Open Trade Deadline Thread, 7/31
For an opinionated jerkbag like myself, this might be the most exciting Giants trade deadline ever. The Giants aren't going to make any huge trades -- maybe Rich Aurilia here, or Jack Taschner there -- but they aren't going to get any future stars.
No, it's exciting because now we get to see if the Giants really are going to sit the veterans who aren't traded. If the veterans sit, we get to watch youngsters find their way. If the veterans play, I have the right to be the loudest bloviating jerkbag on the internet. It should be fun. Righteous indignation...spittle-flecked keyboards...saber rattling.... I'm in. Because if Omar Vizquel starts more than one game in any of the remaining series, I'm a mailing a severed ear to someone. It might be mine, and it might not be. And, really, a third of the remaining games would still be too many, so I think I'm being more than fair.
My prediction: Richie for an A-baller, and everyone else stays.
My other prediction: We actually will see more of the rookies.
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Ummm
there’s already one of these. Should I introduce you to the Recommended Diaries section, Grant?
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Oh snap. Thats right, he went there.
I am Cameron Wood and this is my son and business partner CW Culberson.
There’s already an Open Trade Deadline Thread, 7/31? I don’t put dates on the end of my titles for gits and shiggles.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Can’t we all just get along?
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
My prediction: Castillo, Vizquel, et al keep playing every day after the deadline because “we need to showcase them for the waiver-deadline.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
There's always some kind of deadline
to showcase veterans!
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I say they keep playing because “we’re trying to put our best team on the field,” or some such comparably clueless Bochy quote.
The All-Father is now a Giant!
Yep.
And they will end up saying they need to do this all the way up to the season, because they have to “play the game the right way” so as not to impact playoff races. This shit was old in 2005, its inexcusable now.
by out machine on Jul 31, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Look every game I’ve been to the attendance was over 32,000. Why change anything if the tickets are sold. And yes this is me at my most cynical, since nothing was done yesterday.
We just need to win!
I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..
I’ll take it one step further: they’ll say we need to play them to showcase them for the waiver deadline, but they’ll also say that they have no intention of trading any of them because we need them for next year.
The running of this franchise defies parody.
I think they think that they are raising the price other teams will pay, by employing this strategy. This, of course, assumes that the Giants management actually has brains that work the same way as the ones we use.
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SJ Giants
Sorry for busting in here, I’ve got an OT question that I’m wondering about. I’m going to the SJ Giants game this afternoon, is there any player there that I should keep an eye out for?
And to keep the ball rolling, I heard on the radio a few days ago someone called Cain, Lincecum and Molina “untouchable.” Lincecum yeah, I see that, but it seems like Cain could bring in quite a few prospects, enough to perhaps accelerate the development of the offense by one draft. And Molina as untouchable? That’s just crazy talk.
Well
With Cain being a third starter at best, he probably wouldn’t bring back much. They’d be lucky to get someone like….well, off the top of my head, Mike Jacobs.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
3rd starter at best?
On the Giants, or on any team? You must mean on the Giants. That’s just incorrect. This year, Cain has a 116 ERA+, 138/58 K/BB and a 1.274 WHIP. Sanchez has 93, 126/63, 1.447.. Also I read yesterday that Sanchez has had an 8.xx ERA over the last month, so maybe he was just playing over his head at the beginning of the year. Cain is the #2, no question.
also:
caveat sarchasm
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I'd make that face if I was a Lasorda lover, too.
Probably shoot myself and feed myself to Tommy as well
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Hah
That’s what I love about Giants fans, all class.
Yup
on a side note
beach balls = class
showing up in the third and leaving in the seventh = class
Jeff Kent = class
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I said about Dodgers fans at Dodgers Stadium.
I guess it’s okay to be called a Chink in that stadium.
BTW how’s Tommy’s son doing?
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
And thus concludes this episode of Tales from the Typical Sports Fan Forum.
Clinojim didn’t start the fire. It was always burning something something. We’re too snobby and elitist to get into a YouTube-style comment war.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Well he should’ve directed his bitching to me if he had a problem, not the rest of you guys.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Here’s the thing: There’s nothing better on a sports board than friendly ribbing. A Dodgers fan who can prove that he isn’t a dickbag is a very valuable thing…for us to poop on. Metaphorically, and in good humor, but still….
There used to be a Dodgers fan who hung around the Giants newsgroup, and everyone got along great with him. And that’s where the best trash talking came from. Most opposing fans snooping around don’t have good intentions, but the ones who do are fun.
Moral of my tale: Let those who are bags of dicks prove themselves to be bags of dicks before flaming them.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Now be gone with you, or I shall taunt you a 2nd time!!
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
My buddy convinced me to become a basketball fan when I moved to SLC. I followed the Jazz because he did. Then, I attempted to make him a baseball fan, and he is, but just to spite me, he became a Dodger fan. He’s just a son of a bitch like that.
In anyy event, he posted a blog today to try to piss me off. It says something about the Dogs shutting us out.
In the spirit of good natured ribbing, I thought it could be rather hilarious if I could get a bunch of people to comment on his blog talking shit. Now, I would ask that people be at least somewhat nice, as he is my buddy. But, it could be rather funny. And who doesn’t like giving shit to a Dodger fan?
If you’d like to, http://timglennofglendora.blogspot.com/2008/07/good-old-days.html
If not, cool.
Thanks.
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-My Father.
by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry Grant
Didn’t mean to stir things up. I’ll get out ofhere now and let the trade deadline work itself out. Thanks for the tips, I’ll watch for Downs and D’Alessio.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
So what the hell happened to Lasorda in this pic anyway? He looks like one hell of a break dancer to me!
