What would you say if I were...
to tell you I know of a 26 year old minor league left handed hitting 1B (who can play the OF), who is on pace to hit over 20 HR's for 3 out of the last 4 years? What would you say if you knew he was at AAA Fresno, and hitting .304? What would you say if I told you he was the son of a former MLB Player? I give you the prospect in question...BRETT HARPER!
Now who does BH gotta dry hump to get a call up?
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Is Harper a distant cousin of Scott McClain? I feel they share more similarities than just playing together.
it's always noonan somewhere
by sectionop92 on Jul 21, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
he's got a .350 OBP which you'd think combined with high HR totals
would me he’d have a shot at a spot on the roster.
Down in Front Meat!
oops
Would mean he’d have a shot at a roster spot
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Jul 21, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Crushing your dreams, one STATS post a time....
Actually, his MLE’s looked better than I expected, but they still aren’t that great for a 1B. Bowker is a much better option.
Harper’s MLEs
.292/.311/.463
90 games, 257 AB’s, 29 R, 75 H, 20 2B, 0 3B, 8 HR, 31 RBI, 7 BB, 45 K, 1 HBP, 0 SB, 1 CS, 0 SH, 2 SF
Holy crap, 20 points of isolated OBP is TERRIBLE. He’d have to be just about a .300 hitter just to kind of have reasonable value.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 21, 2008 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
His career
is like 56 points? not TOO bad really..
I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..
Ah yeah, it slipped my mind somehow that we weren’t talking about his career. 56 points is a much better number.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 21, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Having seen him in the Eastern League, Brett Harper is almost completely incapable of playing any defensive position other than a weak 1B.
This year’s numbers make it look like he’s terrible against lefties, but his career splits don’t look all bad. Purely for a bat off the bench, he might be an option, but his best fit is probably as a DH.
Hasn’t he played 3rd in Fresno this year?
formerly April3rdLifeBegins
by YaSquare on Jul 21, 2008 6:08 PM PDT reply actions
Not sure but I heard Nate used to play some 3B.
Proud father of Eric Surcamp! I sure hope we sign him.
grr
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
I just really hope he doesn’t take steroids anymore, high school is one thing, but Brett better have his shit in order to become a major leaguer.
I’m gonna say that we all get down in HS, hope that stopped
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I never got down in HS. Nobody would get down with me then.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU HAVE NO PROOF! YOU CAN’T PROVE I DON’T GET DOWN ON A REGULAR BASIS NOW, WITH PEOPLE NO LESS! WILD SPECULATION! THAT’S WHAT YOU PANDER!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 21, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Take it easy on my son. I was a late bloomer myself.
Adoptive father of howtheyscored. The beatings will begin momentarily.
Y'all will note
that his name isn’t “How I scored”
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 23, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
howtheyscored doesn’t score and tell. But he does watch others score, and then he talks about that.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
perv
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 24, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
We did? Oh right, I saw my parents get completely fucked up and do terrible things when high. Right. That’s why I didn’t, and don’t know.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
okay
for those of us whose parents scrapped the lifestyle prior to our understanding, still doesn’t exempt us from our genealogy, regardless of lessons learned
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m also in the never category. I scored all my cool points by being in the Academic Decathlon, the Gay-Straight Alliance, and the Creative Writing Club. Not enough time left to use steroids or smoke pot with minor league ballplayers.
surprisingly enough, educated people have/can use drugs without becoming bums in the gutter pal
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Well...yes?
We need another word like “sarchasm,” only that indicates you’re making self-depreciating jokes about your own lack of coolness. “Dorkchasm” or something.
was there a point made that I’m missing?
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone who uses drugs and doesn’t come to the conclusion that they are a foolish indulgence has missed the lesson they most need to learn.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 21, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
who fucking said I still use drugs, not to mention we are talking about marijuana (the mother of all evil)
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
and the deadline to stop smoking weed by A, AA, AAA ballplayers is February, just in case you were thinking of indulging
I’ve smoked with many members of the AZ fall league, and I’ll leave it at that
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll clarify, many meaning only 5, but those 5 all admitted in the offseason, you got about 3 to 3 1/2 months of ‘party time’
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Hamilton traded to the Giants for Mike Benjamin’s streak
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh hey I have MANY dollars in my wallet. And by many I mean five. But clearly this means I am rich.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Who said I was Simpson Samson, last I checked many indicated more than 3
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
There has to be something in my stats lessons about confidence intervals or rejection regions that can prove that many is more than 3.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
This is only relevant due to the fact that if you are to become a major leaguer, STOP FUCKING USING ILLEGAL DRUGS
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, but
HOW IS THIS RELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION??!?
BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 21, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s it for me, I truly thought this issue would be cause for some concern for bringing a guy up, but obviously I’m wrong. Sorry to insult the McCoven with this insane rhetoric
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
haha sorry its just very confusing
nobody said anything about weed and your telling us how you smoke with AZ leaguers
to clerafie ferther, one of those guys was in our bullpen this year, roundin therd yet?
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry the weed comments are further down in the post, and I shall never reveal sources, as you guys would blame poor performances on the fact that a talented gentleman ruined his career by smoking with such an animal.
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ok cool
So I’ll just blame all of Billy Sadler’s bad pitching performances on smoking weed.
Even though HE probably doesn’t smoke?
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
You misspelled Clefarie.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 21, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s the son of Brian Harper who was a pretty decent outfielder, mostly for the Minnesota Twins.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
And who is now an employee of the Giants (roving instructor?)
by MILB Watcher on Jul 21, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Nitpicking the details
Brian Harper was actually a pretty crappy outfielder, compiling less than 400 AB’s in the majors for 5 different teams over the first 11 years of his pro career. However, that was all before 1988, when he came to the Twins organization and turned himself back into a catcher (the position where he’d been originally drafted) at their AAA affiliate, at the age of 28, and completely turned around his career.
