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Give us your rumors, your ideas, your thoughts. There are going to be a lot of them flying around in the next couple of days. So far we have the Twins interested in Aurilia, Giants interested in Beltre, and groug interested in farts. Also, supposedly the Marlins offered Mike Jacobs for Molina straight up. Hopefully, there will actually be more action than us just sitting around, hitting refresh over and over on [perferred sports site].com (or turning on the Auto-reload feature if you're on Opera/Firefox). Have at it!

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What kind of spam are you posting around here Natto?

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How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!

by WalrusMan on Jul 30, 2008 1:28 PM PDT   0 recs

Really

Seriously lacking in references to Zito’s uni number.

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 2:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Baggarly sez:
When I talked to Brian Sabean yesterday, he said he wasn’t sitting on any fair-value offers for his relievers, nor were any teams still trying to pry away Matt Cain or Tim Lincecum. He did seem a bit cagey when I asked if he was optimistic of getting something done. "There could be something," he said.

Vaguely interesting?

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 1:29 PM PDT   0 recs

I believe we should trade our roster for a better roster.

by chilibean_3 on Jul 30, 2008 1:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Why stop there. I think we should trade our GM for a better GM.

Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 30, 2008 1:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yanks just acquired Pudge, no word on who else is involved in the trade.

Didn’t see that one coming.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jul 30, 2008 1:31 PM PDT   0 recs

Whoa

Jose not gamer enough for them?

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by Natto on Jul 30, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, just saw it was Professor Farns, interesting. Nice pick for the Yankees if Pudge turns down arbitration, he should net them some draft picks. But he could also accept.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jul 30, 2008 1:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Man, the Dugout used to be so good.

pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth: they tolt me not to drive my fort explorer onto the field but i did it anywayz, cause thats how i’m rollt
Cat Osterman

Gato: yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. You just kept throwing your hands up and dancing around the car, even when you gave up six walks and four doubles. What were you doing?

pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth: ghost riden the WHIP

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jul 30, 2008 1:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

GHOST DAD THE WHIP

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 1:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

obscure rap reference

by Giant Voodoo on Jul 30, 2008 3:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good News Everybody….

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 2:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

risky business offering Pudge arbitration. I’m guessing they think Posada will be back next year, but in any case, he helps them this year.

I guess that means Inge is going back to catcher full time. Not sure that helps them in their pennant run.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 2:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not really

The talk is that Posada is done as catcher, that if he comes back in 2009, it will be at 1B.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess that means the Yanks won’t be exercising Giambi’s $22M option for 2009…probably a good move.

Posada is about to turn 37 and the Yanks are on the hook for $39.3M from 2009-2011 (during which season he’ll turn 40). He’s been relatively healthy during his career until this year, but he’s a lot less valuable as a 1b than as a catcher.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 3:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good news, everyone!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2008 1:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn you Howie! Damn my inability to read further on these damn things.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 2:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Should I pick up Farnsworth in my fantasy league?

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 30, 2008 2:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wow, that's interesting

a trade happening that I did not hear one single rumor about. Just one more reason all this time I waste following every rumor is kind of silly

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 30, 2008 1:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So are the Tigers throwing in the towel?

Quick, see if they’ll take Vizquel for Cabrera

by Hac Man on Jul 30, 2008 1:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Great, now lets send them Bengie.

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by sfgreg on Jul 30, 2008 1:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait, what? How does that make any sense at all for Detroit?

by Evan on Jul 30, 2008 1:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Win now.

Inge is probably a better hitter than Pudge, probably worse D. On the whole, a wash. They pick up a decent reliever in Farnsworth, with decent peripherals, to strengthen a shaky pen.

They don’t have prospects to trade, so they are basically trading away, besides Pudge, the 2 draft picks that Pudge could have brought them, to strengthen the roster for this season.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 30, 2008 2:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t think that’s a good move for them, their farm is pretty decimated after last offseason. They should be stocking up wherever possible.

It is true that Farnsworth’s ridiculous HR rate should improve in Comerica.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 2:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't believe that it is a good move either

Just stating what I believe is DD’s reasoning.

They probably believe that they are close enough to the WS and the Twins to make a run.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 30, 2008 3:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Inge a better hitter than Pudge?

Inge is hitting about 50 points above his career OPS, Rodriguez is hitting about 50 points below his, and their season numbers are almost identical.

Granted, Pudge is not likely to get better at his age, but realistically neither is Inge.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 2:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Here are their OPS+ last 5 years

from 2004-2008.

Inge: 109, 100, 98, 80, 101.

Pudge: 136, 94, 97, 85, 101.

I’m not sure why you’re using career averages, when Pudge is 36 years old. And Inge’s career numbers are dragged down by his first 3 years when he had had OPS+s of 24, 64, 64.

Their offense this year is the same. Pudge was better last year, the year before that they were about equal, and Inge was better the year before that year. Pudge was much better 5 years ago, but I don’t see how that has much relevance.

Given that Inge is 5 years younger than Pudge, I’m willing to bet on Inge being better for the remainder of the season.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 30, 2008 3:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My final word on the subject:

The last team that had Brandon Inge as their starting catcher lost 119 games.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 4:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Also

The last team that had Barry Bonds as their starting leftfielder lost 91 games.

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by Lyle on Jul 31, 2008 7:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What?

In what universe is Inge a better hitter than Pudge? And what do you mean “probably” worse D, he is most definitely worse D, in fact, he hates playing catcher, that’s why they were looking to move him in spring training and why people here speculated about whether or not to get him or not in trade. He’s been basically a Pedro Feliz clone at 3B, both offensively and defensively, that tells you enough about how that works for the Tigers.

Didn’t Farnsworth used to be with the Tigers?

I don’t think Pudge would yield two draft picks, as some suggest, because he’s not good enough now for a team to sign him before the deadline, and not good enough for the Yankees to offer him arbitration, he could get an arm and leg there (he got $13M this season and thus could get more in arbitration). However, I can see them signing him to a still princely sum (say $10M per) for multiple years (he’s 36, so maybe 3 years with option) which should keep him happy.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's not a Feliz clone at 3b

he’s a pretty significantly better hitter than Feliz, Feliz has the better D. Last 5 years, except for one year in 2007, he has consistently been around a 100 OPS+ offensive player. Feliz is around 85.

And if you bother to look at how Inge has been used by the Tigers this year, he’s already been playing some catcher.

Yes, he hates playing catcher. He also hates not playing at all even more.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Me neither

I thought the Yankees needed pitching. Could there be a worse GM than Sabean? I say yes.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 2:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What the heck? This is a great trade for the Yankees. They get a big upgrade at catcher, all they have to give up is a pretty mediocre reliever and they possibly get two draft picks out of it at the end of the year.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 2:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You make a good point regarding Pudge being a Type A Free Agent. Yankees do have a decent bullpen help besides Farnsworth. I would rescind my statement but they are the fucking Yankees, so to hell with them. Call me Stubborn.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 3:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think he's stupid because of that trade

I think he’s stupid because he overvalues his prospects. If he had traded just some of them the Yankees could have been at the top of the division by now. They would be signifigantly less screwed in their rotation if Cashman had just given up ONE of Hughes, Chamberlain, or Ian Kennedy. That could’ve landed them Sabathia or Santana.

by boonitez on Jul 30, 2008 3:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Uhh, you guys are aware that the Yankees

current starting catcher before the trade is Jose Molina, no? And that they were one injury to Molina away from having Chad Moeller as their starting catcher?

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 30, 2008 2:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, and the Red Sox are one injury to Dustin Pedroia away from having Alex Cora being their second baseman. You usually don’t get that much production out of catcher, so I don’t see the big deal. Then again, the veteran savyness that comes with Pudge might put them over the top if baseball playoffs weren’t such a freakin crapshoot.

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by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 30, 2008 3:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The problem with your analogy

Jose Molina is basically Alex Cora. So the Yankees already have “Alex Cora” starting.

Veteran savvyness of Pudge? Here are Jose Molina’s OPS+, last 5 years: 76, 70, 65, 61, 58.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So wait...

...the Tigers are now contending for the playoffs with Brandon Inge as their first-string catcher?

Or else, they’re two games over .500 and they’re throwing in the towel?

Very confusing.

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2008 2:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Natto

Where did you hear the Mike Jacobs rumor? I would think hard about that one if I were Sabean.

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 30, 2008 1:34 PM PDT   0 recs

Here is a mention of the rumor:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/giants-like-adr.html

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by sfgreg on Jul 30, 2008 1:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 1:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why Not

a young power hitting corner infielder. Sure his BA and OBP are ridiculously low, but a legitimate power threat (more than double the amount of HR any other Giant has) for a short term fix (which is what Bengie is).
Obviously it is not a slam dunk (it rarely is) and it I don’t know if even I would make the trade, but it is something to think about.

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 30, 2008 1:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He’s the worst first baseman in the NL this year when you take offense and defense into account.

DNW.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 1:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Couldnt be worse

Than what we have seen from Bowker the past 2 weeks.

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 30, 2008 1:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Doesn’t mean he’s a player we should be pursuing.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 1:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Bowker may get better
Jacobs probably will not.
Bowker is cheaper.
QED

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jul 30, 2008 1:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

caveat emptor

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jul 30, 2008 3:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

caveat lector, actually

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jul 30, 2008 3:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And we all know that making decisions based off of a two week sample size is a good idea.

Horrible OBP and fielding make him a very easy no.

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by marcello on Jul 30, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

took us about 5 minutes to blow our noses on it

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jul 30, 2008 1:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

From, like, every other trade Fanpost.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
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by Natto on Jul 30, 2008 1:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, 22 homeruns sounds tempting until you realize that’s coming along with a .291 OBP so far this year. I’ll pass. Beltre might be a decent upgrade at third, though, if he could be had reasonably cheaply.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 30, 2008 2:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Some rumors:

The Angels may be interested in Mark Teixeira
The Brewers have interest in Ray Durham
Talks between the Brewers and Cleveland have broken down, it looks like Sabathia will be staying put
The Cubs and A’s are talking about a possible Rich Harden deal
The Dodgers are in hot pursuit of Casey Blake
The owners are assholes.

by positiveuphemism on Jul 30, 2008 1:42 PM PDT   0 recs

Hmm..

I’d maybe take a speedy CF type and a AAA swingman for Ray Durham.

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by WalrusMan on Jul 30, 2008 1:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’d heard that one about the owners, so no scoop here.

by toofruss on Jul 30, 2008 1:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ESPN reports Brett Favre might unretire!

It is the freakin’ Brett Favre network lately.

by out machine on Jul 30, 2008 1:50 PM PDT   0 recs

fuckin seriously

I got tired of it in the first week. It’s still the same like a month and a half later. I hate Brett Favre.

by boonitez on Jul 30, 2008 1:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

TITLETOWN

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 2:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Other than game broadcasts

I can barely watch anymore. Sometimes I can stand Baseball Tonight for a couple of segments. But the copy writing is so forced, smarmy and bad on Sportscenter I can’t watch for long.

by out machine on Jul 30, 2008 2:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

haha

I love how Bumblefuck, Georgia won that. ZOMG their highschool wins state a lot!

by boonitez on Jul 30, 2008 3:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

at least they weren’t busy telling us about who’s more “NOW” or Later or whenever as if that has anything to do with fucking sports.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 3:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

I also love how in that contest, Jeff Gordon was considered more ‘now’ than Barry Bonds. Even though the point of the contest was to see who got the most attention, good or bad, off the field as well as on/

by boonitez on Jul 30, 2008 4:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The funny thing is you can tell the SPortsCenter anchors are tired of Brett Favre.

by cheno on Jul 30, 2008 2:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Quiet, puny anchors. You must SUCK it UP to give the PEOPLE what they WANT.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2008 2:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ESPN's NFL coverage:

1) Favre News
2) 7 second video clips of Adam Pacman Jones running around at Cowboys camp

*rinse and repeat

Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Jul 30, 2008 2:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Some more rumors:

Britney Spears is suffering from depression
Miley Cyrus wants to end her Disney show
Lindsey Lohan is a lesbian

by Hac Man on Jul 30, 2008 1:50 PM PDT   0 recs </