Open Draft Day III
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
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Welcome, Buster Posey.
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im not liking the 12 million
i know its a negotiating ploy, but damn thats steep
oh, and im adopting him
i give up on adoption, im going back to trying the real way
by Headhunter Rollins on Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM PDT reply actions
What are the rules on this? Said in the last step that I’d like to adopt him if he was available…
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
This doesn’t worry me nearly as much as Matt Cain’s control issues.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
I don’t get why everybody’s going bat nutty that a 23 year old is struggling with his command.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 5, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not just his command
though that’s a big part of it. He’s getting hit more, he’s walking more guys and he’s giving up WAY more HR than he has the last 2 years. It’s because he’s not improving like one would expect, and he’s not even holding steady.
Alonso to Reds
wow, over Smoak. surprising.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
haha, damn
u can have him, ill take the second rounder
i just adopted little buster posey and im so proud...send me my 12 mill now, if'n you please
by Headhunter Rollins on Jun 5, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions
Cincinnati
takes Yonder Alonso – Smoak still out there
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 11:50 AM PDT reply actions
Posey's Profile from BP
3. Buster Posey, C, Florida State
What He Is: An incredibly athletic catcher with a patient approach, decent power, and top-notch defensive potential.
What He’s Not: A true impact player.
In A Perfect World He Becomes: A Gold Glove catcher who hits .270-.290 with 15-20 home runs and 75 walks.
Backup Plan: He’s one of the safest picks around, so you don’t really need one, but he’s a pretty good infielder as well.
Open Issues: He’s still new to catching, so while he has the potential to be great, he’s not there yet. His ultimate power ceiling ranges from just average to well-above, depending on who you talk to.
you should change your handle to
negative nancy
Someone get Damon Minor's agent on the phone stat!
by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 5, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
OMG NO Russell Martin is junk!!!! The Giants would be STUPID to want Russell Martin. They need POWER and they need it RIGHT NOW because we all know the 2011 Giants aren’t going to have power.
I HATE THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Smoak's fallen more than I thought..
..while I didn’t like the position, I think his swing deserved to go higher.
Late 90s Jason Kendall
http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/kendaja01.shtml
go look. go ahead. that OBP is awesome. slugging is above average. and all this as a CATCHER
So does this mean I’ve officially adopted Posey? Can I get a ruling? (And if so, WHOOOO!)
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions
you might have to duke it out with
Headhunter Rollins…see top of thread..
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
I, for one, am psyched. Law had him as the second best overall player in the draft after Tim Beckham, he fits a positional need going forward, he is expected to move relatively quickly, and, umm, I guess his RBI total doesn’t bother me. snort
I wouldn’t have minded Justin Smoak but this is the first time I can remember where the Giants have taken the player left on the board who I wanted most.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
I like the pick. Wanted Smoak too but this draft seems to be deep with college bats that project to first base. Pick up one of those at 37 and I think the Giants are in a way better position then when the day started.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 5, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions
i concede to you giantsfaninexile
ill take supplemental whomever
im adopting "insert 37th pick's name here"
by Headhunter Rollins on Jun 5, 2008 11:53 AM PDT reply actions
Thanks muchly Rollins, I appreciate it – I’m excited. :)
Proud new mom of one Gerald "Buster" Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
You guys are throwing away a great sitcom opportunity.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Jun 5, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It means that we've got two catching prospects
Sandoval is how old?
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
why is everybody so convinced this should mean something about Sandoval?
no MLB team drafts for need, and they especially don’t let their draft strategy because of a kid playing in A-ball
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 5, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
nothing
Pray the team has to pick between the two with Sandoval tearing up the PCL in three years.
Sabes pretty much said a while back that Pablo, unless he totally falls off, will end this season in the PCL
triple A?
Seems a year ahead of schedule. I’d rather jump him to the PCL next spring.
Well, right now he’s producing too much to stay in SJ, and Sabean pretty much came out and said he’s not going to kill his bat and confidence in Dodd
he just had a hot April
monthly wOBA for the last year:
373
356
288
557
363
336
The 557 is April 2008. The remaining months are good, but not stellar. He stays in the Cal League until he starts producing more every month.
Here is a nice puff piece on Posey from ESPN that was written this April.Posey, the consummate student-athlete, key to Florida State’s success.
He can move around and most likely will. He’s only been playing Catcher for one year.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
nothing. he’s probably gonna end up in AAA by the end of next year so he’s far ahead. posey will probably be at low A at the end of next year and high A at the best
Uribe to Thompson to Clark: Don't tinker ever with chance
that's such a great picture of Buster Bluth
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Tobias Funke, I presume?
Lookin’ fine in those denim shorts, you nevernude, you.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
We're getting the band back together!
Maybe Buster can join us too.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
Headlines:
Giants pick Buster Posey; Google Image searches of Buster Bluth rise 1,500%
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Keep him away from the "Lou Seal"
Or we have to attach his glove on that stub
Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm...
I guess it’s not so bad… An infield of AnVil, Noonan, Posey, maybe Culberson at short if he stops sucking, and whoever takes 3rd sounds like it could be pretty decent someday. Anybody know how long it’s supposed to take Posey to break into the bigs?
Buster Posey:
Above average bat speed. oh boy
by positiveuphemism on Jun 5, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions
i was quoting ESPN
it was a stupid pick and I can complain if i want.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 5, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Really? Why?
Proud new mom of one Gerald "Buster" Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Two reasons
1 – he’s not a catcher that does nor project to be average
and
2 – because he looks to be an above-average SS
Those are the two throwaway offense positions, but if you can get some good production, it is bonus. And one looks like a bigger threat than the other.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 5, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
im excited for you:)
hopefully they dont draft ryan leaf with the 37th pick…cause i wont adopt him
im adopting "insert 37th pick's name here"
by Headhunter Rollins on Jun 5, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions
:)
Proud new mom of one Gerald "Buster" Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone will be happy he's dropped this far.
I was really surprised that Cincy took Alonso (and his $7M bonus demands) over Smoak.
Kevin Goldstein (11:40:10 AM PT): Lemme say I think Bryan is WAY low on Posey. Best case scenario is .290/.360/.475 catcher with Gold Glove defense. WAY better than Kendall.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
Smoak will not last 3 more picks
Let alone close to 30
We’ll get someone with power, I imagine, with our next pick. Just not as much.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
Any theories on why Smoak is slipping?
Contract demands? Discovery of the suck gene in his DNA?
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
It is interesting....
Something we don’t know ?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
No it domiate. but extreamly rare.
Thus Sabean likes to collect them.
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
well, i think mayo had him to the nationals at 10 so it’s not a complete surprise, just fit and position, although it’s a little surprising alonso went before him. but many teams seemed to be torn between who was the better prospect between smoak and alonso.
Uribe to Thompson to Clark: Don't tinker ever with chance
it's not what I expected
..too bad we don’t another pick
Kevin Goldstein (11:43:27 AM PT): 5. Giants take Buster Posey. If you heard Bud make the announcement, now you know why he goes by Buster. This is a fantastic pick at five for the Giants. Really great find at five, and I’ll bet anything right now that he doesn’t get $12 million from SF.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
Aaron Crow to Washington
Smoak is the Aaron Rodgers of this draft
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions
hmm could he fall another 25 or so picks please?
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
Buster
People are calling Posey the Ellen Degeneres of this year’s draft. Where the hell does that come from?
He… likes to dance?
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
he...likes chicks?
I like this guy. I don’t even know him and we already share something in common. Maybe I was being too harsh on him.
So with Smoak still on the board, picking him at #5 would have been a reach, correct?
