Open Gameday Thread, 7/20
by Grant on Jul 20, 2008 9:30 AM PDT
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Milwaukee Brewers at San Francisco Giants, Jul 20, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
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ESPN reports that Durham is switching dugouts today
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3497321
doesnt say what we got, but hopefully something useful for next season. funny that he’s just switching unis for this afternoon’s game.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
also, the story mentions that Ray will not play today for the brewers.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t blame him for not playing. would you want to hit against timmy?
by jc2125 on Jul 20, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BrUcE:
Pleez play manne more, sincerely me.
by bondslegend on Jul 20, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants receive Steve Hammond and Darren Ford
Ford is an OF and Hammond a LHP
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you guys are really getting Hammond and Ford for a salary dump, it's a friggin' ripoff.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re really upset about losing a fast 22 year old who can’t hit high-A pitching? And a generic soft tossing lefty?
Is the Milwaukee system worse than ours? Becuase it seems like we’ve got a couple versions of Hammond.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its 4 times as strong as ours too
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
by Azmanz on Jul 20, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not upset
But it’s an overpay. Durham is bench talent for us and expensive bench talent at that. Hammond is a durable lefty 4th starter that is under team control for 6 years, something that is much, much more valuable than a couple hundred at-bats from Ray Durham. Ford is just an added roll of the dice; I’m not even taking him into account.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
considering your likely to lose both CC and Sheets via FA after this year, the Brewers probably could have used Hammond at the back of the rotation sometime in the near future.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm not super excited about our rotation next year
I took a look at what pieces the Brewers had left and how they should use them to perhaps bolster next year’s rotation here.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps, but it isn’t just a salary dump from the Brewers’ perspective. Rickie Weeks just isn’t getting it done, and Durham’s .385 OBP sure would help in chasing down the Cubs.
I would have been fine with Durham for Hammond; Ford is pretty useless.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Durham is also worse than Weeks defensively, by a significant margin
And, despite his lefty splits this year, he has righty splits over the much larger sample size of the years before that, so he’s not even a really great platoon option. It’s an overpay.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s always a chance that getting Ford out of Space Coast Stadium, which is death to right-handed hitters, gives him a jump start. He’s got the tools and had good success at West Virginia last year. He’s probably nothing, but he could turn into a decent fourth outfielder if he just gets a bit better; his defense really is elite. Put it this way, I certainly wouldn’t have minded holding onto him.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to know, but as soon as he gets to AA and Dodd Stadium, there goes any jump-start.
Well, the Giants will probably have a new AA affiliate by the time he gets there anyway.
Also, Durham is definitely worse than Weeks defensively, but that isn’t as much of a problem with the strikeout pitchers the Brewers have. You don’t need to platoon Durham at all. You can just leave him in there and have Weeks keep him rested. I assume that the Brewers are (for the most part) going to start Durham at 2B and bench Weeks, at least for this year.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the Brewers aren't acquiring Durham to supplant Weeks
He’s going to be used off the bench and as a backup plan if Weeks completely tanks.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a great use for him. Weeks has shown a propensity for slumps and injuries. Ray-ray is quite an upgrade over Craig Counsell’s bat.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I was happy with the deal when it was Ford for Durham. But Hammond (and Ford) for Durham is too much. Durham is just a tweak, and Melvin was JUST talking about not overpaying for tweaks. Oh well.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s odd, then. Weeks has been pretty bad, and Durham’s value is going to come from trotting out that OBP most every day.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but that's all Durham has to offer
Weeks caught fire from August on last year and was one of the best players in the league. He has a lot more potential, and the perception is that he needs to keep playing to reach it.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what i found on these two
Both are struggling at their levels, Ford as a 22-year old in high A and Hammond as a 26-year old recently promoted to AAA. Good news on Hammond is that his K/9 is high (over 10) and he’s getting unlucky in AAA (BABIP at .333). But he’s giving up a lot of HRs since he got promoted too – 6 in four starts, even though his command looks to be improving. Ford is just struggling: low AVG, low OPS, low SLG. The standout is his speed, already 48 SBS in 59 attempts. That about all I got from looking at their stats at BA.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hammond's been at AAA for four games and he's got a 20/5 K/BB
His ERA is meaningless at this point.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, it’s that homer rate that kind of bugs me even as his walks are down. i am excited that he seems to be missing bats and most of his struggles appear to be bad luck on balls in play.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was. We shall pour some sugar on the floor for our departed Ray.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though it would have been a good move, I’m kinda glad we didn’t trade the Special Agent. I have a sentimental attachment to him.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TIMMY DAY!
I really wish I wasn’t going to be in a car when this game’s on. Oh well.
by bondslegend on Jul 20, 2008 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorely tempted to hop on BART and go to the game, but I probably shouldn’t. My wife just left town for a couple of days (Salt Lake City for work, boo hiss), and managing a 2-year old who didn’t sleep well last night for 3 hours at the ballpark alone is probably not the best recipe for fun.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 10:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And I still haven’t seen Timmy pitch in person. Woe.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must be officially official
The trade was just announced on ESPN Radio’s Sportscenter
by Merope on Jul 20, 2008 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From ESPN
The Milwaukee Brewers have acquired second baseman Ray Durham from the Giants, continuing with their effort in the push to make the playoffs for the first time since 1982.
Durham, 36, is hitting .293 for the Giants, with an on-base percentage of .385, and in theory, he could help the Brewers as a utility player. But it is also very possible that he will press Rickie Weeks, the Brewers’ every-day second baseman to this point, for playing time.
Weeks is hitting .218 with eight homers, and Milwaukee ranks dead last among all teams in batting average for second baseman (.222).
ESPN.com’s Keith Law is reporting that the prospects going to San Francisco are Steve Hammond and Darren Ford. The seriousness of the Durham talks between the Giants and Brewers was reported by the San Francisco Chronicle on Saturday.
The Brewers are in San Francisco this weekend, but Durham is not expected to play for Milwaukee on Sunday.
Hum-baby!
by Danger on Jul 20, 2008 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray was a good Giant, I’m going to miss him. :(
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He was, but his time has come to depart. Yay for dumping veterans.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and it’s good to see them in the dumping veterans mindset.
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ray-Ray got a walk off double in the only game I went to last year. The man can still hit, I hope he personally ends the Cardinals’ playoff run.
Bye Ray.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Y’know, with Durham being traded, I was thinking – the Giants have had remarkable stability at second base over the years. Aside from injuries (especially at the end of Robby Thompson’s tenure), we’ve really only had three starting second basemen over the last 23 seasons:
Robby Thompson – 1986-1996
Jeff Kent 1997-2002
Ray Durham 2003-2008
We’d do well to find another second basemen who stick around as long or contributes as much as any of those three.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that's quite a lot of offense we've gotten from 2B
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wake up late to find Ray Ray traded and that it’s Timmy Day… greatest day of the season?
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Henry Schulman's blog
Reporting Burriss will start at 2nd today and Ochoa will play short. Also, Yabu is apparently going to the DL with a sprained finger (um…..) and Gino Espinelli has been called up.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on Jul 20, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If I may be Johnny Whine-a-lot for a moment
Great, they finally sit Vizquel AFTER Burriss is starting at another position anyway.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Molina posting Vizquel-like numbers lately, I’m tempted to say they should bring up Sandoval to replace him. Probably a bad idea, though. Especially since Sandoval would just rot on the bench as long as Bochy’s around.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
jeez, let the kid get in a half season of AA, Sabean.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I know, I know. I don’t seriously think they should. It’s just tempting, as good as he’s hitting and as bad as Molina’s hitting.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bye Ray From Across The Bay
:(
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on Jul 20, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Durham was not a "good" Giant
I’ll assess Ray as an okay Giant.
But in many ways he emobodied the decline of Brian Sabean’s acuity in signing free agents.
Expectations were high for this speedy former leadoff guy with some pop, and in nearly six years, he met them only once - 2006. And maybe he exceeded expectations this year because the bar was set so low - by Durham himself with an abysmal 2007.
