Second Half: Stronger or Weaker?
by giantfan5 on Jul 17, 2008 9:46 AM PDT
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"The second half is really where the strong teams start getting stronger and the weak teams start getting weaker," shortstop Omar Vizquel said. "Teams want to see their prospects, and the stronger teams get the best players from other teams and start separating. It will be interesting what the next move will be here."
-From Henry Schulman's article in the Chronicle.
Omar's been around a long time, and seen many different types of teams, and I think he makes a good (if slightly obvious) point here.
So which way do we think the Post-All-Star Game Giants are going to go?
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I hope weaker
Weaker means better draft position. I also want a weaker second half because trading away Durham and Winn will mean weaker. I realize I’m jumbling effect and cause, but I think you get what I’m saying.
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by delorean on Jul 17, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Weaker because it means that we’ve traded away veterans and are playing the younger dudes more.
by xanthan on Jul 17, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
I was actually secretly a little happy that we sucked heading into the AS break.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
by hairball on Jul 17, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, but...
I still get nervous when I see articles like this.
Let’s just say, hypothetically, we take two of three from Milwaukee. Then, we win 2 or 3 against the Nats. At that point, the last 6 games before the trade deadline would be against Arizona and the Dodgers, the two teams currently ahead of us in the division. I’m just scared that if we get lucky over the next week, we’ll be buyers at the deadline and this season will have gone from difficult, but encouraging, to travesty.
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Jul 17, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants haven’t had a winning homestand since a 6-3 showing last Aug. 21-29.
That’s pretty amazing. Even the worst of the worst teams usually don’t go 11 months between winning homestands.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on Jul 17, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s absurd. You would think they would luck into at least one.
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by marcello on Jul 17, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Omar! And tacos!
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jul 17, 2008 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Taco keeses for my Beeeen
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 17, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope weaker, too
Especially over the next 2 weeks. If we lose every game except for Timmy starts I’d take it. Hopefully this would quell any BUYBUYBUY stuff and stop the vets every day thing.
I want that #1.
Also, PLEASE RETIRE OMAR!!! Ugh. Talk about sticking around too long.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 17, 2008 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly...
I feel Sabean has been cured of the BUYBUYBUY mentality for the time being. I don’t really expect them to take that direction for a few years…i hope.
by giantfan5 on Jul 17, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
great. If Matt Cain and Jonathan Sanchez lose every start that will really make me feel great. Especially when Sabean sells low on them at the deadline or after the season.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
by rxmeister on Jul 18, 2008 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sick to F’ing death of this “hay Giants can win the division!” bullshit. Can it already. The team is shit, the NL West is shit, but that doesn’t mean the Giants will win anything.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll win the division
in 2011
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 17, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like 2011.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
after 109, 75, and 55
2011 is my favorite number
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by delorean on Jul 17, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2011
3rd best year!
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 17, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AT...
nah, can’t do it
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
by hairball on Jul 17, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...BEST!
No qualms , baby.
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 17, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
75
b/c of Zito?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 17, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously, 15 fucking games under .500. We’re not winning the division.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 17, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true, but…
We could possibly be out-lost by the rest of the division and losewin the division by default. It’s a losewin/winlose situation!
by positiveuphemism on Jul 17, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can the team then opt not to play in the playoffs and pass that dishonor onto the second best loser?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think so. I also think it would be viewed as a good thing if they made the playoffs, especially with a high draft pick.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 17, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I was being faceitous.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, but I was taking you seriously.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 17, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's this about Feces?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 17, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something about being feces ish?
by positiveuphemism on Jul 17, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NL West TempestTeapot
“Let’s not be feceshous”...
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 17, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the correct spelling is feceshits.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 17, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
I vote for world series win and 5th draft pick. Hey, it could happen.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
by hairball on Jul 17, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think so. I am pretty sure the WS winner/lower pick 30/29th. I could be mistaken.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 17, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how it works...
..or if people trade draft pick slots like they do in football…
but the Rockies in last years draft, drafted #25
26 d-backs
27 twins
28 wankees
29 injuns
30 sox
by Merope on Jul 17, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball teams can't trade draft picks
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by groug on Jul 17, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No trading picks in baseball
Had to mention it too…
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Jul 17, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're trading picks?
There’s no trading picks in baseball!
Only 878 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jul 17, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't want someone else's pick
What about lice?
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
by hairball on Jul 17, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t trade draft picks in baseball. Wait, I already went.
by Natto on Jul 17, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MY TURN
you can’t trade draft picks in baseball.
by tyrannoman on Jul 17, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t trade draft picks in baseball? Someone give me an answer!
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 17, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
109
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by groug on Jul 17, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Others might weigh in if they feel differently, but it's not possible to trade draft picks. In baseball, that is.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can anyone clear up my question?? I was wondering if you can trade draft picks. Thanks in advance.
