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Open Trade Deadline Thread, 7/31

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For an opinionated jerkbag like myself, this might be the most exciting Giants trade deadline ever. The Giants aren't going to make any huge trades -- maybe Rich Aurilia here, or Jack Taschner there -- but they aren't going to get any future stars.

No, it's exciting because now we get to see if the Giants really are going to sit the veterans who aren't traded. If the veterans sit, we get to watch youngsters find their way. If the veterans play, I have the right to be the loudest bloviating jerkbag on the internet. It should be fun. Righteous indignation...spittle-flecked keyboards...saber rattling.... I'm in. Because if Omar Vizquel starts more than one game in any of the remaining series, I'm a mailing a severed ear to someone. It might be mine, and it might not be. And, really, a third of the remaining games would still be too many, so I think I'm being more than fair.

My prediction: Richie for an A-baller, and everyone else stays.

My other prediction: We actually will see more of the rookies.

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Ummm

there’s already one of these. Should I introduce you to the Recommended Diaries section, Grant?

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:09 AM PDT   0 recs

Oh snap. Thats right, he went there.

I am Cameron Wood and this is my son and business partner CW Culberson.

by camwoody on Jul 31, 2008 9:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

There’s already an Open Trade Deadline Thread, 7/31? I don’t put dates on the end of my titles for gits and shiggles.

by Grant on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Who’re you calling a shiggle?

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 31, 2008 9:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Can’t we all just get along?

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Typical git apologism.

by Grant on Jul 31, 2008 9:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Does it hurt to bloviate?

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My prediction: Castillo, Vizquel, et al keep playing every day after the deadline because “we need to showcase them for the waiver-deadline.”

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM PDT   1 recs

There's always some kind of deadline

to showcase veterans!

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I say they keep playing because “we’re trying to put our best team on the field,” or some such comparably clueless Bochy quote.

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 31, 2008 9:39 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep.

And they will end up saying they need to do this all the way up to the season, because they have to “play the game the right way” so as not to impact playoff races. This shit was old in 2005, its inexcusable now.

by out machine on Jul 31, 2008 10:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Look every game I’ve been to the attendance was over 32,000. Why change anything if the tickets are sold. And yes this is me at my most cynical, since nothing was done yesterday.

by timmeh on Aug 1, 2008 1:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1,000,000

Can I get a job with the Giants? As a player, coach, manager, front office, it seems that lack of performance is not only well-tolerated, it is often rewarded.

by Cleophus on Aug 1, 2008 1:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We just need to win!

I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..

by lmaozedong on Jul 31, 2008 10:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

(lol)

I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..

by lmaozedong on Jul 31, 2008 10:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’ll take it one step further: they’ll say we need to play them to showcase them for the waiver deadline, but they’ll also say that they have no intention of trading any of them because we need them for next year.

The running of this franchise defies parody.

by jcb9 on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think they think that they are raising the price other teams will pay, by employing this strategy. This, of course, assumes that the Giants management actually has brains that work the same way as the ones we use.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

SJ Giants

Sorry for busting in here, I’ve got an OT question that I’m wondering about. I’m going to the SJ Giants game this afternoon, is there any player there that I should keep an eye out for?

And to keep the ball rolling, I heard on the radio a few days ago someone called Cain, Lincecum and Molina “untouchable.” Lincecum yeah, I see that, but it seems like Cain could bring in quite a few prospects, enough to perhaps accelerate the development of the offense by one draft. And Molina as untouchable? That’s just crazy talk.

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM PDT   0 recs

Well

With Cain being a third starter at best, he probably wouldn’t bring back much. They’d be lucky to get someone like….well, off the top of my head, Mike Jacobs.

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

3rd starter at best?

On the Giants, or on any team? You must mean on the Giants. That’s just incorrect. This year, Cain has a 116 ERA+, 138/58 K/BB and a 1.274 WHIP. Sanchez has 93, 126/63, 1.447.. Also I read yesterday that Sanchez has had an 8.xx ERA over the last month, so maybe he was just playing over his head at the beginning of the year. Cain is the #2, no question.

