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Sanchez for Rios? Huh?

Sorry to rehash Alex Rios again, but I stumbled across this in SFGATE (look below). I never heard Sanchez for Rios rumors, so I think Schulman is wrong here. That being said, I'd consider trading Sanchez for a Rios type player. Personally, I'd prefer a player with more power and less speed, but that's definitely a deal I would have been open to

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/01/SPAI11HI90.DTL

How grateful are Giants fans that general manager Brian Sabean did not say yes to Toronto and send Jonathan Sanchez to the Jays for outfielder Alex Rios? Sanchez continues to be in high demand, but it will take much more than a Rios type now to get Sanchez. For the record, the 25-year-old lefty prefers to stay put.

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Just to be clear

All I had heard was Lincecum for RIos rumors (with a dash of Cain) this past offseason and nothing about Sanchez for Rios. Sanchez for Rios would have been met with enthusiasm IMO

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by NeifiChicken on Jul 1, 2008 4:04 PM PDT   0 recs

Zenbitz... did you approve this fanpost???

I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 1, 2008 4:05 PM PDT   0 recs

i'm sorry

was it already posted? I checked to see, but saw nothing

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by NeifiChicken on Jul 1, 2008 4:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

NO way

Please ignore this fan post pending central committee approval!
If you have already read it, please poke out your eyes with a fork.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Jul 1, 2008 4:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I saw this as well

I was going to use it in your Lincecum/Rios post that no matter what is printed or said in the papers, we as outsiders don’t have the faintest idea of what is being discussed and given serious thought. Maybe it was Sanchez all along, since Sabean didn’t address any player by name. We don’t know and we may never know, which is why I didn’t agree with your previous post. This is the absolute last I will post on any Rios related talk, I swear.

by AngelWillSaveUs on Jul 1, 2008 4:21 PM PDT   0 recs

I seem to remember Lincecum being named expressly by Sabean

but maybe not. You are definitely right about the information we are exposed to and just how much of it is speculation.

www.wazzel.com (prove your sports knowledge if you can)

by NeifiChicken on Jul 1, 2008 4:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lincecum was named expressly by Sabean

He said it during an interview w/ the Rzor & Mr. T from the winter meetings. Sabean expressly said that the Jays only wanted Lincecum, and had no interest in either Cain or a package of lesser prospects

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jul 1, 2008 10:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't remember anything about this either

I would have to agree with Mr. Schulman, it’s a good thing he did hang on to Sanchez. If he continues his good pitching throughout this year and through next year as well, he should be a VERY hot commodity. Even hotter than corn right now!

Plus you have to take Cain’s struggles into consideration. No, Cain won’t go all Zito on us, but there’s a possibility (however slight it may be) that he doesn’t have the stuff to be part of the dominating 1-2 playoff punch that we thought he would be. Sanchez could fill that void if he keeps this up for a year or two…and a R/L combo would be even better than a R/R combo.

That being said, I wouldn’t trade any of the Lainchez trio for Rios. Dominating pitchers are too hot of a commodity to be given for just an above-average position player.

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 1, 2008 4:23 PM PDT   0 recs

Hotter than porkbellies?

by tyrannoman on Jul 2, 2008 9:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm

I would have been in favor of this during the offseason. Now, not so much.

by KCE on Jul 1, 2008 4:30 PM PDT   0 recs

I think Schulman made a mistake. Sanchez was never reported to be in the mix; it was between Cain and Lincecum, then changed to Lincecum, IIRC. Or am I totally wrong?

Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.

by Anticon23 on Jul 1, 2008 4:35 PM PDT   0 recs

Sanchez WAS mentioned during the offseason

for Matsui.

Another bullet dodged. Hey maybe this whole “letting young guys get regular playing time” thing that is all the rage with other teams is actually legitimate.

by Giant Voodoo on Jul 1, 2008 4:37 PM PDT   0 recs

but

what about gritty savvy gameritude???

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Jul 1, 2008 4:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks Giant Voodoo. I know I remember that deal being discussed!

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 3, 2008 9:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

As muchas we’ve seen sanchez blossom, and the strides he’s made in bemoing a pitcher and not a thrower, we need to hang onto him for the time being. The guy is a stud.

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jul 1, 2008 4:47 PM PDT   0 recs

If the price is right

I’m perfectly fine with trading Sanchez. I’d trade him for a Matt LaPorta type prospect, or preferably something even better where we can squeeze as much value out of Sanchez as possible

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by NeifiChicken on Jul 1, 2008 4:54 PM PDT   0 recs

I’d still consider trading Sanchez for Rios.

/ducks

by Grant on Jul 1, 2008 5:27 PM PDT   0 recs

absolutely agree

Sanchez can be electric and his fantastic week makes his numbers look even better, but he is just as capable of imploding with poor control.

I’d probably trade him for Alex Rios, although there are plenty of options I prefer to Rios: LaPorta, Delmon Young, and a whole host of packages that provide young offensive depth that is close to the bigs. A nice SS prospect w/ power would be just fantastic, too bad every team feels that way =(

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by NeifiChicken on Jul 1, 2008 5:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I would too.

But if we’re making wishlists, how about a corner infielder for equal or greater value?

by RougeGorrila on Jul 1, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

c'mon Granty

why not let him have another good year and get back more than a Rios?

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 2, 2008 8:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Schulman is getting his rumors mixed up. It was Lincecum for Rios. Lincecum for Encarnacion and Bruce or Votto.

Sanchez for Godzilla.

Sanchez was also rumored in a deal for Manny like 2 years ago I believe.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 1, 2008 5:48 PM PDT   0 recs

Lowry for Milledge!

Bengie Molina: stretching doubles into singles since 1998.

by jasomack on Jul 1, 2008 7:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If it was Sanchez for Rios, Sabean would have done it in a second, and nobody would have disagreed with it. Toronto might make that trade now, but they never would have done it before seeing the 2008 Jonathan Sanchez edition. And needless to say, if Sanchez did what he was doing this year for the Blue Jays, we would all be blaming Dave Righetti and calling for his head.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Jul 1, 2008 6:54 PM PDT   0 recs

I sent an email to Henry Schulman asking for clarification. I’ll let you know if he replies.

2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!

by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 8:06 AM PDT   0 recs

Schulman wrote back

Here’s his reply:

No, that was a mistake on my part. I got it confused with Sanchez for Crede.

By the way, you’re the coolest poster on McCoveyChronicles

I made up the last part.

2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!

by Goofus on Jul 2, 2008 12:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sanchez/Lowry for Crede

I remember these rumors, but not Rios. I also remember that my brother saw something on a White Sox board regarding Timmay for Crede. (This was after the Rios thing had played out, and I informed him that the Sox fans were smoking serious crack)

At the time Crede was an unknown due to his surgery, and we didn’t know Sanchez was going to mature so quickly this year either. But, I thought it would have been a good deal, and am still somewhat if favor of it.

by toofruss on Jul 2, 2008 9:21 AM PDT   0 recs

No.

Getting an older player for Jonathan Sanchez makes no sense IMO unless the guy is a really good player. Joe Crede doesn’t fit that description.

by sharksrog on Jul 2, 2008 5:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

please define "older" for this discussion.

" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.

by daveinexile on Jul 3, 2008 11:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Crede is 30. Sanchez is 25.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Jul 3, 2008 11:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hmm ya and so?
All I wanted was to see what type of “older” player would be considered equitable.

" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.

by daveinexile on Jul 3, 2008 11:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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