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by rxmeister on Jul 18, 2008 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. But not in baseball. In baseball, no. But yes, you can. If you're GM'ing a non-baseball sport.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 18, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not without Sexson anyway!!!!!
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Jul 17, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that the main tone I have been hearing out of the Giants, though, is not so much “we can win the division” as “we can be better.”
Teams are kind of required by the media to say they can win the division, even if they suck massively, because saying something like “Winning the division isn’t really a realistic goal for us” reveals organizational weakness or something.
So far, I think Bochy has done a good job of trying to balance winning with giving the young guys an extended look. I know there will always be somebody who is upset over who is playing, and how much, but I think the Giants have been doing a good job so far…
by giantfan5 on Jul 17, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really see them as being much better than they are though. I mean, haven’t we all been shocked by how much they’re exceeding our expectations?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 17, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But I think that having a goal of improvement over making the playoffs is a much better strategy for this team at this point, and I kind of feel like they are taking that improvement tone much more than past years. May just be my perception though.
by giantfan5 on Jul 17, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmm spin.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
giving the young guys an extended look
This is the San Francisco Giants you’re talking about?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jul 17, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here are my thoughts on your "extended look" theory
Vi z quel, vizq-uel, v izquel? Vi, zq uel. Viz… quel vizquelvi zquel, viz? Quel!
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
by hairball on Jul 17, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saying something
saying something like "Winning the division isn’t really a realistic goal for us" reveals organizational weakness or something
And drives away a certain portion of fans who only want to see teams in competition. Sad but true. Unfortunately we need those extra few thousand to show up and help pay for Timmah’s long-term contract this winter.
Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com
by leftymalo on Jul 17, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Zito's contract today
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 17, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
by groug on Jul 17, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hovering at the same level of mediocrity
The Giants are at about the appropriate level of suck. The NL West is at the surprising suck level, making the WAY under .500 Giants “contenders”. They have the 5th worst record in the league right now. That’s where they’ve been at for a while now. I think they’ll stay about the same, but I figure Seattle, Colorado and San Diego could all improve. I don’t think the Giants can get weaker than the Nat’s. But the Giants will be drafting high in 2009.
My dream scenario is still for the Dodgers and Arizona to fall apart, allowing the Giants to win the NL West with a .450 winning percentage and a 7-8th spot draft pick. That’s just my little daydream, that lets me see Cain, Lincecum and Sanchez in the playoffs, and Zito with the surprising win over Santana. This daydream isn’t very linked to reality you may have noticed.
Castillo hits doubles.
by kennv on Jul 17, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The scenario is hilariously stupid. That said, it’ll happen. But in a short series facing Lincecum, Sanchez, and Cain, that is pretty dangerous.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could that trio win 11 of 19 games with our offense?
by positiveuphemism on Jul 17, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely. When those three have started games, that’s about the cumulative winning percentage of the team.
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Jul 17, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so is that like a Hooter sponsored event?
by Merope on Jul 17, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No , Pos , you got it right.
Just like the ‘07 D-Blanks – a Playoff of Bust.
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 17, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the Nats are the team to beat in the Strasberg race. But Seattle’s still batting Vidro cleanup, so clearly they have no intention of giving up without a fight.
by Evan on Jul 17, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and with a $117 million payroll, the Mariners’ FO have shown they’ll spend as much money as necessary to suck really hard.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on Jul 17, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jose Vidro, DH.
Miguel Cairo 1b.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on Jul 17, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle
Maybe Bedard turns his season around after he comes of the DL. And like the Giants, Seattle could get better by calling up the Farm (just ‘cause they’re vets are so much suck.) They could pick up 5 wins on the Giants.
Castillo hits doubles.
by kennv on Jul 17, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of counterintuitive
But I don’t think I’d mind seeing the Dodgers win the NL West with a .450 winning percentage.
Think about it… If the winner of the division plays below .500, that’s a team that will get mercilessly mocked by the national media and pretty much all sports fans. Particularly if they’re bounced in the first round (which I’d suspect the Dodgers WOULD be). Nobody will mention or care about who finished second or third, except as a footnote. But the division winner whose record is below .500… Well, that’s a team to be mocked. And I love the notion of all the world mocking the Dodgers.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Jul 17, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d rather the Giants were the laughing stock. i’ve got pretty thick skin at this point in my Giants fandom. besides in my daydream the Giants sweep the Cubs.
Castillo hits doubles.
by kennv on Jul 17, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
then they sweep the Phillies, then the Rays, then we have a nice little hodown on Market Street…hey daydreaming is fun!
by tyrannoman on Jul 17, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A ho down on Market Street?
Call the vice squad!
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 17, 2008 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be3sides , remember the earlier Az. series?
Our sweep is done.
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 17, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, let me change my vote to "stronger"
In my fantasy world, we trade Roberts, Aurilia, Durham and Winn. Maybe we cut Vizquel, or someone takes him for free.. Replacing Winn with Schierholtz gives us an offensive boost, while replacing Aurilia with Bowker full time is also an improvement, as Bowker continues to improve offensively and defensively. Ray Durham gets replaced by either Denker or Velez, who magically become league-average hitters and act as adequate, if slightly worse than Durham second basemen. Barry Zito goes nuts in the second half, like August last year except extended through the entire half. We end up dumping him on a poor ne’er-do-well organization named the Seattle Mariners.
We then go on to win the World Series in 2010 behind a rotation of Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Alderson, and some combination of Correia/Lowry/Tanner/Snyder/English/Maday (one of them’s gotta be a solid #5..)
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by lmaozedong on Jul 17, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
That’s gonna happen
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by lmaozedong on Jul 17, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Sanchez?
Why not Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner, Alderson, Sosa? We’ll run a 6 man rotation of death; laying waste to MLB offenses.
I don’t care how crazy it is, I’m drinking this fucking koolaid because it tastes goddamn good.
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by marcello on Jul 17, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll have a cup of that.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT WHAT ABOUT ZITO!?!
bat boy?!?
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
by GiNgiNxbOi on Jul 17, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duh!?!
We traded him to the Mariners for Phillippe Aumont. Every team needs more wacky Canadians.
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Jul 17, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fucking koolaid
Thanks a lot. I now have this visual of the cool aid guy and…never mind
Only 878 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jul 17, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the few times you get sticky before sex…....too far?
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Jul 17, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH YEAH!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jul 17, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Guy ?
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
by nvsfg on Jul 17, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
good point
i forgot about him
he’s a scrub duh
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by lmaozedong on Jul 17, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strasburg
I think Strasburg is a pipe dream (like winning the division). There’s no way we suck more than…well, several teams in the majors (a couple of whom are in our division).
I don’t expect much improvement or otherwise with this team. The thing with this team is, even though the vets are playing decently, the semi-prospects aren’t going to provide much less production. So I see this team being about they have been. They are what they are.
Only 878 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jul 17, 2008 11:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Strasburg is funny in a way. We definitely do have a good shot at him. There is no guarantee he will go #1. There is another full year of HS and College (almost) baseball before the next draft. He may drop a few spots. I think a top 3 pick is very doable, as well.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 17, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
About the same
Our hitting should suffer as we trade off vets like Durham & Aurilia & hand more ABs to Lewis, Bowker et all. They’ll take their lumps, esp. against LHP. But I honestly think that our pitching is going to improve. If Lincecum & Sanchez hold form, Cain will improve, as will Zito (it’s hard not to) – remember they’re both second half pitchers. I also expect Correia to do better & stay healthy, leading to a lot less Pat Misch in the rotation. The bullpen stays constant.
Thus we, a) trade off vets; b) play younger kids; c) get worse offensively; d) get better hitting – all of which balances out to mediocrity.
Post All-star break record prediction: 32-35
Overall record: 72-90
Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...
by tedfordfan on Jul 17, 2008 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted about the same.
Even if Sabean gets of the crapper and trades all the vets, we are so mediocre that the Rookies should be able to play the same level of ball. Thanks to Winns injury we will have to wait to unload him. Molina, Durham, Richy A., and even Zito should be kicked out of town. If we get a a middle to low prospect for them then at least we are building the farm system.
Come on Sabeeee. do it now.
Do you want to play hide the cracker?
by Baybear on Jul 17, 2008 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Barry Bonds is available.
Just sayin…
Bengie Molina: stretching doubles into singles since 1998.
by jasomack on Jul 17, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Overall
I think the team will seem weaker. However, I think the record will be about the same or perhaps slightly stronger.
The last 10 games or so have made the team seem like shit, but before that the team was playing pretty well and in many ways over their heads. I still have memories of Rowand Batting .342 and Molina hitting .320. Compared to those memories of the first half, I think the second half as a whole will feel weaker.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 17, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually.....
the Giants have the best record in the NL West since May 20. It is the NL West, so that’s not saying much. These kind of articles always scare me. This should not be a question.
I just hope that Sabean/Bochy don’t get all excited and think there is even a chance to win the division. I would hate to see trades made or veteran players kept because OMG WE COULD WIN THE DIVISON !!
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by nvsfg on Jul 17, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't think we will
I think Sabean knows what is up. Bochy may not – but then again his job is to win games.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 17, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stronger
Earlier Sabean mentioned Pablito would be skipping the black hole that is Norwich and go straight to Fresno. Somehow Pablito goes to Norwich to see the shiny submarines and is hacking a ton. Looks like the kid may skid the hell hole that is Fresno and go straight to The City,
by wilriv21 on Jul 17, 2008 8:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Second Half... the third best half.
At BES… etc.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 18, 2008 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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