I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!
If I remember correctly
He dropped his Dodger Dog and in his eagerness, attempted a flip to retrieve it. Right?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
He was coaching 3rd in an all-star games a few years ago and tried to back-peddle to get out of the way of a ball coming at him. His legs don’t move like they apparantly once used to and he went ass-over-tea-kettle. I just tried but couldn’t find it on youtube
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Dude
Matt Cain sucks
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
SJ Giants
There are quite a few really good players on the San Jose Team, too many really. Tons of speed in the outfield, as well as some of the infielders. Not to mention their pitchers – with Tim Alderson as an example. He is awesome. They are moving players around a bit, maybe to be seen for trades? I don’t know. D’Alessio has been starting at first base, and he has pretty much been their DH all year – don’t know what’s up with that one. But you will see a lot of talent. Hopefully they can complete the 4-game series with another win today.
by flyonthewall on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Jackson Williams
hehe
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Matt Downs is well regarded around here. I like Andy D’Alessio. And basically you can’t go wrong with any of the starting pitchers.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah look for Jose Castillo
he’s a pretty good AA baller. Oh wait he’s our effing starting 2nd basemen and he hits second!!!! He’s craptastic…AT BEST!!!!111oneone
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I think everyone will stay, with Aurilia being the only one who might possibly go, but i wouldn’t be surprised if he stays as well. I also think the veterans will keep on playing after the deadline because they still did last year & Bochy is an idiot!
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what in the wild wild world of sports is a-goin' on here?
i hired you fellas to get some trades done, not to sit around like a bunch of Kansas City ____. (fill in the blank)
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM PDT reply actions
Gotcha covered
i hired you fellas to get some trades done, not to sit around like a bunch of Kansas City Royal Fart Chiefs.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
'Scuse me mr taggert sur,
Can I have some more beans.
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by Andy from DC on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
mongo LIKE veteran savvy
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Everyone Stays
That’s my feeling. Sadly.
And Bochy’s too old-school to sit the vets. He wants to “respect the game”. I’d prefer he chose to respect me by not forcing me to watch Omar Vizquel hit.
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
Trouble is
Bochy considers someone like Castillo a vet that needs to be respected. That wouldn’t happen on any other team, but Sabean allows it because Sabean’s the kind of guy who paid Dave Roberts a whole ton of cash in a nonsensical contract.
Sabean likes to overpay mediocre and over-the-hill talent.
Bochy likes to overplay mediocre and over-the-hill talent.
Sadly for us, they’re a match made in heaven.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
I'm getting sick of Buster Olney
He can’t get over this Manny thing, and how “unworkable” the situation is, and how there’s a 1% chance he finishes the season with Boston. He went on to essentially tell Steve Phillips that he was completely off base. Um, who is the former GM? Who has previous experience dealing with players and making deals at the deadline? I’m not a Phillips apologist, and I don’t think he was great, but I think that his perspective is refreshing.
Between that, and Olney’s accusation that MLBtraderumors.com does retro-timestamps to seem like they broke the story first, this guy’s ego is WAY too big and needs to be brought back to reality.
Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris
You think Steve Phillips’s perspective is refreshing? Really?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
His theory on blown saves is, what I thought, refreshing.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s cool to have a former GM doing some reporting. Beats all the other talking heads they put out there.
Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris
I have to concede that I don’t know his views on the subject.
Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris
crap, that was supposed to be a reply to SoFa King Mike, sorry.
Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/7/22/576621/steve-phillips-baseball-ge
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Steve Phillips
The fact that trading Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano earns you a spot on Baseball Tonight instead of a spot on baseball’s blacklist under Jose Canseco speaks volumes about ESPN.
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
he was gone when that trade was made. I believe Duquette was the genius responsible for that one.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
You guys are right!
I need a new reason to hate Phillips now.
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
here's one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Phillips#Harassment_allegations
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice
I shoulda know that all I really needed to do was wiki Steve Phillips and I’d discover something shitty about his life.
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
Fucking creep.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
also...
Didn’t Harold Reynolds get axed from ESPN for similar allegations of harassment?
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
technically, they were sexually harassing each other and Harold lost the coin flip…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
well, who wouldn’t!
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
He's a sad, sad panda
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Can’t beat Burger King. You know you can get a refill on any drink you want?
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
A, to be a former major leaguer…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Really?
So it wasn’t one of those scenarios where Harold was Xeroxing his ass and putting copies in everyone’s cubicle?
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.
Yeah and that made me really sad. I always liked Harold. I’d hug him too, but not at work. You don’t hug co-workers.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I hugged my former boss when we went to a luncheon thingy a few months ago. I guess that was a legal hug.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
he was a Sabeanic GM
from his wiki page
Phillips is also credited with acquiring aging and ineffective players with large contracts like Mo Vaughn, Roberto Alomar, Pedro Astacio, Mike Bordick, Bobby Bonilla, Rickey Henderson, Kenny Rogers, Jeromy Burnitz and Kazuo Matsui.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
And to clarify
that is Jim Duquette, not Dan Duquette.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
No Tasch to the Marlins
Marlins just got Arthur Rhodes from Seattle for prospect Gaby Hernandez.
Nice trade for the Mariners…I wouldn’t have minded Hernandez for Tasch.
SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!
I have the feeling we aren’t making ay more trades, Unfortunately.