In his early Giant career, he caused lineup card problems by missing a lot of games because of leg issues, but surprised all by morphing into a power/RBI guy for one weird but fruitful contract year. Now, except for the occasional double, he is nearly punchless while still being a bottom tier defender.
Bye Ray. We’ll hardly miss ya.
by Moggeee on Jul 20, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, no.
Durham was very good for the Giants ever year but 2007. He missed more time than we all would have liked, yes, but when he played, he was always quite good.
OPS+ as a Giant: 111, 117, 104, 127, 65, 112
The missed time hurt, but if you expected him to have better hitting numbers than those, you had too high of expectations to begin with (his OPS+ numbers before joining the Giants: 114, 105, 103, 106, 118).
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He met my expectations in everything but playing time until last year. He gave us a lot of offense for a 2B.
He’s been quite good this year.
We all know about the defense. No need to get into that, except to say that could be adequately simulated by dressing a mailbox in a Giants uniform and setting it next to second.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madam, yes.
He was paid handsomely and rarely lived up to the promise—and/or a full season.
Most people here give Ray a “B.” He certainly does not deserve an “A.”
My grade is “C.”
And I think he will be missed by few.
by Moggeee on Jul 20, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand giving him a C at all. He gave us well above average production at second base every year except for one. His OPS+ numbers as a Giant were better, in general, than they were as a White Sox.
The only blemish on his time as a Giant (other than his poor 2007) was the missed time. He was a good Giant, an extremely likable person and, considering what we have in the pipeline for second base for the near future, I think he and his above-average hitting production be missed a lot more than you do.
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Health is always part of the package
I agree he was very likeable.
That helped on the many days, especially when we were contenders, when you couldn’t find him.
;-)
by Moggeee on Jul 20, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why isn't the game on extra innings??
I can’t see it anywhere! Now I have to watch on my crappy laptop….Jesse angy Jesse smash!!
by jhiat00 on Jul 20, 2008 12:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So what can Sabean get for ......
- Aurilia
- Vizquel
- Roberts
- Rowand
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
imo, only aurilia and roberts are even tradeable. roberts is likely to yield a low-level prospect similar to Ford. nothing of quality. aurilia is trickier. he’s not worth too much more, but we might be able to get a player with a little more upside. maybe a struggling corner player who still has the potential, but hasn’t shown it yet. i don’t know, but it doesn’t seem like we’re going to get much for anyone but Winn and the bullpen guys.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Aurilia remains a Giant
And if he goes .260/12/50, Sabean even resigns him.
by Moggeee on Jul 20, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine with that. I love Richie and hope he retires a Giant. He can continue to be a semi-productive bench guy/ starter if necessary for another 2 years me thinks at 1B and 3B.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. So might as well stay with a known commodity at a low price instead of overpaying for some journeyman.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Randy Winn. He probably has more trade value than anyone else we’re likely to deal. Which isn’t saying much, but oh well.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first lineup in a post-Sugarman world
E Burriss 2B
J Castillo 3B
R Winn RF
B Molina C
A Rowand CF
R Aurilia 1B
E Velez LF
I Ochoa SS
T Lincecum P
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 20, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Castillo in the 2-hole. Again. :(
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by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHY VELEZ
WHY IS VELEZ NOT IN AA WHERE HE BELONGS?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems kinda wrong to have Velez in the OF while Schierholz is languishing in Fresno.
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by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schierholtz belongs in Fresno
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather see how he can do against ML pitching than see Velez do it.
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by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather see how both do against ML pitching. But Schierholtz = blocked on the roster. Velez isn’t, he luckily gives versatility to play multiple positions as well.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Versatility. The ability to be equally horrible at a number of positions.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Velez is probably a bench player, Schierholtz should get regular ABs.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Velez = nothing.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jul 20, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schierholtz is probably a bench player too. ML pitching will eat him alive if he gets regular ABs.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he has a better chance to be an MLB regular than Velez.
It will be interesting to see who makes it into the lineup next year between Schierholtz, Bowker and TI.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) Bowker
2) TI
86) Schierholtz
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TI = Ishikawa?
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
where does Pablito fit in?
