First Half Fun Facts
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 13, 2008 11:55 PM PDT
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PrintGiants starters lead the NL with 495 strikeouts.
The Big 3 of Timmeh, Matteh and Durteh tallied 367 Ks as starters, more than in all starts by pitchers for Florida, Washington, Colorado, St. Louis or Pittsburgh.
Giants starters also lead the league with 249 walks, but had a league-low 13 HBP. (Missing away? Nibbling? Failure to challenge hitters inside?)
Giants starters yielded only 53 Home Runs, 2nd lowest in the leasgue.
The Big 3 had as many wins as starters as all starters for San Diego (23) and more than Pittsburgh and Washington.
The Big 3 all placed in the top 6 on the list of NL first half strikeout leaders. (Hasn't happened in the NL at least since 1999, then I got bored.)
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Here are some sad facts...
26th worst record, 24th wost run differential, 27th in Runs scored, 18th in ERA, 16th in Stater’s ERA (Zito-Corriea-Misch not helping this), 23rd in Bullpen ERA, 25th in defensive efficiency. The only stats where we rank in the upper-half of baseball are 2B, 3B, SB, Runs Allowed (13th) and Strikeouts induced (1st). Not one player is in the top 10 at his position in OPS and only Rowand has an OPS over .800 (.804).
The defensive efficiency stat I saw on Baseball Prospectus surprised me because we’ve gotten + defense out of SS and all 3 outfield spots. But our 2nd base combination of Durham-Velez-Denker has been brutal, Castillo’s been erratic and Bowker is really green. How is Molina’s defense, I can’t find a solid measurement for catchers?
by mark30perq3 on Jul 14, 2008 1:11 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Average age of a Giants’ at bat this year: 30.26
That is ((“Player Age” x “Player at Bats”) + (“Player Age” x “Player at Bats”) + ...) / Total at Bats
That includes pitchers, who skew younger.
Totally useless. But, you know, whatever.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 14, 2008 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Why not PA?
instead of AB?
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 14, 2008 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Because it was 2:30 in the morning, I was on yahoo, and the at bats column was closer to the player name (and thus less difficult to accurately track).
PA would have certainly been better.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 14, 2008 3:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Average age of a Giants’ at bat this year: 30.26
This may be what has irked me the most about this entire half season for the giants…followed up in a close second by all the bizarre and inexplicable callups.
Todd Jennings: Next up on the Non-prospect Backup Catcher Train. Next Stop: The Pine at AT&T Park, following a brief detour by the DL
by Speedforthewin on Jul 14, 2008 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Call-ups
Given the talent level in the upper minors, what did you expect? No-brainer callups?
by NearestNorwich on Jul 14, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I have to say
I kinda agree with this. The “throw shit at the wall and see what sticks” approach in many ways may have just been a way to rapidly sift through the until recently neglected farm to discover what was worth keeping.
I don’t dislike it as much as most here do.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 14, 2008 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be opposed to "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks". What bothers me is “call shit up from Double A, play shit sporadically and haphazardly so that shit can’t get into any sort of rhythm, then send shit back down and call up Notgardo.”
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
So you’re saying their taking shit, mixing it vigorously with water, and then throwing it at a tefflon wall to see what sticks?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 14, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Better than stick w/ the beterans
Which is more like chasing turds around the toilet with a toothbrush.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 14, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
beterans = veterans
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 14, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, this.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 14, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Feeling the Pain
Multi-Home Run Games-
Giants: 13 (16th)
3 Homer Games-
Giants: 1 (16th)
Games with 25 or more Total Bases-
Giants: 1 (16th)
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 14, 2008 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants starters yielded only 53 Home Runs, 2nd lowest in the leasgue.
DAMN YOU PAT MISCH!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
Pitches Per Inning
Cain: 16.4
Lincecum: 16.2
Sanchez: 17.4
Zito: 18.8
Correia: 16.7
Wilson: 19.3
Walker: 15.9
Organizational Philosophy?
When we aren’t nibbling, it’s because we are throwing 0-2 meatballs.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
Cain is only third best in PPI. Like we needed more proof that he’s a #3 pitcher at best.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
FWIW
Cain is ranked, by Fangraphs, as the 45th best starting pitcher in the ML by WPA.
That officially makes him good enough to be a #2 :)
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 14, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't like WPA
Cain is 24th in FIP. He’s a #1.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
I agree with this. FIP is more stable than WPA.
Doesn’t WPA hold Matt Cain responsible for the dastardly defensive doings of Ray Durham, and for Fred Lewis choosing not to catch the ball with two hands?
you can't block the Bocock
Yeah, probably.
Split the difference, 34.5
2!AT BEST!
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 14, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
WPA does hold Cain responsible for the defensive shortcomings
by silentearth36 on Jul 14, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Just wondering, but does anyone know why Sanchez’s nickname is “dirty”? I mean, unless it means what I’m thinking it means.. then, lol.
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
You got it:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dirty%2Bsanchez
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 14, 2008 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
...
ew?
I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..
It's not Dirty
it’s Durty.
Because if you spell it wrong you can trademark it.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 14, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it’s gross, but it can also be taken as “wow that’s some filthy stuff he’s throwing.” It’s funny when Grant makes the poopface graphics for the site whenever Jonathan starts, though.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 14, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I can never pull off combos. Once it gets more difficult than Up-A-A-B-B, I’m screwed.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 14, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I was always a button masher myself. Worked well enough for me.
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 14, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
PROTIP:
To defeat Alacius, use BREAKER on his nipple until he is dead.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 14, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ulti-Purple-Nurple
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 15, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always called it a ‘filthy’ Sanchez… not that I would know what any of that sort of thing means, of course…
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 14, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I thank yeh. Heh.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 14, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I will throw in a serious comment:
the HBP stat is interesting, and as I sit back and think about it I would concur the the starting 3 have really opted to go outside to hitters on 0-2 and 1-2 counts. This is just my unquantified observation, but this stat backs it up.
I wonder why – throw the heat inside guys, break some bats and back em up.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
Puzzles me too
Molina, 23 HBP, 265 non-IBB (1:11.5)
Holm, 7 HBP, 75 non-IBB (1:10.7)
Alfonzo, 2 HBP, 10 non-IBB (1:5)
Starters, 13 HBP, 234 non-IBB (1:18)
Blowpen, 19 HBP, 116 non-IBB (1:6.1)
So, it’s not catcher-specific although it could still be an organizational philosophy on game-calling. Wondering if it’s not some reflection of the “pitch to contact:” idea. If you’re going to try to let the bad guys put the bat on the ball, away and down is the place to do it. Keeps the ball in the yard…
And FYI, The Lynx is tied for second in the league with 11 wild pitches, Durty is tied for 6th.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 14, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
If your target is down and away
And you miss, its likely to end up in the dirt.
Target up and in missing is likely to end up over the plate.
It’s a lot harder to drive a mistake in the dirt over the fence.
Might have something to do with the lowest # of HR in the league (altho we seem to have a propensity towards giving up no-namer HR’s on 0-2 counts)
Who wants to take a look at 0-2 and 1-2 locations from durty caincecum using pitch/Fx?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 14, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Since this is a fun facts thread
Omar Vizquel 151 ABs14 runs
Rich Aurilla 249 ABs 17 runs
Manny Burriss 112 ABs 16 runs (solid 7 SBs as well)
More ABs for Manny please!
Lince-"cum"
I called his change a “cumball”. Gross and terrible I know, but good thing no one around here judges people on their handle…right?
Well it is a pretty nasty changeup, and the concept of smearing a baseball with semen and throwing it at someone is also nasty, so it works for me.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 15, 2008 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Me too.
That, and the color of their skin.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 15, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m pale and don’t tan easily. Please be gentle.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
lol, that means you’re STUPID!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 15, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Emmanuel Burriss
vs RHP as LH .215/.292/.231/.522 (72 PA)
vs LHP as RH .383/.423/.489/.912 (55 PA)
FLaiL!
Seems it might be worth shutting him down as a switch hitter and seeing how he matches up as a righty against righties.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
Switch-hitting = not that good a lot of the times.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
But always shiny
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 15, 2008 3:23 AM PDT up reply actions
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