Hopefully I’m being unreasonably pessimistic. I mean, I know I’m being pessimistic: I predicted the Padres would sweep us in yesterday’s gameday thread. I just hope my current pessimism proves unreasonable.
everyone stays
we’ll need them next season to lose 98 games instead of 101 games.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM PDT reply actions
I don’t think that there is a wrong place to log your disapproval of Jose Castillo. I think there are better places. Like Bochy’s office. Sabean’s office.
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by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
No trades
We need these guys for our pennant run.
I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..
Brian Sabean, Is that you?
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Giants continue to play the old farts after the deadline, I’m going to start my own letter writing campaign, well okay, I’m cheap, maybe I’ll use postcards… all I’ll write: “Play the Kids!” sent to 24 Willie Mays Plaza by me and 100 of my closest friends.
They blamed “our” complaining for getting rid of Benito… what the hell…
I thought it was Benitez who Sabean was “forced” to trade by mean fans. Did he use that line for not re-signing Santiago too?
Wow… You got rid of Mussolini?
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by igotnothing on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Best thing I read all morning
The Red Sox will continue shopping Manny regardless, with the Dodgers and a mystery team in the mix. The Dodgers might be willing to part with Matt Kemp.
Bullshit or not, I really don’t care. :)
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ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Let it be known
This is the day I made Grant beg
“You call that begging? You can beg better than that” -Gogo Yubari
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
That made me hehehe out loud.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
my fantasy team would definitely approve of that trade.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
if that happens, my fanpost is soooooo vindicated. i can hear the cheesy dashboard song in my head now.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers got Manny
It happened, but they didn’t give up Kemp. Dodger fans I know are surprisingly nonplussed. I think we could trade them Omar.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
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Unsuccessful attempt at thread jacking!
How or why or when are the Giants almost entirely unlike happy kitten birthdays?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
made up trade idea
since today is the day to make up trades, here is one from my imagination:
the Twins are interested in Aurilia and one of the guys they are making available is Craig Monroe
the Rays are interested in acquiring Monroe
what it the Giants trade Aurilia for Monroe and then trade Monroe and Taschner for Reid Brignac. Do you think the Rays would make that trade?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM PDT reply actions
...no
they wouldn’t trade Brignac for Bay.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I think it was some of the pitching prospects, not Brignac, that de-railed that trade
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
In any case, the Rays have apparently labeled Brignac untouchable. They are not going to trade him for a LOOGY and Craig Monroe (who is awful.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I think of Taschner as more than a LOOGY. He’s pretty good at retiring righties.
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Still….. not going to be traded for Reid Brignac.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
and RHH are hitting .286/.367/.457 off him this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
That’s actually not bad for a shortstop. If he pitched full time, those numbers would go down.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And here’s a source that said they refused to include Brignac in a deal for Bay:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/07/29/heyman.tradeblog/index.html?eref=T1
Tampa has refused to include big shortstop prospect Reid Brignac in the Bay deal.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
ha ha, and here is a source that says the opposite, so who the hell knows
Clubs that have spoken with Tampa Bay say the Rays might be willing to build a trade around shortstop prospect Reid Brignac and one of the most enormous pitching prospects in the game, Jeff Niemann. But if the Pirates keep asking for David Price, Wade Davis and Jeremy Hellickson - three of the most highly regarded pitchers in any team’s system -
you might very well be right that they wouldn’t make that trade, but most of what I have read hasn’t said Brignac is untouchable.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s from yesterday, Heyman’s blurb is from this morning.
And untouchable or not, there’s no way in hell they’re trading him for Jack Taschner and Craig Monroe.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
he did go 2 for 4 with a 2B and a HR for Durham last night, so maybe they changed their mind after that.
ok, time to make up a new trade
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
my point was not so much that they weren’t ever going to trade Brignac ever, but that they wouldn’t trade him in your proposed deal.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
right, I know, I am just having some fun with it
but you did say they wouldn’t trade him for Bay. ha ha
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
so Jayson Stark defeats Jon Heyman today
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
STEEL CAGE DEATH MATCH
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
Fun Manny Ramirez story
I lived in Western Massachusetts for a year after college, and one day, while in Boston, I went on a ballpark tour of Fenway. The tour guide told a story from just after the Red Sox acquired Ramirez. The team was leaving on a road trip, and he left his car at the ballpark. He asked a ballpark employee to get the car washed while they were gone. The employee said sure, and asked for a few bucks to pay for it. Apparently, Ramirez said, “Oh, I left some cash in the glove compartment. Just pay from that an keep whatever’s left over for your troubles.” When the employee took the car to the car wash and checked the glove compartment, there was a few thousand dollars in cash.
A, to be a major leaguer.
Did Manny throw him on the ground when he found a dirt spot on his car?
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Wash car = dispose of the body in the trunk.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
The real story
Manny told the employee to wash his truck.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I see what you did there.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I would wash his car
...and by wash his car mean punch him in the face
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala
one summer i worked at a movie theater in downtown boston and manny – as well as a few other sox players – lived in a luxury condo hgih-rise across the street. one day manny came in with his wife to see a movie. i was working concessions (worst effing job i’ve ever had) and waited on them. his wife is really nice, and easy on the eyes. manny didn’t say a word. it was weird.
Noah Lowry
too bad he isn’t healthy, or we could be talking about dealing him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
Remember when were talking about Noah being part of a trade package for Joe Crede?
Yeah, that was awesome.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I am still rooting for Lowry and Foppert comebacks
And it has nothing to do with the fact that they are on two of my four signed baseballs.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
Schulman won’t make any deals? That’s a relief…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
y?
we could get rid of him 8.5 million for next year call up Nate who would outplay Winn without a doubt and add more power to lineup good speed cannon arm so please explain? unless you are Brian Sabean
if u ran the giants...............
half the fan base would be insane by now chances are you think Zito is “still an ace”
This is just the kind of analysis we would expect from someone who names himself after as shitty a starter as Matt Cain.
u really think cain is shitty?
ur an idiot 5th in all of baseball in K’s and is wat only 24? with a 3.7 era far from shitty do us a favor and go back to bed
methinks
and, mind you, this be just a theory, you is being played.
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um… third starter at best?
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
that's what she said?
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/7/31/583649/open-trade-deadline-thread#7780007
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
hahah ok
my bad took it to serioulsly but is this winn lover serious?
I would guess…no, he’s probably not. He is doing a fine old timey baseball thinking impression.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Come on dude, wake up and smell the roses, Cain is horrible.
His stuff is bad and you should feel bad.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
hahah
Wanna hear a fun fact Zito’s ERA: 5.8
K’s 71 walks 68
120 hits in 108 ip
u my friend are an idiot
I see what you did there
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Now we wait and see if Bochy continues to “showcase” Castillo at 2nd.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I enjoyed some of the replies to Schulman's piece:
If the Giants think they deserve a “bounty of quality” in return for two overpaid players who would be no better than 6-7 hitters on another team, then we know that no deals will be made today. This is the team that Sabean and Magowan built, and this is the albatross hung around the fans’ neck until the end of next season, after another year of watching good pitching get wasted by a less-than-major-league offense and questionable managing.
Posted By: Steve Soto | July 31 2008 at 10:45 AM
Is a trade really that important? No matter who they pick up, the incompetence and stupidity in the management and coaching ranks will remain, and they will remain the dumbest team in baseball. 23 shutout innings and not the slightest change in their approach. The whole organization is delusional.
Posted By: shakerandamover | July 31 2008 at 11:00 AM
Can they drug test Sabean ?
Posted By: dean1234 | July 31 2008 at 11:01 AM
Delusional. Absolutely delusional. So these 3 and 4 hitters will remain on the roster for…what purpose? So the Giants finish with 90 losses instead of 100? What difference does it make when this team is going nowhere this year or next? Why stall the rebuilding process any longer.
Sabean is the absolute worst GM I have seen in all of bay area sports in the last 15 years….name a worse GM in bay area sports in the last 15 years?
Absolutely disgusting.
Posted By: glettian | July 31 2008 at 11:02 AM

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
No we do-ont
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Beltre? Sure.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
o_O
I didn’t enter that again
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Lumpia Lincecum
Did you know Lincecum’s mother is Filipina?
A television station from the Philippines arranged interviews with reliever Geno Espineli, who is believed to be the first full-blooded Filipino in the major leagues, and Tim Lincecum, whose mother is Filipina.
Cool
Now I now what to get for his next birthday present.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
i beg to differ
I think Dustin Hoffman made that movie
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
RU FI O RU FI O
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
RUFI-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
White Sox on the verge of aqurining LHP John Lannan from the Washington Nationals
Lannan has had a decent year. Nothing crazy, but he’s under control through 2013 I think.
3.33 ERA, 4.39 FIP, 55.9 GB%, 13.12 K%, 7.9 BB%
Sabean is a tool
you’ve got such free reign to take this club in various directions and you leave us in neutral
www.wazzel.com (prove your sports knowledge if you can)
yes, and every player we'd trade would make it thru waivers.
easily
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
what about the players we'd be getting back?
what are the rules on that? Don’t the players we get back have to clear waivers too? What exactly are the rules?
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by NeifiChicken on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
If they’re not on the 40-man roster (like Denker last year) then they don’t have to pass through waivers. If they are on the 40-man, then they can be included as PTBNLs (there are some rules on this that I don’t understand).
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the crap we get in return probably would clear, too.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS
Brett Favre’s leg itched, so he scratched it!
More on this from ESPN as it develops.
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Wow, thank god Favre has his own section on the espn bottom line ticker.
I would be lost without it.
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Heard he has a decent arm for 3B
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
And he would certainly bring a lot of veteran savvy.
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That’s a lot of championships won between the 3 of them. Need that veteran grit.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a rumor, just an idea.
I’d like to see the Giants trade Vizquel to Cleveland for the last 2 months of the season. I’d settle for half of what we owe him for this season.
I'm sure the rest of AL Central agress with you
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala
Omar farewell tour
they could DH for him instead of the pitcher
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
nah, lets trade Vizquel and Amy G to Dancing with the Stars for Tom Bergeron.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was confused at first as well until I remembered ole Jake Taylor. I figured since we probably aren’t going to upgrade our team our minor league system, we might as well upgrade our sideline reporting.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Only one more hour til the deadline
I can hardly take the suspense…ZzZzZzzzz
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
Do you believe in miracles?
The San Francisco Chronicle suggests that Jose Castillo is the player the Twins are interested in.
Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.
Ha!
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
i actually thought castillo looked good at 2nd
not that i want him on my team, but he’s better at 2nd than at short or 3rd
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
"to first base"?
more like “in the general direction of the first-base side of the field of play”
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Before we get too excited
He links to the Schulman post I linked to a while back – the same one where Schulman says there probably won’t be any deals.
argh
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
it like J14 said.
hell just the idea of trading castle gets me excited. even if it is unlikely.
Freaken Tease!! What next you gonna look like a young Betty Page dressed up in latex french maid out fit an prance arround McChron?
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by daveinexile on Jul 31, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Molina
His line for the last two months:
June – .275/ .287/ .297
July – .183 /.221/ .317
He’s also borderline obese, and at an age where even healthy catchers usually decline. And he’s owed about $7M next year.
I think Sabean might be overvaluing him just a little.
Jacobs might be headed to San Francisco in exchange for Bengie Molina, the Marlins’ official site reports.
Spin: It’s no secret that the Marlins are seeking an upgrade at catcher, and Molina is an obvious target now that Pudge Rodriguez has already been dealt. The Marlins pulled Jacobs after six innings on Wednesday.
thats from last night
I’m pretty sure the pull was a defensive sub. they moved cantu to first and brought in someone else at third.
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Is Sabes planning on taking Bowker to a farm up North?
Make me proud again Hen
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
This just in from ESPN Trade Deadline Blog
Jon (Tulsa, OK): You assume that a team will sign Ibanez early and give up those picks, though.SportsNation Jonah Keri: (3:04 PM ET ) As long as Brian Sabean has a job, it’s a lock.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
go stupid
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Starting shortstop for the 2009 Giants: Jack Wilson.
Booooooook it.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
And there goes my Zobrist fetish, dammit.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No Orlando Cabrera or Edgar Renteria? They fit the bill of being roughly as productive as Wilson, but will cost a lot more.
I would pay good money for 2004 and 2007 Jack Wilson. I wouldn’t pay much for any of the other seasons, though, and you’d have to think those two years are outliers.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
now they can flip Wilson to the Dodgers for...
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That would have to qualify as a terrorist act. At least a threat.
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by daveinexile on Jul 31, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting.
I think Hermida + would have been better, but it sounds like the Marlins were the ones who screwed that deal up.
By the way, Bay’s middle name is Raymond, so he is a perfect fit for Tampa.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Tampa's Bay?
Jay Ray Bay is a Tampa Bay Ray?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Ibanez to Toronto.
BEST TRADE DEADLINE EVER (for teams not named the Giants)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Matty and Felipe, on the other hand...
/old joke, but I had no choice….
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
OPTIMISM!
So, who wants to place odds that we’ll have the same lineup tomorrow as we did yesterday?
Also: over/under on going another 25 innings without a run.
Yeah, if any old veterans are here at the end of the year, we are going to burn them up WickerMan style in hopes for a good crop.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
THE BEEEES!
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OG WIckerman: best movie ever
New skool WM: worst movie ever
it’s like bookends
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
I need to see the original, the new one was terrible, but watchable because of the tremendous Nick Cage performance.
by tremendous
you mean godawful, i assume?
original has nekkid Britt Ekland
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Until you’ve seen Nick Cage punch an assortment of women while wearing a bear suit and screaming NOT THE BEES, I don’t think you can properly judge the greatest of that movie.
I’ll google Britt when I get home.
oh, i've seen it
the bear costume sucker punch is a personal favorite
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Ha

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The funny thing is, the bee girl from the Blind Melon video is standing behind him.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
They don’t allow you to have bees in here.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
We have to evaluate them for Opening Day 2009! Contenders!
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers offered Ethier for Manny?
Here’s hoping Agent Ned panics and unloads the entire farm system
from Heyman on si.com
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions
Ethier, Kemp and LaRoche for Manny please
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
But the Dodgers still need a shortstop. Throw in Lugo for an additional James Loney and Jonathan Broxton.
The Sox should throw in Craig Hansen to sweeten the deal
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
If this happens, I’m sending a a sixpack of PBR to Theo & Agent Ned
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m on a budget for gifts.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
IT’S NOT HIS FAULT, HE NEEDS MORE THAN ONE YEAR WITHOUT BARRY BEFORE YOU CAN REALLY JUDGE HIM
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
YOU CAN’T JUDGE HIM UNTIL THE ZITO CONTRACT IS UP.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
the Sabean is a puppet defense
if he’s a puppet, then we can still get someone else.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Depressing
Sabean seems completely shot-shy when it comes to trades at the moment. Now that’s probably not a bad thing if it saves him from making bad trades, but it strikes me as odd that he’s not at all pro-active in whichever direction he’s trying to go in!
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Sabes' new nickname
Catch-22
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
why slander the best book ever written
by associating it with a retarded douchebag.
btw, what kind of a name is sabean?
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I only wish no one wanted them. That would inculde Sabean & Co.
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by daveinexile on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
i'd go with this one
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Omar mentioned on ESPN as a prime waiver trade candidate
sorry Manny no playing time for you
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Ok guys, I’m here. The trade deadline thread can start now.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
I wonder if Sabean knows today is the deadline.
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I bet he slept him dreaming of veteran savvyness.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, right!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The Ibanez deal apparently fell through.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
collective sigh
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
SABEAN, TRADE OUR SHIT! WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE GOOD NEXT YEAR YOU MFER!!!
/endfrustratedrant
by i wish we were good on Jul 31, 2008 12:51 PM PDT reply actions
8 minutes and counting
didnt we find out about Morris last year like a few hours past the deadline? this gives me hope for the rest of the afternoon, so don’t take it away from me.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply actions
We aren’t going to trade [insert washed up overpaid veteran].
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
daaaaamnnnn youuuuuu!
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
your tagline...
where is it from? sounds familiar
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Jack Handey
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Key-rect!
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Although I believe Sofa King has the correct spelling.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was like the revised ending of “Habeas Corpus” in The Player.
“Damn you, Sabean for not getting anything for Matt Morris!!! Wait, I’m getting a telegraph…it reads…’Morris traded….stop…!!!”
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
now Rosenthal is saying the Manny three-way is back on and the Bay to Rays deal is off?