Brother is 2-5 with a dinger today for AA and playing some 1b
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pablo is young, there is no need to rush him next year.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
All of those other guys are at the point that they need to prove they can hit MLB pitching next year.
I still think TI has the most upside of the three.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As do I. He is a plus defender, he has some patience, and he has some power potential. I think he could be similar to James Loney… .280 15 HR 80 RBI 50 BB, good D.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RF = Lewis?
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he wins it away from WInn and Schierholtz
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn’t Bowker win LF away from Fred, then?
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by satyricrash on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno. We’ve seen them play a lot of major league baseball and Bowker hasn’t come close to outhitting Lewis.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Bowker plays OF rather than 1b he is a solid bat
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not time to make a change,
Just relax, take it easy.
Youre still young, thats your fault,
Theres so much you have to know.
Find a girl, settle down,
If you want you can marry.
Look at me, I am old, but Im happy.
I was once like you are now, and I know that its not easy,
To be calm when youve found something going on.
But take your time, think a lot,
Why, think of everything youve got.
For you will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not.
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, can y’all fill me in on why folks are so down on Schierholtz? His minor league numbers look fine to me, though granted I’m not a stat-head. His stint in the big leagues last year wasn’t great, but it wasn’t disastrous enough to give up on the guy, either. I don’t see him as a star, but I don’t see why he can’t be a perfectly serviceable Major Leaguer. What am I missing?
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the scouts say he has a ridiculously long swing
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here are some quotes I pulled about him.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and a bad approach. not my words, got that from BA.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has two swings, one long and one short. The trouble is that he has little power with the short one, and with either swing he’s not very selective. THere’s not much reason to throw him a strike.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anything I think a lot of Giants fans are far too high on Schierholtz.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
100%
He doesn’t have much power, he doesn’t have much plate discipline, so what the hell is the point?
Re: his short swing, referenced by oldjacket: exactly. It is a clunky, weak contact swing.
Schierholtz, if he is LUCKY, will be Shea Hillenbrand.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
still, the guy should be given a chance to prove what he is.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he’ll get a chance next year. Haha Winn just made a play Schierholtz likely never makes.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winn defends that tricky RF better than anyone I’ve seen since we moved to AT&T.
I think people don’t properly appreciate Dwight becuase he’s pretty good at everything without being excellant at any one thing.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Winn myself. He’s a solid ballplayer.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His minor league power numbers and OBP look reasonable to me, but that’s probably just the effect of seeing such pathetic power numbers and OBP from our major leaguers recently.
But anyway, yeah, all this is good to know. I’ve sort of been reeducation myself on the minor leagues this year – I’ve been ignoring them the last several years. The franchise has given me a lot of reason to do so.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PCL numbers really should be taken with a grain of salt. The PCL made Pedro Feliz look like a future perennial All-Star.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I know. He had a career SLG of about .490 before he ever played in the PCL, though.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.490’s not all that impressive for the minors.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than Bowker or Lewis.
I’m not saying it’s great, I just don’t think, looking at stats alone, it’s unreasonable to think he could b a reasonable major leaguer.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well thats the thing you can’t just look at stats. He has some major holes in his game that I think will prevent him from being anything other than a platoon player.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't just look at stats
Which is why I’m asking y’all about it! I may be second-to-none in my knowledge of bad Giants players from the 80s and 90s, but many McCoven are far more minor league-savvy than I.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Todd Linden
Lance Niekro
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon Minor?
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's a what now?
jk
I don’t remember him setting the PCL aflame, but he seems like a prototypical Giant AAAA guy.
The dodgers and Angels have a lot of these guys too.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.290/.394/.537 in 2000
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
least powerful lineup ever?
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by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, you should have seen some of our lineups circa 2002-03
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seven runs! With a Jason Conti HR!
I am sure that the 2002 lineups without Sexson were pretty punchless.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think those lineups have a lot to do with the sympathy Giants fans have for Brewers fans. We see our future in your past. I think that Milwaukee is the second NL team for most of the Giants fans here.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny, Indians fans said the same thing
Maybe there’s this unseen groundswell of support for the Brewers across the nation. That would be cool.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im rooting for you guys. How can you not? No playoff appearance since 1982! Plus I hate the Cubs.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since I've been alive, man!
You don’t know how much that sucks.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the cards more than the cubs
I figure the wildcard will come out of the central this year. I don’t want to see St. Louis sneak another mediocre team into the playoffs.
Plus we’ve played St.Louis, Chicago and Milwaukee this year, and the Brewers seem like the best team.
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by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Milwaukee’s team, though I’m going to hate them until the game’s over, just so you know.
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, of course
When I went to school at Minnesota, I was surprised how easily I could flip on the hatred for them when they played the Badgers and then flip it off the next for Iowa or whomever.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My second NL used to be the Expos. They were just so pathetic it was hard not to like them.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is for me
i went to a game at Miller two years ago. good park and now they have a good team. also, all the drunk marquette kids on the bus were a riot.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, see how funny they are when you try to drive down Wisconsin Ave in the afternoon
They just wander randomly across the street like Lemmings. It’s got to be the closest you can get to Cairo without leaving the Midwest (insert Illinois joke here).
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can definitely see where you’re coming from. being a grad student dealing with undergrads is unbelievably lame. but they totally caught us by surprise (we were in town for the frozen four) on the bus and we had a great time at the game. less fun waiting in the cold to get the bus back to the hotel after the game.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone from California came to Milwaukee for hockey?
Where did you grow up?
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
grew up in Palo Alto but I went to BC for college. i was in band so went to everything for free.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
another BC alum/student?
That’s four of us.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m about to start my last year!
(Roger and SoFa King Mike are also alums, IIRC.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool cool. what dorm you in in the fall? man, i miss BC. grad school is lame.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m doing my second year in Edmonds (with that year abroad in between). It’s not the nicest dorm but I like the kitchen and the location.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i too was in Ed for two years. it’s pretty sweet, especially with band having practice in the stadium all the time. im sad theyre tearing it down. ah well. good luck with senior year.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like walking through the stadium on my way to class (especially when it’s raining or snowing.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, my girlfriend is a grad student
She hates her undergrads so much. It’s hilarious. It doesn’t help that fully half her TA evals are full of comments like “TA is hot.”
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been there. It’s a good park, but there is nothing there. Definitely driving in, driving out, but if you like tailgating, you’re set
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went there a few years ago and wasn’t terribly impressed. The roof was closed and there was a lightning storm, though – might’ve been better on a sunny day.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a little antiseptic when the roof is closed
Like a really boring cathedral. It’s a good park, but not a great park. Your park and PNC in Pittsburgh are great parks.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m spoiled by Phone company Park and Wrigley (I lived on the North Side of Chicago at the time I went to the Brewers game).
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
History is made
most banjo strings ever assembled in one arena
by Moggeee on Jul 20, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie
I am eating a celebratory pie in honor of the Durham trade.
I just hope it isn’t a premature pie.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 20, 2008 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lars!
Pass me a piece of pie, please.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, Niblet.
ala mode?
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 20, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TIM LINCECUM!
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i miss the Lincecum song. LINCECUM! i can’t find it anywhere online.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, is anyone having problems with this site loading today? I’m on a Mac and on Firefox—McCoven avatars aren’t loading, the MCC logo isn’t loading, and without multiple refreshes the fanposts and fanshots aren’t loading either. Similar problems when I switch to Safari. Just hangs up there. For the record, it’s probably not my internet connection, since other sites are loading fine.
Is it just me? It’s me, isn’t it?
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on Jul 20, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it hot in here or just me?
Some logos are not loading
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same for me (mac/firefox/no avatars)
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, im not getting any avatars either. didn’t notice the other things, but oh well. im also on FF.
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
same, but mac/safari
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s been sketchy today.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I'm on safari
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
On Mac with both Firefox and Safari not loading all content.
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on Jul 20, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
not auto-refresh. Was it Ray’s job to load images and auto refresh? Who’s in charge down there?
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on Jul 20, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes – Mac/Firefox. Only some avatars.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same for me with PC and Firefox (except that the comments are automatically loading)
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm on
mac/Firefox and i’ve got your problems
BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 20, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Tim’s hair is looking shaggier than usual today
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck you Castillo
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
CastilLOL. Sigh.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on Jul 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it too late
to add Castillo to the Durham deal?
by Moggeee on Jul 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fucking worthless tosser.
Without killing anyone
We've won it 3 times
by ChrisHero on Jul 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kuip scared me on that one
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How can a guy as humongous as Fielder play baseball? It just seems unwieldy to push that bulk around the bases.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How do 330 pd guys play football? Its because they’re exceptional athletes.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball does not require typical “athletic” ability. It requires excellent hand-eye coordination mostly and speed secondarily. Speed meaning, the ability to move parts of your body quickly, to throw or swing a bat.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 20, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously. But Prince is more than just a fat guy swinging a bat. He’s actually pretty athletic and has good speed, and moves pretty well for his size.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does move pretty well
Stopping is a problem though (as you no doubt remember from Todd Greene).
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Greene should have moved out of the way lol. Trains don’t stop on a dime.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if it makes him feel better that Prince was really out on the play
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was mostly a snarky comment.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if Prince goes on the market this winter I think the Giants should get him. Even if it means giving up 2 of our pitching studs. He’s one of the few LH bats that could still be very productive here.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we'd have to trade Molina first
otherwise we would be over the weight limit
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s got two more years before his arteries are clogged.
Without killing anyone
We've won it 3 times
by ChrisHero on Jul 20, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a vegan (or at least vegetarian). He may be fat, but his arteries are probably doing fine.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be hell on the joints, though.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's actually a non-unreasonable scenario
Cain is probably going to be one of the Brewers’ top targets this winter, along with maybe Greinke, and Fielder is certainly deal-able with Gamel coming up.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d prefer the Giants not trade Cain, even for Prince. But that’s just because I believe Cain can be that good. I’d rather give you some of our top pitching prospects. But obviously the Brewers will be looking for ML ready pitchers…
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
STFD PRINCE
whooo
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Burriss has been taking some tips from Aurilia, I see.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, K&K have been instructed to not talk about the deal.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
is it official yet? Like, what clubhouse is Ray chilling in right now?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's just in the tunnel, sitting on a chair by himself
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They aren't even talking about the rumor.
I find the whole thing strange
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers' interview gal mentioned it pre-game, said it wasn't a done deal
But, of course, it is. I’m sure Durham won’t play unless it goes like 18 innings, and he’ll fly out of town with the Brewers.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go away Amy.
Without killing anyone
We've won it 3 times
by ChrisHero on Jul 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling for Rothlinger
I know he could use some more time at AA but I’m tired of watching Castillo
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rohlinger.
He’ll probably get a shot in September with a chance to win a job in the spring.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow I always thought there was a T in his name, my miskate
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sound difficulties as soon as Amy G. comes on-screen. The baseball gods are with us.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was my fav. Amy G interview. Especially the beginning.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 20, 2008 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
mini-mini play
Buster Posey: “My name is Buster Posey.”
Amy G: “I’m yours!”
The end.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 20, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's good to know we aren't the only people that joke about our token female broadcaster that way
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question:
a) Sanchez > Parra
b) Sanchez < Parra
c) Sanchez = Parra
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends on which Sanchez is pitching that day.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taking injury concerns into consideration, Sanchez > Parra
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez has yet to pitch an entire season without getting hurt.
But still, Sanchez>Parra. Same control problems, more strikeouts.
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What injuries has he had?
Parra’s had repeated shoulder problems, which is pretty scary.
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s had oblique and elbow problems.
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taking stats and production into concern, Sanchez > Parra
by kingofthacove on Jul 20, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for being rude about it?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for the guy who has to try to market Giants/Nationals.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck this retard umpire
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Crap
2 blown strike 3 calls and it results in a homer.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 20, 2008 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
With a good showing today
Timmy will be the ERA leader
by positiveuphemism on Jul 20, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ballgame. Good night, now.
Without killing anyone
We've won it 3 times
by ChrisHero on Jul 20, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a massive hanger on 0-2. Urgh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
apparently nothing else is good enough to be a strike
by kingofthacove on Jul 20, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUCK YOU UMPIRE!!!!
