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Open Trading Deadline thread

Give us your rumors, your ideas, your thoughts. There are going to be a lot of them flying around in the next couple of days. So far we have the Twins interested in Aurilia, Giants interested in Beltre, and groug interested in farts. Also, supposedly the Marlins offered Mike Jacobs for Molina straight up. Hopefully, there will actually be more action than us just sitting around, hitting refresh over and over on [perferred sports site].com (or turning on the Auto-reload feature if you're on Opera/Firefox). Have at it!

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What kind of spam are you posting around here Natto?

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How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!

by WalrusMan on Jul 30, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Really

Seriously lacking in references to Zito’s uni number.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baggarly sez:
When I talked to Brian Sabean yesterday, he said he wasn’t sitting on any fair-value offers for his relievers, nor were any teams still trying to pry away Matt Cain or Tim Lincecum. He did seem a bit cagey when I asked if he was optimistic of getting something done. "There could be something," he said.

Vaguely interesting?

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I believe we should trade our roster for a better roster.

by chilibean_3 on Jul 30, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Why stop there. I think we should trade our GM for a better GM.

Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 30, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yanks just acquired Pudge, no word on who else is involved in the trade.

Didn’t see that one coming.

by xanthan on Jul 30, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Whoa

Jose not gamer enough for them?

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by Natto on Jul 30, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, just saw it was Professor Farns, interesting. Nice pick for the Yankees if Pudge turns down arbitration, he should net them some draft picks. But he could also accept.

by xanthan on Jul 30, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, the Dugout used to be so good.

pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth: they tolt me not to drive my fort explorer onto the field but i did it anywayz, cause thats how i’m rollt
Cat Osterman

Gato: yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. You just kept throwing your hands up and dancing around the car, even when you gave up six walks and four doubles. What were you doing?

pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth: ghost riden the WHIP

by xanthan on Jul 30, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

GHOST DAD THE WHIP

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

obscure rap reference

by Giant Voodoo on Jul 30, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good News Everybody….

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

risky business offering Pudge arbitration. I’m guessing they think Posada will be back next year, but in any case, he helps them this year.

I guess that means Inge is going back to catcher full time. Not sure that helps them in their pennant run.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really

The talk is that Posada is done as catcher, that if he comes back in 2009, it will be at 1B.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that means the Yanks won’t be exercising Giambi’s $22M option for 2009…probably a good move.

Posada is about to turn 37 and the Yanks are on the hook for $39.3M from 2009-2011 (during which season he’ll turn 40). He’s been relatively healthy during his career until this year, but he’s a lot less valuable as a 1b than as a catcher.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good news, everyone!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn you Howie! Damn my inability to read further on these damn things.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should I pick up Farnsworth in my fantasy league?

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 30, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow, that's interesting

a trade happening that I did not hear one single rumor about. Just one more reason all this time I waste following every rumor is kind of silly

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 30, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

So are the Tigers throwing in the towel?

Quick, see if they’ll take Vizquel for Cabrera

by Hac Man on Jul 30, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great, now lets send them Bengie.

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by sfgreg on Jul 30, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, what? How does that make any sense at all for Detroit?

by Evan on Jul 30, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Win now.

Inge is probably a better hitter than Pudge, probably worse D. On the whole, a wash. They pick up a decent reliever in Farnsworth, with decent peripherals, to strengthen a shaky pen.

They don’t have prospects to trade, so they are basically trading away, besides Pudge, the 2 draft picks that Pudge could have brought them, to strengthen the roster for this season.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 30, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s a good move for them, their farm is pretty decimated after last offseason. They should be stocking up wherever possible.

It is true that Farnsworth’s ridiculous HR rate should improve in Comerica.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't believe that it is a good move either

Just stating what I believe is DD’s reasoning.

They probably believe that they are close enough to the WS and the Twins to make a run.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 30, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Inge a better hitter than Pudge?

Inge is hitting about 50 points above his career OPS, Rodriguez is hitting about 50 points below his, and their season numbers are almost identical.

Granted, Pudge is not likely to get better at his age, but realistically neither is Inge.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here are their OPS+ last 5 years

from 2004-2008.

Inge: 109, 100, 98, 80, 101.

Pudge: 136, 94, 97, 85, 101.

I’m not sure why you’re using career averages, when Pudge is 36 years old. And Inge’s career numbers are dragged down by his first 3 years when he had had OPS+s of 24, 64, 64.

Their offense this year is the same. Pudge was better last year, the year before that they were about equal, and Inge was better the year before that year. Pudge was much better 5 years ago, but I don’t see how that has much relevance.

Given that Inge is 5 years younger than Pudge, I’m willing to bet on Inge being better for the remainder of the season.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 30, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

My final word on the subject:

The last team that had Brandon Inge as their starting catcher lost 119 games.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

The last team that had Barry Bonds as their starting leftfielder lost 91 games.

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by Lyle on Jul 31, 2008 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

What?

In what universe is Inge a better hitter than Pudge? And what do you mean “probably” worse D, he is most definitely worse D, in fact, he hates playing catcher, that’s why they were looking to move him in spring training and why people here speculated about whether or not to get him or not in trade. He’s been basically a Pedro Feliz clone at 3B, both offensively and defensively, that tells you enough about how that works for the Tigers.

Didn’t Farnsworth used to be with the Tigers?

I don’t think Pudge would yield two draft picks, as some suggest, because he’s not good enough now for a team to sign him before the deadline, and not good enough for the Yankees to offer him arbitration, he could get an arm and leg there (he got $13M this season and thus could get more in arbitration). However, I can see them signing him to a still princely sum (say $10M per) for multiple years (he’s 36, so maybe 3 years with option) which should keep him happy.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not a Feliz clone at 3b

he’s a pretty significantly better hitter than Feliz, Feliz has the better D. Last 5 years, except for one year in 2007, he has consistently been around a 100 OPS+ offensive player. Feliz is around 85.

And if you bother to look at how Inge has been used by the Tigers this year, he’s already been playing some catcher.

Yes, he hates playing catcher. He also hates not playing at all even more.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me neither

I thought the Yankees needed pitching. Could there be a worse GM than Sabean? I say yes.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the heck? This is a great trade for the Yankees. They get a big upgrade at catcher, all they have to give up is a pretty mediocre reliever and they possibly get two draft picks out of it at the end of the year.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make a good point regarding Pudge being a Type A Free Agent. Yankees do have a decent bullpen help besides Farnsworth. I would rescind my statement but they are the fucking Yankees, so to hell with them. Call me Stubborn.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's stupid because of that trade

I think he’s stupid because he overvalues his prospects. If he had traded just some of them the Yankees could have been at the top of the division by now. They would be signifigantly less screwed in their rotation if Cashman had just given up ONE of Hughes, Chamberlain, or Ian Kennedy. That could’ve landed them Sabathia or Santana.

by boonitez on Jul 30, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uhh, you guys are aware that the Yankees

current starting catcher before the trade is Jose Molina, no? And that they were one injury to Molina away from having Chad Moeller as their starting catcher?

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 30, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and the Red Sox are one injury to Dustin Pedroia away from having Alex Cora being their second baseman. You usually don’t get that much production out of catcher, so I don’t see the big deal. Then again, the veteran savyness that comes with Pudge might put them over the top if baseball playoffs weren’t such a freakin crapshoot.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with your analogy

Jose Molina is basically Alex Cora. So the Yankees already have “Alex Cora” starting.

Veteran savvyness of Pudge? Here are Jose Molina’s OPS+, last 5 years: 76, 70, 65, 61, 58.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

So wait...

...the Tigers are now contending for the playoffs with Brandon Inge as their first-string catcher?

Or else, they’re two games over .500 and they’re throwing in the towel?

Very confusing.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Natto

Where did you hear the Mike Jacobs rumor? I would think hard about that one if I were Sabean.

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 30, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Here is a mention of the rumor:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/giants-like-adr.html

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by sfgreg on Jul 30, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why Not

a young power hitting corner infielder. Sure his BA and OBP are ridiculously low, but a legitimate power threat (more than double the amount of HR any other Giant has) for a short term fix (which is what Bengie is).
Obviously it is not a slam dunk (it rarely is) and it I don’t know if even I would make the trade, but it is something to think about.

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 30, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the worst first baseman in the NL this year when you take offense and defense into account.

DNW.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldnt be worse

Than what we have seen from Bowker the past 2 weeks.

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 30, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t mean he’s a player we should be pursuing.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bowker may get better
Jacobs probably will not.
Bowker is cheaper.
QED

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jul 30, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

caveat emptor

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

And we all know that making decisions based off of a two week sample size is a good idea.

Horrible OBP and fielding make him a very easy no.

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by marcello on Jul 30, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

took us about 5 minutes to blow our noses on it

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jul 30, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

From, like, every other trade Fanpost.

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by Natto on Jul 30, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, 22 homeruns sounds tempting until you realize that’s coming along with a .291 OBP so far this year. I’ll pass. Beltre might be a decent upgrade at third, though, if he could be had reasonably cheaply.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 30, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some rumors:

The Angels may be interested in Mark Teixeira
The Brewers have interest in Ray Durham
Talks between the Brewers and Cleveland have broken down, it looks like Sabathia will be staying put
The Cubs and A’s are talking about a possible Rich Harden deal
The Dodgers are in hot pursuit of Casey Blake
The owners are assholes.

by positiveuphemism on Jul 30, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmm..

I’d maybe take a speedy CF type and a AAA swingman for Ray Durham.

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by WalrusMan on Jul 30, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d heard that one about the owners, so no scoop here.

by toofruss on Jul 30, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN reports Brett Favre might unretire!

It is the freakin’ Brett Favre network lately.

by out machine on Jul 30, 2008 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

fuckin seriously

I got tired of it in the first week. It’s still the same like a month and a half later. I hate Brett Favre.

by boonitez on Jul 30, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

TITLETOWN

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other than game broadcasts

I can barely watch anymore. Sometimes I can stand Baseball Tonight for a couple of segments. But the copy writing is so forced, smarmy and bad on Sportscenter I can’t watch for long.

by out machine on Jul 30, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

I love how Bumblefuck, Georgia won that. ZOMG their highschool wins state a lot!

by boonitez on Jul 30, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least they weren’t busy telling us about who’s more “NOW” or Later or whenever as if that has anything to do with fucking sports.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

I also love how in that contest, Jeff Gordon was considered more ‘now’ than Barry Bonds. Even though the point of the contest was to see who got the most attention, good or bad, off the field as well as on/

by boonitez on Jul 30, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is you can tell the SPortsCenter anchors are tired of Brett Favre.

by cheno on Jul 30, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quiet, puny anchors. You must SUCK it UP to give the PEOPLE what they WANT.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN's NFL coverage:

1) Favre News
2) 7 second video clips of Adam Pacman Jones running around at Cowboys camp

*rinse and repeat

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 30, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some more rumors:

Britney Spears is suffering from depression
Miley Cyrus wants to end her Disney show
Lindsey Lohan is a lesbian

by Hac Man on Jul 30, 2008 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Miley also wants to be nude in a movie

by kingofthacove on Jul 30, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barry Zito now admits he wants to get into directing.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 30, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

made me laugh

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zito for Hannah Montanna? Kick the tires.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Jul 30, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zito for Tricia Helfer

puhleez

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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 30, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

+7

...is what you mean, I believe.

And I wholeheartedly concur.

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by Lyle on Jul 31, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

She probably has a better arm than Zito anyway

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Richie for Boof?

I could go for that. Boof could return to the Giants org and take the 5th starter spot from Correia who I believe is a better suited for a relief role.

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 30, 2008 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree here

Seems like once Correia gets into the fifth and sixth inning, he gives up lots of run.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't agree

Not last season, Correia was aces starting. We need to see if we can tap into that regularly; Boof, however, appears to be the definition of 5th starter. Which means once he reaches free agency, he will take the Brett Tomko, Sidney Ponson, Jeff Weaver driving tour of the major leagues In Search Of Revelency

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correia was great starting last season, but this season after his oblique injury, he’s shown a distinct lack of stamina (he seems to keep losing it around 60-70 pitches, which really isn’t good.)

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

by the way, Martin

Great choice for your picture. That’s a great show and fits quite well with your username!

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

hee hee

farts

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by groug on Jul 30, 2008 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks like the Dodgers will probably get Maddux, according to ESPN.

by cheno on Jul 30, 2008 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

sheisse!

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like it when Maddux is on the Dodgers :(

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nor do I.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn Padres

Always screwing with the Giants in some way…

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants Prospects

Which Giants prospects should they consider not to trade?

Who are the Grade “A” prospects within the organization? Here is my list, that is it would take a stud player(s) from another team to trade these guys:

1. Madison Bumgarner
2. Timothy Alderson
3. Angel Villalona
4. Pablo Sandoval

Others are available in deals.

by wilriv21 on Jul 30, 2008 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I would add

Rafael Rodriguez to the list.

Also Henry Sosa, and probably Nick Noonan.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently Manny could be soon traded to… the Marlins???

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny in Miami...

What could possibly go wrong?

by cheno on Jul 30, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

i lol'ed

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is almost a done deal...

from MLBTR

5:56pm: Baseball Prospectus’ John Perrotto has multiple baseball sources saying the Red Sox are on the verge of sending Ramirez to Florida for three players, including outfielder Mike Stanton.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is fucking mental

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit

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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 30, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wonder if this is good for my fantasy team...

Bill Mueller? I expect at least A-Rod type numbers from my son, Conor Gillaspie

by Gamer101 on Jul 30, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade Manny

Sign Bonds.

This is the way. Do eeeeeet.

by positiveuphemism on Jul 30, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

never happen

not in racialist Boston

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I can’t really think of a logical reason why the Sox would get rid of Manny other than a 3 way deal.

Damn you sfgreg!!!

by positiveuphemism on Jul 30, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possible 3 way deal???
A new wrinkle has been added to the Manny Ramirez to Marlins’ scenario. A source told MLB.com that a three-way trade may be in the works.

Under this scenario, Ramirez would go to the Marlins, while Jeremy Hermida would go to the Pirates, and Jason Bay would go to the Red Sox.

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by sfgreg on Jul 30, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope this goes down

EPIC TRADE DEADLINE IS EPIC

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marlolins if this happens.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 30, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, I don't get why they're doing this at all

STILL. EPIC.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's pretty wild

and probably too wild, since all 3 of those guys are currently playing in games for their respective teams. In fact, they’re all 0 fer 1!

by BigO on Jul 30, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be funny.

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by Natto on Jul 30, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who the hell is Ehire Adrianza?

And how did he end up on the Giants AAA roster at age 18 after spending very little time in rookie league with the Dodgers last year and Giants this year? Meaning no time in any of the A-leagues, not A, A+, AA, AAA until now.

http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=32857

According to Baseball Reference, he’s playing for Fresno… Must be some sort of glitch or typo, or can someone confirm?

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

he did play rookie ball in the DSL last year and in Arizona this year. He’s a SS, so he probably came up in a pinch to fill in. it happens sometimes.

Is this the same cat who played in Arizona in a day game and then made it to Fresno (or wherever Fresno was playing) for a night game a few weeks back?

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gamer?
Is this the same cat who played in Arizona in a day game and then made it to Fresno (or wherever Fresno was playing) for a night game a few weeks back?

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by FairweatherFan on Jul 30, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

It was when they were in Tucson at the start of the month, so he was probably the closest warm body.

How about that 1.292 OPS in AAA!

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by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1 for calling the guy, ‘cat’

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by GiantsFanInExile on Jul 30, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, there really should be an unintelligible fanpost about this a month ago.

And to be clear, I’m not saying in any way that you should be expected to have read / remembered a dumb fanpost from a month ago. It’s just a funny fanpost.

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by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, there shouldn’t be.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

We certainly couldn’t expect that kind of memory from the man who inadvertantly started the “Jerome Williams signed with the A’s?” meme.

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by groug on Jul 30, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same thing happened with Casey Bond in a game in April. He played one game for Fresno before the rookie seasons even started.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blockbuster Deal

Yankees send LaTroy Hawkins to the Astros for A-ball second baseman Matt Cusick

from astros.com

by rightcenterfielder on Jul 30, 2008 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

The Astros are legitimately insane. No doubt about it.

by cheno on Jul 30, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

This trade significantly improves both teams.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

a modest proposal for a 3 way

Benjie to Marlins for prospects; those prospects plus another one to Seattle; Beltre to us.
Beltre replaces Benjie at cleanup for 1.5 years.

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by foothillsfan on Jul 30, 2008 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

three-ways are bad ideas

too many elbows and hurt feelings

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jul 30, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They can be fun

they can be awkward
they are strange entities

by positiveuphemism on Jul 30, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Not sure there is a modest way to go about proposing one.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 30, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of beer helps.

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by leftymalo on Jul 30, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

easy!

You tell the idea to your girl, with her roomate nearby. Your girl is disgusted, but her roomate is intrigued and feels complimented that you think of her that way. Your girl breaks up with you, and her roomate asks her if it’s OK if she now dates you. Your now-ex says, “go ahead, he’s a pig, I don’t care!”

Wait….that’s how you get to your girl’s roomate. Who knows, maybe it would turn into a 3-way anyway.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

You watch too much porn

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

nah it's actually a different reference

I’ll wait to see if anyone gets it.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

But you just couldn’t go through with it could you?

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or…

Hey, you remember that thing we were talking about? Jerry is into it!

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you crazy? This is like discovering plutonium...by accident!

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by camwoody on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

::golf clap::

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand, you have won contests with those hands.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the best episodes ever. Love the montage of George and Jerry in the coffee shop/ walking down the street/ etc

by Nellieball on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who do we get to eat?

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by Natto on Jul 30, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jacobs a reality?

As of 7:40 p.m., MLB.com is saying there is now “strong speculation” that Jacobs is headed here after he was pulled in the sixth inning.
http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/jacobs_for_molina.html

I thought the Giants had a rule prohibiting players who hit more than 10 home runs?

by paralyzedplaya on Jul 30, 2008 9:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t expect a deal for Jacobs, he usually is pulled early for a defensive replacement.

Here is the latest from the official site:

The Giants appeared no closer to making another deal before Thursday’s Trade Deadline, although that didn’t halt rumors involving them.
Two Major League scouts representing other teams said Wednesday that they knew of no imminent trades involving San Francisco

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by sfgreg on Jul 30, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

goddammit

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

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by Natto on Jul 30, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reposting this from another thread:
Jacobs said he caught wind on Tuesday that he could be headed to San Francisco. So when he was removed after six innings, he wondered in the dugout if he was about to be dealt.

“It crossed my mind,” Jacobs said after the Marlins edged the Mets, 7-5, on Wednesday. “Nobody said anything to me.”

Asked his reaction to possibly being traded to the Giants, Jacobs said: “I would not be surprised. I know [Molina] is one of the guys they were talking about. So anything at this point wouldn’t surprise me.”

Link

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by BruteSentiment on Jul 30, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Argh...

What the fuck? Trade every single player over 30 now! I would rather have an under 30 team of suck than an over 30 team of suck.

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by camwoody on Jul 31, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

and fyi

Encarnacion is hitting .259/.345/.500, and has been better on the road.

by kingofthacove on Jul 30, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d certainly feel a lot better about it now than I would have a month ago. :\

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

nosiree bob

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Increased workload

At what point do we attribute his declining success to the increase in the numbers of innings he has worked? If my math is correct, he has 50+ more IP this year than last. Should we shut him down?

by Saustown on Jul 31, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was thinking the same thing

But it would be strange to shut a pitcher down this early in the season. Who would take his place?

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by camwoody on Jul 31, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mad Bum!

It would fit the whole “Bring-’em up early” strategery this year.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

0_o

I would be frightened

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by camwoody on Jul 31, 2008 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Relpy= Fail

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by camwoody on Jul 31, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

1 pm pacific time, 4 eastern

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by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Whoops, missed the reply button.

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by sfgreg on Jul 31, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did it used to be at night?

I thought in years past it used to be like 9p/12e or something…

by Gob on Jul 31, 2008 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Griffey to the White Sox for a couple prospects.

I’m not sure why.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah, my thinking exactly

Thome at DH, with an OF of Swisher, Dye, and Quentin. Where does he go? Even converting to 1B takes away from Konerko.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

fixed

Thome at DH, with an OF of Swisher Junior, Dye, and Quentin.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they acquired Griffey to play CF, I will never stop laughing.

If I had to guess, I would think they’d bench Konerko, put Thome at first and Griffey at DH.

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they’ll play Griffey in the outfield & move Swisher to 1B. Who’s going to play CF though i don’t know!

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by GiantFan on Jul 31, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just guessing that they might have something else cooking too, as they have been looking for pitching all year.

by toofruss on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sanchez, really?

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=972

“Names popping up at the last minute: Marcus Thames, Huston Street, Jonathan Sanchez, and Paul Byrd.”

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by iamawesomer on Jul 31, 2008 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

lol Will Carroll

I also hear that Pete Rose is going to be reinstated any day now!

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Call me crazy

Trading Sanchex for a LEGIT middle of the order prospect is a good idea I just don’t see him ever being more than a 5th starter.

by Steve Decker Rated Rookie on Jul 31, 2008 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Do you really think he could bring back a middle of the order prospect?

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by camwoody on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could you say he’ll be a 5th starter…at best?

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by groug on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

a FIFTH starter?

Dude, do you know how low the threshhold for fifth starters is?

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by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong

Only 867 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Jul 31, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Impossible

We’ve already locked up our 5th starter for the next 5 years at around $90 million.

Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...

by tedfordfan on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

We wish

By the end of this season SF will have “only” paid him $24.5M, so that would leave $101.5M outstanding!

by wilriv21 on Aug 1, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

dirty Dirty Sanchez

I’ve also heard he’s a bad tipper, trade him

by Steve Decker Rated Rookie on Jul 31, 2008 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Yahoo is reporting Griffey to the White Sox in exchange for P Nick Masset and 2B Danny Richar.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Prospect

I think he could bring in a high/low A type middle of the order bat. Sanchez had a great first half is young and cheap. Left handed and strikes out a lot of hitters. There has to be some solid value there.

The problem I have with Sanchez is something about when he is on the mound I don’t feel confident.

Bold prediction for 2009: Zito has a much better year than Sanchez

by Steve Decker Rated Rookie on Jul 31, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Counter Bold Prediction: You’re on drugs.

by xanthan on Jul 31, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or off the meds

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a bit less sure about Sanchez now than I was a month ago, but there’s no way Zito outpitches him next year.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 31, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is how I feel too

But I’m not disappointed that Sabes is floating his name – even if it’s just to see what he could fetch.

by Gob on Jul 31, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to have to agree with you

but mostly just because of your username

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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also Wrong

I feel very confident when Sanchez is on the mound. Which one of our confidences is right?

I’ve always liked Sanchez. His stuff is fantastic. He just needs to build up his stamina because of what the Giants did to him the last several years. He finally showed he can stay healthy and he finally showed fairly consistent success. He’s already a solid number three starter (at best) but he can be even better if he increases his control at all.

Don’t read too much into these last few starts. He’s fatigued. He needs to be shut down soon.

Only 867 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Jul 31, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Breaking news

Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers, Jason Bay to the Red Sox, Andy LaRoche and 3 others to the Pirates…Ned Colleti is an idiot.

by AndOnTheDrums... on Jul 31, 2008 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

lmao

you gotta love him. Nobody can fuck them Dodgers over quite like Colleti can. That’s a dumb trade for everyone but the Pirates. The Pirates now have a decent farm system thanks to them. But maybe in a few years when Pedro Alvarez gets to the majors LaRoche might become available. We’ve fucked the Pirates over before…

by boonitez on Jul 31, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

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