither Vizquel nor Chin-lung Hu can hit, but they give you great D and you could pinch-hit for them liberally. Platoon LaRoche and DeWitt at third, and you’ve got a team that’s nearly as good as what they have now, plus you still have all those prospects.

by Evan on Jul 31, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers now have Manny, Nomar and Derek Lowe…obviously trying to recapture that Bosox magic circa-2004.

They need Dave Roberts to complete the set!!!

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit

Don't you it's gonna be all right. But not right now.

by Revolution1 on Jul 31, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

that would just make my day. especially when they don’t make the playoffs.

by cornball on Jul 31, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Some radio host on ESPNews is incredulous that the Manny trade could ever possibly be bad.

I guess he didn’t REALLY want people to call in with opinions.

Don't you it's gonna be all right. But not right now.

by Revolution1 on Jul 31, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

Manny Ramirez traded to the Dodgers.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!

by WalrusMan on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

source???

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 31, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t be Peter Gammons. That worthy is no doubt flopping around on the floor like a freshly-caught trout after hearing this news!

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

try the freakin’ Dodgers’ website.

Hum-baby!

by Danger on Jul 31, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't find it

I tried freakindodgers.com and freakin-dodgers.com. What am I missing?

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 31, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s .org, duh.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

freakindodgers.net. It’s dot ooooorg!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I TOLD YOU SO!

I said Ramirez was coming west. I said so. Three days ago. Why the hell is Ned not sitting in Sabian’s chair? Why?

Hum-baby!

by Danger on Jul 31, 2008 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

If I see Sabean on the street I might just kill him

So NO trades today. not one single move. the giants suck and sabean is unquestionably the worst GM in baseball. no doubt. but if the giants continue starting castillo, vizquel, and aurilia, I’ll probably convert to a Red Sox fan or something. I’m sorry, the Giants situation is beyond pathetic at this point.

by FreshPrince712 on Jul 31, 2008 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Enjoy the Monster.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Jul 31, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quitter!

yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!

by satyricrash on Jul 31, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’ll show ‘em!

by ryanmiles on Jul 31, 2008 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

dont get me wrong tho...

aight that killing + converting to a Red Sox fan was an exaggeration, but I’m so fed up w/ the Giants. When Randy Winn and Bengie Molina are your 3/4 “punch”, you have no chance. sorry. but it sucks cuz I love the giants to an unhealthy amount. so i’m a lil screwed

by FreshPrince712 on Jul 31, 2008 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

how sabean spent his deadline:

sabean: so we have this great prospect i have a feeling you all might be interested in, his name is jose cast…
every gm in the league via conference call: BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by ryanmiles on Aug 1, 2008 12:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Me and Sabes have the same phone.

Cool.

by xanthan on Aug 1, 2008 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you want to share any trait at all with that man?

Hum-baby!

by Danger on Aug 1, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

You laugh, but the Twins were reportedly scouting Castillo.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Aug 1, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

heard it could have been Taschner

by wilriv21 on Aug 1, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trades?! We don't need no stinking trades!

Well, boys, this is it. Hang on and enjoy the decent into hell.

Hum-baby!

by Danger on Aug 1, 2008 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

We’re not there already?

by Jakespaar on Aug 1, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was the waiting room.

Hum-baby!

by Danger on Aug 1, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

this descent began 3 or 4 yrs ago with no apparent stop

by wilriv21 on Aug 1, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, at least it’ll be decent. I’ve heard horror stories about hell from other people.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 1, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’ve heard horror stories that hell IS other people!

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 1, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

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