Open Draft Day Thread I
Teams drafting a player named Tim in the first round for three consecutive years have never not won a championship the following year. Yet another reason why we need to package our trade exception and Ray Durham's expiring contract to move up in this draft.
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Well someone had better tell the Ray's
And I don’t mean Durham.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:32 AM PDT
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Smoak or Hosmer please.
If we draft Matusz or Crow, I think this board will be highly displeased. A lot of rumors flying around that the Giants may make a huge reach at #5 and pick a player at the end of 1st round at #5.
Jesse English: He is BAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!
by gianator on
Jun 5, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
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I’m with you – Smoak or Hosmer, and try not to be too displeased if it’s Posey. Might cry if they take Gordon Beckham.
by GiantsFanInExile on
Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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From what I know (and that's not much)
I’d be ecstatic with Smoak, Hosmer, or if by some miracle they’re available, Tim Beckham or Pedro Alvarez.
I’d be happy with Alonso. I’d be okay with Posey. Even Skipworth and G. Beckham I could live with.
I am simply NOT OKAY with a pitcher this time. The stakes are just too frigging high, and for the love of gawd, WE’VE GOT GOOD YOUNG PITCHERS ALREADY!
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
by hairball on
Jun 5, 2008 9:40 AM PDT
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According to Keith Law’s latest we’re all lined up for Buster Posey.
by GiantsFanInExile on
Jun 5, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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Someone barricade Sabean in his bathroom, please. I’m not letting another catcher screw up my team.
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jun 5, 2008 8:40 AM PDT
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If it makes you feel better...
after AJ ruined our team, he exacted revenge on the Angel on our behalf for the 2002 WS in the 2005 playoffs with that crazy play of his.
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by Speedforthewin on
Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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2006 draft day thread: 386 posts
2007 draft day threads: 1,134 posts
Projections for today?
by Evan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
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I'll take the under on that.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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116 so far and the first pick is more than an hour and a half away. You’re going to lose this one.
by Evan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
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I never lose
Have you not learned that about me?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:28 AM PDT
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On that Note:
How many of use actually posting are there? like 10 ?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:28 AM PDT
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We are very well-informed and interesting people and the world must know our thoughts DAMMIT!!!!
by jcb9 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:35 AM PDT
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1,000 of which will consist of the anger and rage when G.Becks is taken by the Giants
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by Speedforthewin on
Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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G Bex 4 Eva Haterz LOL!
http://minorgiants.wordpress.com/
Where the relative merits of Joe Paterson and Daniel Otero are hashed out over knife fights and tea.
by RougeGorrila on
Jun 5, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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I’d be more pissed with the $12 million man.
Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.
by Anticon23 on
Jun 5, 2008 8:51 AM PDT
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Yeah but at least we would be getting a good player for that 12m
Instead of, say – Matt Morris?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:51 AM PDT
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How about spending less money for more of what we need in someone like Smoak?
Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.
by Anticon23 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:19 AM PDT
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But then Lyle will be forced to write 1,000 counterposts
and there you are… take the over.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on
Jun 5, 2008 9:36 AM PDT
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10900
If you like things that are funny, perhaps you will enjoy ChatterBalks Dot Com?
by groug on
Jun 5, 2008 11:07 AM PDT
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I just really hope we don't go G. Beckham.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:40 AM PDT
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Smoak on the Water
PLEASE Don’t let the Orioles draft this guy. It’d be so nice to get a power-hitting 1B.
I predict that if a pitcher is taken by the Giants at 5, this board will go into full on meltdown mode.
by MbahABako on
Jun 5, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
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It is also entirely possible
That the Giants pull a rabbit out of a hat and Draft Chris Webber.
I hear he is avaliable.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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I’ll take Michael Tucker
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jun 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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Can we have Shinjo again?
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by Speedforthewin on
Jun 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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I’ll throw in that LED belt buckle & Segway to sign
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jun 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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greatest wristbands in Giants’ history (non Dusty division)
by tyrannoman on
Jun 5, 2008 9:18 AM PDT
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This thread needs Draft Day Sabean, Josh from Hollywood style!
“Can I draft a ham sandwich?”
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:45 AM PDT
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I want me some Smoak, please.
Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.
by Anticon23 on
Jun 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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Me want Smoak, too
here’s more from the craptacular Dayn Perry (whom I dislike with a passion)
4. Justin Smoak, 1B, South Carolina
The switch-hitting Smoak is probably the best pure hitter in the draft not named Pedro Alvarez. Controls the strike zone, takes his walks, ridiculous power. And he’s done it all against SEC competition. His defense at first is acceptable, but it’s his bat that makes him a potential star. He’s the surest bet available.
by tyrannoman on
Jun 5, 2008 9:19 AM PDT
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Dayn Perry gets on his knees when Lasorda asks him to.
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jun 5, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
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and lovingly feed Tommy pasta after he’s done his duty.
by tyrannoman on
Jun 5, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
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This is the first MLB draft I've given a shit about.
I’m so excited. It’s kinda like losing your virginity…
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:45 AM PDT
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Except I'm not in a car.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:45 AM PDT
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+1
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by Speedforthewin on
Jun 5, 2008 8:46 AM PDT
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Could be if you had XM or wireless in the garage…
by GiantsFanInExile on
Jun 5, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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Or on mind altering hallucinogenics…wait, that was me.
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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That was YOU?
I guess that makes it a whole other type of “first”.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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Also
Interesting graphic here courtesy of THT:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/images/uploads/team_barisp_hr_al5.gif
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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Dammit, I am an idiot.
Here is the one we actually give a shit about:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/images/uploads/team_barisp_hr_nl5.gif
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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Makes sense, we’re a bad hitting team, no matter the situation.
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
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What doesn't make sense
Is that we are 3rd in the NL in Ab’s w/ RISP.
Why are we getting so many people on base?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
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The presence of RallyKiller
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by Speedforthewin on
Jun 5, 2008 8:50 AM PDT
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Quite Likely
Altho, frankly, he has been very disspointing lately. He hasn’t GIDP since I went on a rampage.
I was thinking about writing a makeup fanpost.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:51 AM PDT
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I recently updated my comparison between Castle and Happy Pete on my blarg. He might not be hitting into those double plays as frequently, but he sure strikes out a hell of lot – I think the rate has increased over the last few weeks.
No making up – he still sucks. He just sucks for cheap.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on
Jun 5, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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I am ok w/ the SO's.
And if he is striking out because he is being more selective in DP situations, then awesome – I think there is hope.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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He strikes out a lot because he swings out of the zone a lot and makes contact at a little under league average when he’s outside of the strike zone.
He’s not a good hitter.
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:54 AM PDT
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He’s not a good hitter.
Remember who your talking to – I know this ;)
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
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I think there are some out there who have suffered brain strokes that actually don’t mind Castillo.
I wrote about him a little here
/self-plug
If you guys ever get sick of me linking to my site, tell me so, and I’ll stop.
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:00 AM PDT
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I get sick of not being able to read it
Because for some reason my company thinks it is PRON!!! OMG!!!
and then I never think about it when I get home.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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Because you are too busy with pron at home
by Lars The Wanderer on
Jun 5, 2008 9:06 AM PDT
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Yeah, it’s weird that your work filter is catching my site, no idea why.
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
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Nice write-up. I suspect that many of his stats have deteriorated since then – I did a surface analysis around May 12, which I revisited over the weekend, and while some stats are similar, many are worse. I don’t think any are better.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on
Jun 5, 2008 9:06 AM PDT
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What would you expect from a guy that got put on waivers? I think people don’t mind Castillo because he’s the lesser of a great number of evils.
The last time the Giants had a good option at 3B was when Aramis went on free agency, but even then people were lukewarm to the idea.
by Change Up on
Jun 5, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
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Question...
How many Tims are expected to be drafted in the first 3 rounds…TBecks is officially going to the Rays… and I want another timmay
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by Speedforthewin on
Jun 5, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
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Selig: And the 5th pick in the 2008 Rule 4 Draft, the San Francisco Giants select Tim Smoak.
Smoak: Uh, that’s not my na-
Giants fans: WHOOOO! TIMMEH!
Smoak: Uh…. cool?
by GiantsFanInExile on
Jun 5, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
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LOL
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by Speedforthewin on
Jun 5, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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Off to class
Keep the hate here for me… I expect to see tons of hate when sabean forgets his brain at home and takes Scheppers from Fresno St., forgetting it was a reach before the injury
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by Speedforthewin on
Jun 5, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
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Looks like Seattle might be grabbing him.
Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.
by Anticon23 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:18 AM PDT
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Heard he checked out with their doctors
Thought Brewers might grab him with all their extra picks. He is a very good value late 1st or supplemental pick.
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
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Here's my contribution
To the potentially largest running thread of all time.
Proud pappa of....STEVE HOLM!!
by UnleashTheGore on
Jun 5, 2008 8:56 AM PDT
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Glad to see TBeck off the board
my concern is whether he will hit at ML level
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
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Well, Now
It’s the DRays concern :)
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
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Bonus demands
Are they real or posturing?
Alvarez wants $8M
Hosmer $7M
Posey $12M
Alonso $8M
Crow lots of monies
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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Shit, I'll take 10$
and I have a 99.5% chance of being as effective at the ML as 90% of the people who will be drafted today.
If that makes any sense.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:04 AM PDT
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and a .05% chance
of being MORE effective
by Viliphied on
Jun 5, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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er, make that
.5%
Shutup, it’s early
by Viliphied on
Jun 5, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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.05% is probably more accurate
But hey, I could probably play 1b ! :)
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:14 AM PDT
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It is not my money
Take the best player available and pay em what they want
by Lars The Wanderer on
Jun 5, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
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So the franchise will be further crippled when that player turns out to be a bust
And we get stuck with more mediocre players for the next 5 years?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:08 AM PDT
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Hasn’t that been our formula for success so far?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on
Jun 5, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
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I agree with that sentiment, but 7-8 mil is peanuts nowadays when you consider how many years you have control over the players.
http://minorgiants.wordpress.com/
Where the relative merits of Joe Paterson and Daniel Otero are hashed out over knife fights and tea.
by RougeGorrila on
Jun 5, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
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A one year 5 to 10 million expenditure is not going to cripple the Giants
Their artificial cap of 90 million is bogus. The Giants make a ton of money.
by Lars The Wanderer on
Jun 5, 2008 9:11 AM PDT
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But just think of what we could get for that money instead
Like say – another year of Ray Durham ;)
Or more realistically – Bill Hall.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:17 AM PDT
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Listen, they're making a ton of money
They don’t need to stick us with the closing costs.
[/Lennox Financial]
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on
Jun 5, 2008 9:36 AM PDT
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Especially when you're talking about a 8-10 year investment
with the rest of those years being either free, dirt cheap, or under market expense.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on
Jun 5, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
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of course
if Pick #5 shows up to, say, San Jose and gets beaned in his first AB, you’ve grossly overpaid…
by tyrannoman on
Jun 5, 2008 10:35 AM PDT
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Here we go...
Lucky cap…check
T-shirt…check
Gamer Face…check…man, I hope I don’t cramp up if I have to hold this face for 2.5 hours!
Start mantra:
Smo…Ho…Al…Tim…Po
Smo…Ho…Al…Tim…Po
OK Giants fans, let’s hope for great picks, not just at #5, but throughout the draft!
by baseballjunkie on
Jun 5, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
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I just hope we pick smoak @ 5
Or that Alvarez somehow falls.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
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No more Tim?
If it’s true, gotta change the chant:
Smo…Ho…Alv…Po
Smo…Ho…Alv…Po
by baseballjunkie on
Jun 5, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
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If SF selects Brian Matusz
I may end up blogging all by myself because everyone will have jump off the Bay Bridge
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
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The Bay Bridge is So Ugly
Better to do the Golden Gate. Makes more of a statement.
by Change Up on
Jun 5, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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it is closer to the ballpark
and at that point does it really matter?