I wanted Bay on the Rays :(
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I would like to punch Rosenthal in the face
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It would have been too confusing for me.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, me too. I’m really rooting hard for the Rays this year. Mostly because ESPN annoys the shit out of me with the CAN YOU BELIEVE THE RAYS ARE IN FIRST PLACE AND NOT THE SOX OR YANKS!? Bay would be a great pickup for them.
If anyone had watching any baseball over the last three years, you could see the Rays were building towards a pretty good team.
Sox fans
Starting to call this the Curse of the Manbino…
Ha! Another 86 years of purgatory for RSN
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
WE ARE TOO GOOD. I BOW DOWN TO YOU LORD SABEAN.
by i wish we were good on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions
Why so serious?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
i really want to see it again
don’t feel like I grasped everything I could the first time. A really excellent film, IMHO
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, it’s much better the second time around, when you don’t pee your way through the last 5 minutes.
Believe me.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
There was a ton going on that I’m sure I missed some things.
SPOILERS
Also, I wanted to know if anyone else picked up on Batman’s taking the fall for Dent’s murders as a way to punish himself further. He hasn’t forgiven himself for his parents’ murder, and the line “nobody else dies because of me” really told me that he hasn’t let it go.
End SPOILERS
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
There was a ton going on that I’m sure I missed some things.
SPOILERS
Also, I wanted to know if anyone else picked up on Batman’s taking the fall for Dent’s murders as a way to punish himself further. He hasn’t forgiven himself for his parents’ murder, and the line “nobody else dies because of me” really told me that he hasn’t let it go.
End SPOILERS
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, just in case somebody managed to avoid the spoilers the first time.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Goddamn it I have no idea why it posted so many damn times. Plus I put in stars to seperate the spoilers and everything. >:|
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Why so serious?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL rotoworld is saying that Griffey is going to play CF for the White Sox.
LOLOL.
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Swisher sucked that bad?
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, he's been surprisingly decent.
both by the metrics, and also according to WS fans.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
seems like I've heard that somewhere...
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
What we needed this deadline was a Lincecum to Toronto type rumour, which would have made things a bit less boring & left us all feeling relieved when we made no moves!
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remember
there’s still time for this announcement!
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
brian.sabean@dummysguidetobuildingfarmsystem.com
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Mark Ibanez deal fell through?
I was thinking Ibanez for Fonzi & Quan?
Like a lesbian couple that's just a little too angry, I'm still waiting for my chance at adoption.
I wonder what the Twins did offer for Aurilia that made us go “no thanks”!
I wonder what the Twins could offer for Aurilia that’d make us go “no thanks”!
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i think this even deserves its own fanpost
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Packers offered $20M to Favre to stay retired
wow. They fucking hate that guy!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions
I fucking hate that guy. I’d give $20M to never have to hear about him again. Hell, I’d probably give a testicle.
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-My Father.
by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
thats actually an interesting debate
never hearing about favre again, or having children? i can’t say I have an answer
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, he didn’t say it would be his testicle.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh good, this thread needed actual Brett Favre news.
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that's more newsworthy than Favre picking his nose and eating it
or whatever ESPN has been covering this morning.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
From Baggarly's Blog
The 1 p.m. Deadline has come and gone. I’m told the Giants will have nothing to announce today. There’s a conference call with Brian Sabean in a half-hour; perhaps we can get some insight into whether they were close to anything, and what lies ahead.
I’m sure we’ll hear Sabean say he has all of August to showcase the vets…
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Lineup tomorrow
LF Roberts
2B Castillo
RF Winn
C Molina
CF Rowand
1B Bowker
3B Aurilia
SS Vizquel
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
BARF
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
still not starting...

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
MOGS FTW
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Jon Heyman claiming Manny to Dodgers!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/31/manny.sweepstakes/index.html?eref=sircrc
please let Ned have given up Kemp…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Grant would explode
Into a million chocolate candies for us all!
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
Marriage made in heaven
The field-pisser now will be in the latrine.
(crosses fingers, crosses what toes will cross, attempts to cross balls)
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
meh
for a year or two I’d be happy to deal with that instead of the careers of Kemp and Co.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s also 36 and not likely to remain a Dodger for more than a year or two (during which time we aren’t going to be any good anyway.)
Also taking defense into account, he’s not as good as you would think, looking at his offensive numbers.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
and Nomar...LOL
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like Bay could still end up on the Sox through the Dodgers. Kemp to Pittsburgh?
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I hope not...
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
SI updated the story at the above link
Bay to Boston
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2008/07/23/the-dugout-mannywalking/
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
More non-trade, I don't care News: A-Rod's Marriage is over
and according to A-Rod, his being a cheating scumbag HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT...
And if you believe that, this is for sale on E-bay…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions
Wow
unless this MAnny thing is for real there was a lot of talk for nothing this year, and the to big trades that went down came out of no where.
I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!
Sabean you are worthless
You couldn’t even get rid of Matt Cain. For shame!
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HAY WHY R U CALLIN MATT CIAN A THRID STATRTER HES’ 2 GOOD 4 THAT
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WULD YOU STFD WE R KEEDING!!!
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU GUYS ARE EEDIOTS! MATT CAIN IS WAY BETTER THAN A 3RD STARTER. LOOK AT HIS VORP!
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny to LA, Bay to Boston
?? to Pittsburgh
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply actions
Four minor leaguers is what I read. It seems like there has to be more.
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by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
from si (same link as above)
The Red Sox traded embattled slugger Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers late Thursday afternoon, SI.com has learned.Jason Bay is headed to Boston as part of the deal, SI.com has learned. The Pirates will get four minor leaguers in the three-way trade.
The Red Sox went back-and-forth with the Marlins and Dodgers as the 4 p.m. ET deadline approached. Ramirez said earlier today, as first reported by SI.com, that he would accept a trade to any team.
The announcement will be made in conjunction with a World Baseball Classic announcement at Dodger Stadium shortly.
Just 4 minor leaguers? WTF?
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
Dodgers fans are shitting their pants
This is great. Will Carroll confirmed Manny to Dodgers as well.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
from truebluela
Oh Crap
Will Carroll (1:22:15 PM PT): Manny to Dodgers?
Will Carroll (1:22:51 PM PT): Yep, I have two sources on this one, plus Jon Heyman. NO idea on particulars.
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by Andrew on Jul 31, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
DAMN IT!
Rot in hell, Colletti!
by Tango and Cash on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
I’m just assuming we’re going to get hosed on this deal, so excuse me for my early tirade.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 31, 2008 1:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
Don’t you love watching dodgers fans shitting their pants??
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253818
by i wish we were good on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
HOLY SHIT! Haha, this dodger trade just made this deadline look soooo much better. roflowned. if only we could get a couple of maple bats for aurilia.
by i wish we were good on Jul 31, 2008 1:37 PM PDT reply actions
Robo sez: “The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Damien Moss and reliever Craig Hansen from the Red Sox.”
I assume they mean Brandon Moss for the outfielder.
In which case… meh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Damien Moss
Sigh. Another of our mistakes.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
andy laroche not a dodger is nice
kemp would have been better, but it’s nice.
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I’m disappointed they didn’t give up Ethier or Kemp.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Sox gave up Manny, Hansen and Moss for Jason Bay. Yes, they save some $, but I’d say they got ripped off.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently the Sox are paying all of Manny’s salary, so not so much.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Man they really wanted to get rid of him. Sad.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
didn’t know that. They have Bay signed for 2009, so it’s better than not picking up Manny’s option and then getting nothing for him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Not reeeeal familiar w/ the Dodgers system
What do you guys think about LaRoche and Morris?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I still think LaRoche is pretty good. Don’t know anything about Morris.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
2006 first rounder, seems like he has pretty good stats for a 21 year old in AA
by kingofthacove on Jul 31, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
LaRoche
Considered one of the best 3B prospects in the minors, behind only Longoria and Brandon Wood. Just hasn’t done it in short times he has been in majors, up and down. BA analysts ranked him highly this year overall: Callis #24; Lingo #13; Manuel #41; Kline #48, out of Top 50 prospects. #2 in Dodger’s system overall, behind Kershaw.
Morris was #12, ceiling as a #3 starter, no biggee, probably back of rotation stater.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 31, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The LaRoches are back together!
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I doubt it makes much difference, it’s not too hard to move players from third to second or first or a corner outfield spot.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Weren’t there reports Alvarez might not stay at third? He’s still at least a year or two from the majors anyway.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Just saw this in the BP chat:
Kevin Goldstein (1:46:31 PM PT): It’s funny Will, neither LaRoche or Alavarez are especially good defenders at third base. Both are kinda mediocre, but not total disaster types.
On the question of if this made Alvarez a 1B now. They can figure that out along the way, LaRoche should start right now in Pittsburgh. He’ll finally be unblocked by stupidity.
kinda feel like the bucs are getting hosed a little. obviously, it’s a good package, but just so they can get used as the sox unload Manny? laroche certainly has time to figure it out, but hansen has NO control, especially of his breaking/off-speed stuff. i just don’t quite get how they didn’t get a major league outfielder (kemp, ethier) in this deal. right now their starting outfield is McLouth, McCutchen, ?.
Exactly
Besides, you forgot about Brandon Moss, Cornball, he, like LaRoche, was blocked on the MLB roster, so the Pirates are probably putting Moss and LaRoche into the starting lineup immediately, Morris is too far away, plus just recovering from TJS, to give a guesstimate, and Hansen could just go in the bullpen and see what happens, couldn’t be any worse than what they got now.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 31, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
that's a little cornball...
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
An OF
of McLouth, McCutchen, Moss / Steven Pearce, is acceptable now, and could be very good in the future.
Ethier isn’t anything special. His career OPS+ is 106 in a corner. His D is OK, nothing special. He is young enough that he can improve, 26, but not so young that you would project stardom. If the price of acquiring Ethier is not getting LaRoche, then they’re probably better off not getting Ethier.
Moss is pretty much a league average corner OF this season, age 24, yes in a small sample. He’s not anything special, but growing up to be a league average OF in his prime is not unreasonable.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
any chance...
that Sabean finally gets it?
“Gee, nobody called, nobody wanted our players, maybe those old guys really aren’t any good… time to play the kids!”
no
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about as much chance
as Zito giving back some of his contract b/c he’s realized he’s pitched so crappy
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Fridays Line-up
LF Dave Roberts
2B Jose Castillo
RF Randy Winn
C Benji Molina
CF Aaron Rowand
1B Rich Aurilia
3B Pedro Feliz’s Glove
SS Omar Vizquel
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
Sabes will say
“At the end of the day, we kicked the tires on some proposals and fielded a lot of calls, but after doing our due diligence, where the rubber meets the road, we just didn’t feel we could pull the trigger on any one particular proposal.”
He pointed out that "the deadline at least for today is artificial. Now we’ll see who gets through waivers and who comes to their senses. The day has come and gone, but it’s not an impediment in my mind to what we need to do."