So pissed I had to say it again.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 20, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Branyan hustling in for a double knowing that the Giants have a bunch of pie throwers in the OF
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rowand throws like an 8yo
Without killing anyone
We've won it 3 times
by ChrisHero on Jul 20, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was watching some 8yos throwing at a t-ball/coach pitch game yesterday. And you’re right.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 20, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it me
or does Rowand have dick for an arm?
by boonitez on Jul 20, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
his arm is awful, has he thrown a runner out all year?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, but he's helped some runners into doubles if that counts
by boonitez on Jul 20, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems like Giants outfielders allow a lot of hits to go for doubles that really shouldn’t
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
An extra indefinite article would make that much funnier
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you Rowand
for your penis-like excuse for an arm
by boonitez on Jul 20, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
timmy’s mad
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If the home plate ump gets leprosy
Tim is definitely not going to sure him.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 20, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Washington scored 14 runs today!?
Holy fuck.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WHY THE FUCK DO WE GIVE UP SO MANY HITS TO THE PITCHER
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
flair for the dramatic?
but Brian Wilson’s not in?
by boonitez on Jul 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow, I can't remember the last time all three games of a series featured offensive contributions from our pitcher
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s the magic of Giants pitching!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The magic of Orioles baseball!
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m done, take care everyone.
Without killing anyone
We've won it 3 times
by ChrisHero on Jul 20, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum is finally starting to drop back to about where his numbers should be. No more ridiculous ERA.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
of course, with a competent umpire and a CF who doesn’t have a shit arm, he doesn’t give up a run that inning.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except that curveball could have gone either way.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about? His ERA is higher than it should be due to bad umpiring. (well, 3 runs higher)
by positiveuphemism on Jul 20, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
STFD WEEKS
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How frustrating must it be to be a fan of a contending team and having Weeks bat lead off every game?
by cheno on Jul 20, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't really mind him, actually
At least, he’s not this gaping wound in my psyche like lots of other Brewers have been (Wes Helms, come on down!)
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a shitty shitty inning
Ump just put 2 more ER on Timmy’s ERA. Fucking douche.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 20, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
3-0 to Bengie
I predict he will not get on base.
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by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
omg he walked!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong wrong wrong wrong
you’re wrong
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep predictin!
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I predict there is NO WAY the Giants score 10 runs this inning.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Molina
4 HR in April, 2 in May, 0 in June and July.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Amazing how a 30-something catcher’s performance declines when he’s almost never given a day off.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cf. Jason Kendall
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by battlekow on Jul 20, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From this point on, they start taking away home runs.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie- spanish word for Fail
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn am I pissed off
Timmy is pitching really well, too. He’s just getting umped. He’s been ahead of almost every hitter. Strong curve and good velocity.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THERE’S NO WAY ROWAND GETS A HIT HERE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it was worth a try, but no
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dammit, Rowand.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
when can we trade the bum? SF must have a CF or two in the organization
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winn can move to CF, Schierholtz in RF. Holla!
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can't seem to hit much this year either...
he’s been miserable the past couple months…
by boonitez on Jul 20, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OPS splits
April: .850
May: .987
June: .618
July: .749
Clearly over his head in May and underperforming in June. Settling in on Not Bad, But Not Nearly Worth The Contract levels.
by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least he made parra throw a few pitches
by cornball on Jul 20, 2008 1:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
omg a hit
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how long will it take to get another?
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie still wouldn't score
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Jul 20, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hes on 2nd he can score if it goes to the 421 corner.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and as it turns out
anything besides back to back strikeouts would’ve done nicely there
by boonitez on Jul 20, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe SF could get more for Aurilia than Durham in a trade
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure about that.
Ray has the “potential pinch runner” going for him as well.
by joe t on Jul 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Ray is crying on the inside
lol Kuip “He could be battling the flu.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"He could be battling the flu flew."
by wilriv21 on Jul 20, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Kuiper “Ray Durham not in the lineup, could be battling the flu”
by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs