OT: Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog
I know there are fans of Joss Whedon here, so I figured I'd post about his new internet mini-series "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" starring Neil Patrick Harris as Dr. Horrible, Nathan Fillion as Captain Hammer, and Felicia Day as Penny.
Dr. Horrible is a villain who is applying to get into the Evil League of Evil, but has a crush on a girl at the local laundromat. Captain Hammer is his arch-nemesis. Oh, and it's a musical, so if you liked the Buffy episode "Once More, With Feeling", you will probably love this.
Act I went up Tuesday, Act II went up today (Thursday), and Act III will be posted on Saturday. They will all be taken down on Sunday, and will only be available for purchase from iTunes for now, but a DVD will come later
Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog
PS If you're having trouble placing Felicia Day, she played the Potential Slayer "Vi" in the final season of Buffy.
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I would have bet anything that howie was going to make this post.
Felicia Day was also in a Cheetos commerical that seemed to run nonstop for months on end. Just for the record.
And Fillion’s delivery of “My penis is the hammer” was just about the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
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by groug on Jul 17, 2008 12:48 AM PDT 0 recs
No shit
That had me laughing pretty damn hard.
Felicia Day also has her own web series (The Guild) that is pretty funny.
by kaliber on
Jul 17, 2008 1:00 AM PDT
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Well, you guys just spoiled all of my Felicia Day knowledge.
She’s also, you know, a girl… and stuff. So there.
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 17, 2008 1:23 AM PDT
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I’m enjoying Dr. Horrible. NPH can really sing!
Honestly, not all that excited about Dollhouse, though.
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 17, 2008 1:24 AM PDT
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Dollhouse
Me neither.
The concept doesn’t really do anything for me. Neither does Eliza Dooshku (or however you spell her name).
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by thehavenot on
Jul 17, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
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But then
I wasn’t all that high on the concept for Firefly, either.
And the first 13 episodes made it appear as if it would have been my favorite tv series by the end.
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by thehavenot on
Jul 17, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
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The thing is, as time has gone on, I’ve sort of become frustrated with Joss (it started with Firefly and even a little bit in Angel, though it didn’t affect my enjoyment of those series). I disagree strongly with a number of his primary storytelling philosophies, and I’ve become really, really familiar with his rhythms and beats. When I’m watching Buffy and Angel and Firefly, that’s mostly fine because those are the places that I became familiar with those beats.. those are the places where those things are organic, where they were once fresh.
But even in Dr. Horrible, I feel myself groaning on the inside when jokes fall on certain beats, or follow certain structures (which they do a lot), because even when the joke itself is sound I just feel like I’ve heard it before (or some version of it). This even goes to the point where when NPH got a rock groove in Part II, I just kind of felt like that was his Spike moment…
And I don’t expect a lot to change with Dollhouse. I mean, it already has Eliza Dushku. And then even though he said he wasn’t going to cast a Joss retread, he went ahead and cast Amy Acker… somebody’s going to die, significant plot points will be ignored for the sake of metaphor… somebody will have a cooky sense of humor…
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 17, 2008 1:57 PM PDT
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Yes, he's definitely starting to get stale
But I guess it’s not hard when you have a cult following of absolutely adoring, fawning fans. I still remember one of my friends telling me about a book he found at the library which was written while Buffy was still on the air entitled “Joss Whedon: The Genius Behind Buffy the Vampire Slayer”
Genius.
I mean, don’t get me wrong, what he was doing was exactly what television needed. And I believe he has influenced at least some writers. For instance, the writers of Pirates of the Carribean.
Still, I get what you are saying. The ending of both Buffy and Angel annoyed me in different ways. And even though I absolutely loved Firely and Serenity, I see what you are saying.
I’ll probably check Dollhouse out. I won’t be surprised if I don’t end up watching it.
With all of that said, I really want to keep reading the Buffy comic books. I’ve only read the first issue and I like it so far. Angel too.
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by thehavenot on
Jul 17, 2008 7:53 PM PDT
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Ha! I actually kind of resent the facts of the comics themselves. It’s another Joss thing that kind of bugs me… he can’t let go of stories that have ended.
This doesn’t apply to Firefly very much, but both of the Buffy and Angel stories were ended definitively in the shows. The essential story of Buffy was always that she was an outsider to the real world, that she was “the one.” The final episode CURED that, completely. As Angel was winding down, the whole point of the show began to revolve around the idea that being alive is not a battle that you can win, that if you stop fighting, you lose the right to “live” (metaphor)... so in the final episode, when it ends on the note that their battle isn’t over and their war may never be over, that closed the metaphor and concluded what the series had come to. We don’t need to see any of Buffy not being “the one.” We don’t need to see Angel fighting more battles that we’ve been told, flat out simply won’t end.
Both stories were over. From a multi-media standpoint, I think it’s extremely cool that both have gone on to be succesful comics, but from a storyteller standpoint it bothers me that such definitive and sharp conclusions are being rendered essentially moot by virtue of the stories not being over. I mean, I’ve been indoctrinated in the philosophy of killing your darlings. For me that doesn’t just mean letting go of things that don’t work within a story. It means letting go of the story itself when it’s come to the end. I think this is an essential piece of TRULY good storytelling, and it saddens me that stories that I do adore haven’t been allowed to die when it would have left them at their best.
Then again, he has his own philosphies on storytelling and he’s being very succesful exercising them, and nobody is forcing me to read the comics (and I’m not, actually), so everybody’s prerogative here is, in fact, being satisfied here.
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 17, 2008 9:59 PM PDT
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For me, Buffy being “the one” wasn’t really what the show was about, and actually I’d argue that it was the most generic aspect of the whole enterprise. (I mean, name a major fantasy story that doesn’t involve the protagonist grappling with the question of whether he or she is “the one.” Rather, what made the show special was its genius concept: the high-school and young-adult years seen as a cheesy erotic-horror mythology. I’ve enjoyed most of Whedon’s other work that I’ve seen (the recent X-men comix were particularly good), but they’re just stories. Buffy’s more—it’s a worldview. Many people think it’s a dumb and obvious worldview, but for me it was remarkably rich and suprising.
Anyway, that aspect of the story had pretty much run its course by the end of season 6, so season 7 felt like a fun denouement rather than like the logical conclusion of the series. And so does season 8.
by Evan on
Jul 18, 2008 7:51 AM PDT
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One of the reasons why Buffy worked was that it didn’t take itself completely seriously. That is, it didn’t take itself seriously so that it could take itself seriously.
If it weren’t for the parts where Buffy poked fun at itself and highlighted the cheesyness of the genre and made fun of certain storytelling cliches associated with the genre then it wouldn’t have had the ability to be serious when it wasn’t poking fun at itself.
I have no idea if what I just wrote was even coherent. It’s coherent in my mind, at least. And that’s all that counts to me!
Also, I feel there’s three distinct phases of Buffy rather than two. There’s the high school years, there’s the college years and then there’s the grown up years. The grown up years does not have a clear boundary as with the high-school/college years. To me, the grown up period is marked by Xander getting his own apartment and by Buffy’s mom dying.
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by thehavenot on
Jul 18, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
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If people were dissecting something considered a classic, like I dont’ know….the Grapes of Wrath, do you think someone would comment “You guys really like the Grapes of Wrath?”
So what if it was a horror/fantasy/sci-fi tv show? It’s interesting to discuss.
It wasn’t my favorite show but it was really good.
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by thehavenot on
Jul 18, 2008 1:39 PM PDT
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If I can bring up Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle in my Asian American lit class on the topic of Asian stereotypes in the media, then there is certainly room for discussion on themes in television in regards to production and the writing.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 18, 2008 2:35 PM PDT
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Yup.
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 18, 2008 1:45 PM PDT
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Darn it
I always take too many words to say something.
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by thehavenot on
Jul 18, 2008 2:01 PM PDT
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RE: Angel
Of course the battles never end. But it wasn’t the final episode that told us that. It was the episode where Angel goes to Wolfram and Hart’s home office. When he discovers that the home office is, in fact, the world because evil can dwell in any one, it is at that point that we discover that the battles never end. I would think that if this is a reason that the show should end, then it should have ended there.
But I could go back even farther. After Buffy season 5. She dies. She defeats a god. Is she done? No. She comes back and the main villains are…three ordinary (if nerdy) guys? Evil can dwell in anyone. It’s the same message. The battle is never done. At the end of season 7 she defeats the first evil. The one that created all other evil. Is she done? Of course not. The battle is never done.
To me, that doesn’t mean that the story should end. I mean, it could, but not for that reason. As long as there are other stories to tell, then I have no problem with it.
As for Buffy being the one. I agree that that was a part of Buffy. But I think a more important part, perhaps the central part, was that she wasn’t alone. She wasn’t even the only slayer for most of the show. There were two, from the second season on. But even more important than that, was that she had allies. She had allies and, more importantly, she had friends and family, where other slayers had none (except for the slayer Spike killed on the subway and the whole point there was that, while she had a son, she wasn’t really a mother because she was a slayer and that was all she could be).
But Buffy was more than a slayer. She was a daughter, a sister, a friend. That was why she was the best. Spike, who was often the character with the best insight, said as much. Slayers were always alone. Except for Buffy.
Think about the episode where Cordelia wishes that Buffy had never come to Sunnydale. Why was that reality so messed up? Because Buffy was alone. She did not have Willow and Xander and Giles (and apparently her mother, for some reason).
So, while season seven annoyed the heck out of me, it ended in a very logical way. The only slayer to never be alone changed the balance of power. She, along with her friends, made it so that no slayer would ever be alone again.
So, suffice it to say I don’t see why the Buffy story should be over.
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by thehavenot on
Jul 18, 2008 12:48 PM PDT
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Well, it’s kind of an interesting problem, and I certainly oversimplified it above. For me, at its heart, Buffy was always about conceptualizing the growth process. I agree with Evan above about the three phases “high school college, and adult.” And based on that view of the story, there are plenty of areas of growth and maturity that had never been explored in the show that could be carried on. So by that metric, there is room for the Buffy story to continue being told.
I don’t really see anything resembling that in Angel, but I’ll stick to Buffy because it’s by far the more borderline of the two (well, borderline in my view, though I can see obviously not in yours).
I’ll also go on to say that I’m not trying to convince you that Buffy shouldn’t be a comic. I’m just trying to coherently express the reason that I personally don’t like the story continuing..
I think that for me it’s not just a matter of the story not having anywhere else to go. Every story will always have somewhere else to go. That’s just the nature of story endings. They’re only endings in the sense that that is the point where the story stops being told. There’s a saying that I agree with, and I don’t know it goes verbatim, but I know the gist. It goe something like this: Cinderella is only as great a story as it is because it stops before we get to the part where her marriage with the prince falls apart.
And, I mean, there’s no guarantee that the Cinderella story goes bad, but because it DOES end where it does, we don’t have to suffer with finding out. If the marriage does stay good, then all it does is unnecessarily confirm that the wedding would have been an honest place to have a happy ending. If the marriage does go bad, then it cheapens everything in the story that moved in the direction of getting them together.
This gets to a kind of philosophical question of when the right place for a story to end is. For the Cinderella example, it kinds of ends because of a lot of storytelling catch-22s.
But for me, the essence of it is that I story should end when it has come to terms with itself. The Buffy series, in my opinion, had come to terms with the Buffy story by that final episode. Buffy had grown into a woman, she had accepted her mothers’ death, she had learned to be a sister and a role model without having to be a surrugate mother, she had grown comfortable with herself as a leader AND as a peer. Even the other characters had come to terms with their storylines. Xander had grown up. Willow had healed enough from Tara’s death to move on with her life. And so on. I just very strongly feel that the story had come to terms with itself in as many aspects as you could reasonably expect it to do that.
It was a good ending. It was a place where, as a storyteller, I feel that I would have to come to terms with leaving the story where it was, no matter how much I loved it. The story could keep going. Organically speaking, it does keep going. But the story as “told” had reached a place where all of the pieces that had been motion came to rest. Where the inertia of the story was at rest. Where starting it up again isn’t natural so much as it is forceful.
Like I said, as much of this, for me, is sort of resentfulness stemming from the fact that I don’t think Whedon is doing what I know I’m going to have to do when I get to the point where my stories are individually told. Will I want to stop telling them, individually? I can’t imagine that I will. But should I? I honestly, sincerely, deeply believe that I should… that any storyteller should…
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 18, 2008 1:44 PM PDT
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Buffy
I think there is a place for Happily Ever After in storytelling. I just don’t think the end of Buffy the tv show was one of those places. I remember being annoyed during the last season of Angel because we saw very little evidence of the grand change in the world.
To me, you can’t just leave off and say “And she changed the world. The End.” To me, such a change needs to be explored. Buffy’s not just going to live Happily Ever After just because she’s grown to be a woman. She still has responsibilities and duties. Maybe someday she can, but certainly not at that point.
I guess it’s just a philosophical difference between us. A differing outlook, if you will.
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by thehavenot on
Jul 18, 2008 2:07 PM PDT
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I don’t mean to imply that I think the ending of the Buffy television series was a Happily Ever After ending. The Cinderella ending is a convenient was to simplify where I’m coming from, but it doesn’t cover it in such a broad sense. I don’t believe that Buffy has a Happily Every After ending. In many ways, I don’t believe that it possibly could have one. What I do believe, though, is that it had an ending.
I do understand where you’re coming from, though. It is clear that I believe that the story itself is best served by accepting an end point in all the ways that I’ve already detailed. It is clear that you, on the other hand, look past my aforementioned end-point and see things that you want to hear told. And you’re not wrong. There is story there. Sometimes, there is a great story there. I’m just not philosophically invested in those stories, where you are.
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 18, 2008 2:42 PM PDT
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Happily Ever After
But, had the Buffy story ended with the last episode of season seven, wouldn’t that have been a Happily Ever After? If there are no more stories told about Buffy, as far as we are concerned she lived happily ever after.
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by thehavenot on
Jul 18, 2008 10:54 PM PDT
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I don’t think that’s necessarily true. I don’t believe that a “Stuff happened ever after that wasn’t always happy” has to be told to exist in our conception. As far as we’re concerned, she can have lived happily ever after, but I don’t see why it would be limited to that.
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 20, 2008 4:13 PM PDT
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Watching Part II right now..
Favorite line so far:
NPH: “I want to be an achiever, like Bad Horse.”
FD: “The thoroughbred of sin?”
NPH: ”...I meant Gandhi.”
by Sandor Clegane on Jul 17, 2008 1:30 AM PDT 0 recs
wait...I take that back.
“She’s giving it up cause she’s with Captain Hammer. These…(holds up fists) are not the hammer. (walks away…comes back) The hammer is my penis.”
by Sandor Clegane on
Jul 17, 2008 1:35 AM PDT
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I just saw part II, and let me just say that I never thought I’d have to stay away from McC to avoid freaking Dr. Horrible spoilers.
THANKS A LOT GROUG I TOTALLY SAW THE PENIS LINE COMING!
It’s a lot of fun, ad NPH is carrying this thing like crayzee. But let’s not forget: the show is also doing somewhat important things for the industry. Born of the writer’s strike and the internet residuals controversy and so on.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 17, 2008 2:58 AM PDT 0 recs
I actually saw the line coming when I was watching it because of the way the scene was framed.
It was still amazing.
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by groug on
Jul 17, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
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And… thanks to this fanpost we now have Buffy Comics ads on this site featuring naked comics Dawn.
Just what I needed, a naked representation of Michelle Trachtenberg… (p.s. i don’t like her)
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by howtheyscored on Jul 17, 2008 3:01 AM PDT 0 recs
spoiler alert
looks like she’s turning into a Centaur. makes sense.
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by kennv on
Jul 17, 2008 6:50 AM PDT
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Dawn was the absolute most irritating character, and Trachtenberg’s squeal/screams were atrocious.
by kaliber on
Jul 17, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
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Jesus
There are a lot of nerds here.
Buffy? Really?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 17, 2008 8:48 AM PDT 0 recs
DID SOMEBODY SAY POKEMON??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on
Jul 17, 2008 9:04 AM PDT
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zomg I traded for shiny Caterpie it was ozm
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 17, 2008 9:48 AM PDT
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This seems to happen every time I post. Starts with Joss and ends up Pokemon.
by kaliber on
Jul 17, 2008 10:56 AM PDT
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DUDE YOU HAVE LIKE A ZILLION SHINIES!
I’ve only even ever SEEN one that wasn’t the red Gyarados or some Elite 4 thing. You’re the luckiest person in the world.
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 17, 2008 1:46 PM PDT
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I actually caught three shinies in Silver, hella randomly. I haven’t even seen one since.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 17, 2008 2:14 PM PDT
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you did it
now I have to link to this.
See how far down Pokemon Fans Over the Age of SIx is? One step up from furries.
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by oldjacket on
Jul 17, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
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I got a good laugh out of that. When you’re a f’ing nerd like me, you just wear it. Proudly.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 17, 2008 2:41 PM PDT
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I’m not baggin’ on nerds here. I’ll wear that one, too.
BTB, he forgot to include the trappings of baseball related nerdery
people who play fantasy baseball-> people who get the BPro Annual delivered -> People who know the names of AAA middle relievers in their favorite organization -> People who know the names of AAA middle relievers in organizations they have no connection with.
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by oldjacket on
Jul 17, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
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Sportswriters=nerds. I don’t even need to explain myself. Just need a business card.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 17, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
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-> People who dress up as animal versions of AAA middle relievers in organizations they have no connections with
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by groug on
Jul 17, 2008 2:58 PM PDT
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I like, I don’t know, Jeff Gray is an Ocelot or something . . .
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by oldjacket on
Jul 17, 2008 3:01 PM PDT
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It was a very good show
:shrugs:
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by thehavenot on
Jul 17, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
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There are a lot of nerds here.
So… this goes in the “thanks, Captain Obvious” files, doesn’t it?
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by howtheyscored on
Jul 17, 2008 1:47 PM PDT
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Lol
I’m not trying to be a dick, I just have a really hard time identifying :)
Ironically, most would think I am a nerd (I ended up an engineer after all) but I could never get into any of the sci-fi type of stuff.
I just don’t get it ;)
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by FairweatherFan on
Jul 17, 2008 2:32 PM PDT
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Nerds emerge from every interest, every walk of life. I was breaking down the Democrats’ resistance to domestic offshore drilling to my grandmother who has maybe one firing brain cell left in her head, jusr babbling about the whole thing. So I’m a polisci nerd. Big whoop.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 17, 2008 2:43 PM PDT
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*just
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 17, 2008 2:43 PM PDT
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this comment reminds me . . .
of the footnote joke in this post
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by oldjacket on
Jul 17, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
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God dammit, part III sucked. I enjoyed watching Dr. Horrible because of what it was, what it had made itself out to be and what it had been executing as its persona. There was no reason for Part III to be something else, and no reason for the songs in Part III to suck, either.
Grrr.
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