In other words…get yerselves ready for some more showcasing!
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel sorry for you
if you’re looking forward to the 49ers season. We are in for a long year, friend.
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by UnleashTheGore on Aug 1, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
When ManRam plays,
...Does Andruw Jones sit? That’s some awfully expensive pine-meat, Meat.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
doesn't jones play CF?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Jones and Pierre should sit, but the odd man out surely will be Ethier, which is too bad for him, but makes me laugh at the stupid Dodgers.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Rotoworld says that Manny was traded with the stipulation that the Dodgers don’t pick up his future options.
In which case, if this turns out to be Morris and LaRoche for 2 months of Manny… I like this less for the Dodgers.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Which means we like it more!
Even with draft picks, that’s still not the equivalent of a LaRoche, he’s a top 3B prospect, teams rarely get one like that with a late 1st/early 2nd pick or supplemental 1st pick, and besides which should be 4-6 years away from contributing, unlike LaRoche. They must like either DeWitt or Blake for 3B now, or maybe Ned thinks he’s a goner unless they win this season and so he is pushing his chips all in.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
But they can’t offer arbitration, they can only pick up his option.
Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...
You sure about that? That was supposed to be a part of the deal to the Marlins, Im pretty sure they can offer arb once they decine the option.
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Don't think so
It’s either/or.
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dodgers outfield
manny in left, kemp in center, ethier in right? that’s $40 million for a pinch runner (pierre) and a defensive replacement (jones)
Not quite
I think that is more like $27-8M per year for Pierre and Jones.
Cornball above noted that Jones has been sat down, he’s not the starting CF anymore, so probably Kemp is in CF.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 31, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Pierre gets $8M this year and Jones gets $9M.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Jones signed a 2-year, $36M contract.
I’m fairly sure he won’t be paid $27M next year.
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$12M signing bonus
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Which they paid him this year, right?
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or in December when he signed the deal. plus $9M this year and $15 next year.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, what’s the over/under for # of days it takes Jeff Kent to punch Manny for “being Manny”?
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
over/under
on manny suddenly realizing joe torre, manager of dodgers, is the same joe torre who used to manage the yankees and vetoing trade?
2 year deal. Manny will be gone after this year.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Jones deal
what a retard Colletti is. LA paid Jones a $12.2M signing bonus + 2 years at $9M (2008) & $15 (2009). And cuz that wasn’t enough, Ned threw in a no trade clause. LOL!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
no,
probably just a commuter
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
never thought i'd say this but...........
go D’ BAcks I don’t wanna c the dodgers in the playoffs anytime soon
go Rockies
another amazing comeback in the making…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 31, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
How can this whole situation work out to maximize the misery of the Dodgers?
Manny hits about .115 w/ no hr’s
Jones exercises no trade clause & remains a lousy Dodger for years.
Colletti, attempting to make up for lousy trades / signings, trades Kemp, Ethier & young pitching for Brett Favre, who promptly retires.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
I don't care if he hits or not...
I just want him to do something incredibly stupid and embarrassing… repeatedly, over the next two months.
Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...
For what it's worth
My Dodger-fan friend’s immediate reaction to the Manny trade (this was before it was announced who LA was giving up):
We’ll see who else Colletti gave up-they aren’t saying yet-but I imagine he just signed his walking papers. He already gave up ten probable years of good major league play for a half season of Casey Blake in a terribly foolish trade. If he raked the farm system even further for a half season of Manny and we don’t win the WS (which we won’t), he’s done.
No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.
It still seems to me that the Giants’ trash, weirdly enough, is exactly what the Dodgers needed. Randy Winn is no Manny Ramirez, but defense brings them a lot closer together than people think. Neither Vizquel nor Chin-lung Hu can hit, but they give you great D and you could pinch-hit for them liberally. Platoon LaRoche and DeWitt at third, and you’ve got a team that’s nearly as good as what they have now, plus you still have all those prospects.
Dodgers now have Manny, Nomar and Derek Lowe…obviously trying to recapture that Bosox magic circa-2004.
They need Dave Roberts to complete the set!!!
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
lol
Some radio host on ESPNews is incredulous that the Manny trade could ever possibly be bad.
I guess he didn’t REALLY want people to call in with opinions.
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BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
Manny Ramirez traded to the Dodgers.
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Can't find it
I tried freakindodgers.com and freakin-dodgers.com. What am I missing?
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by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I TOLD YOU SO!
I said Ramirez was coming west. I said so. Three days ago. Why the hell is Ned not sitting in Sabian’s chair? Why?
Hum-baby!
If I see Sabean on the street I might just kill him
So NO trades today. not one single move. the giants suck and sabean is unquestionably the worst GM in baseball. no doubt. but if the giants continue starting castillo, vizquel, and aurilia, I’ll probably convert to a Red Sox fan or something. I’m sorry, the Giants situation is beyond pathetic at this point.
dont get me wrong tho...
aight that killing + converting to a Red Sox fan was an exaggeration, but I’m so fed up w/ the Giants. When Randy Winn and Bengie Molina are your 3/4 “punch”, you have no chance. sorry. but it sucks cuz I love the giants to an unhealthy amount. so i’m a lil screwed
how sabean spent his deadline:
sabean: so we have this great prospect i have a feeling you all might be interested in, his name is jose cast…
every gm in the league via conference call: BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Trades?! We don't need no stinking trades!
Well, boys, this is it. Hang on and enjoy the decent into hell.
Hum-baby!
Well, at least it’ll be decent. I’ve heard horror stories about hell from other people.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 1, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions

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