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pstt

joke….read around the threads. You’ll understand

Bill Mueller? I expect at least A-Rod type numbers from my son, Conor Gillaspie

by Gamer101 on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

also:

caveat sarchasm

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 9:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

n00b

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I sure am. And I’m a Dodger fan too. :O

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I'd make that face if I was a Lasorda lover, too.

Probably shoot myself and feed myself to Tommy as well

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hah

That’s what I love about Giants fans, all class.

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yup

on a side note
beach balls = class
showing up in the third and leaving in the seventh = class
Jeff Kent = class

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That’s what I said about Dodgers fans at Dodgers Stadium.

I guess it’s okay to be called a Chink in that stadium.

BTW how’s Tommy’s son doing?

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And thus concludes this episode of Tales from the Typical Sports Fan Forum.

Clinojim didn’t start the fire. It was always burning something something. We’re too snobby and elitist to get into a YouTube-style comment war.

by Grant on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well he should’ve directed his bitching to me if he had a problem, not the rest of you guys.

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Here’s the thing: There’s nothing better on a sports board than friendly ribbing. A Dodgers fan who can prove that he isn’t a dickbag is a very valuable thing…for us to poop on. Metaphorically, and in good humor, but still….

There used to be a Dodgers fan who hung around the Giants newsgroup, and everyone got along great with him. And that’s where the best trash talking came from. Most opposing fans snooping around don’t have good intentions, but the ones who do are fun.

Moral of my tale: Let those who are bags of dicks prove themselves to be bags of dicks before flaming them.

by Grant on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Now be gone with you, or I shall taunt you a 2nd time!!

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 31, 2008 10:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My buddy convinced me to become a basketball fan when I moved to SLC. I followed the Jazz because he did. Then, I attempted to make him a baseball fan, and he is, but just to spite me, he became a Dodger fan. He’s just a son of a bitch like that.

In anyy event, he posted a blog today to try to piss me off. It says something about the Dogs shutting us out.

In the spirit of good natured ribbing, I thought it could be rather hilarious if I could get a bunch of people to comment on his blog talking shit. Now, I would ask that people be at least somewhat nice, as he is my buddy. But, it could be rather funny. And who doesn’t like giving shit to a Dodger fan?

If you’d like to, http://timglennofglendora.blogspot.com/2008/07/good-old-days.html

If not, cool.

Thanks.

"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.

by thecrippesking on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I got your back

by Nellieball on Jul 31, 2008 5:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry Grant

Didn’t mean to stir things up. I’ll get out ofhere now and let the trade deadline work itself out. Thanks for the tips, I’ll watch for Downs and D’Alessio.

by Clinojim on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Such sincerity

Mogwai?

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 10:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Leave Clinojim alone... RIGHT... NOW!!

I mean it!

That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!

by tobias on Jul 31, 2008 10:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Shouldn’t you be in your Losers Anonymous meeting?

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

—-—-—-—-—-——->

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I will never tire of enjoying that picture.

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So what the hell happened to Lasorda in this pic anyway? He looks like one hell of a break dancer to me!

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If I remember correctly

He dropped his Dodger Dog and in his eagerness, attempted a flip to retrieve it. Right?

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Now it all makes sense. But it makes me laugh big time to think that was the seventh inning stretch and he was singing take me out to the ballgame while break dancing, like Justin Timberlake and shit!

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He was coaching 3rd in an all-star games a few years ago and tried to back-peddle to get out of the way of a ball coming at him. His legs don’t move like they apparantly once used to and he went ass-over-tea-kettle. I just tried but couldn’t find it on youtube

Adoptive father of howtheyscored. The beatings will begin momentarily.

by Goofus on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

::Holds up the garlic and wooden cross::

You shall be defeated!