2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!
noooo
it would have been an exciting, switch-hittng, power threat in our lineup in the next year or so.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 5, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not really a 100% rational view
But it is pretty good spin
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
I really don't want the A's to luck into Smoak
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions
I will start drinking if that happens
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
I like the A's
Not like the Giants, but hey, at least it would give me a chance to see the guy mash.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
KG again
Kevin Goldstein (12:05:09 PM PT): Washington takes Crow, and they’ll pay the frieght, and that’s a GREAT pick at 9. Not as great as whoever takes Smoak, but I GUARANTEE that the A’s are holding their breath right now, hoping that Houston and Texas find a way to screw this up.
Bums at 15
please don’t drop to 15 smoak
by positiveuphemism on Jun 5, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions
Ned Colletti will overrule his scouts and select Jackson Williams
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
wheres wallace from asu supposed to go?
isnt he a bay area guy? didnt he triple crown the pac 10 twice? why isnt he higher?
im adopting "insert 37th pick's name here"
by Headhunter Rollins on Jun 5, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
I've been wondering the same thing.
I don’t hear any negatives about him.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Hmmm, I wonder if there's another first rounder in recent memory
whose body scared people off? A right-handed Rainbow-flip-flop wearing pitcher, maybe? Hmmm.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
having seen him in person, he does look like he has a bit of the prince fielder body type going. not that he’s prince fielder now, and i doubt he balloons enough to be fielder in the future, but he does have a very, uh, rotund lower body.
that said, it hasn’t seemed to hold back prince much… or the babe… or any number of other large-ish corner players.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Jun 5, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Houston takes C Jason Castro
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:06 PM PDT reply actions
Now THAT’S a shitty pick
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
If the Giants had taken Castro, I’d have been cursing, too. He’s a good player—sandwich-pick good.
I would have been pissed if they took him in the sandwich round.
If he ever cracks a .300 OBP in the majors, I’ll be surprised.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt he makes the majors
..but these picks are made in the event he can handle it. Remember Jennings?
I thought i heard the name wrong.
Cubbie fan commence with the bitch fest.
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
Another catcher – WTF
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:06 PM PDT reply actions
They're jealous
Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
not Houston either. Smoaks still on the board.
wow. castor this early?
Uribe to Thompson to Clark: Don't tinker ever with chance
Were any of you guys behind this?
Posey’s Wikipedia page is already updated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buster_Posey
25-34.... But who really cares when you turn a triple play? Right?
Billy Beane
has a big boner right now.
But Texas will take Smoak. Book it.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Isn't the gay one a Bean?
sans “e”?
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Everybody says there’s a huge chance he already has a deal in place with a team – either Mariners or Yankees most likely
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Rotoworld take
Giants selected Florida State catcher Buster Posey with the fifth pick in the draft.
A bit of a surprise. The Giants will have to spend big to sign Posey, but it should be worth it. He’s turned into a legitimate catcher prospect, and he has great on-base skills and modest power potential. His skill set resembles Joe Mauer’s, even if he is a right-handed hitter, but since he does lack polish behind the plate, he might not advance quite as quickly as Alvarez or a couple of the other top college players.
Kevin Goldstein (12:10:37 PM PT): 10. Astros—Jason Castro, C, Stanford.
Are you f-ing kidding me? Words can not describe how dumb this is. They just can’t. I’m utterly speechless. At least I get to rip Houston’s drafts once again. I’m rambling to myslef here it total disbelief.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
Astros
The Astros absolutely must have a catcher who can’t hit. It’s a rule.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
i saw tanner twice this year
and he looked as good as advertised….still not sure how a person breaks a shoulder blade but he could rise fast if he is healthy
im adopting "insert 37th pick's name here"
by Headhunter Rollins on Jun 5, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
Pretty telling
on that shot of the A’s draft room, filled with dudes doing a crapload of research. And we have Flippy.
The Astros make me feel happy to be a Giants fan.
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM PDT reply actions
Rangers take Smoak
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions
Wow
Smoak’s photo is horrible
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Jun 5, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
smoak to rangers
lucky bastards.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
No Smoak for you A’s!
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions
That's my guess.
I keep reading the Hicks love for Oakland, but I can’t see how they pass on Wallace.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
dude
they’re throwing around Teixeira and Chipper as comps for Smoak…
AND WE’RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY WITH JASON KENDALL?!!!!!
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
I wanna cry now
Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll bet JT Snow has ugly feet. His 2nd toe is propbbaly longer than his big toe.
2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!
OK, fine
you’d rather have Mauer than Teixeira?
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
If we can draft a good 1B in the second round, probably.
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yupperoni
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Russell Martin + Average 1B > Mark Teixeira + Average C. I’ll always believe that.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
well, I eagerly await the supplemental round
look, I’m just happy we took a college bat.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Kendall was a great catcher for several years
..and Posey is a lot more athletic, so should play better defense.
You know
If Smoak turns into the next Teixeira the Rangers will be able to trade him for two or three catchers
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions
you said it yourself
“if”.
What if he hits like JT Snow?
given his position..
..Snow was below-average with the bat. Kendall was above average for years; his team just didn’t see the signs when he started slipping.
id take that
but everyone has his ceiling at 290 hitter.. HIS CEILING!! at least say he has a chance to hit 330 if all goes well but expect 290
Interesting – Weeks
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply actions
Wow...
I wasn’t sure about Weeks at #37. This is almost as big an overdraft as Castro (I saw Castro as early as 17-19, Weeks not until the late 20’s).
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I would’ve been looking at Hunt or Melville as a pitcher, or possibly Ethan Martin.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
David Cooper
Who won’t last that long
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just gonna say
any chance he drops to 37?
Cal = smart. I like smart.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 5, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
David Cooper!
David Cooper!
(Or Conor Gillespie)
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 5, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
David Cooper at 37?
What do people think of the Cal 1B?
Go Durham, Roberts, Aurilia, Vizquel, Winn, Lowry! The better you do, the quicker we can trade you!
+1
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Wallace to Cards
Great pick for them.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
I'm glad I'm not a Houston fan..
A C that doesn’t project to do anything? With J.R. Towles? Over Smoak?
Maybe Ned Colletti has an agent in their mist…a Secret Invasion of his own.
it's always noonan somewhere
I am really hoping Connor Gellaspie falls to us at #37
the way it’s playing out that looks possible
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 5, 2008 12:22 PM PDT reply actions
Brett Wallace
certainly has some gams.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Steve Philllips
has had about 12 “top-5 Hitters” so far.
BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 5, 2008 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
Steve Phillips is easily confused
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
Go Durham, Roberts, Aurilia, Vizquel, Winn, Lowry! The better you do, the quicker we can trade you!
by NeifiChicken on Jun 5, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
From ESPN on Smoak...
This is the best pick in the draft so far. Smoak is the third-best player on my board. He’s a switch-hitting Adrian Gonzalez with more power. In the Rangers’ ballpark, he has a good chance to hit 40 home runs, if he develops. There are no major holes in his game. I saw this scenario possibly unfolding last night. A lot of things had to go right for them to get Smoak, and they did.
Well that explains why he wasn’t picked sooner. They’re comparing him to some chick name Adrian
2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!
isn't a switch hitting Adrian Gonzalez with more power named...
Mark Teixeira?
Go Durham, Roberts, Aurilia, Vizquel, Winn, Lowry! The better you do, the quicker we can trade you!
by NeifiChicken on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but:
Wake me when the Rangers make the playoffs again.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
So by most accounts, Posey was ranked higher than Smoak. Did the giants do the right thing then by picking the best player available (which also happens to be an area they’re thin)?
2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!
no big whoop either way
Both are good. Neither is A-Rod.
Well....
When the talent is equal, you go with the better guy who fills the bigger need.
Hopefully, we get the better end of this toss-up.
it's always noonan somewhere
I'll admit, it could've been worse...
....but not realistically much, IMO.
I hope I’m proven wrong.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 5, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Hicks to Twins
they like athletic OFers
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 5, 2008 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
Ethan Martin…. okay
Proud new mom of Mr. Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 12:33 PM PDT reply actions
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