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OT: Manny on the outs in Boston

I just noticed in Buster Olney's blog that there's apparently been yet another incident of "Manny being Manny" with the Red Sox, and if Boston sports columnists are to be believed, he could be gone soon.

 

 

Star-divide

 

I should start by mentioning that there's obviously no way Ramirez fits the Giants plans, seeing as how he's 36 and all.  I should also mention that I, personally, doubt that Manny will be traded because Theo Epstein seems like a smart guy who should realize that dealing away one of the best right handed hitters in history is probably a bad move when you're in the middle of  a fairly tight pennant race.  Boston has a lot of very good hitters, but you can make the argument that Manny is the only one of them who's truly GREAT right this minute (or at least he can be when he wants to).  True, that might change when Big Papi returns, and JD Drew is playing lights out right now, but Ortiz isn't back yet and counting on Drew to maintain awesomeness has always been a bad bet in the past.  Long story short, Manny is a big part of what makes Boston's offense go, and I honestly doubt that they'll trade him.

But this wouldn't be a very fun fanpost if I stopped there.  So I got to thinking: IF they were to trade Manny, where would he go?  Well, it seems that we could assume a few things--

1) it would be to a team that wants to win now.  So no teams in rebuilding mode.  

2) You've got to have a big budget, because he's going to cost you $20 million.

3) The Sox probably wouldn't want to trade him to another contender in the AL.  They're going for it all this year and it would be pretty embarrassing to get the crap kicked out of you by a motivated Manny in the postseason.

4) The Sox would want something decent in return.  Something that says "We didn't give up one of the best hitters in the game for nothing.  See Manny didn't win, WE WON." Since they're fairly set at most positions right now and there wouldn't appear to be a 1-1 deal out there where they could find a corner OF to replace Manny right away, that probably means prospects/young players.

So why don't you do what I did.  Sit there, add those up, and how do you not come up with the Dodgers as a logical destination?  They need power. They've got youth to deal. They're in the NL, and they're trying to win a very weak West right now.  

Secret agent Ned, now is your time to shine. Kershaw and Kemp for Manny.  Do it. Do it now. LA still gets bounced in the postseason by one of the better teams in the Central/East, and they give up a pair of their best prospects for a few years of a declining, malcontent LF.  

Comment Starter: Do you think Ramirez will be traded and would the Dodgers be a fit?

Links to sources below (Olney's blog is Insider only so I didn't list it, but if you have an Insider account, I'm sure you know where to go):

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/07/26/now_hes_a_guaranteed_out/

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/view/2008_07_26_Latest_episode_means_it_s_time_to_get_rid_of_Manny_Ramirez_/srvc=sports&position=0

[/end mostly baseless speculation]

Also, it's my first fanpost.  it may well suck.  but at least it was 75 words :)

 

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Dodgers just traded for Casey Blake

Molina's gonna test his arm...

by Victorious Secret on Jul 26, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

so you’re saying you think they’re done?

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 26, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're going for it all THIS YEAR?

They do that every year. Or at least they fake it really well.

Arizona thinks we're Washington which thinks we're Arizona.

by victor frankenstein on Jul 26, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ortiz is back…

by kingofthacove on Jul 26, 2008 4:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

correct...

i should amend that to: “Ortiz hasn’t proved he’s back to his old self yet”

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 26, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manny has a no trade clause. You think he’s going to waive it because the Red Sox are mad at him?? I’m sure he couldn’t care less.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Jul 26, 2008 9:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

based on the columns i linked to, it sounds like the feeling is mutual. so no, i wouldn’t expect him to waive his no trade clause because boston’s mad at him, but rather because he’s mad at boston.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 26, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

they’ve talked about trading him a million times, and he’s talked about leaving a million times, but it never happens. The Red Sox aren’t going to trade him to another contender so he can haunt them in the offseason or beat them out of a post season spot, and he isn’t going to accept a trade to a non contender. The only possibility is an NL contender, and the Red Sox are going to ask for alot for him, at a time when teams are looking to add on and give up prospects. I would think the only team stupid enough to put together a huge trade for Manny Ramirez with just days left before the deadline would be the Dodgers.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Jul 27, 2008 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sorry…but who cares about Manny being Manny?

Besides, I’ve got me a Fox Saturday game to watch…it’s the Yanks and Red Sox going at it. I haven’t caught enough of either of these teams. They’re so exciting and it really is a shame that the fans of the other 28 teams don’t get as juiced as I do for watching the Yanks and Red Sox on every weekend! The cherry on top is that my favorite broadcaster is in the booth. I love that Joe Buck guy..he’s so good!

Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 26, 2008 10:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HOLY CRAP

Yanks vs Red Sox?! How come I haven’t heard about this??

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Jul 26, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure hope the ESPN game tomorrow is Yankees/Red Sox, cause I missed today’s game!

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.

by groug on Jul 26, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh boy! I hope Joe Morgan will be doing commentary. That man can paint a mental picture of baseball like no other.

Farewell, Ray. We'll miss your smile and your sugar. Welcome, Steve Hammond "Eggs". Throw strikes.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear

by Natto on Jul 26, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can probably paint a real picture the same way, too! He’s so amazing!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 26, 2008 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can paint real pictures with mental powers alone.

Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.

by S.F. Giangst on Jul 27, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's Phillips and Hershiser

not sure if it’s an improvement over Joe.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 27, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember when the Red Sox put him on waivers and nobody wanted him? That was funny.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 27, 2008 9:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

cough cough

feeling a bit clairvoyant at the moment.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 31, 2008 2:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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