How long until this happens??

by Hella Bay Area on Jul 23, 2008 4:40 PM PDT

Call me a dreamer, but I'm hoping that I can attend a game at AT&T Park and watch this lineup play.

C - Buster Posey

1B - Angel Villalona

2B - Nick Noonan

3B - Connar Gillaspie

SS - Emmanual Burriss

LF - Fred Lewis

CF - Aaron Rowand

RF - Nate Schierholtz

BENCH

3B/SS/2B - Kevin Frandsen

OF/1B - John Bowker

C/1B - Pablo Sandoval

OF - Wendell Fairley

Pitching Rotation

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Matt Cain

3. Jonathan Sanchez

4. Madison Bumgarner

5. Barry Zito (I was going to put alderson here, but its a given that Zito will be here until forever)

Bullpen

Sergio Romo

Geno Espinelli

Alex Hinshaw

Brian Wilson

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These are the new "Trade Zito" threads.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM PDT 0 recs

JOE CREDE!!!

by boonitez on Jul 23, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up 0 recs

Jose Castillo hits doubles.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

Trade Sanchez for him!

Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 24, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up 0 recs

screw getting an old heading downhill third base veteran, we’ll take Josh Fields please

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Jul 24, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

Where’s Scott Mclain? He deserves a look…

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.

by sfgreg on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM PDT 0 recs

mcclains been puttin up amazin numbas in AAA…wut bout ivan ochoa at 2b or antoan richardson/ben copeland in the OF

by Marea_Roja on Jul 23, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up 0 recs

BRET HARPER WTFBBQ

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

If that’s our OF by then I’m going to be really pissed off.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM PDT 0 recs

...then prepare to be really pissed off

by boonitez on Jul 23, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up 0 recs

No need. Schierholtz won’t be a starter here. I’d be surprised. Lewis and or Rowand would probably be traded by the time most of those kids are ready for the big leagues.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 23, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up 0 recs

NATE WILL BE BACK AT 3B BY THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Fairley odd parent to Wendell

by WTF on Jul 24, 2008 7:57 AM PDT up 0 recs

2012

assuming the team re-signs Cain before he hits free agency after 2011 (or the team doesn’t exercise his option after 2010)

AND

assuming Mad Bum progresses faster than Alderson, which I don’t think he will.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2008 4:52 PM PDT 0 recs

Deja vu much?

How does this thread differ materially from the one posted an hour before it?

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/7/23/577765/giants-future-rotation-and

These aren’t the new “trade Zito” threads… these are the new “Cain’s dispensible” and “Which vets should be traded this week” threads. Their differences run the whole spectrum from ivory to creme.

I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM PDT 0 recs

you could've just not put the link

and said look about an inch to the right of the thread.

by boonitez on Jul 23, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up 0 recs

Trade French Vanilla !!!

Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.

by S.F. Giangst on Jul 23, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

F#@K ecru!

And you know what else? MotherF#@K eggshell, too. That’s right, I said it. Eff eggshell.

I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 24, 2008 12:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

Never

Or right now, in your imagination.

by positiveuphemism on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM PDT 0 recs

one of the benefits of drafting Posey over Smoak

is that it makes these “let’s imagine our ideal homegrown roster is 2010/2011/2012” posts snazzier

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 23, 2008 5:08 PM PDT 0 recs

Not that impressed

Two of those players could be above average, but I really can’t see more than that. With that in mind, I think most of the rest of the players could be league average, which is very valuable, but I think we are going to need to trade some pitching for some offense at some point, or make a FA splash

www.wazzel.com (prove your sports knowledge if you can)

by NeifiChicken on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM PDT 0 recs

Better yet:

C: Buster Posey
1B: Pablo Sandoval
2B: Noonan
3B: Gillaspie
SS: Burriss, though I think a trade should fill the position
LF: Villalona
CF: Rowand, until Rafael “Orlandito” Rodríguez blossoms
RF: Kieschnick

Bench…
Fourth outfielder (many options): McBryde
Infielders (many options): Downs, Frandsen, Vélez, Holms

Starters:
Lincecum
Bumgarner
Cain
Sánchez
Zito, until he can be traded

Bullpen (many combinations possible):
Foppert
Hinshaw
Pichardo
English
Romo
Sosa

Closer:
Anderson

by klemente on Jul 23, 2008 5:19 PM PDT 0 recs

~~Foppert~~

The All-Father is now a Giant!

by EliminateMe on Jul 23, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

I like

this.

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 23, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up 0 recs

where is brian wilson?

by monta101 on Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM PDT 0 recs

evidently he is going to lose his job to a guy named Anderson. I can only assume the Anderson he refers to is the Cleveland Browns QB Derek Anderson who we will get to pull off a QB to closer conversion (known as a “reverse Chad Hutchinson”).