He came up to the defending world champion Twins at midseason and almost immediately became their everyday catcher. Over the next 5 1/2 seasons, he’d start at catcher 120+ games every year (including their world champion team in 1991), never hit under. 294, and put up OPS+ of 113, 119, 106, 111, 108, and 107. He wasn’t the greatest defensive catcher, and he wasn’t an All-Star, but he could hit better than most catchers, so he found a way to be a solid contributing player for a competitive club. Come to think of it, maybe Brett should try on the chest protector.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Jul 21, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was on this in March.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 6:35 PM PDT reply actions
Rod Beck used to smoke herb in front of 92nd street cafe anytime you’d show up with a spleef. Who is the last MLB’er busted for weed? Kinda strange, huh?
Well the guy’s username sort of gives it away…
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, so this is getting ridiculous.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Took you this long, Howie? Maybe YOUR on the herb!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
My only point is if you are to become a major leaguer, stop using drugs. I mentioned the ballplayers to give you an idea that is going on still today, and if we find success in 2 or 3 years, and the guy gets popped for 50 games, maybe you’ll change your tune. There has been no advocacy for use on my part
by TheBigLeBowker on Jul 21, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
if you don’t stop using drugs, the homonyms will win! Then the red states will revolt!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
I don’t know of any amusing homonyms for people who violently reject technological advances.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The red states already ARE revolting.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
excellent point
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay okay I here you.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, I admit it! But I never garnished, I swear!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 21, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I, uh, think that…what?
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
All I am saying is:
A. I am absolute in the fact that Brett Harper has for at least 3 years taken steriods
B. That Giants fans should be tired of the circus involving this distraction
He used steroids?
Also, if you’re tired of the distraction wouldn’t you not bring it up?
Did I fall into the sarchasm?
I’m so very very confused.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS FANPOST I DON’T EVEN
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
+1
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
you don’t even no.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 22, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea but it was pretty damn funny.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
To understand this fanpost, I’m pretty sure you have to make like an Arizona Fall League player and get stoned with TheBigLeBowker.
I insist that this fanpost is proof that you don’t need to get high to laugh at stupid stuff.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely. I just recall when some stoner kiddies got pissy with me for saying I laughed my ass off at Harold and Kumar and Cheech and Chong movies, stone sober. They’re just flat out dumb funny movies. OMG I’m a terrible person for laughing at them! The audacity!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
'The Audacity of Dope'?
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 22, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
winner
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Suggested edit?
I insist that this fanpost is proof that you don’t need to get high to laugh at stupid stuff.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
damn-- that was supposed to reply to Baron, above.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Mayor of Self-Fulfililng Proclamations
The All-Father is now a Giant!
by EliminateMe on Jul 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Laughing out loud for real, not just saying that.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 22, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Good a place as any...OT
Figured this thread looked like a good enough candidate for an interruption regarding that Al Gallagher ticket we discussed prior to the season. If you still have it and want to part with it, shoot me an email: duits1954@gmail.com
Thanks and back to the thread…
"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
by sfgiantsflgators on Jul 22, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
being completely hung over after just turning 21.. the BigLeBowker has made this morning way better
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
Happy birthday! Next time, make sure to eat the entire time you’re getting hammered, and one glass of water for every drink. I follow that formula and I never get hangovers.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Correction:
and one glass ofwatercoors light for every drink
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 22, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
The water helps with the dehydration. Not sure that piss water beer can be much help for that.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I am going to go on record
As being a huge fan of Coors Light.
I also consider myself somewhat of a beer connoisseur, so don’t give me all that blah blah blah about how you love the bitter taste of hops.
My hands-down favorite beer is Spaten Optimator: but when it’s 100* out and I’m working outside, I don’t want to be slamming liquid bread.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 22, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I just don’t drink beer. :) When I do, I prefer Dos Equis…no, I actually have an OB with Korean BBQ. That or Sapporo but those are for sake bombs, and only to get F’d up. Otherwise I just sip hard liquor.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
all about caronas
with a wee bit of lime.. but for beer pong or other games i prefer the watered down cheap stuff like keyston light.
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
I don’t think I see the edit.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 22, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
That was kinda my point...
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 22, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
lawl
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 22, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
A: They're both fucking close to water.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
Now now…as an expert on the subject, another way to cure hangovers is to drink more! No, I’m not talking about the ol’ hair of the dog routine. I’m saying that if you build your tolerance wayyyyyyyyyy up there like a certain guy I know…you’ll never get hangovers. Of course you’ll be dropping some serious cash on a bar tab…but I’d much rather do that than feel like crap the day after.
Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.
by PacBellBoozer on Jul 23, 2008 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to be k/j, but I believe that elevated tolerance and decreased unwanted effects caused by heavy drinking (no hangovers) are actually potential symptoms for alcoholism.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2008 3:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Way to drive a stake through my heart, mister.
Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.
by PacBellBoozer on Jul 23, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I said potential. There are FAR more useful symptoms. I guess it’s kind of like the Relief Pitching ERA of symptoms.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
(Ironically, I am slightly hungover as I write this)
Tecate + High Life + Jeager + tuesday night = WTF was I thinking?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 23, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow that’s like a cocktail of piss water and barf.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, that sounds like the toilet I threw up in yesterday.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Pshaw...
You do your practice drinking at home on the cheap.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 23, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Small ppl like me need to watch it with the drinking a lot or we’ll wake up and see our livers next to us having a cup of coffee one morning.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions

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