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!

by WalrusMan on Jul 31, 2008 3:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude

Matt Cain sucks

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

SJ Giants

There are quite a few really good players on the San Jose Team, too many really. Tons of speed in the outfield, as well as some of the infielders. Not to mention their pitchers – with Tim Alderson as an example. He is awesome. They are moving players around a bit, maybe to be seen for trades? I don’t know. D’Alessio has been starting at first base, and he has pretty much been their DH all year – don’t know what’s up with that one. But you will see a lot of talent. Hopefully they can complete the 4-game series with another win today.

by flyonthewall on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Jackson Williams

hehe

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Matt Downs is well regarded around here. I like Andy D’Alessio. And basically you can’t go wrong with any of the starting pitchers.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah look for Jose Castillo

he’s a pretty good AA baller. Oh wait he’s our effing starting 2nd basemen and he hits second!!!! He’s craptastic…AT BEST!!!!111oneone

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala

by jhiat00 on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Before I go to sleep (it’s 1:26 A.M. in South Korea), I just crossed my finger for our future. I hope to I can make big smile on my face when I get up and check the news.

This is all I can say: Go Giants !

Giants the never sunset.

by aras on Jul 31, 2008 9:28 AM PDT   0 recs

I think everyone will stay, with Aurilia being the only one who might possibly go, but i wouldn’t be surprised if he stays as well. I also think the veterans will keep on playing after the deadline because they still did last year & Bochy is an idiot!

Proud owner of the most boring Username! Alex Hinshaw: Now showing in a bullpen near you!

by GiantFan on Jul 31, 2008 9:31 AM PDT   0 recs

what in the wild wild world of sports is a-goin' on here?

i hired you fellas to get some trades done, not to sit around like a bunch of Kansas City ____. (fill in the blank)

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM PDT   0 recs

Gotcha covered

i hired you fellas to get some trades done, not to sit around like a bunch of Kansas City Royal Fart Chiefs.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

BTW

I lol’ed at your Slim Pickens.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

'Scuse me mr taggert sur,

Can I have some more beans.

Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.

by Andy from DC on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

mongo LIKE veteran savvy

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’d say you’ve had enough!

Patron saint of pesky hitters.

by younghutch on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Everyone Stays

That’s my feeling. Sadly.

And Bochy’s too old-school to sit the vets. He wants to “respect the game”. I’d prefer he chose to respect me by not forcing me to watch Omar Vizquel hit.

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 9:38 AM PDT   0 recs

Trouble is

Bochy considers someone like Castillo a vet that needs to be respected. That wouldn’t happen on any other team, but Sabean allows it because Sabean’s the kind of guy who paid Dave Roberts a whole ton of cash in a nonsensical contract.

Sabean likes to overpay mediocre and over-the-hill talent.
Bochy likes to overplay mediocre and over-the-hill talent.

Sadly for us, they’re a match made in heaven.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm getting sick of Buster Olney

He can’t get over this Manny thing, and how “unworkable” the situation is, and how there’s a 1% chance he finishes the season with Boston. He went on to essentially tell Steve Phillips that he was completely off base. Um, who is the former GM? Who has previous experience dealing with players and making deals at the deadline? I’m not a Phillips apologist, and I don’t think he was great, but I think that his perspective is refreshing.

Between that, and Olney’s accusation that MLBtraderumors.com does retro-timestamps to seem like they broke the story first, this guy’s ego is WAY too big and needs to be brought back to reality.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 9:49 AM PDT   0 recs

You think Steve Phillips’s perspective is refreshing? Really?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

His theory on blown saves is, what I thought, refreshing.

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it’s cool to have a former GM doing some reporting. Beats all the other talking heads they put out there.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 10:01 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have to concede that I don’t know his views on the subject.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 10:01 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

crap, that was supposed to be a reply to SoFa King Mike, sorry.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hah. Maybe he was kickin it with Rick Sutcliffe between innings.

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Steve Phillips

The fact that trading Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano earns you a spot on Baseball Tonight instead of a spot on baseball’s blacklist under Jose Canseco speaks volumes about ESPN.

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 10:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

he was gone when that trade was made. I believe Duquette was the genius responsible for that one.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You guys are right!

I need a new reason to hate Phillips now.

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs