Heard through the grapevine
by erik on Jul 12, 2008 8:38 PM PDT
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I'm sure I'm going to sound like some weird person who likes to spread internet gossip in order to get attention--but I assure you I'm not. I've been told by an insider in the DR that the Giants have signed 16 year old Dominican OF Rafael Rodriguez. He's been compared to Dave Winfield, at least for physicality. His power and speed are 70's on the 20-80 scale, but his ability to make consistent contact is questionable. He signed for $2.55 M, and I'm told the Cardinals were right there.
There's another rumor the Cards suprassed the Giants offer and are giving him $3.3 M, but I can't verify that yet. Anyway, take it fwiw.
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It’s already midnight in the Dominican, so perhaps we’ll find out soon. Futureredbirds.net has been covering it.
by Dan from NM on Jul 12, 2008 9:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess your insider reads ESPN. I hope the Cards don’t steal him though.
by Natto on Jul 12, 2008 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think if this fellow doesn’t break his arm patting himself on the back about being OMG BEST FAN IN BEISBOL he can be okay.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 12, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we finally closed on him? Is the $3.3 mil indicative of his talent being bigger than Villalona or is that just the inflation talking?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 12, 2008 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Inflation, as well as bidding wars caused by dick head agents (cough cough Scott Boras cough cough)
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 12, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will shit bricks if he goes to the Cards...
I was really looking forward to the idea of 2 young Dominican phenoms…
by boonitez on Jul 13, 2008 12:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only bad news is that Rodriguez also compares to failed Dodger prospect Joel Guzman. One of the many comparisons that have been made to him.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 13, 2008 1:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Article I found
it also talks about the A’s signing Inoa, but does an age comparison of current prospects, along with Villalona and Rodriguez.
by silentearth36 on Jul 13, 2008 2:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the ages are based on the 2012 season
by silentearth36 on Jul 13, 2008 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That 2012 roster looked beautiful.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jul 13, 2008 4:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It brought tears to my eyes reading it.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 13, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPNDeportes
Said:
(Scroll down to rankings)
Rafael Rodriguez OF 16 (N/A) Dominican Republic
Comment: To many, he is a duplicate of Vladimir Guerrero because of his size and power with the bat. Rodriguez can work the entire outfield and drive the ball anywhere. He has reportedly accepted an offer from the San Francisco Giants worth $2.5 million.
this was back on June 12th, but who knows…
by silentearth36 on Jul 13, 2008 2:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vladimir Guerrero?
*______*
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 13, 2008 5:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s hope he’s Vlad without the back problems and declining power.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 13, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s wrong with Vlad? He’s a great player.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jul 13, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s supposed to be a stars in my eyes face.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 13, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jul 13, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what date are they actually allowed to sign him?
don’t we have to wait until he turns 16 or something?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jul 13, 2008 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be in the cryofreezer with the head of Ted Williams
awaitin’ fo’ 201x.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 13, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
w00t!!!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jul 13, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That 2012 roster
could just as easily had Schierholtz in RF and Rodriguez in LF, with Freddie in CF. And I think by then, we’ll also have a decent 3B candidate as well. That 2012 rotation is the optimum we could expect, and it doesn’t even include Sosa.
Even after the Giants shower Cain, Lincecum, and Sanchez with longer term deals with higher $$$, that entire team a decade later would probably have a payroll no higher than about the $90 million figure during the Bonds years.
Meet my three little friends: Timmy, Dirty, and Cain
by Buck Henry on Jul 13, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and would be even less likely to play cf in 2012
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
by Azmanz on Jul 13, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rafael Rodriguez
I wouldn’t get too excited about him. He’s definitely not in the class of Big V who had the tools and an advanced approach for his age. I’ve still yet to read that someone is a better position prospect to come out of the DR since we signed Big V. Looks like for once we got in while the market was good.
From what I read, RR is pretty much pure projection based on foot and bat speed. As a prospect compare to Wendell Fairley, physically gifted but very, very raw.
by Change Up on Jul 13, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
RR is very raw, much more so than Villalona. He is all projection to be sure.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 13, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
speed
IIRC, villalona was said to have a lot of speed. His agent even tried to sell him as a future 40/40 guy. Of course, that’s just promoting his client, but still… I guess he gained some weight, but now it seems like everybody’s saying he’s big and slow. Hopefully Rodriguez can keep his speed.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on Jul 13, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Big V seemed to get down the line pretty fast on his comebacker to the pitcher. Not bad for a fat boy anyway.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 13, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I told you guys
This groundskeeper told me
Seriously, I hadn’t read that rumor on ESPN, so I could see how that looks kinda goofy. I’ve been talking to a guy over there, he’s no groundskeeper…although hey, maybe he worked his way up. heh.. I also am the writer of futureredbirds.net.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."
by erik on Jul 13, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
erik
I’ve heard some mumbling that the redbirds might make a run at Yorman, but I wasn’t sure if the people I heard it from weren’t just confusing the Rafael and Yorman. Have you heard anything in regard to the redbirds and Yorman?
by haverecords on Jul 13, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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