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Given our past relations with Florida, could there be trade possibilities here? Don't know enough about their minor league system, but you gotta believe Molina and a decent reliever could get us something decent in return for our troubles. Maybe a AA or decent Triple A bat?  Not clear that any other National League East team is in the market for what Florida is looking for, so the opportunity to drive up the price may not be there.

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Yabu!

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jul 3, 2008 9:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we do Yabu for McPherson. McPherson is the 3b we should have signed in the offseason. In AAA he is hitting .307/.421/.697 with 28 HR. He still strikes out a ton but I will take a SO as opposed to another GIDP from Castillo.

by malarky on Jul 3, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw Dallas play here in Albuquerque and he is fun to watch, much more enjoyable than Castillo has been.

by paboperfecto on Jul 3, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

McPherson is doing about as well as is humanly possible in AAA. I’d love to pick him up right now and give him half a season to earn next year’s starting job. In 360 ML AB’s, he’s got a 755 OPS, he’s healthy and 27. He should be starting somewhere right now. I nominate the team that is actually trotting Jose Castillo out there every day…

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by jasomack on Jul 3, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas McPherson

I saw McPherson play last month as well, and he really looked good. I’d definitely trade something for him, I’m just not sure what Florida would want.

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by Lyle on Jul 3, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Molina isn't going anywhere.

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by JRPhillips on Jul 3, 2008 9:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm worried that you are right

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by thehavenot on Jul 3, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do believe Sabean has said he’s not moving Molina. But regardless of whether or not he’s said it, I think we all know Sabes isn’t going to move him, come hell or high water.

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by JRPhillips on Jul 3, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We started Notgardo for a while

That wasn’t so bad.

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by lmaozedong on Jul 3, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to be very negative but how do we know those results were from the "organic" Notgardo or the "fortified" Notgardo?

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by daveinexile on Jul 3, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I don’t think he’s going to get traded either.

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by Natto on Jul 3, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Molina isn't going anywhere"...

...are you referring to trade prospects, or are you watching video of him running the bases?

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by EliminateMe on Jul 3, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know why it would have to be one or the other!

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by JRPhillips on Jul 3, 2008 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They do have McPherson, which would be nice.

by giants9107 on Jul 3, 2008 9:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/06/odds-and-ends-h.html

I know this is way far-fetched, but what about a package around Sanchez and Molina for Uggla? I doubt they would do it, but I can have my dreams/hallucinations.

by giants9107 on Jul 3, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, see the way these fantasy trades work is you dupe another team into giving up on its future for the sake of its present… sorta like what Sabean has been doing for years (until about midway through 2007… i’ll give credit where it’s due). duping a team into giving up its present for its present is much harder to do :p

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by Smoke on the Water on Jul 3, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't Tyler Walker

like Florida?

Castillo hits doubles.

by kennv on Jul 3, 2008 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd give them Sanchez, Yabu and Molina

for Maybin, Gaby Sanchez, Joe Nelson, and McPherson.

If that proved too much, I’d simply take Maybin, McPherson, Mobley and Nelson for that same package.

It’s unlikely the fish part with Maybin, but if they wanted Sanchez, that would be the sticking point

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by NeifiChicken on Jul 3, 2008 10:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybin just got traded for half of Miguel Cabrera

You would be lucky to get Maybin, alone, for all three of those guys.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 3, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not quite

The Marlins also got 2 other really good prospects in Andrew Miller and Mike Rabelo. And also the Tigers got D-Train.

by boonitez on Jul 3, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said "half of"

The other half being Andrew Miller…

Rabelo is hardly a “really good prospect.” He’s 28 and has a sub-.700 OPS. He’s a roster-filler backup catcher. Also, the Tigers gave away 3 pitchers (Trahern, De La Cruz and someone else) in the trade; I’m assuming those were for Willis.

In any event: Maybin is a top 10 prospect in all of baseball, and Neifi is suggesting that he be traded, with other players, for an overpaid, slow, aging catcher with a year and a half on his contract, an ancient reliever who signed a minor league deal this offseason, and a youngish #3 starter. If I’m the Marlins, I give that trade an “epic fail.”

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by PaulThomas on Jul 3, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and still weighs less….

by tyrannoman on Jul 3, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why

In the world would Florida part with Maybin for anything less than a superstar?

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by Anticon23 on Jul 3, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying they would

In fact, I believe I said “it is unlikely the fish part with Maybin” but that’s the only player worth trading Sanchez for.

In that same breath, let’s call the DET trade what it is: Maybin, Miller, and Rabelo were all traded to the Marlins for 2 years of Miguel Cabrera and 2 years of Dontrelle WIllis.

Miguel Cabrera is certainly miles above Jonathan Sanchez, but we are trading 4.5 years of Sanchez, 1.5 years of Molina, and .5 years of Yabu. Collectively, that total production might not match 2 years of Cabrera, but it certainly has a decent chance (especailly if Sanchez keeps improving). In the end, I don’t think Florida will trade Maybin, but this does provide great depth for the Fish and Sanchez might have more market value than we give him credit for

The other guys I mention in these trades (possibly with the exception of Sanchez, who I even said isn’t necessary) hold no major value at all conceivably. Nelson is a 34 year old journeyman, McPherson seemingly has no role with the Marlins, and Mobley is just a decent minor league closer who projects to be a decent reliever at best.

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by NeifiChicken on Jul 3, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Nelson

USF guy that throws the Vulcan splitter?

by Rusty the Robot on Jul 3, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just glancing over their affiliates, I don’t see much in the way of bats in the high minors. In AA they’ve got CF Cameron Maybin (but I don’t imagine they’re in a hurry to deal the centerpiece of the Cabrera/Willis trade) and 2B Chris Coghlan. Their AAA roster looks to be even more stacked with 30-somethings than the Grizzlies.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 3, 2008 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So are we back to trading Sanchez just to trade him?

Okay.

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by groug on Jul 3, 2008 11:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He has already failed

Too many people believe in him.

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by icanplaythird on Jul 3, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please trade Bengie Molina

PLEASE!!!. OK I know it won’t happen but ..

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by lmaozedong on Jul 3, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Alfonzo and yabu for Mcpeherson

Elizer Alfonzo is a serviceable catcher for a year and yabu could help in the short term so the Marlins who don’t really need mcpherson so they may be willing to give him up cheap

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by Black Raven on Jul 3, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Two Words: RANDY MESSENGER!

He will definitely bring something good back. Is he even still with the Grizz? You’d think I’d know, being from The ‘No’...

by Fresburg on Jul 3, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Marlins have slim pickings among positional prospects. I don’t see them as a good trading partner for SF.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 3, 2008 6:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: McPherson.

I don’t think that Sabean is going to trade for a player who he actively refused to sign in the offseason.

Just my thought.

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by howtheyscored on Jul 3, 2008 11:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Especially one who has proven to suck against ML pitching.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 4, 2008 4:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bengie Molina might be traded one day but it won’t be to the Marlins. He makes way too much money for their joke of a payroll, and the only way you get him there is to eat his contract. And why the hell would the Giants eat the contract of their cleanup hitter to trade him?? If the Giants ever look to trade him, (probably at next year’s deadline) they would expect the other team to pick up the freight.

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by rxmeister on Jul 4, 2008 7:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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