Open "I Hate Joe Buck and Fox Sports" Thread
I probably shouldn't be the one starting this discussion, since I only caught the last two innings of the All-Star Game last night (played softball in GG Park instead; yeah, looks like I missed a wild game!). And yet, even in those two innings, listening to Joe Buck announce baseball was so excrutiating that I couldn't imagine what those of you who suffered with him for all 15 innings felt.
To quote jponry about the final play: "Could Buck’s call of that have been any more monotone and uncaring?" (I thank the broadcasting gods Joe Buck was not the guy calling the Federer-Nadal final at Wimbledon.) Seriously, how can anyone in Major League Baseball not named Bud Selig be anything but completely embarrassed that this douchebag is the lead announcer for their sport when he shows no apparent enthusiasm for it, let alone his inability to pronounce the names of players like, say, the American League ERA leader who just happens to play in a part of the country very far from Boston and New York?
Criticisms of Buck and Fox Sports get tossed around here all the time, but I feel it's long overdue we consolidate our hatred towards these asshats into one, single thread that we can save for posterity and show to our grandchildren. Consider this the McCoven's Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
Besides, it's a slow off-day.
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The way Buck kept mentioning the possible tie over and over again made me think he honestly wanted the game to finish in a tie. He seriously could not give a shit about baseball and it’s a joke that he’s got the biggest play by play gig in the majors.
And technically, he’s just an awful play by play guy, even without the disdain, monotone and the unbearable smugness. He is just not any good at calling a baseball game. It’s painful.
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by jponry on Jul 16, 2008 9:26 AM PDT 0 recs
I listened to the start of the game on the radio during my drive home yesterday. They had FOUR friggin’ people broadcasting. Four? Why the hell do you need four people on a RADIO broadcast? Give me two voices, and call it a day! The extra two are just idiots collecting a paycheck, and providing redundancy.
As for the Fox broadcast team, I think Joe Buck just has a stream of consciousness going on. He doesn’t stop talking! The entire time, it was just talktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalk… I eventually just muted the game. Then I turned it off anyway.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Jul 16, 2008 9:30 AM PDT 0 recs
Joe Buck Admits He Doesn’t Enjoy Baseball Anymore
The prosecution rests.
Also, stfu, TIm McCarver.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jul 16, 2008 9:33 AM PDT 0 recs
i had heard the legends. so why did i listen? somehow i hate Joe Buck even more… “Baseball sucks. I’d rather watch Bachelorette. Football is better.” jeesh.
Castillo hits doubles.
by kennv on
Jul 16, 2008 12:50 PM PDT
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I remember this, which is why I wasn’t surprised by his call last night (aside from the fact that he’s a freaking horrible announcer). I don’t expect him to get worked up if he doesn’t really care about it.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
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by raisingcain on
Jul 16, 2008 3:03 PM PDT
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Out of context
Technically, yes, the clip has Buck saying he doesn’t enjoy baseball THE WAY HE USED TO. But his reasons are all sound: Today’s lifestyle is busier, the game has gotten slower, and unlike football, baseball’s season incorporates dozens of games that won’t be crucial to the standings.
To my ears, Buck is simply saying baseball viewing lacks the urgency it once had, now that it’s possible to innundate oneself with baseball news and nationwide points of view. Football, where most contending teams have the playoffs on the line nearly every week - and whose season doesn’t overlap the playoff runs of two other major sports - is an easier sell.
Full disclosure: I’ve never minded Buck’s monotone. I find him a reasonable announcer. It’s Tim McCarver that I’d like to box up and deport to Greenland.
by wedge on
Jul 17, 2008 12:38 PM PDT
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WTF did Greenland ever do to deserve that???
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on
Jul 17, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
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Football
Is a sport designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. People say baseball games are slow, but football is 10x worse.
The stop and go nature of football lends itself perfectly to short attention spans and TV commercials.
It is a sport that was defined in a different era, for a different audience.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jul 17, 2008 2:27 PM PDT
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In the Ken Burns Baseball documentary, George Will has a line – something like, “Football represents the worst parts of the American character. It’s violence punctuated by committee meetings.”
by jcb9 on
Jul 17, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
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I have to admit, I kinda like Geoge Will. Cranky old bastard that he is.
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on
Jul 18, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
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Favorite idiotic quote of all time from McCarver
From FJM:
“We had our friends at Stats, Inc. check and see whether more multi-run innings came with a lead off homer or a lead off walk. You would think that a lead off walk would lead to more big innings than a lead off home run. Not true. A lead off home run, this year, has lead to more multi-run innings than lead off walks. It’s against conventional thinking.”
The loonies are running the nut house.
BTW, I thought xanthan was Stats Inc? He’s friends with Tim McCarver? What’s the deal?
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 16, 2008 9:34 AM PDT 0 recs
I could tolerate maybe seven innings of Buck’s blatant Yankees dicksucking before I actually got angry. How the son of Jack Buck, one of the greatest announcers in sports history, could be such a godawful broadcaster, is just unfathomable.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 16, 2008 9:44 AM PDT 0 recs
It’s either he gets paid to say all that BS or he really enjoys sucking each of the Yankees personnel off.
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jul 16, 2008 9:49 AM PDT
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I get that shilling is part of the game now (see Kruk and Kuip parroting whatever ads the network tells them) but come the fuck on. For a national broadcast, objectivity should be your utmost concern, especially for an event that encompasses all the teams such as the All Star Game. Yes, Yankee Stadium is special. Yes, it was a big night for the last year of the ballpark. But as we all know very well this is not the first time Buck has tripped all over himself in disgusting fellatic (is that a word?) praise about a team that doesn’t mean a doodily fuck to more people than he wants to realize.
I eternally loathe him.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 16, 2008 9:56 AM PDT
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I feel fortunate to have the ability to listen to the constant professional stylings of one Jon Miller. And it’s great to see him represent every Sunday night. Even when he does Giants games on ESPN, he is very fair in commentating both sides of the plate. Jon Miller haters can kiss my ass.
With Kruk & Kuip, they really are the comic relief that helps me get through these slow times. It’s all for entertainment, but it usually never borderlines with idiocy. Idiocy being Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jul 16, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
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For some reason, all sons and grandsons of great announcers seem to be horrible announcers. Joe Buck, Skip Caray, Chip Caray, etc.
by jcb9 on
Jul 16, 2008 10:10 PM PDT
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Hank and Doug Greenwald are good. :)
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 17, 2008 7:11 AM PDT
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I’ve only heard Doug Greenwald a few times in spring training, but he seemed kinda dull. Not actively bad, though, which is great for the son of an announcer.
by jcb9 on
Jul 17, 2008 10:40 PM PDT
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Network Sports broadcasting (including ESPN) in general is not geared towards the rabid fan, but the more casual fan who isn’t into the minutiae of sports. FoxSports puts on a very shiny/sparkly broadcast, which is ok in small doses, but it gets old quick for those who just want to watch the game.
What would make the ASG more watchable would be to have no announcers or sideline reporters at all. just the sights and sounds of the game with a few graphics showing the score and some stats on the players would be fine with me.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 16, 2008 9:48 AM PDT 0 recs
I'm certainly not against announcers at all
I just think they need to be GOOD announcers. I mean seriously, how friggin’ hard could it be to get an announcer who doesn’t suck? Just don’t offer the game to Joe and Tim ANYMORE!!!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on
Jul 16, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
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Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 16, 2008 9:48 AM PDT 0 recs
THIRD MOST DISGUSTING ACT AT BEST
AT BEST!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on
Jul 16, 2008 9:49 AM PDT
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favorite moment
in sports history.
I hate the packers.
BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on
Jul 16, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
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Joe Buck = douche
I can’t stand him at all. Probably the biggest argument against Nepotism
www.wazzel.com (prove your sports knowledge if you can)
by NeifiChicken on Jul 16, 2008 9:51 AM PDT 0 recs
People would like to question Joe Buck, but they don’t, because they can’t figure out how.
You see, he’s a Cardinals fan, and as we all know, they’re infallible.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 16, 2008 9:52 AM PDT 0 recs
Cardinals fan?

that explains the infallibility perception…
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by nostocksjustbonds on
Jul 16, 2008 10:06 AM PDT
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i couldn’t stand listening to those two!
y did they pick them to announce the game?
by giantsgirl510 on Jul 16, 2008 9:55 AM PDT 0 recs
Next year, let John Miller, Kruk and Kuip call the game
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 16, 2008 10:07 AM PDT 0 recs
Fuck Joe Buck and Tim McCarver!!!
Watching the game last night was more than a chore. My mother in law, in an attempt to somehow bond with me has taken up an sudden interest in base ball. She was watching the game with me and was thourouglly confused by all the nonsence coming out of Joe Buck’s mouth. If Fox is trying to appeal to causal fans they are failing.
Best moment of the game was when Joe and Tim were talking about Jeter (I think) Joe commented how he is “a professional hitter” then McCarver pipes in and says he is “such a professional player, not just his hitting but his fielding as well” At that point my mother in law said”well thats kind of a dumb comment, aren’t they all professional players?” It is pretty bad when even a novice points out some of the asinine things that comes out of the Fox announcers mouths.
by Angry Dwarf on Jul 16, 2008 10:12 AM PDT 0 recs
it was Micheal Young
and then McCarver raved about his defense, which led me to screaming at the TV. My wife, mother, and 2 year old daughter all looked at me as though I were crazy. First off, it was an affront to language. Secondly, the idea that Young is a good defensive SS is so laughable…it’s like John Candy + George Carlin + Dane Cook x 1.2 million. AAARRRGGHHHTTT FUCKING WORTHLESS FOX ANNOUNCERS!!!!!!
Does it bother anyone else that Buck and McCarver essentially bend over and schill for St. Louis and the Cardinals as though they were being paid by the word? I hope Jack haunts Joe every goddamn night.
by tyrannoman on
Jul 16, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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Thanks
It was M. Young.
When is the Fox MLB T.V. deal over? 2012?
by Angry Dwarf on
Jul 16, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
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Don’t ever mention Dane Cook and George Carlin in the same sentence.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
Jul 16, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
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Compared with George Carlin, Dane Cook is a comedy abomination.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
by groug on
Jul 16, 2008 10:52 AM PDT
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Compared to the genocide in Sudan, Dane Cook is a comedy abomination.
Too soon?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on
Jul 16, 2008 10:56 AM PDT
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Anagram of "Giants pitcher Matt Cain" = TRAGIC MAN, ISN'T PATHETIC
by Stuttering John Tamargo on
Jul 16, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
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At best!
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on
Jul 16, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
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I was just putting them in the same sentence.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
by groug on
Jul 16, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
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I liked the way Joe Buck pronounced Justin Duchscherer’s name.
by xanthan on Jul 16, 2008 10:15 AM PDT 0 recs
do have to give him credit
for correcting himself, though. I hate to give Buck credit for anything, but he did make it right.
by tyrannoman on
Jul 16, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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Except that if you’re broadcasting the ASG and especially if you’re introducing the players on both TV and over the PA in the stadium, part of your professional responsibility should be going over the lineups the night before and confirming the pronunciation of the names of any players you might be unfamiliar with. I know it sounds like I’m making a big deal about this, but the whole things just smacks of Joe Buck not following baseball closely enough and not caring enough to hide that fact.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on
Jul 16, 2008 10:35 AM PDT
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Yeah, and it look doubly bad after his recent interview a couple of weeks ago about how he doesn’t watch or really care for baseball anymore.
by xanthan on
Jul 16, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
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I agree
but at least he had the balls to come out and say he fucked up. I still want to kick the guy in the balls hard enough they fly out his mouth, though.
by tyrannoman on
Jul 16, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
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Except at that point the correction is all about himself, not about any offense to the player.
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on
Jul 16, 2008 11:15 AM PDT
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at least he didn't pronounce it "Douche-er-er"
which is how I pronounce it when I’m hanging around A’s fans…
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by nostocksjustbonds on
Jul 16, 2008 1:35 PM PDT
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I simply go with Douche-er.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on
Jul 16, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
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I don't remember who the dudes on the radio broadcast were
But they drove me absolutely fucking nuts through the first 9 innings. Rivera strikes out one and they act like it’s the second coming of christ, but Dempster comes out in the bottom of the inning and strikes out the side and they hardly change inflection.
However, as the game went into extras they actually got a lot better. It was almost as if the true fan came out in them and they stopped putting on the retard act.
By the end they were tolerable.
I think the person who noted above that the target was the casual fan has it right. The occasional baseball watcher doesn’t get sick of them going on and on about the east coast teams because they don’t listen to them enough. Pop on for a few innings and watch, and then go do something else.
It truly is a disgrace to baseball however.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 16, 2008 10:16 AM PDT 0 recs
on TV, they slow motioned a second strike for us all to watch as they drooled all over Rivera. after barely noticing any other strike out up to that point. grr…
Castillo hits doubles.
by kennv on
Jul 16, 2008 12:54 PM PDT
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The Yogi interview was really painful. God bless Yogi, but having him in the booth for the half-inning was painful.
by xanthan on Jul 16, 2008 10:22 AM PDT 0 recs
AFLAC
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jul 16, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
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If you don't have it
that’s why you need it.
by rightcenterfielder on
Jul 16, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
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It gives you cash
which is the same as money
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jul 16, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
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That was hard to listen too, and I love Yogi. Perhaps there comes a time when these guys just shouldn’t be in the booth. If they feel they HAD to have a Yankee up there, throw in Goose Gossage. Especially with the 25th anniversery of the Pine Tar Incident and all. (BTW, best baseball clip EVER)
by tyrannoman on
Jul 16, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
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Well Yogi Berra is 100 years old, but he barely made sense at 20. That’s just Yogi.
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on
Jul 16, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
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The announcing was terrible, but at least I learned that it’s possible to fellate a stadium.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
by groug on Jul 16, 2008 10:53 AM PDT 1 recs
YANKEE STADIUM!!!!!!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on
Jul 16, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
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Third-most historic stadium
AT BEST!!!
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on
Jul 16, 2008 11:14 AM PDT
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you should have learned that when they opened PacBC&T Park
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by nostocksjustbonds on
Jul 16, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
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Summary of Fox Sports coverage
Bad broadcasters and bad gimmicks. Just SELL the game and stop trying to MARKET it. There’s a difference.
The game doesn’t need all the flashy graphics or the stupid little animated characters or the over dramatization of EVERYTHING or the constant injections of shitty popular songs that happen to fit a particular theme.
And we can also do without the barrage of Fox show tie-ins. You exist to benefit the game, not the other way around.
One more thing – remember when they gave an orchestral score to the 9th inning of a game, which just happened to be at AT&T? Worst. Idea. Ever.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 16, 2008 11:06 AM PDT 0 recs
“One more thing – remember when they gave an orchestral score to the 9th inning of a game, which just happened to be at AT&T? Worst. Idea. Ever.”
I’m not sure what you’re referring to here. Please explain?
by Cleophus on
Jul 17, 2008 5:29 PM PDT
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We don’t have cable any more and I’m not paying for MLBtv but I could have watched the game had I wanted to. Usually I catch at least part of the all-star game. It reminds me of my childhood, when I used to absolutely love the all-star game.
However, I knew it would be infruriating what with this being the last year of Yankee Stadium and the game being played there. I just knew I couldn’t stand the OMG YANKEE STADIUM…LEGENDARY…HOLOWWED GROUND,.kYANKEES>>>HISTORY…MOG!!#($)#!
Only 878 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jul 16, 2008 11:15 AM PDT 0 recs
Truth: Joe Buck and Tim McCarver are just a symptom of the American media appealing to the lowest common denominator of entertainment. Rather than a broadcast that informs and inspires the audience to learn more about our great sport, FOX and MLB takes the easy way out and makes it a dumbed down slobberfest, because it’s the easiest god damned thing for them to do. It’s a production, in every sleazy infotainment connotation of the word. If the popularity of this sport increases over the next fifty years, it will be despite these, and other short sighted calculations trickling from the mind of Mr. Selig.
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on Jul 16, 2008 11:25 AM PDT 0 recs
Had To Post This...
This unfortunately is a real book. I wonder if he has read it :-)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
by nvsfg on Jul 16, 2008 11:29 AM PDT 0 recs
All of the sudden I’m convinced that burning books isn’t such a bad thing.
by xanthan on
Jul 16, 2008 11:33 AM PDT
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Yeah this book makes my brain die.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Jul 16, 2008 11:34 AM PDT
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Sounds like you need a brain surgeon and other fans!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
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Jul 16, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
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"This is the Gray's Anatomy of Baseball"
Man, I hope that’s in reference to the show, not the actual book or anything. Because then it would make sense.
“This book is like watching an episode of Gray’s Anatomy! At the end, you’ll be depressed, know less about the actual workings of hospitals/baseball, and probably hate everyone involved!”
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on
Jul 16, 2008 1:15 PM PDT
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I just barfed all over my laptop. Now I need a new one. Yet another disgrace by Tim McCarver. Too bad Bob Gibson didn’t just beat the shit out of him like he wanted to back in the ‘60’s. It couldv’e spared us all years of paint and stupidity.
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