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Teams drafting a player named Tim in the first round for three consecutive years have never not won a championship the following year. Yet another reason why we need to package our trade exception and Ray Durham's expiring contract to move up in this draft.

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Well someone had better tell the Ray's

And I don’t mean Durham.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:32 AM PDT   0 recs

Smoak or Hosmer please.

If we draft Matusz or Crow, I think this board will be highly displeased. A lot of rumors flying around that the Giants may make a huge reach at #5 and pick a player at the end of 1st round at #5.

Jesse English: He is BAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!

by gianator on Jun 5, 2008 8:37 AM PDT   0 recs

Maybe Wallace?

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jun 5, 2008 8:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m with you – Smoak or Hosmer, and try not to be too displeased if it’s Posey. Might cry if they take Gordon Beckham.

by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

From what I know (and that's not much)

I’d be ecstatic with Smoak, Hosmer, or if by some miracle they’re available, Tim Beckham or Pedro Alvarez.

I’d be happy with Alonso. I’d be okay with Posey. Even Skipworth and G. Beckham I could live with.

I am simply NOT OKAY with a pitcher this time. The stakes are just too frigging high, and for the love of gawd, WE’VE GOT GOOD YOUNG PITCHERS ALREADY!

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Jun 5, 2008 9:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

According to Keith Law’s latest we’re all lined up for Buster Posey.

by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 8:38 AM PDT   0 recs

Someone barricade Sabean in his bathroom, please. I’m not letting another catcher screw up my team.

Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 8:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If it makes you feel better...

after AJ ruined our team, he exacted revenge on the Angel on our behalf for the 2002 WS in the 2005 playoffs with that crazy play of his.

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2006 draft day thread: 386 posts
2007 draft day threads: 1,134 posts

Projections for today?

by Evan on Jun 5, 2008 8:39 AM PDT   0 recs

116 so far and the first pick is more than an hour and a half away. You’re going to lose this one.

by Evan on Jun 5, 2008 9:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I never lose

Have you not learned that about me?

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 9:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Somewhere, Jose Castillo guffaws.

by Evan on Jun 5, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

On that Note:

How many of use actually posting are there? like 10 ?

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 9:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We are very well-informed and interesting people and the world must know our thoughts DAMMIT!!!!

by jcb9 on Jun 5, 2008 9:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

1,000 of which will consist of the anger and rage when G.Becks is taken by the Giants

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

G Bex 4 Eva Haterz LOL!

http://minorgiants.wordpress.com/
Where the relative merits of Joe Paterson and Daniel Otero are hashed out over knife fights and tea.

by RougeGorrila on Jun 5, 2008 8:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’d be more pissed with the $12 million man.

Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.

by Anticon23 on Jun 5, 2008 8:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How about spending less money for more of what we need in someone like Smoak?

Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.

by Anticon23 on Jun 5, 2008 9:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But then Lyle will be forced to write 1,000 counterposts

and there you are… take the over.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Jun 5, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

10900

If you like things that are funny, perhaps you will enjoy ChatterBalks Dot Com?

by groug on Jun 5, 2008 11:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Smoak on the Water

PLEASE Don’t let the Orioles draft this guy. It’d be so nice to get a power-hitting 1B.

I predict that if a pitcher is taken by the Giants at 5, this board will go into full on meltdown mode.

by MbahABako on Jun 5, 2008 8:42 AM PDT   0 recs

It is also entirely possible

That the Giants pull a rabbit out of a hat and Draft Chris Webber.

I hear he is avaliable.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT   0 recs

I’ll take Michael Tucker

Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Can we have Shinjo again?

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Shinjo!

I LOVE that guy!

by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 8:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’ll throw in that LED belt buckle & Segway to sign

Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pulls on orange sweat bands

by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

greatest wristbands in Giants’ history (non Dusty division)

by tyrannoman on Jun 5, 2008 9:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This thread needs Draft Day Sabean, Josh from Hollywood style!

“Can I draft a ham sandwich?”

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jun 5, 2008 8:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I want me some Smoak, please.

Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.

by Anticon23 on Jun 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT   0 recs

Me want Smoak, too

here’s more from the craptacular Dayn Perry (whom I dislike with a passion)

4. Justin Smoak, 1B, South Carolina
The switch-hitting Smoak is probably the best pure hitter in the draft not named Pedro Alvarez. Controls the strike zone, takes his walks, ridiculous power. And he’s done it all against SEC competition. His defense at first is acceptable, but it’s his bat that makes him a potential star. He’s the surest bet available.

by tyrannoman on Jun 5, 2008 9:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dayn Perry gets on his knees when Lasorda asks him to.

Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!

by SoFa King Mike on Jun 5, 2008 9:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

and lovingly feed Tommy pasta after he’s done his duty.

by tyrannoman on Jun 5, 2008 10:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is the first MLB draft I've given a shit about.

I’m so excited. It’s kinda like losing your virginity…

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:45 AM PDT   0 recs

+1

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 5, 2008 8:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Could be if you had XM or wireless in the garage…

by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 8:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Or on mind altering hallucinogenics…wait, that was me.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jun 5, 2008 8:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That was YOU?

I guess that makes it a whole other type of “first”.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Also

Interesting graphic here courtesy of THT:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/images/uploads/team_barisp_hr_al5.gif

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:47 AM PDT   0 recs

Makes sense, we’re a bad hitting team, no matter the situation.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jun 5, 2008 8:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What doesn't make sense

Is that we are 3rd in the NL in Ab’s w/ RISP.

Why are we getting so many people on base?

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The presence of RallyKiller

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 5, 2008 8:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Quite Likely

Altho, frankly, he has been very disspointing lately. He hasn’t GIDP since I went on a rampage.

I was thinking about writing a makeup fanpost.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I recently updated my comparison between Castle and Happy Pete on my blarg. He might not be hitting into those double plays as frequently, but he sure strikes out a hell of lot – I think the rate has increased over the last few weeks.

No making up – he still sucks. He just sucks for cheap.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 5, 2008 8:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I am ok w/ the SO's.

And if he is striking out because he is being more selective in DP situations, then awesome – I think there is hope.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He strikes out a lot because he swings out of the zone a lot and makes contact at a little under league average when he’s outside of the strike zone.

He’s not a good hitter.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jun 5, 2008 8:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He’s not a good hitter.

Remember who your talking to – I know this ;)

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think there are some out there who have suffered brain strokes that actually don’t mind Castillo.

I wrote about him a little here

/self-plug

If you guys ever get sick of me linking to my site, tell me so, and I’ll stop.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jun 5, 2008 9:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I get sick of not being able to read it

Because for some reason my company thinks it is PRON!!! OMG!!!

and then I never think about it when I get home.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 9:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Because you are too busy with pron at home

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 5, 2008 9:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, it’s weird that your work filter is catching my site, no idea why.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Jun 5, 2008 9:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice write-up. I suspect that many of his stats have deteriorated since then – I did a surface analysis around May 12, which I revisited over the weekend, and while some stats are similar, many are worse. I don’t think any are better.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 5, 2008 9:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What would you expect from a guy that got put on waivers? I think people don’t mind Castillo because he’s the lesser of a great number of evils.

The last time the Giants had a good option at 3B was when Aramis went on free agency, but even then people were lukewarm to the idea.

by Change Up on Jun 5, 2008 9:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Question...

How many Tims are expected to be drafted in the first 3 rounds…TBecks is officially going to the Rays… and I want another timmay

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 5, 2008 8:49 AM PDT   0 recs

Selig: And the 5th pick in the 2008 Rule 4 Draft, the San Francisco Giants select Tim Smoak.
Smoak: Uh, that’s not my na-
Giants fans: WHOOOO! TIMMEH!
Smoak: Uh…. cool?

by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 5, 2008 8:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 5, 2008 8:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Off to class

Keep the hate here for me… I expect to see tons of hate when sabean forgets his brain at home and takes Scheppers from Fresno St., forgetting it was a reach before the injury

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 5, 2008 8:52 AM PDT   0 recs

me wants some Scheppers at #37

by wilriv21 on Jun 5, 2008 8:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Looks like Seattle might be grabbing him.

Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.

by Anticon23 on Jun 5, 2008 9:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Heard he checked out with their doctors

Thought Brewers might grab him with all their extra picks. He is a very good value late 1st or supplemental pick.

by wilriv21 on Jun 5, 2008 9:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's my contribution

To the potentially largest running thread of all time.

Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!

by UnleashTheGore on Jun 5, 2008 8:56 AM PDT   0 recs

Glad to see TBeck off the board

my concern is whether he will hit at ML level

by wilriv21 on Jun 5, 2008 8:57 AM PDT   0 recs

Well, Now

It’s the DRays concern :)

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Bonus demands

Are they real or posturing?

Alvarez wants $8M
Hosmer $7M
Posey $12M
Alonso $8M
Crow lots of monies

by wilriv21 on Jun 5, 2008 9:03 AM PDT   0 recs

Shit, I'll take 10$

and I have a 99.5% chance of being as effective at the ML as 90% of the people who will be drafted today.

If that makes any sense.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 9:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

and a .05% chance

of being MORE effective

by Viliphied on Jun 5, 2008 9:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

er, make that

.5%

Shutup, it’s early

by Viliphied on Jun 5, 2008 9:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

.05% is probably more accurate

But hey, I could probably play 1b ! :)

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 9:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

FairweatherFan = The Next Desi Wilson!

by jcb9 on Jun 5, 2008 9:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It is not my money

Take the best player available and pay em what they want

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 5, 2008 9:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So the franchise will be further crippled when that player turns out to be a bust

And we get stuck with more mediocre players for the next 5 years?

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hasn’t that been our formula for success so far?

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 5, 2008 9:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with that sentiment, but 7-8 mil is peanuts nowadays when you consider how many years you have control over the players.

http://minorgiants.wordpress.com/
Where the relative merits of Joe Paterson and Daniel Otero are hashed out over knife fights and tea.

by RougeGorrila on Jun 5, 2008 9:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A one year 5 to 10 million expenditure is not going to cripple the Giants

Their artificial cap of 90 million is bogus. The Giants make a ton of money.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 5, 2008 9:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But just think of what we could get for that money instead

Like say – another year of Ray Durham ;)

Or more realistically – Bill Hall.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 9:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Listen, they're making a ton of money

They don’t need to stick us with the closing costs.

[/Lennox Financial]

Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.

by Kitspool on Jun 5, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Especially when you're talking about a 8-10 year investment

with the rest of those years being either free, dirt cheap, or under market expense.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Jun 5, 2008 9:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs