Open Draft Day VI
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
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PrintI wonder if Conor Gillaspie's cheeks puff out when he swings.
I'm loving the draft so far. Loving it.
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Not enough Bea Arthur references. By my count, we’re only at 108.
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Whale's Vagina selects John Forsythe, 3B, Arkansas
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions
To be considered a good pick...
Gillaspie only has to surpass Pedro Feliz’ post-Giants career.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
That's what MLB said...
Or did you already know that? ”...hard to profile him anywhere other than as a Bill Mueller-type third baseman.”
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
So I see we've all calmed down on the Posey pick...
I have to admit that I am a little troubled that we drafted two people who don’t project to hit for any power, though.
Well we got some time to chill.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions
Pads select John Forsythe
I hear he’s a Man of Property.
/obscure literary joke.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Gillespie
“Power: He doesn’t have much and doesn’t profile to have much. He’s a base-hit machine.”
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions
so our 2b and SS will be giving us big power numbers?
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's hoping
that Conor Gillaspie is the next Robin Ventura. Let’s get him some boxing lessons, just to be safe.
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
OH NOES!
Will Carroll (2:32:37 PM PT): Just hearing that Buster Posey is standing on that insane number and that while he said all the right things, his “advisors” are saying he’s perfectly willing to stay in Tallahassee if he doesn’t get eight figures.
2009 pick #5A is all right with me, too
..it isn’t like this team is going to contend any time soon.
by wcw on Jun 5, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would he not say that
Before negotiations have even begun.
To say, “Yeah, y’all, I was just kiddin’ abou that 12 mil..haha” right now would be poor negotiating strategy, to put it mildly.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Is this our 2010 or 2011lineup?
LF – Lewis
SS- Burriss
RF – Schierholz
CF – Rowand
1B – Villalona
C – Posey
3B – Gillaspie
2B Noonan
2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!
this
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking more like this
2B – Noonan
LF – Lewis
RF – Schierholtz
1B – Villalona
C – Posey
CF – Rowand
3B – Gillaspie
SS – Burriss
SP – Lincecum
SP – Cain
SP – Bumgardner
SP – Aldrich
SP – Zito
Flaxseed oil dependent
Aldrich?
Did you mean Tim Alderson?
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
Conor Gillaspie! Awesome!
He can rake, and the power will come.
And get this—his father Mark Gillaspie played for Mississippi State in the College World Series two years before Will Clark got there.
Flaxseed oil dependent
Frozen Hot Chocolate
Not worth the 2 hour wait
Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The good news is that we have SOMEONE
at thrid base … he may not be the power bat we all were clamoring for, but he has potential. If he hits .310-.320, Ill be elated.
Cain is Able ...
Would you trade
Pedro Feliz for 3 years at $4-5M per
for
A 10% chance that Connor Gillaspie turns into a useful MLB 3B
.
.
.
Yeah, me too.
Delaying the disappointment: I adopt Hector Sanchez because he's only 17.
How's Gillaspie's Defense?
I was THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jun 5, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions
Thats the real question
Some people arent sold on his ability to stay there. But the general concensus was that he was athletic enough that if someone put the time in there with him, he could improve to league average.
I love the kid … He’s a gamer in a good kind of “not rich aurilia” kind of way
Cain is Able ...
Does anyone else...
...think it is ridiculous that when we draft a guy who leads the NCAA in slugging and is two off the HR lead that we complain about his lack of power????
Don't play a dangerous game.
you have to remember that....
college power doesnt always translate to the big leagues. they use aluminum bats for one. i do think it is overblown though to some extent.
LiNcEcuM and cAiN R STUDS
the stats Hul10 are quoting actually come from the Cape Cod league not the NCAA
which does use wood bats. But of course that league is only a few months long so not the biggest sample size.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 5, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
oh you meant Posey?
That is interesting because that is the exact same thing Gillaspie did in the Cape Cod League last year. Led the league is slugging % and 2 off the league lead in HRs.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 5, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah...
i meant Posey, but I guess the argument stands for both. This projecting for power shit is pretty ridiculous when you’re talking about a guy who is hitting for more power than EVERYONE else in College.
Don't play a dangerous game.
Agreed
Based on what the FO people have said, they really have been putting in a lot of scouting time. They may see power potential after all.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
http://www.capecodbaseball.org/Weekly/Week2007/ThisWeek/thisweek_Awards_Batting.htm
Tore up the capecod league also
Cheese Bitch!
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by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Is That....
my man Dave Winfield ? I love that guy !
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
Saw him play his rookie year growing up in San Diego. Not much to cheer about with Pads, but Winfield was an absolute STUD. As a rookie I watched him throw somebody out trying to tag up from third. The amazing part ? Winfield was standing with his back to wall in RF at “The Murph”
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
Isn't Winfield
...still the only guy to be drafted in all 3 major sports?
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
And isn’t he also the last player other than John Olerud to go straight from the amateurs to the MLB, or am I totally misremembering?
Correct !!
Anyone ?? Bueller ?
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
The Giants Win The Pennant ! (repeat,repeat,repeat)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
Hey guys...
Rangers fan and FSU student/fan… just thought I’d come over and talk about Posey…
You don’t really need me to tell you how awesome he is. The dude has power. He hit 4 HRs in two games on Sunday. I feel like he got one in the game against Tulane on Monday too. In terms of a catcher, I can’t really speak to how he manages a pitcher, but he has got a freakin’ rocket for an arm. He can throw a guy out with the best of them. Threw out some douche from UF by a mile this last weekend.
He definitely gets respect from college pitchers, but when you have the lineup that FSU does (and if you believe in the theory of protection), the guy can take advantage of opportunities. Really good judgment. He doesn’t really strikeout swinging, and he really doesn’t K much at all.
You know the stories, playing all 9 positions in a 7 inning mercy rule game. He can close a game out, etc etc.
The thing I find most interesting, is that both of your top two picks will be here in Tallahassee this weekend in the Super Regional round of the CWS. I’m sure some of your front office / scouting people will be down here in Tally, how often do you get to make one trip, and see your top two picks?
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jun 5, 2008 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah...
one of his HRs this last weekend, was at least 440 feet over the centerfield wall in Dick Howser Stadium here at FSU.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Interesting re: Posey and Gillaspie playing against each other
My parents live in Tallahassee – I’ll have to tell my dad to go to a game if he has a chance and if tickets can be had!
Tickets
Single game tickets are about to go one sale at 6:00pm EST
Go here and you could buy a ticket for him! $12 for the bleacher seats in the sun, so it will be hot but your Dad must know what to expect if he lives in Tallahassee.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Since an airplane trip is out....
I guess I’ll have to set the DVR this weekend :-)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
I love how the FSU guy instinctively called the UF guy a "douche."
College rivalries rule.
Ruben Rivera: Incompetent oaf, or mad genius?
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 5, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
it's so natural...
I had to go back and reread what I wrote, because I didn’t even remember calling that guy a douche!
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
I posted it in open-draft-day-III#6592028. Man that seems like a long time ago. That was this morning right ?
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
””I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t go in the first five picks,” Martin Jr. said. “I’ll tell anybody that will listen: Having been with him for three years, he’s Jason Varitek behind the plate and he’s Derek Jeter as a hitter. I really believe that. He’s that good.” “
and
“As a sophomore, he was the youngest finalist in the history of the Johnny Bench Award, which is given to the top catcher in the nation. “
Okay, I’m completely sold. Great pick.
RE: Posey
1. Will, welcome to post draft posturing. No way he’s going back. There’s absolutely NOTHING he can do to increase his value from where it is right now.
Somewhere in this post we went past 2,000 comments
I was THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jun 5, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
We are going to paying a lot of money to Posey and Giliespe
so don’t expect them to pick somebody who we are going to have to pay more than slot money for.
Jesse English: He is BAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!
if only someone had thought of this before signing Zito..
by wcw on Jun 5, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
according to Keith Law of ESPN, we got two top 20 prospects with our first two picks. That’s definitely a win in my book. I’ll definitely be following the Super Regional in Tallahassee extra close with Gillaspie and Posey to watch.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions
Gillaspie's college stats from this year...
...because they’re just so damn fun to look at—
.425/.510/.706 with 10 HR 38 BB and 22 K in 221 AB. on the basepaths 16 SB in 18 tries. Not half bad. For the 37th overall pick? Damn good.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
So, not to make crazy sounds or whatnot, but we drafted a catcher who leads the nation in average and slugging and is 2 HRs behind the leader. Why shouldn’t we expect some pop from him again?
scouts don't know shit
somebody doing something before is a greater predictor that they’ll do it again then what some cigar-chomping old ass man projects.
Don't play a dangerous game.
aluminum bat. bandbox ballpark.
the scouting is the icing on the cake.
and I like Posey. just not for 40HR.
by wcw on Jun 5, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I'll be the contrarian...
But I don’t see what’s so special about Gillaspie. No power, below-average speed, average arm, limited range, Bill Mueller-type… I mean, I liked Bill Mueller as much as the next guy, but it seems to me that guys like Bill Mueller are a dime a dozen in the amateur draft. Why spend a sandwich pick on someone without any power, speed, arm or range?
Look, I’ll admit that I have absolutely zero faith in Sabean to select good position players, and even less faith in the Giants farm system to develop them. So I’m definitely coming in with a jaundiced eye here. But really, this just looks like another typical Sabean position player pick to me—gritty, scrappy, blue-collar guy, who hits for average and plays the game the right way. A real baseball player! Guys like this have been coming and going in the Giants system for the past 20 years. They hit .300 at every level with an OBP of about .315 and a SLG right around .400. And they never amount to a hill of beans if they ever even make it up to the big club.
Does he at least have some plate discipline? Because if he doesn’t, I’m not even seeing Bill Mueller; I’m seeing Tony Torcato.
Help me understand why I should be excited about this pick. Because I really would like to be!
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
torcato had a chance
the draft is always a crapshoot, especially past the first dozen picks or two
by wcw on Jun 5, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Torcato’s problem was the shoulder surgeries that sapped his power. He wasn’t a big slugger to begin with, and that put him down in Mueller-range but without Mueller’s defensive prowess. He was Dave Magadan at the very most.
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Dave Magadan had great plate discipline and could play decent defense
Torcato was terrible in both of those categories.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
With Sabean...
It hasn’t been a crapshoot. Every single position player pick has been a dead-certain loser.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
er..
..much as I hate the Sabean regime, it did pick Lewis and Schierholtz. Neither is a star. Neither is (or was) a dead-certain loser. Now Jennings, he looked like a stiff on draft day.
by wcw on Jun 5, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis worked out well despite his athleticism, because he actually has plate discipline.
I’m not sold on Schierholtz.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Because they draft for athleticism, NOT PLATE DISCIPLINE
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
that's what i like about this year's draft...
on the surface, anyway, it sounds like both posey and gillaspie might know how to work a count and take a walk. it’s a start.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.codball.com/2007/08/31/who-are-top-prospects-from-the-capes-2007-season/
Baseball America actually ranked him above Posey coming out of the Cod league.
Also, check this out
http://www.capecodbaseball.org/Weekly/Week2007/ThisWeek/thisweek_Awards_Batting.htm
This is using wooden bats.
guys like Bill Mueller are a dime a dozen in the amateur draft.
Not really. I mean, if that were the case, Mueller would be a replacement-level 3B. I’m hoping for an average bat for the position, and I think he’ll move quickly.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t mean that every draft is teeming with future MLB replacement-level 3Bmen all up and down. I mean that when Bill Mueller was taken in the 15th round of the ‘93 draft (pick #414), there was nothing that remarkable about him, and that in every draft there are hundreds of somewhat non-descript players like that who don’t have much in the way of a major league caliber ceiling. The fact that Mueller happened to develop into a credible major leaguer was probably nothing more than luck of the draw.
I’m just not seeing what makes Gillaspie special enough that the Giants would select him with the 37th overall pick. I would think someone selected that high would have a higher ceiling than Gillaspie seems to have. He seems like just another guy to me.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
I have to go with Grant on this one...
Mueller’s Career Line with the Giants…
.290/.370/.400/105
BA/OBP/SLG/OPS+
How long has it been since the Giants have had a 3B put up those numbers over a five year period ? If Gillaspie turns out to Bill Mueller, I’d be pretty damn happy with the pick.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
How long has it been since the Giants have had a 3B put up those numbers over a five year period ?
Eight years?
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Very Nice ! My math skills were off today :-)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
Gillaspie had a .506 obp last year
a .421 average and he led the Cape Cod league (where they use wooden bats) in avg and slugging last year.
He can hit, and he might show more power then people think. Remember these guys are 20-21… no one expects them to reach their peak power potential until 25-28.
And Torcato is a bad comparison because he was a high schooler, hard to project power for highschoolers.
I disagree...
The Giants are second in the league in doubles, second in the league in triples. And yet they are 14th in the league in runs scored and 11th in SLG.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
Because they don’t have the other bats in the line up to drive in Lewis, Burris, and Rowand.
Besides, How many of those “doubles” are BMoney’s ? You have to hit a HR to drive in Bengie from second :-)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
Burris?
He gets on base?
Every team is going to have good hitters and not-so-good hitters, fast baserunners and Bengie. But a team whose “power hitters” provide doubles instead of HRs isn’t going to score as many runs as one that features home run hitters. Because home runs score more runs than doubles (especially if Bengie is on base). That’s the main reason why the Giants are 14th in HRs and 14th in runs scored, and why their doubles and triples hitting prowess doesn’t translate into a lot of runs scored.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
You're Correct of course...
It’s just easier to rail on the Giants :-)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
I like the plate discipline, if he brings it with him to the pros
And I said that without plate discipline (and without power) he could be another Tony Torcato. The scouting report said he doesn’t project for power. I hope you’re right and they are wrong. I do like what I see of his Cape Cod league performance. I’m going to hold on to that and hope that bodes well for him.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
Players like this (experienced college talent) is what you put with the younger prospects from last year. These players may have a label stuck to them already, but their talent could very well exceed that. These are the types of players that advance the farm system to where you could have starters by the mid-to-end part of the 2009 season and real building blocks on-which to set the rest of the foundation. If you think these guys are Tony Torcato, I don’t agree with that in any way. Posey and Gillaspie have both proven they can handle wood bats and some of the best pitching the NCAA can throw at them. This looks as though this team has maybe put some serious coin into scouting and development where it once didn’t and sometimes refused to.
it's always noonan somewhere
Well...
He doesn’t strike out much. 22 strikeouts this year and 38 walks in 57 games. Plus he had 7 HR’s in the Cape Cod League.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Jun 5, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
When are there more picks?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply actions
I had to work. I’m back now
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is a qutoe from the local rag about Wieland.
Wieland, the baseball Player of the Year, was an imposing two-way player in leading Manogue to the state tournament. He went 7-2 with a 2.04 ERA and 115 strikeouts in just 72 innings. He walked 15 batters. At the plate, he hit .556 with 12 homers and a state-record 76 RBIs.Full Article Here
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
more college guys would be awesome too
but i won’t complain if we nab a top hs pitcher. tidrow ftw!
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions
Good risk? Maybe not for the Pirates and their Minor League Pitcher record
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Fresno State's very own Tanner Scheppers!
Well done, kid.
Ruben Rivera: Incompetent oaf, or mad genius?
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 5, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions
Royals select Johnny Something-telli, 2B, some college
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions
Remember when Foppert, Williams, and AInsworth were going to be 1-2-3 for years to come?
Guess we can’t complain too much with Lincecum, Cain, & Sanchez, though.
Philly takes Anthony Gose OF - Bellflower HS
Our pick for Aaron Rowand
Jesse English: He is BAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!
Khalil Greene is disappointed
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me of "Glad Hand" from West Side story
I was in that play in high school. It’s gonna haunt me forever.
Ruben Rivera: Incompetent oaf, or mad genius?
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 5, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I was Action!
True story: Jeff Brantley’s babysitter was Anita, so he came to watch the play. After the play, he asked her, “Man, who was that Action kid? He was awesome!”
Then my 15 minutes expired.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone needed to babysit Jeff Brantley? (ha ha)
I was woefully miscast as Riff, the white gang leader. Yeah, as if I can pull off an urban street tough.
I was Mercutio in Romeo and Juliet that same year. I got really good at dying.
Ruben Rivera: Incompetent oaf, or mad genius?
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 5, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Gillaspie puffs his cheeks
but Ike Davis turns his back to the pitcher when he bats.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Nationals select Destin Hood, OF, AL HS
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
University of Alabama recruit
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Astr-doh's select Joseph Austin, CF, Georgia HS
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:33 PM PDT reply actions
whats the countdown to our next pick? 80 something?
I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken
Just got home
I see we got Posey. Passed on Smoak! After passing on Mills and Heyward last year! What is this organization looking for in power-hitting corner players?
Also: Is this kind of conceding that Jackson WIlliams is a bust? Or just saying that his upside is as a backup catcher? (Yes, I’m still mad about last year’s supplemental round)
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
ooooh A's take Tyson Ross
local Cal product stays… local
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions
War of the Rosses
Ruben Rivera: Incompetent oaf, or mad genius?
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 5, 2008 3:36 PM PDT reply actions
Is Melville still available?
Take him if he falls to the third round?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Bryan Smith (2:24:29 PM PT): San Francisco takes another player in Gillaspie in the sandwich round that’s going to hit for a good average and just a little power. I like Gillaspie quite a bit, though, and I think he’s really going to hit. The Giants really have improved their future today with Gillaspie and Posey.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
I assume that by "player" he means "position player"
It would suck if the fact that we were drafting baseball players was worthy of mention.
Ruben Rivera: Incompetent oaf, or mad genius?
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 5, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
A's are going to win the WS in two years
We have already established that Toronto is going to win next year
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions
Toronto selects David Cooper again, just to make sure
ok… it was Kenneth Wilson, CF, FL HS
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:41 PM PDT reply actions
Chicago Cubs select a Notre Dame football player (again)
I kid. Aaron Shafer, Wichita St, RHP
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:43 PM PDT reply actions
Which players are left that the Board likes?
I well past my range of knowledge…
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Posey most likely Barr's call
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/05/SPS3114218.DTL
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Detroit Tigers select Cody Satterwhite, RHP, Mississippi
Of course, he is a hard-throwing, big, electric-arm guy with delivery issues
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:46 PM PDT reply actions
Mets take a Boricua for Wil
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:47 PM PDT reply actions
still a lot of high upside hs talent....
why isnt galloway gone? chase davidson would be a great pick but I WANT ERIC THAMES!!! HE”S NOT GONE YET
Braves take a Georgia HS player. Shocker.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions
Heyward was the pick I wanted last year
..just because you’re Georgia HS player doesn’t mean you’re not a great pick.
by wcw on Jun 5, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ezekiel Spruill
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men
anyone else
yearning for thames? also i think galloway is falling becuase of signability it looks like and yes sample is still on board
I would like Thames. Even if he becomes a failed ballplayer athlete, I don’t mind, as long as we aren’t drafting guys like that in the 1st round
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
No Way Does Galloway Make it to the Third!
No Way! Don’t Even Say It! Don’t Even Think It! Stop!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
i think wat happened to justin jackson
is happening to galloway scouts have seen him forever and their nit picking
D-Bags select Dirtbag Bryan Shaw, RHP
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:51 PM PDT reply actions
It’s quite lame
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a hard time adjusting away from California Angels, regardless of what a misnomer that was
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
. . . and stupid.
The owner really thinks that this will fool all residents of Los Angeles to flock to the team? Ugh.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
nope...
you have to watch the draftcast or else you post this after other people already know that you’re dumb and wrong… and definitely dumb. Dumbbie
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
7 more!!!
galloway,thames,mellville and sample are on the board still lookin good
on buster's power
call me nuts, but this one at least didn’t look too cheap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFOlIo4OYMQ
and i’m no expert, but the swing looked nice and smooth too
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions
yeah, but that one looked like it would’ve cleared no matter what
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
with wood..
..he might not have gotten the bat head out. Tougher to time.
by wcw on Jun 5, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont know if management is
going to be willing to spend that much though … melville is going to want dollars … couple that with Posey … really?
Cain is Able ...
and Gillaspie
don’t think they are spending that much. It would be one hell of a statement though if they do.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 5, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Red Sox take Derrik Gibson, Delaware HS SS
still available – Melville
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions
We could end up with a Gillaspie and a Galloway?
The 2010 unis are going to have to include a sporran.
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
Buccos select Jordy Mercer, SS, OK ST
Too bad the Pirates aren’t hilariously stupid anymore.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions
ya!!!
ITS GONNA HAPPEN AND TRUE DAT IM GETTING EXCITED as a younger i love this song
Galloway not going to last!
He’s going two picks ago!
NOT GOING TO LAST!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Tyler Sample -- 6'7"
Giving new meaning to the team “Sample size”.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
Where my Hoes at?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 5, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard they’d cleaned up downtown a lot.
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
Great
A five-tool OFer who COULD hit for power and COULD steal bases, and is a good fielder, but who has swing mechanics issues and will be total shite
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
Kieschnick is a potential five-tool corner outfielder who could hit for power and steal a few bases. He plays a fearless outfield, getting to plenty of balls and showing off a good arm at times. The one knock is an issue with his mechanics at the plate that concerns some about his hitting ability at the next level. Still, an aggressive college outfielder - in a weak class of outfielders - who has those tools should get plenty of interest.
Even better - aggressive
We have such a shortage of aggressive hitters
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if Galloway is asking for a lot more than many think he’s worth?
it's always noonan somewhere
Brute and I think this guy could be a steal.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM PDT reply actions
I like that pick a lot
he was #44 on Baseball America’s list and #51 on Keith Law’s list, so seems like good value at #82. Plus he’s a college hitter which are the best group of players to take according to that great Baseball Prospectus study.
NOT a money-saving pick
He was ranked by BA as the #44 prospect (and we got him at 82).
BA also said sandwich-2nd round.
Good pick.
SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!
We picked a guy with power
I like the pick. The Giants have had a nice, conservative draft thus far and I like this pick.
Go Durham, Roberts, Aurilia, Vizquel, Winn, Lowry! The better you do, the quicker we can trade you!
KLaw Report ...
Summary: Kieschnick has first-round ability, but his approach and his results will push him down to the second round. He can run, has a good arm, and plays right field very well. He has some raw power and the strength to hit for more if he learns to keep his weight back better and get his lower half involved when he makes solid contact. Contact, however, is a problem, as his swing isn’t consistent and he’s on his front foot early. He’s an upside play for a team willing to take a shot at handing him to player development to clean him up, but there’s a good chance he turns into a fourth outfielder because he doesn’t hit enough to profile in a corner despite all his other skills.
Cain is Able ...
that sounds to me like a pretty good pick at #82. A project with raw power. There aren’t a lot of sure things at #82.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 5, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
true but ...
when you have a talent like Galloway there, I dont think you can use that as an excuse. Galloway is also a project but offers signifcantly higher upside.
The power potential … its a 55, just above average. Hardly raw power
Cain is Able ...
Meh.
The Giants won’t emphasize plate discipline and won’t develop him. Perhaps another team will end up getting value
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Because we have
proven we are an organization that can bring in guys and develop them.
Cain is Able ...
Next pick
117
Which is 109 + 8. * snickers *
25-34.... But who really cares when you turn a triple play? Right?
After Zito’s start in Florida, someone asked what his pitch count was. Seconds later, a flood of 109s appeared. Thus another running gag is born.
and many subsequent jokes following the flood
25-34.... But who really cares when you turn a triple play? Right?
A's select one of the best names in the draft: Preston Paramore, C, ASU
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 4:08 PM PDT reply actions
Nicknamed Petey.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 5, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
even better, he goes by Petey Paramore (seriously)
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 5, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
"Sounds like a character from a Super Mario game."
—-BaronVonCurrentEvents
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 5, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Petey didn't even have a head!
“HARRY… I took care of it.”
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
Hatteberg was a quality player
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It sounds like the secret identity of a superhero.
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
I know I'm late, but:
Kieschnick sounds pretty good to me. From the looks of it, he’s a high risk/high reward sort of guy – which seems like a good way to go in the third round after picking two fairly polished but relatively unsexy guys with their first two picks.
Kyle Russell
Another outfielder with power drafted by the Dodgers this year. He had a down year, which must have lowered his stock. I wonder what it would have taken to get him with our pick there.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
Braves next
Georgia HS player? Stay tuned…
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 4:14 PM PDT reply actions
I'm a Packers fan
And the draft anlalyzers used that exact same “unsexy” phrase to describe our first pick. I officially don’t like it. Who know how sexy they are? Right?
- waiting for barrage of Anti-Packers insults to rain down *
25-34.... But who really cares when you turn a triple play? Right?
Kevin Goldstein (4:20:18 PM PT): ted (the cubicle): How about Roger Kieschnick—did the Giants go 3 for 3? I saw Baseball America had him at #44.
Believe it or not, the Giants are kicking ass and taking names.
wooot!
by TimLincecumIsGod on Jun 5, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions
double woot!
Kevin Goldstein (4:24:28 PM PT): bravoatoc (Tulsa): So, I know we aren’t near being done, but what are your initial views on who had the best draft and who had the worst? Actually who is having the best draft, the Astros ARE having the worst.
I haven’t had time to digest it all, but as weird as this sounds. I really like the Giants draft.
by TimLincecumIsGod on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Melville in 3rd roud
good idea by the Royals, it will take lots of $$$ tho
Go Durham, Roberts, Aurilia, Vizquel, Winn, Lowry! The better you do, the quicker we can trade you!
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