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 23, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

Brian Anderson-

Closer; Long Beach State. Been a great closer outside of Connecticut this year. Bad rash of luck and an increased BB% have made this a not so great year, but he should rebound.

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 23, 2008 7:33 PM PDT up 0 recs

Wilson?

Wrapped up nicely an dealt with others to:

Queens (for Fernando Martínez)
The Bronx (for Austin Jackson)
Milwaukie (for Angel Salomé)

Ishikawa would be a good choice for the bench, adding flexibility with Sandoval (primary first basemen and second catcher). Then use Witter or another offense-first catcher as a pinch hitter.

by klemente on Jul 23, 2008 5:39 PM PDT 0 recs

I don’t think one of those trades would fly.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Jul 23, 2008 6:31 PM PDT up 0 recs

Err, I is dum-dum. Ignore me.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Jul 23, 2008 6:31 PM PDT up 0 recs

yeah, the Giants will trade their all star closer for a prospect. By the way, alot of scouts think Martinez is overrated and Salome’s power surge was mostly caused by steroids.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Jul 23, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

Doesn't matter

The mets would lol so much at a 1-1 offer of Fmart for Wilson

Can't get enough of the Oakland A's? Visit Oaktown Awesomer's

by iamawesomer on Jul 23, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

No Foppert?

Remember a pitcher named Nathan? Took him some time to come back.

Batting order:

1) Burriss
2) Noonan
3) Posey
4) Sandoval
5) Villalona
6) Kieschnick
7) Rowand
8) Gillaspie

by klemente on Jul 23, 2008 5:49 PM PDT 0 recs

use

the reply button.

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 23, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up 0 recs

duty calls

I felt destroying interesting topics of conversation were a strength of mine, but I see this is no time for my antics, unless of course you are all in the mood for pointless dribble

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 6:12 PM PDT 0 recs

good time for a jay?

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 6:18 PM PDT 0 recs

better time for some vajay jay

by wilriv21 on Jul 23, 2008 6:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

always, is a good time for that

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

Not 3:47 p.m.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

THREAD HIJACK!

Hellboy II or the Dark Knight? Personally I liked Hellboy II better

Ironically Hellboy was a more human character and easily relatable character than Bruce Wayne/Batman who seemed a tad too inaccessible for my tastes. Heath Ledger was amazing as the Joker, but 180 minutes is a bit on the long side.

Giants Cove: You'll be a better person for reading

by Chulk on Jul 23, 2008 6:22 PM PDT 0 recs

we’ve already had a Dark Knight thread. I enjoyed Hellboy II but it doesn’t belong in the same stratosphere as Batman. It’s like comparing Marvin Benard to Barry Bonds.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Jul 23, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up 0 recs

“180 minutes is a bit on the long side.”

Agreed. That’s why I’m glad THE DARK KNIGHT was only 150.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Jul 23, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up 0 recs

Disagree

ZHIVAGO FTW!

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 23, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Boondock Saints gives us vigilante lushes a good name

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

you

what now?

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 23, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up 0 recs

that unwelcome huh?

Littered campgrounds, folding chairs. Feed Doritos to the bears.

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up 0 recs

SloIsLonelyForTheOrange has proven to me that I’m truly that unwelcome to the McCoven, so I will spare all of you from this point on. I tried to havesome fun the other day, and although I thought that was the point. I am no longer accepted so SloIsLonelyForTheOrange you can kiss my black ass.

Littered campgrounds, folding chairs. Feed Doritos to the bears.

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up 0 recs

GODDAMN RIGHT, HAVESOME

Littered campgrounds, folding chairs. Feed Doritos to the bears.

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up 0 recs

no

no nono. you misunderstand! I just have no idea what the reference means because apparently I’m an uncultured idiot.

Zhivago . . . Boondock Saints/vigilante justice. I just don’t get the connection. care to explain?

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 23, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up 0 recs

Neither do I. Boondock Saints is violent and funny and has hot Irish twin brothers picking off bad guys and a kickass soundtrack. Isn’t Dr. Zhivago a romance story?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 24, 2008 7:19 AM PDT up 0 recs

it's

an epic about the history of russia. Starring Omar Sharif, Julie Chirstie, Alec Guiness and Tom Courtenay.

It’s awesome. but yeah i really don’t get the connection. I didn’t mean to offend the guy.

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 24, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up 0 recs

It’s 197 minutes long

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Jul 24, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

not a minute

too long.

that and Lawrence of Arabia are the two extremely long movies that I can put up with.

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 24, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

Hoop Dreams was awesome, and came with an intermission break in the middle!

I have set Dave Roberts free; if he comes back, it was meant to be.

by hometownboy on Jul 23, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up 0 recs

Is Ray Allen in that?

Littered campgrounds, folding chairs. Feed Doritos to the bears.

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up 0 recs

ray allen is in he got game

Rafael Rodriguez: Felipe loves him almost as much as Jim Brower

by BrianBokake on Jul 23, 2008 9:27 PM PDT up 0 recs

great name man, much respect

Littered campgrounds, folding chairs. Feed Doritos to the bears.

by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 23, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up 0 recs

much the likewise

Rafael Rodriguez: Felipe loves him almost as much as Jim Brower

by BrianBokake on Jul 24, 2008 2:07 AM PDT up 0 recs

GET A ROOM!

...and some weed…

haha.

Fairley odd parent to Wendell

by WTF on Jul 24, 2008 8:01 AM PDT up 0 recs

Agreed.

GHANDI was 3+ hours and had an intermission, too. MALCOM X, too. And RAGTIME. And many other great movies. The point wasn’t that any movie shouldn’t be 3 hours, just that THE DARK KNIGHT shouldn’t have been—and wasn’t.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Jul 23, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ugh. Really, Josh? Ghandi? How’s about we substitute MY FAIR LADY there in your post and calls it even?

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Jul 24, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up 0 recs

I listed those three movies because they’re the only ones I can remember seeing in the theater which had intermissions, not because they’re my favorites (although MALCOLM X definitely is).

By the way, MY FAIR LADY < 3 hours. It’s 170 minutes, as is HEAT, SCARFACE, and THE GODFATHER. Therefore, they didn’t meet the stated criteria.

How about we go with GODFATHER II instead? It’s 200 minutes, and if anybody doesn’t like it, I’m more than willing to come to your house and beat some sense into you.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Jul 24, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up 0 recs

It's a deal

I didn’t think MFL was quite that long, but about 12-15 years ago I saw it at the Uptown in DC and they did indeed let us out at the appropriate time for the intermission. I guess in MFL’s case that was more a carry over from the stage version than it was necessitated by the length of the movie.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Jul 24, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up 0 recs

Somehow I hadn’t seen The Godfather up until a week ago (I got this as a present). I watched part I last Thursday and part II the day after. Part II = best movie ever.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jul 24, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up 0 recs

It’s another one of the “movies that howtheyscored has blasphemously never seen.”

I think it goes right beneath “Indiana Jones and the (all of them)” on the blasphemeter.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 24, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

Herbie doesn't like to make toys?!

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Jul 25, 2008 8:01 AM PDT up 0 recs

I’ve never seen Indiana Jones either. Or Pulp Fiction.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jul 25, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

I dunno, but the kids didn’t do anything today! Go old guys… lol=)

If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)

by GiNgiNxbOi on Jul 23, 2008 10:40 PM PDT 0 recs

2010 or 2011

I think it would be reasonable that barring trades, the suggested roster could be in place or very close to it by 2010 or 2011, assuming the players reach or approach their potentials.

Heck, who thought that Manny Burriss, John Bowker, Steve Holm, Ivan Ochoa and Brian Bocock would make it up this season, let alone all the pitchers?

by sharksrog on Jul 23, 2008 10:46 PM PDT 0 recs

2011 or 2012

Don’t forget, that team will be very cheap on the payroll side, with all the home grown talent. They could afford to sign a high priced RF like a Josh Hamilton or Carl Crawford, or the next Vladimir Guerrero/Carlos Beltran. If everyone develops, that could be a World Series team!

C: Posey/Sandoval
1B: Villalona/Sandoval/Bowker
2B: Noonan/Frandsen
SS: Burriss/Frandsen
3B: Gillaspie/Free Agent Bat
LF: Lewis/Bowker
CF: Rowand
RF: Top Free Agent/Schierholtz

SP: Lincecum, Sanchez, Cain, MadBum, Zito
RP: Wilson, Alderson, Valdez, Hinshaw, Sosa, Espinelli, Romo

That would be my favorite team ever!

by joebirdie3 on Jul 23, 2008 11:20 PM PDT 0 recs

You are counting

on a lot of prospect-related things to go right. We would be the luckiest system in history.

BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 24, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up 0 recs

Juding from the history of baseball rosters

in the 30+ years of the FA era, cross-checked with the rate at which we’ve developed position players over that same 30 years, “never” seems to me to be a very likely answer. However, just going by the presence of Wendell Fairly in your scenario, no fewer than 6 years from now could also be acceptable.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Jul 24, 2008 12:00 PM PDT 0 recs

whatever to all you glass is half empty people - I like the way that looks

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Jul 24, 2008 12:10 PM PDT 0 recs

But you like it based on what?

Half the suggested starting lineup (plus some of the pitchers and bench) has 0 or less than a full season of professional play on which to base any future production value. Burriss is still under two years and most of that two years suggests he has a very difficult time making hard contact against RHP. Aside from the sheer unlikeliness of having an entire roster of players come out of one (not terribly stacked organization) over the course of two or three years, what practical argument suggests to you that this scenario is both 1) likely and 2) likely to be successful, other than the fact that fantasies and opiates are quite enjoyable in the short-term.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Jul 24, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up 0 recs