Sabean interested in Beltre?

Meh, I say. He's too old and had one flukey season with the Dodgers. Let's wait for better options, says I.

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PLEASE GOD NO

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 10:42 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

better than Castillo, but costs a lot more. I’d rather spend that money on signing our draft picks.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2008 10:42 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

This would’ve been fine a couple years ago.

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by Natto on Jul 30, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

MAN, our front office is stoopid.

adrien beltre. that’s a good one.

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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 30, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

consider the source

Schulman via MLB Trade Rumors. It’s like a game of retarded telephone

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

I wouldn't mind getting Beltre

needless to say I wouldn’t give up ANYTHING for him, I would take on the whole salary and only give up a non-prospect. The Giants have no 3B option for the forseeable future, even optimistic options like Ryan Rohlinger and Connor Gillaspie are a few years away so, like or not, they are going to spend some money on a 3B this winter. I’m not sure that committing $20 million or so to Beltre for this year and next (his contract runs through the end of next year) is any worse than signing Joe Crede or Casey Blake to a 3 year contract this winter.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 30, 2008 10:56 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

Beltre would be a pretty good target, if we don’t have to give up anything really good for him. He’s been about a 105-110 OPS+ bat the last three years and he plays good defense. And I think I’d much rather have him for a year and a half than Crede or Blake for three (like Flu said above)

Then again, stink of Dodger.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 11:10 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

too many Ks not enought BBs shitty average

why pay 20mil for Pedro II electric boogaloo. sure beltre has a little more pop. but not 15m-worth of pop.

3rd bass is a depressing situmatation.

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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 30, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

I give that situmatation the gas face.

Just like P.W. Botha!

by Grant on Jul 30, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply reply 1 recs

word to tha 3rd

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by delorean on Jul 30, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

He’s a much better player than Pedro.

2006-2008, Pedro OPS+’d 79, 81 and 86.
Over the same time span, Beltre’s done 105, 112, and 108,

Chris Dial this year has Beltre at +6.9 runs on offense and +7.8 runs on defense. (+14.6 total)
Pedro is -10.4 runs on offense and +8.1 runs on defense. (-1.9 total)

They are both good defensive third basemen from the DR but Beltre is a much, much better hitter (and there’s always the chance he has another crazy good walk year like he did in 2004.)

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Yeah, I would definitely take Beltre if the price was right (dumbest term ever? Yes.)

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by xanthan on Jul 30, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Just to be Captain Obvious here. ( Let me put on my mask!) Safeco is notoriously hard on RHB.

Yes I would be more fine with 1+years of Beltre then 2-3 years of Blake, Blalock or Crede. Short term he owns either of those 3. And he very likely return a draft pick is not resigned. The other 3 not so likely.

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by daveinexile on Jul 31, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

walks strikeouts and average 2005-2008

2005: 38, 108, .255
2006: 47, 118, .268
2007: 38, 104, .276

This looks only marginally better than Pedro. I think Beltre would frustrate many of us like pedro did. he does drive in runs, tho, you’re right.

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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 30, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

dur, this was supposed to be a reply.

and the title should be 2005-2007.

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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 30, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

If you grade a player’s offensive output solely on walks, strikeouts and batting average, I guess he looks only a bit better than Pedro. When you look at many other things, like OPS and so on, it becomes clear he’s much better offensively than Pedro.

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

i guess we can agree to disagree about whether the difference...

...is really worth 15mil of payroll. i guess i just think those resources could be better spent.

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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 30, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

just out of curiosity

how much time is going to have to pass before every single mention of a third baseman cease to elicit an immediate comparison to Pedro Feliz?

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 30, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

4,000 years

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by xanthan on Jul 30, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Once we get a 3B who's actually better than Pedro

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by jponry on Jul 30, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Pedro Feliz must be completely digested by the Sarlacc first.

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by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

109 years

by Giant Voodoo on Jul 30, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

I have an inside source that said we were discussing Beltre with Seattle a while back before Bavasi was fired. It involved Dave Roberts and Keiichi Yabu.

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by Anticon23 on Jul 30, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs