More Roster Moves
by KCE on Jul 1, 2008 4:28 PM PDT
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Sadler & Holm down, Matos & Notgardo up:
More roster changes
The Giants made a couple of moves today. They optioned catcher Steve Holm and reliever Billy Sadler to Triple-A Fresno and recalled catcher Eliezer Alfonzo from Fresno and right-handed reliever Osiris Matos from Double-A Connecticut.
The catching move surprises me a little. The brass had been talking up Holm all season and were not happy with Alfonzo's performance or conditioning this spring. Plus, Alfonzo just served a 50-game suspension for violating baseball's drug policy.
Matos, 23, had a 1.23 ERA in 27 games for the Defenders, with 11 walks and 37 strikeouts in 36 2/3 innings. Sadler sealed his fate Monday when he walked the bases loaded before allowing Mark DeRosa's grand slam.
By the way, Vinnie Chulk cleared waivers and the Giants outrighted him to Fresno.
Posted By: Henry Schulman (Email) | Jul 01 at 04:08 PM
I feel kind of bad for Holm.
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Intersting to see Osiris Matos get the call….I had pencilled Anubis Rodriguez for that roster spot.
by biff pocoroba on Jul 1, 2008 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, with Horus Fernandez having an underwhelming season, he would have been the obvious choice.
Congratulations to the All-Father! I’m so proud.
All-Father Watch: 1.23 ERA, 8 saves, 0.98 WHIP, 37 Ks in 36 2/3 IP
by EliminateMe on Jul 1, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s give Osiris a pharoah shot, first.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 1, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anck Su Namun! Anck Su Namun!
"Mow bwiefings?" "More briefings."
by stobgopper on Jul 1, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So… you excited about The Mummy 3? I know I am! (irrational Brendan Fraser fanboy)
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 3:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t aware that Brendan Fraser still had fans.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com and on it I make jokes about things.
by groug on Jul 2, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t help it. Just because he’s made a lot of crap doesn’t stop me from enjoying it…
Plus, he was good in The Quiet American.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose you’re going to see Journey to the Center of the Earth in 3D too.
by Natto on Jul 2, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would, but it’s a movie that costs MORE than a movie, and movies already cost a lot, so I won’t.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it costs a lot
Have you seen the previews? There’s quite a bit of action on screen there, and it must have been murder piecing together scenes from so many subterranian locations. The special equipment needed to film so close to an erupting volcano…the multiple cameras needed to capture that perfect menacing look of the prehistoric cave-shark…and can you imagine the costs alone of shipping dinosaurs to the film site at the center of the earth?
by biff pocoroba on Jul 2, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t even ask how much they spent on the catering.
The All-Father is now a Giant!
by EliminateMe on Jul 2, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, let's give him the chance to develop his cheops.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New bumper sticker
Ankh if you’re a Matos fan!
2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!
by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re certainly not Shai!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 2, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His walk-up music: "King Tut"?
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 2, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In any case
I’m sure he’s Basting in the glory of being a major leaguer.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
by zenbitz on Jul 2, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So know you’re suffering from the heartbreak of Osiris?
2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!
by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought
Chulk was all “pshhhh” to going to fresno? something about opting out?
by Giant Voodoo on Jul 1, 2008 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Thought he could refuse the assignment.
Also: Kinda fucked for Holm, no? Kind of a wasted half-year for him.
yay, All-Father, tho!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jul 1, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasted development time for position prospects is the Giants Speciality
Only 890 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jul 1, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
image is large and annoying
so hotlinked
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h147/monkeyliz/Steve-Holt.gif
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jul 1, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't consider Holm a prospect
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jul 1, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
Only 890 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jul 1, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasted half year of making $350K and traveling around as a big leaguer. Poor fella.
by mxmob33 on Jul 1, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So then he made roughly $175K? How does that work, exactly?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I’d guess he’s pretty thankful for the way things fell into place for him making the big club out of ST more than totally dejected.
Hopefully, he’s more motivated than ever and believes he has a future on a big-league club.
2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!
by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as for the others
Holm: That sucks man, at least you get regular at bats now.
Sadler: when the L screen isnt in front of you stop throwing BP.
Notgardo: drink your milk, i hear that has steroids too.
by Giant Voodoo on Jul 1, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m all choked up.
All-Father Watch: 1.23 ERA, 8 saves, 0.98 WHIP, 37 Ks in 36 2/3 IP
by EliminateMe on Jul 1, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve even updated my signature in celebration!
The All-Father is now a Giant!
by EliminateMe on Jul 1, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get why they sent Holm down, because he wasn’t playing?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jul 1, 2008 4:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe Alfonzo is just better than him
by superk1ng on Jul 1, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe our GM is just a shithead and doesn't know what he's doing?
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on Jul 1, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we probably shouldn't take that one off the table just yet, huh.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 1, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mother was wrong. Cheaters do prosper.
by rellubcat on Jul 1, 2008 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Surprised on Holm also
He has been in an extended slump at the plate, but even so he’s got a .321 OBP, which looks positively lofty compared to Alfonzo’s.
Maybe some wires got crossed in the front office. “Remember that guy who used to hit home runs for us? You know, the one involved in the PED scandal? We should bring him back.”
All-Father Watch: 1.23 ERA, 8 saves, 0.98 WHIP, 37 Ks in 36 2/3 IP
by EliminateMe on Jul 1, 2008 4:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Better catchers on the way?
Hopefully with Pablo Sandoval and (probably) Buster Posey in the system, we’ll have better options to back up and eventually replace Bengie than Alfonzo and Holm…
by giantfan5 on Jul 1, 2008 5:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget G. Rod…he’s another career minor leaguer that’s part of our squad.
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on Jul 1, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sucks about Holm, but yay for Matos!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 1, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting about Holm.
I wonder if it means there is something afoot.
I thought Sadler had promise – but he needs to figure out how to throw strikes.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 1, 2008 5:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holm
I can’t see that Holm has any complaints. He had his ticket punched—he made the majors even though no one would have predicted it a year ago. Now he goes down and plays regularly at Fresno. If he does well, he’s in a good position to catch on as backup for some other team that’s worse off than we are in terms of catching prospects.
by NearestNorwich on Jul 1, 2008 5:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holm has struggled for the past 2 months. Pretty indifferent about him all the way around. A backup catcher being demoted for a backup catcher.
Glad to see Matos. I think he should have been on the ML squad earlier.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 1, 2008 5:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sadler
he’s been getting shelled. Hopefully, he’ll regroup in Fresno and harness his stuff. He’ll be back up eventually.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2008 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
moves
Reasons: Alfonzo is a better hitter with more power than Holm… he also has a stronger arm, though is not as good a receiver. Also… Alfonzo is squaring up everything right now… Holm is not and has not for the last month. Sadler needs to mature and gain better command of outstanding stuff. I’ve never seen Matos throw, but his stats are good
by grizzled on Jul 1, 2008 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh… Eliezer for Holm is kind of an even swap, after I looked at the numbers. Holm has a much better approach, but makes worse contact and has negative power, and Eliezer’s moderate power acts a great equalizer for his completely deficient OBP skillz (though I would argue that his “power” is a little misleading if you’re thinking HRs… he’s much more of a doubles guy than a bleachers guy, except for a kind of flukey 300 ABs in 2006).
And at LEAST, this will make tk happy.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 3:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Notgardo>>>>Holm
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Jul 2, 2008 7:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stop crying, my son.
Remember, this is the best move for the team. One day we’ll see each other again, I promise. Until then, we will never forget your name’s striking reseblence to a fictional egotistical high schooler.
Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!
by UnleashTheGore on Jul 2, 2008 8:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or your late inning pinch hit 2 run Jack
That made us all fall in love with you the first time.
Keep working on the Mustache!
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 2, 2008 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d much rather have Holm as the backup catcher. Notgardo is an awful catcher, and is actually quite painful to watch behind the plate. I don’t get this move.
Kinda sad to see Sadler get sent down. He had a couple of bad outings, but seems to have a bright future. Excited to see Matos, however.
F___ Vinnie Chulk.
by tyrannoman on Jul 2, 2008 8:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m still giving Chulk the benefit of the doubt that he’s not fully recovered from that tobacco-arm thing. He never did look like himself after coming back.
2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!
by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but was pre-Skol Chulk anything to write holm about? (see that funny pun? Laugh damn you!)
by tyrannoman on Jul 2, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for the first part of this year
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 2, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it possible
They are bringing up Notgardo to showcase him a little at the ML level in advance of the trade deadline?
Meet my three little friends: Timmy, Dirty, and Cain
by Buck Henry on Jul 2, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that’s positive thinking! I really can’t imagine who would want him, though.
by tyrannoman on Jul 2, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How’s Sanchez’s English? I honestly don’t know, since I’ve never seen (or, you know, heard) him speak. Could this maybe (extreme blind optimism here, absolutely) be a precursor to trading Molina?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BMoney is a keeper
Jonathan Sanchez, like most native born Puerto Ricans, prefer to speak their native language of Spanish. Sanchez does speak English with a accent.
by wilriv21 on Jul 2, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if the Giants want a Spanish speaking catcher on the roster for Sanchez’s sake, does it not follow that by an extremely optimistic line of thinking that bring up Eliezer Alfonzo would be a move to make sure that there is one on the roster when the optimistically impending Molina trade goes down?
Part of the optimism is expecting to get something decent back for Molina.
I hope it’s extremely clear by now how unlikely I feel this suggestion is. I just want to establish whether or not the possibility is even remotely realistic.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Alfonzo has served his time for his crime and is now ready to return. Alfonzo provides a power bat to the Giants that Holm does not.
by wilriv21 on Jul 2, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand. I was just throwing my head in the speculative clouds for a bit. It doesn’t happen much.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did go to school in Columbus, Ohio for three years. I’m guessing he picked up more than a few words of English.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on Jul 2, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, his post-game interview the other night was the first time I heard him talk. He speaks with an accent, but he’s very easy to understand.
Of note: He’s one of those guys whose lips barely move when he talks.
2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!
by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So basically, my wishful thinking is just nothing more than REALLY wishful thinking.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 2, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who knew?
So Bochy says he will keep Manny Burris in mind for emergency catcher.
by wilriv21 on Jul 2, 2008 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweet!
I love bizzaro baseball. I want to see Noah Lowry play RF again.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jul 2, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need to hurry up and sign Buster Posey…he can play all nine positions!
The All-Father is now a Giant!
by EliminateMe on Jul 2, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mom does not approve
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 2, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s so funny! As I’ve mentioned before, I coach Little League and there are quite a few moms who don’t want their kid to play catcher. Goofus Jr ended up being a catcher mainly because a few years ago: a) He liked getting dirty, b) He wasn’t scared of the ball or the batter and c) His mom didn’t complain.
2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!
by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A woman that didn't complain
Sounds like a keeper
by wilriv21 on Jul 2, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, his mom was an old softball catcher, so she was proud, although we both worried when he had a concussion this season after taking a couple of foul tips of his mask. (Eerily similar to Matheny’s ordeal, though not as severe; he was dizzy and temporary loss of hearing.)
2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!
by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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