I’d rather have Mad-Bum and Alderson than Delmon Young. Young is looking a bit better now than he did at the beginning of the season but he still has a lot of drawbacks. He can’t really field, he doesn’t draw walks, supposedly has a bad attitude and the power outage is obviously a concern. He is still really young and has plenty of time to turn it around, but a trade like the one you outlined would scare me.

We should do what Beane and Co. do across the bay (Blanton notwithstanding) and wait until our players have max value and then trade from our area of surplus instead of selling low on them when they are still in A ball.

I like Young but so far in his early career he’s been a hacker that hasn’t shown the power potential that he’s supposed to have. Parmalee hasn’t taken off yet either. Remember when the Giants were rumored to be interested in him?

It’s a tough trade scenario, on one hand moving Winn is ideal but on the other hand Lewis + Bumgarner or Alderson is a decent package for stalled prospect and Delmon Young.

Anyone else starting to lose faith in Young? I liked the deal at the time but his plate discipline is pretty bad. He’s 4th in the majors among hitters with 250 PA’s in swinging outside of the strike zone. He makes below league average contact outside of the strike zone, so he’s not like Vlad.

I dunno, I reluctantly say no and I hope I’m not overvaluing our prospects, which fans of their teams always seem to do.

I am obliged to bring up A.J. Pierzynski.

We should totally NOT trade Sergio Romo and Alderson for Pierzynski.

wouldn’t the Twins just offer us up some tasty squidscraps, like some slick fielding AA SS for Winn, and be done with it?

The ‘07 Draft Thread warms the cockles of my heart.

Would the Twins take Winn and his $8.25 million contract for next year? I know it’s not a lot, but they recently signed long-term deals for Mauer and Morneau, so I’m wondering whether they’d add another bump to the payroll.

There has to be a way to screw another MLB team by trading them a retired player, a la Brett Favre.

Perhaps Kirk Reuter…or maybe we could fool someone into thinking that we have the rights to Bonds, thus making him appear more attractive then he is right now, lounging on his couch.

Any place that I can find the stat for veteran savvy?

is amazing. I love how over-the-top the reactions were.
I asked Jim Callis in his lighting round session of his most recent ESPN chat who he had higher Kershaw or Bumgarner just to be rediculous and he basically told me the question was crazy. It certainly was.
I would imagine that if Alderson and MadBum climb the orginizational ladder and perform as well as they have to date and Sosa does the same, it would be hard to find an orginization with pitching that can match those names and our three headed monster already in the show.
Moving forward, I think it is more likely that we would be able to get singificant value for any of them in 2009 or 2010 after the season is over. I would venture to guess that if he performs well and moves up to AA, Sosa would be the first pitcher traded from the group for anything of value.
I must say it is nice to know that our pitching depth which has been called into question recently may be coming back in the next couple of years.

if you make this trade, you dead dawg.

Don’t like the deal because I’m not big on Delmon. Don’t think he ever reaches his potential and follows a Milton Bradley path. Just my opinion and I could easily be wrong.

I’d be very wary of somebody who, 22 and 1st overall pick or not, isn’t outhitting John Bowker. I would not give up Bumgarner or Alderson for him.

If we’re going to target somebody who doesn’t walk, we might as well get somebody with actual power in Chris Davis :p Although, his home/away splits are worrying.

I might as well bring this up again. I have much more faith in the Giants to develop stud pitchers than I do in them getting middle of the order bats. This is why I don’t mind hearing the rumors which Grant referenced. The Giants need middle of the order hitters and the best way to do that is by trading their pitching to get it. I don’t think this will keep us walking in place. I feel the Giants can replace any pitchers they trade away much easier than they could get a middle of the order bat via some other route.

holds a special place in my heart simply because of his windup. Very reminiscent of Bobby Nen.

I was pretty obsessed with Mills back in Aught-Seven.

i had no idea that william faulkner was in to Rush.

I hope they signify more than nothing.

So pleased to see this post – I’ve been trying to get folks to comment on the outlandish Perrotto suggestion since it came out. All right, that was only yesterday. I’ll calm down.
The Twinkies did cross my mind, but mostly I’ve been trying to envision something that would score us a corner infielder, and I doubt that they are looking at giving us Morneau. Winn is a good fit for them, though, and the young outfielders are both hurting them in this year’s chase, and seemingly expendable long-term (see Ben Revere). I voted con, though, because I can’t give Lewis up in the deal. I don’t know much about Parmalee, but he’s out of Sickels’ pre-season top ten for them. Winn and Bumgarner for Young, maybe. Again, though, I’d rather go for a corner infielder. But who?
Well, I couldn’t come up with much. Chris Davis in Texas, perhaps, but that’s one of those rare prospect-for-prospect things. Plus, it sounds as though they are going to give him a shot right now. I like the idea of Howie Kendrick, but that ain’t happening with them in the race (On that note, though, would you give up MadBum or Aldy for the failed prospect Woods? What about Sosa? I’ve mainly only heard bad things about him lately, but it might be worth the risk for our club.
In the end, the only players that seemed realistic were established guys like Beltre or Dunn. The latter clearly only works if you get him to sign to an extension. Beltre is under contract for ‘09, and I love his defense. If you deal for him, and the Giants make little headway in the standings in the next year, then you can reverse course and deal him at next year’s deadline (a la Teixiera, perhaps). I know he’s 29, but he looks to have two or three of his best years still to come. Of course, the Twins want him too. Maybe there is a 3-way in the offing? (Uh, I guess that means we get Delmon Young again or something).

MORIBUND MANAGERS

Hmm, I guess whether that’s a good thing or not depends on which managers are feeling moribund.

I didn’t want to make a new thread but I was reading ESPN’s “if you’re hardcore” section for fantasy and saw:
“Arizona catcher Chris Snyder could be back behind the plate this weekend. Snyder fractured his testicle when he was hit by a foul ball earlier this month, but is reportedly almost 100 percent now.”

How did I not hear that someone FRACTURED A TESTICLE? I feel like I’d be out a lot more than a couple weeks if I did that.

Carlos Quentin did get traded for a minor league player, a first basemen. That kind of contradicts your first two points.

This is an interesting proposal, but, man, Young isn’t showing the statistical signs you’d like to see for a middle-of-the-order hitter. With normal development, he’d probably be around average for a corner outfielder in three years. He’s obviously got a lot more upside than that, but still …

I’m actually sorta-kinda more interested in Matt Holliday and Adrian Beltre. If the price is right, of course. Holliday is probably way too expensive, but Beltre might be undervalued.

A Milwaukee journalist is reporting that their GM Melvin would neither confirm nor deny a suggestion that he had inquired about Taschner and Durham. Non-event, perhaps, but maybe we’ll get Rickie Weeks!

Does anyone know of the existence of a video of Alderson pitching? Am curious to see him.