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minor lines, 7/14/08

AAA: Fresno defeated Colorado Springs 2-1

Fresno: SS Jake Wald: 1 for 3, 2B, BB, SO
Fresno: LF Brett Harper: 2 for 4, HR, SO

Fresno: RHP Brad Hennessey: 9.0 IP, 8 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

Harper had two of the Grizzlies' five hits, including his 11th HR.  Also reaching base twice was Wald, playing his third game since rejoining the Grizzlies after two and a half months in Connecticut.

Hennessey had his best start of the year with the complete-game victory.  He allowed just one run in the 6th inning, but his ERA remains above 5.00.  He threw 72 of 102 pitches for strikes and had a 15/9 GO/FO line.

AA: Connecticut defeated New Hampshire 4-1

Connecticut: RF Ben Copeland: 2 for 4, HR, 2B
Connecticut: 3B Ryan Rohlinger: 1 for 1, HR, 2 BB
New Hampshire: DH J.P. Arencibia: 3 for 4

Connecticut: RHP Adam Cowart: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
Connecticut: RHP Kelvim Pichardo: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 2 K
Connecticut: RHP Justin Hedrick: 1.0 IP, 1 BB, 1 K

Rohlinger connected for his 3rd Eastern League HR and 10th HR of the year.  Copeland had his 4th HR.  The Blue Jays' Arencibia had his second three-hit game of the series.

Cowart had his second straight very good start, although he pitched less than six innings.  He still gave up a fair number of hits, but his 8/3 GO/FO line was encouraging considering his GO/AO ratio below 1.00 in June when opposing batters hit close to .400 against him.  Pichardo and Hedrick each had a scoreless inning.

A+: San Jose lost to Stockton 3-0

San Jose: DH Andy D'Alessio: 2 for 4
Stockton: CF Corey Brown: 0 for 4, 3 SO
Stockton: 3B Chris Carter: 1 for 3, HR, SO

San Jose: LHP Jesse English: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 9 K--1 HR, 1 WP
San Jose: LHP Joe Paterson: 2.0 IP, 4 K

D'Alessio had two of the Giants fives hits, but even with a .283 AVG, he still has more strikeouts than hits.  Brown, whom the A's drafted in the supplemental first round a year ago, hit a very good .270/.358/.483 in 300 AB in the Midwest League, but in his fifth game in the Cal League, he suffered his first oh-fer there, including a hat trick, giving him 11 SO through his first 22 AB.  Carter went deep for the second consecutive night, raising his impressive HR total to 26.

On the down side, English allowed more than 2 ER for the first time in over a month.  On the up side, he matched what is perhaps a season high, maybe even a career high, with 9 K.  His peripheral stats after eighteen starts are now 79 H, 32 BB and 100 K in 96.0 IP.  Paterson had perhaps his best appearance of the season, at least statistically.

A-: Augusta defeated Delmarva 5-2

Augusta: 1B Angel Villalona: 2 for 4, 2B, 2 SO
Augusta: DH Thomas Neal: 3 for 4, 2 HR, SO

Augusta: RHP Oliver Odle: 5.1 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K--1 HB

Neal, who had 6 HRs in April and then just 2 HRs since then, connected for 2 HRs.  Villalona was the only other GreenJacket with multiple hits, although he still has more strikeouts than hits (73 H and 81 SO among 299 AB for a .244 AVG).

Odle has now allowed no runs in two of his three July starts, bringing his ERA below 4.00.

ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Vancouver 6-5

Salem-Keizer: SS Wladimir Frias: 3 for 4, E
Salem-Keizer: 1B Mike Loberg: 2 for 3, BB

Salem-Keizer: RHP Andrew Reichard: 3.1 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 3 K--1 HB
Salem-Keizer: RHP Orlando Yntema: 1.2 IP, 2 K
Salem-Keizer: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--1 WP

Frias and Loberg both reached base three times, improving their respective OBPs to .373 and .363.

Reichard made his third start, the shortest of his three starts.  Returning from the DL, Yntema made his first appearance with the Volcanoes, being better than perfect with five outs while facing four batters.  He earlier made fourteen appearances (five starts) for Augusta this year.  Quirarte allowed an earned run after seven straight appearances without an earned run.

R: Giants defeated Cubs 8-6

Scottsdale: RF Ryan Mantle: 3 for 4, 2B, BB
Scottsdale: 3B Josh Mazzola: 3 for 5, 2 2B

Scottsdale: LHP Meroly Nova: 3.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 2 K

Mantle and Mazzola both had three hits, raising their respective AVGs to .300 and .267.

Nova's fourth start of the season was his first one without allowing an earned run.  His ERA remains above 7.00.

DSL: Giants defeated Red Sox 9-8
(despite allowing six runs in 8th inning)

Dominican: 3B Cesar Osuna: 1 for 4, HR, SO
Dominican: RHP Edward Concepcion: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 9 K--1 HB

Osuna (17.7 y.o.) connected for his first pro HR.  Concepcion (19.9 y.o.) had 9 K, nearly doubling his previous season high of 5 K, accomplished four times in his previous seven starts.

An overdue update to my "Future Forty" list:
1. RHP Timothy Alderson
2. LHP Madison Bumgarner
3. 1B Angel Villalona
4. RHP Henry Sosa
5. 2B Nick Noonan
6. RF Nate Schierholtz
7. SS Emmanuel Burriss
8. CF Wendell Fairley
9. C Pablo Sandoval
10. LHP Alex Hinshaw
11. RHP Merkin Valdez
12. 2B Travis Denker
13. RHP Sergio Romo
14. RHP Osiris Matos
15. LHP Clayton Tanner
16. LHP Ben Snyder
17. RHP Billy Sadler
18. RHP Kelvin Pichardo
19. 1B Travis Ishikawa
20. SS Brian Bocock
21. 2B Matt Downs
22. RHP Joe Martinez
23. LHP Jesse English
24. RHP Wilbur Bucardo
25. SS Charlie Culberson
26. LF Brian Horwitz
27. LHP Erick Threets
28. 3B Ryan Rohlinger
29. LHP Paul Oseguera
30. CF Clay Timpner
31. RHP Brian Anderson
32. RHP Edwin Quirarte
33. LF Eddy Martinez-Esteve
34. CF Michael McBryde
35. RHP Waldis Joaquin
36. RHP Kevin Pucetas
37. C Jackson Williams
38. RHP Justin Hedrick
39. LHP Geno Espineli
40. RHP Daryl Maday

 

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Steve, love the future 40.

Did you bump Sandoval up some? I don’t remember him cracking the top-10 last time.

Any reason Pucetas is so low? I know he’s a finesse guy and they often get eaten up before they make the pros, but I think I’d stick him in the mid-to-late 20’s. Definitely ahead of Threets.

Again, love the list and all the updates you give us.

by xanthan on Jul 15, 2008 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Future 40 looks pretty great, Steve. I might switch Sandoval and Fairley, simply due to proximity to the majors, but I like it.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 15, 2008 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Steve, glad to see you’re moving Romo and Downs up finally. How about giving Hedrick a nudge upwards as well? I think I’d swap Rohlinger and Bocock. Kudos on getting Maday into the top 40! And Fairley is this high because…?

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Jul 15, 2008 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Was at the SJG game

I wrote a post about it, but it should have been just added onto here

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/7/15/572172/san-jose-stockton-7-14-08

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Jul 15, 2008 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

$2.5 million can't buy you a spot on the Future Forty?

Just my opinion, but English, Pucetas and Bucardo have each pitched themselves up the list a bit.

Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...

by tedfordfan on Jul 15, 2008 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah I was wondering where Raf-Rod was

also where’s Posey? I know he hasn’t signed yet but still.

by boonitez on Jul 15, 2008 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He won’t be on the list until he’s signed. He’s not a Giant right now.

by xanthan on Jul 15, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great list. I’d probably go with Bumgarner at No. 1, but it’s pretty damn close. Where should we put Rafael Rodriguez? Probably not top five at this point, I presume.

by Dan from NM on Jul 15, 2008 10:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Sickels had a good discussion on this topic a couple weeks back.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/7/5/564251/tim-alderson-or-madison-bu

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 16, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bumgarner and Alderson could pretty much be #1 and #1a in my mind right now. They’re pretty close. A week ago I would have listed them in the opposite order, but I deferred to BA’s mid-season top 25 list. The stats had suggested that Bumgarner had not been quite as sharp in his last two starts.

Rafael Rodriguez was an oversight on my part. Definitely top five. I’m not really informed on him, but based on the signing bonus, I would assume he has to rate ahead of Noonan at least. Is there a consensus on how McCovey Chroncicles commenters are rating him in comparison to Villalona?

by steve S on Jul 17, 2008 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

The comps for Villalona and Rodriguez were different. Scouts were saying AnVil is like a good Adrian Beltre, and Rodriguez of course is drawing the Vladimir Guerrero comps. I don’t know anyone who would take Beltre over Vlad even when Beltre was great.

As with all these guys who are signed/drafted and have yet to play, I remain reserved. Give the guy a half season at least in the system before I start talking about what he can and can’t do as a Giant.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and I think Angel’s bat was less of a question at the time of his signing. Rodriguez is supposed to have great power - 70 on the 20-80 scale - but some are concerned over his hitting approach and that he might be too “front footed”

Still, he’s 16-years-old and a long way away. I’m happy to have both of them.

by xanthan on Jul 17, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely. Let this also be the first of a flood of great young international signings.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beltre vs. Vlad—I was just looking up their minor-league stats the other day, while curious about how Villalona was doing relative to other phenoms at the same age. And really, there’s no comparison. Beltre as a teenager was about as good as any prospect has ever been. His performance in the SAL at age 17 was better than Vlad’s performance in the same league at age 19.

But Villalona and Beltre don’t seem to have much in common at this point.

by Evan on Jul 17, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take all that as good news for the future.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alderson has definitely been catching up to Bumgarner, performancewise. At this point Alderson’s year has probably been more impressive. But Bumgarner still has the edge in stuff and projection, so I guess he’s on top.

Between Sosa and Noonan sounds right for RRod.

by Evan on Jul 17, 2008 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hennessey

Who had Henn as first Giant pitcher to pitch a CG? Oh, in Fresno? Still, I hope this means he can “turn it around” and give Correia some competition for 5th starter and be ready to fill in some starts for Sanchez and Tim down the stretch if need be.

Castillo hits doubles.

by kennv on Jul 15, 2008 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Why is Wendell Fairley ahead of Pablo Sandoval?

by positiveuphemism on Jul 16, 2008 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

“F” comes before “S” in alphabet?

by wilriv21 on Jul 16, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Based on tools. I’m putting very little weight on Fairley’s performance to date so far.

by steve S on Jul 17, 2008 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice list and actually brings in some optimism. In the first 25, there are 11 position players, pretty good balance!
It’s cool that more young pitchers keep appearing—Quirarte, Maday, and could add Odle.
Timpner is falling fast, IMO, and my attitude toward Valdez is on hold while injured.

adopter/sponsor of "Go, Antoan" Richardson

by foothillsfan on Jul 16, 2008 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ve been a Timpner booster in the past, but I’m ready to declare his prospect days done. He’s not even hitting right-handers this year.

by Evan on Jul 16, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that he’s pretty much done as a prospect.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 16, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

where would our new draft picks fit into the future 40?

proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..

by Azmanz on Jul 16, 2008 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I imagine Posey would move to #1. Gallaspie somewhere from 5-8?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 16, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am with you guys on Timpner. Tho he is kind of a speed and D guy.
I can’t put Posey ahead of Angel V yet. College hitters are not consistent at making the step up.

adopter/sponsor of "Go, Antoan" Richardson

by foothillsfan on Jul 16, 2008 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Madison Bumgarner

The kid pitched another great game tonight. Bumgarner pitched 7 shutout innings of 4 hits and 11 Ks for his ninth win of the season.

by wilriv21 on Jul 16, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mad Bum was great last night. He struggled some in the start before but regrouped to throw one of his best games, if not the best. I love this guy.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2008 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

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