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by Natto on Jul 10, 2008 12:35 PM PDT
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That must have been some med school
Did your dad also take the class in which you learn how to make a positive diagnosis just by watching 45 minutes of video taken by the family of someone in a persistent vegetative state? Because no other doctor seems to have taken that class besides bill frist, either.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 10, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Perfect diagnosis.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 10, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't even know him
and I say he’s REALLY a d-bag..
by bondslegend on Jul 10, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
This story seems pretty credible.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
Who is the fifth doctor?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
TH3E GIANTS DONT SCORE A LOT OF RUNS LOL
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
Quick, Trade Brian Wilson
We’ve got plenty of young guys who can step right in!
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions
fuckin fernando tatis?
really? I hate this shit.
Its like when the warrios allow scrubs like pargo to light them up.
Someone get Damon Minor's agent on the phone stat!
by fanofvanlandingham on Jul 10, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions
not watching
did tatis do that little dance as he crossed homeplate again?
JINX NEW GAME THREAD
Way to go, Natto.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
PS
Don’t we have some guy named Yabu, who has shown to be pretty good in these long releif situations?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
yeah? anything you'd like to share with us?
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 10, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Or, alternatively
Pound in the ass and tell.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You, a gentleman? Based on what Yabu was telling me, I wouldn’t call you gentle.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
or the second part
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY????
...the hell is Romo in the game in a 3-3 game?
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
Because he has 5 innings of ML experience
And it is a high leverage situation.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And he’ll be there for the next 8 batters.
BEFORE somebody starts to warm up in the bullpen.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Crash Rowand
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 10, 2008 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
Your job to lose Manny
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 10, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently
Denker was the glue holding this game together.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 10, 2008 12:42 PM PDT reply actions
What, lunch before 3? I just had breakfast!
I need a new schedule….
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
and last night we get killed by a guy who the Mets picked up after he hit .160 and raped an underage girl
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
I hate this fucking tecate commercial
Which is funny, because I hated that last tecate commercial, also.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
I just don’t understand the point of making commercials that basically say “you can only drink this if you’re mexican.”
IT’S BAD MARKETING.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember back in April
when our bullpen was lights-out? That was awesome.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Remember
Merkin Valdez?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Only after they turned the lights on could we see that they actually sucked.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, it's lunchtime
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
Lunch before 3??? I just had breakfast!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
this is an 0-6 road trip. It’s probably better that way for the long term health of this franchise. Saves Sabean and Bochy from doing something stupid.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
What’s the winning lottery number tomorrow night?
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Actually
It is charged to Castillo.
Throwing in the dirt = thrower error.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'mg just going off what they are saying on the Radio
So Blame them
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the ball was low, but very playable.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Upon review, Bowker was not positioned well to receive the ball.
But I still want to blame Castillo.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 10, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So Castillo stops the ball, but then the throw goes wonky (I don’t know who to blame).
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
That was all Bowker.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Throw it too him, castillo
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to the last two games, but I refused to sit through another one of these. I won’t waste any more money on this team.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
sounds like the wheels are kinda comin' off
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 10, 2008 12:52 PM PDT reply actions
Dude, the wheels are still in San Francisco
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Does it sound like fail?
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 10, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
There were wheels? I thought it was just the blocks starting to crumble.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
actually those cars can hit with risp
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 10, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s games like this where you look at them and think, “how could anyone possibly call this club a contender? or think they were in contention for anything other than a top 10 draft pick?”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Exactly! I hate the talk of being in contention. The Giants are NOT in contention.
Blow up the team now, and seriously rebuild. None of this half-assed kinda-sorta rebuilding. Just tear it down, boys.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Jul 10, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
How many games back are the Giants for that #1?
by chilibean_3 on Jul 10, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s games like these that those people clearly are not watching.
Which is weird, because these games are almost 60% of our schedule.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Not just contend, but the level of monumental failure the team would achieve in the playoffs if somehow they won this cripplefight of a division…that itself should be enough to say no.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey!
Don’t call this division a cripplefight. It’s an insult to crippled people.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Hang on, I’ll get my publicist to issue an apology.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I shudder to think of what kind of humiliation the team would be subjected to in a playoff series.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
probably
Kind of like the A’s
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is PRECISELY why I call it the TempestTeapot.
A pennant is NOT what we want. Not unless we’re masochists circa …uh , whenever the Earthquake Series was (It’s friggin’ midnight – 30 , you want dates?)
Wasn’t it said about that Series that the quake was a result of an agreement btw Roger Craig and God?
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 11, 2008 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Innings like this
aren’t making me feel any better about Taschner, either.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Taschner has been awful in this series. He must not want to be traded.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
Him
And everyone else
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Team Chemistry Question
I had a brief discussion of this on my site, but do you guys believe in it? And if so, isn’t this years Giants supposed to be the most TEAM CHEMISTRY oriented team ever in recent memory?
If chemistry really existed (and had a tangible impact on a team) shouldn’t we be a lot better now that big bad Barry Bonds is gone?
Talk amongst yourselves.
Bonds
Is the poster child for chemistry in baseball, so no – that doesn’t make any sense.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
In other words:
Winning -> Good Chemistry
BUT
Winning =/= Good Chemistry
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The way I see it...
Better team =>happier players=>better team chemistry=>people claiming that team is better because of team chemistry.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
I don't know
It’s a mixed bag. The Yankees teams in the 70s HATED each other and they won a few World Series. Plenty of teams with great chemistry finish last.
Grant had an excellent post on this subject a few months ago that I’m far too lazy to look up or link to.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
oh the giants ARE way better. haven’t you been paying attention? They’re in contention for 1st in the NLW.
Castillo hits doubles.
Unlike those pansy other divisions
EVERYBODY in the NL West TempestTeapot is in contention!
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 11, 2008 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe that team chemistry only makes a difference for very good teams, and even then not significantly so. It can put a team over the top, but success begins and ends with talent.
I also believe that winning breeds chemistry, so most very good teams will exhibit it by default, again making it a less significant factor in anything. Likewise, losing breeds bad chemistry. We’ve seen it happen.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
2004 Red Sox: Perfect example
Had enough talent to get to where they were. Needed the chemistry to come back against the Yankees.
also needed Mariano Rivera to melt down.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
And good talent = winning, so chemistry is just another word for talent? Which you can measure, unlike the nebulous team chemistry phrase.
I think “Good Talent -> Winning -> Good Chemistry” is a closer approximation, though still visibly oversimplified.
More often than not, Good Chemistry is the end result, not the starting point. And I think that Good Chemistry is nebulous by nature. It’s most often the intuitive, perhaps visual result of other things going right. And those other things aren’t always the same things. So much of the time instead of saying that “these things went right, so the team is good,” we say “the team is good because the chemistry is there.”
It’s the same kind of false connection that makes us say things like “This team is good because they made the playoffs.” Taking the result and mistaking it for the cause.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Team chemistry = winning?
Winning = team chemistry?
by chilibean_3 on Jul 10, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Team Chemistry is crap.
Someone mentioned the 1970s Yankees who had horrible chemistry yet still won WS, and I would add the Oakland Atleticos of the early 1970s who won WS despite horrible chemistry. (Hmm, common denominator: Reggie Jackson. Coincidence? Discuss.) Frankly, the 2002 Giants didn’t have excellent chemistry, and came within a few lucky breaks of… well, nevermind that.
The ingredients of a championship team are: talented players at the key positions + clear strategy that everyone on the team buys into and works to support + luck. (And I would be open to other characterizations as well.) Chemistry is nice for the players who have to spend 7 straight months together, and it can make for a nice story or feeling among the fans, but it’s not necessary to winning and it’s not necessary to fan enjoyment.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 10, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Reginald Martinez Jackson
(I had his rookie card before this card thing exploded. By that time I had tossed ‘em in the trash)
“I am the straw that stirs the drink.”
He also had a candy bar named after him , and one of the Yankees (Munson?) said it was the only candy bar that “when you opened it it told you how good it is.”
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 11, 2008 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
GREAT line, re the candy bar.
I had forgotten that line. Hysterical. I don’t recall that it was from Munson, and would be surprised that Munson would be that witty (not to say he wasn’t funny, because he was, but that line just has more wit than I would attribute to him).
Condolences on the tragic and senseless loss of RMJ’s rookie card.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 11, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Mets have as many hits today as the Giants have in the entire series.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
RALY WYNN
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyways...
Lewis>Bowker. Bowker has a bit more power. Lewis has much better plate discipline. Lewis is probably better defensively (Bowker’s OF defense has been described as “adequate at best” ).
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
Sometimes Lewis has too much plate discipline. What was that stat for his called-third-strikes? Something like 37 of 86 strikeouts were on called thirds?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
I remember seeing him strike out a lot over the weekend. I’ll consolidate my scorecards from the three games I attended and see how many of them were looking.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Wilriv
where’s that joint now?
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 10, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions
I’ve got one in my elbow, but you can’t have it.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Four runs down and our big FA signing swings at ball four. Yay, let me go vote for him for the all star team.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
Vote for Row!
He sure convinced me with that at bat.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 10, 2008 1:03 PM PDT reply actions
Alfonso is going to hit a 3 run HR right here
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
Bowker>Lewis
When you talk about plate discipline, you’re forgetting that one is a kid with no AAA experience, and the other was down there for years. Lewis is probably as good as he’s going to get, while Bowker should only improve.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
Also
Bowker is 24, Lewis is 27.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed it, what happened?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, but how - he ran to 2nd on a groundball right?
What else was he supposed to do…
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Notgardo=Never due
What was the thinking behind bringing him up and sending Holm down?? Was Holm really that bad?? No. Is Alfonzo?? Yes.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
Myth 1:
Notgardo can hit.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven't had this often
but Notgardo really is pissing me off
He just looks worthless up there
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
huh?
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 10, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Edgardo was a better player than Giants’ fans gave him credit for. Eliezer is a waste.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
Edgardo was a better player than the Giants' fans ever got to see.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 10, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, so you have the joint.
"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"
by The Gene Hackman on Jul 10, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Bring in Wilson
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 10, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Osiris...
is the Egyptian god of life, death, and fertility. Funny, after the 4th of July I thought he was the God of staying into long, giving up hits
If you close your eyes at the start of the innings where the Mets are batting, then open them really quickly, you’ll discover there’s a runner on 2nd or 3rd.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Walking guys intentionally when down by 4 in the 8th?
Cmon guys
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
It's already over.
Our brains just haven’t processed it yet.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 10, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
who's the big winner?
cumball’s the big winner!
I’m assuming that’s a play on Lincecum’s name, and not some gross porn reference.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Way too many pitches in that at bat.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 10, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
Is it wrong
to find it humorous to hear guys talk about other guys’ powerful builds?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
I couldn’t do any worse than Castill-no.
And I did just get a new glove. Gamer!
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
Well that was stupid and depressing. If we’re this bad against a struggling team what do we have to expect against the Cubs?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions
A few homeruns off Marmol… but not much else.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey everyone
We’re only 6 1/2 out of first place, and if the Brewers hold on to beat the Rox, we’ll still be in 3rd place!
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
What a waste of three runs
This game would’ve been more entertaining with another pathetic shutout.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 10, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions
We'll be back in the playoffs
Contenders!
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
gonna miss it
that’s where i went to my first big league games as a kid. it was a dump, but it still has a special place in my heart.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Looks more like water retention
Everybody looks bloated and listless
I did too
Then I wasted seven on the computer. But it was angstless.
NL West TempestTeapot - An ENTIRE DIVISION under .500!
by victor frankenstein on Jul 11, 2008 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
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