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
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If it’s proximity to the ballpark that matters, perhaps he should throw himself from the Lefty O’Doul Bridge.
by jcb9 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:14 AM PDT
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That would most likely
be anti-climactic in the extreme. Instead of being dead, one would just be cold and wet.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
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It would be pretty funny, though, watching someone try to end it all in such a way.
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Jun 5, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
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Bay Bridge is actually beautiful at night
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jun 5, 2008 9:19 AM PDT
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So are most women.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
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From the bottom of my 6th beer glass
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by SoFa King Mike on
Jun 5, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
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pie as in pizza or lemon creamcheese?
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:14 AM PDT
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Pizza is not deep enough...
Although the fact that it is hot and will cause burns before I die is an added bonus.
Probably lemon creamcheese. If you are going to die, you might as well go out with some deliciousness.
by Lars The Wanderer on
Jun 5, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
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You could drown yourself...
in this Giordano’s Pie !
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by nvsfg on
Jun 5, 2008 10:22 AM PDT
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Get your mind out of the gutter man :-) It’s “Draft Day” . We need Pizza and Beer…..maybe lots of beer.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
by nvsfg on
Jun 5, 2008 10:52 AM PDT
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meh
I won’t be happy, but if Smoak and Alvarez are gone I won’t be in full on Sabes must die mode
by Viliphied on
Jun 5, 2008 9:14 AM PDT
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If they are gone, then they are gone.
But if they are still on the board and we don’t take one or the other – I’m going to be very sad/upset.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
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You have been scooped.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
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Will KC spend the money to pick Hosmer?
Or will they go for a safer selection in Smoak.
Jesse English: He is BAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!
by gianator on
Jun 5, 2008 9:17 AM PDT
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KC loves Boras and his client
KC is willing to work with Boras and his client Hosmer
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:18 AM PDT
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If all these contract demands are out in the open...
What is to keep Smoak, or anyone else, from asking for the same once they are selected? It would almost seem silly not to ask for the same.
by baseballjunkie on
Jun 5, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
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It's all just a crapshoot
no one really knows what is going on, IMO.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:26 AM PDT
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Yeah, anyone could say just about anything...
and we have to take it with a grain of salt.
I say draft who you want. With the latest rumor of Posey wanting 12 mill for instance… what’s he going to do if he doesn’t get it? Go back to school? His stock may never be higher than it is now.
by baseballjunkie on
Jun 5, 2008 9:29 AM PDT
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He might go all Jamarquis Russel on them.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:29 AM PDT
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By the way, TIP to everyone
If you hit Shift-A periodically, it marks all new comments as read. Not only does that make it easier to follow what is new but it also keeps the thread from getting so laggy when it get’s long.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:18 AM PDT
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Thanks, I usually hit refresh, much better your way
Jesse English: He is BAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!
by gianator on
Jun 5, 2008 9:19 AM PDT
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what is the matter of just hitting “Z” key?
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
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You have to hit it for every new comment.
Shift A clears ALL new comments.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:22 AM PDT
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don’t you like reading my well thought out blather?
by wilriv21 on
Jun 5, 2008 9:23 AM PDT
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Looks like a guinea pig show
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:19 AM PDT
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Any Norwegian players Sabean should know about?
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Jun 5, 2008 9:22 AM PDT
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Well
Metallica may be done w/ Lars Ulrich.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:22 AM PDT
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I pitched in HS
My 78 mph fastball and accompanying offspeed slop were unstoppable!
by Lars The Wanderer on
Jun 5, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
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I bought a radar gun
when I was blowing all of my friends away, convinced I was throwing 85 MPH heat.
ahem – yup. 70 mph.
Awesome.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:26 AM PDT
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Players the Giants could draft who would not cause me great emotional distress:
T. Beckham
G. Beckham
Alvarez
Smoak
Hosmer
Alonso
Wallace
Posey
hell, probably even Skipworth, Matusz, and Crow
What’s been that common theme of Grant’s post for the week? “It would be pretty hard for the Giants to eff this up.” Which is exactly why I’m worried. Because these are the Giants we’re talking about here.
God, I hope it’s Smoak. That would just make everyone so happy, and I’m 99.9% sure we wouldn’t really regret it. While there could be better players picked after him, I think it would take a lot of bad luck for the South Carolinan not to pan out.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
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The Main reason that I (and I think everyone else) want smoak
Is that he has the highest probability of playing 1b for the ML team. He may not have the highest ceiling of players avaliable, but his combination of ceiling and probability is the best.
IMO.
We really need to draft a player that turns out.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
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exactly
the floor is so solid with Smoak, it’s hard to imagine us really regretting that pick. Forgive my poor metaphor, but depending on who’s picked after him, drafting Smoak may not be viewed as a home run in a few years. But it’s hard to imagine a scenario in which it’s not at least seen as a solid double.
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But if KC is smart and picks him and we're left with
G. Beckham
E. Hosmer
B. Posey
Y. Alonso.
Which do you pick?
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Hosmer.
He’s on the top of our board, apparently. And for good reason.
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hosmer if i'm picking
posey because it’s sabean… although I did read somewhere today that the Giants are really hoping Hosmer falls to them. so maybe that’s not such a pipe dream.
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My list is much shorter
P.Avlarez.
J. Smoak.
I guess Hosmer.
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Jonathan Mayo final mock draft.
5. San Francisco Giants: Buster Posey, C, Florida State
The Giants would love for Hosmer to drop here, but barring that, Posey does make the most sense. Word of a big bonus demand could force the Giants to look elsewhere, perhaps to Justin Smoak, but the thinking is they’ll take the guy they feel is the best on their board and that will be Posey.
Last projection: Posey
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fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
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Posey
I don’t get all the fuss about Posey. He could get bigger but doesn’t appear to have a great future as a power hitter. His arm according to the scouting report “plays below average”. His swing looks OK, but nothing to get excited about. Sure he could hit for average with decent walking skills, but I just don’t see him being an improvement over Pablito.
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I don’t get all of the dissent on Posey. A .280/.380/.410 catcher hitter with Gold Glove defense is insanely valuable. In a BP chat, they would estimate something like that to be 8 WARP. And that isn’t crazy pie-in-the-sky forecasting, either. Crazy talk would be thinking that he’ll hit for a little bit of power, which he still might. Flip a coin for me for Smoak or Posey, but I’d be geeked on either one.
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Goldstein has Posey as the #3 best player in the draft. I like Posey, too, athletic and if he stays at catcher, he’ll have a lot of value.
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I’d say more like 280/350/410 with average defense. I don’t see why people think his defense is that great when his scouting report says that his arm plays below average. I mean blocking balls is important, but I always thought the thing that separated good catchers from great ones was the cannon.
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Below average arm?
He hits 94mph on the mound, his arm is a plus for him.
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To clarify, I’ve not seen one scouting report that says his arm is on the weak side. Do you have a link?
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Yeah, his arm is supposed to be ridiculously quick, especially considering that he is still learning the position.
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Here's the link
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I don't buy it
I dunno, I’ve read that his arm is a plus from BA and I’m sure BP has said something similar. He came into college as a SS originally, so I’m thinking he had a good enough arm to play that position.
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No
it’s actually blocking the balls in the dirt. You can have an average arm and still throw a lot of runners out if you have a good pitching staff and solid footwork, but turing sliders into wild pitches and lazy ass passed balls will kill a pitching staff. That’s what used to dive me nuts about Benito Santiago. Cannon arm, good athlete, no interest in getting his ass on the ground to take the ball off his chest. He would ole the ball every time.
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Bust a Move
Posey would be a great addition to any team and clubhouse. Not only is the kid talented but he is also a leader.
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I get the impression Posey is going to be a major bust to whoever picks him up.
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by SoFa King Mike on
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Inquiry
ESPN2 is broadcasting the supplemental round as well as the first round, yes?
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Okay, Im going to actually go try to work for an hour.
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"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
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The man looks as red-faced as Ted Kennedy there.
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Hey, does anyone happen to know who Tampa Bay plans to draft?
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Yes, HS RHP Oliver Klohzoff
Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.
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his FB tops out at 109mph
and is a distant cousin of Bea Arthur. Some think that boy ain’t right.
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Why not cut out the middle man and just draft Bea Arthur?
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The REAL stud prospects prefer Croissant Pockets.
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Ask FairWeatherFan
Apparently he has scoped out the Rays pick
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I'm not
nearly the draft nerd that many of you are. I’d like to see them draft Smoak but drafts across most professional sports are an inexact science. None of us really know how any of these guys will turn out.
Having said that, if the Giants draft a pitcher, I’ll be back here in full foaming-at-the-mouth, unrestrained outrage mode.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
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And as Grant pointed out, a lot of folks were upset about picking Lincecum a couple of years ago.
But yeah, please, Jeebus, don’t let us take a pitcher #1. We need to develop some damned hitters. I don’t want to spend the rest of my life watching new versions of Michael Tucker, Jose Castillo, and such.
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But Lincecum didn’t have poor mechanics like Matusz
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what time does this thing start?
11? and how much time to they have to make picks?
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
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"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
John Barr has your back
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I think Sabes is frantically reading Grant’s series of draft articles to figure out what to do.. He saw Grant say “I’m still an absolute moron.” and figured, “Good enough for me!”
2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!
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"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
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Ok Josh come clean.
Just exactly is on the screen that he is "studying"?
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Lemon party?
You know how Sabes loves veteran savvy.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
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+2.5
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What draft links are you reading?
I got Baseball America in one tab, MLB Draft Central in another tab
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I like Callis' draft board
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2008/266271.html
5. SAN FRANCISCO. The Giants play the draft as close to the vest as anyone, so this is the hardest pick to read in the upper half of the first round. Word is that they covet Hosmer, so would they be willing to pay big money for Posey? San Francisco needs hitters, and they could get an elite bat like Smoak or Miami first baseman Yonder Alonso.
Projected Pick: JUSTIN SMOAK, 1b, South Carolina.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
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Prediction: Reese Havens or Lawrie
Pedro Feliz would look great in Dodger Blue.
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Giants need to put more pressure on opposing pitchers. I’m hoping they draft a fast defensive end and switch to the 3-4 defense.
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the 3-4 could be interesting
it makes sense to have an extra outfielder with all the ground in right center at Mays Field. the question is, which position do you remove from the infield? Maybe you have the SS play straight up the middle and don’t have a 2B?
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on
Jun 5, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
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Here is some draft notes from Keith Law’s blog
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He thinks the Giants are talking about Smoak at #5
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I’m really intrigued with Anthony Hewitt, the Giants won’t pick him because he won’t be around by the 37th pick. He’s got gigantic upside but scouts are really split on him.
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Hewitt's gigantic upside
would pair nicely with AnVil’s gigantic backside.
/rimshot
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
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One Final Prediction...
...and one I haven’t seen anyone else do.
5 – Justin Smoak#37 – Tyler Ladendorf – SS – Howard Junior College
#82 – Aaron Pribanic – RHP – Nebraska
#117 – Evan Frederickson – LHP – San Francisco
#147 – Jake Jefferies – C – UC Davis
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concur with #117 staying in his own backyard
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I like Ladendorf, he really rose his draft stock this year and might be gone by 37.
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Good call on the Aggie
I’d be surprised if the Giants didn’t go back to the McKae well.
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fun semi draft-related reading
and a plug for the blog I write for:
Mediocre MLB players of the 1990’s draft
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on
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Just curious
How would we feel if the Giants drafted Gerrit Cole? I know there are signability issues, some he’s-a-high-school-pitcher issues, some issues with not filling an obvious need. But would we be violently angry if they took a shot at a Clayton Kershaw-type pick?
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
by lyricalkiller on
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What’s the deal with his “issues”? I’ve heard about them but never anything specific.
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I like how the NFL draft was coverage i couldnt get away from, and the MLB draft coverage on espn 2 is Indy racing. As much as i love driving in circles I want some sweet TV analysis with clips of the players.
by Giant Voodoo on
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Have the Pirates drafted Alvarez yet?
When can we have us some Hosmer or Posey?
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The A's could have had Smoak out of high school if they were will to spend $50,000 more
http://mvn.com/mlb-draft/2008/05/14/2008-mlb-draft-profile-justin-smoak/
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Giants could have had Bonds out of HS if they were will to spend $5,000 more
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That is a great story,
I remember reading somewhere that Frank Robinson ( I think it was him) offering to pay the difference from his own pocket and management still said " nah".
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
by daveinexile on
Jun 5, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
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Hell
HRC could be the Democrat nominee is she were nicer and had more delegates.
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The cigar smoke has not completely cleared yet.
Though as this point the magic Sabean brain ( once shaken and asked) says, " The sings point to no"
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by daveinexile on
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Has anyone made the requisite “The Giants just drafted a couple of the Negro League guys because Sabean liked their veteran savvy” joke yet?
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
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Carlos Manuel Santiago
Veteran Grit.
Paired with Mays, the Giants will be unstoppable this year.
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Felipe sighting
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So this is a the spot were I can claim they redraft Julio Franco?
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by daveinexile on
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Yes. See such thread.
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How about
Justin Smoak 1b South Carolina at 5
Connor Gillaspie 3B Wichita State at 37
Both have advanced bats although Connor’s ability to stay at third has been questioned. These could be the corner infield for the giants as early at 2010.
Cain is Able ...
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I truly Believe we need to obtain two fast track bats with 5 and 37
This seems to achieve that.
My dreaM world would somehow have Isaac Galloway still chilling in the 3rd Round … but that highly unlikely.
Cain is Able ...
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I stick by Tyler Ladendorf
Ladendorf is going to be a monster, and the Giants should be upset they missed out on him last year.
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What type of player is he?
Cool name.
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Any Chance
Ladendorf is still around with the 3rd round pick?
Cain is Able ...
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Probably not. His draft stock has been shooting straight up.
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I like Gillaspie's approach at the plate though ...
And Im not really on board with the idea of having another speedy middle inflieder in the system. We have a ton of those already.
I saw a comparison of Gillaspie as a 3b version of Paul O’neil. Sign me up for that
Cain is Able ...
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Ladendorf
Shortstop. Led all Juco players in steals (65 in 65 attempts) last season while hitting .425. This year, leads all Juco players with a .542 average, 31 steals out of 32 attempts, and he jumped his home run total from 1 to 16.
Giants took him in the 39th round, but didn’t meet his bonus demands, so they definitely know him.
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Damn, where is he projected to go?
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by gianator on
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Anywhere from late first round to late second round.
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Keith Law
Has him rated as the 65tyh best prospect. I guess he wont make it to the 3rd round.
Cain is Able ...
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What makes you think he’ll be a monster? I think he’s athletic as heck, but he’s going to be more of a 7th placed hitter than a middle-of-the-order guy.
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He’s a very good average hitter with elite speed and good plate discipline. His power is more questionable, but he’s got the four other tools in spades.
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One ticket please.
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by daveinexile on
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trade exception
What trade exception are you talking about? I thought that you could not trade picks in baseball or did I miss something.
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Damn Norwegian Baseball Association!
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
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With the #5 pick
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Brian Matusz
Plus-plus chaneup. I love the changeup.
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Im in agreement with most that getting a positional prospect
Is ideal … but Im not going to kill myself if we land a player of Matusz’ caliber. The guy is going to be very very good. We could always trade a Matt Cain in a few years before he reaches free agency and with the boys coming up i.e. Bum, Anderson, Matusz to get positional prospects.
Just a thought
Cain is Able ...
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trading pitchers for position players
not really this club’s forte
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Im in agreement with most that getting a positional prospect
Is ideal … but Im not going to kill myself if we land a player of Matusz’ caliber. The guy is going to be very very good. We could always trade a Matt Cain in a few years before he reaches free agency and with the boys coming up i.e. Bum, Anderson, Matusz to get positional prospects.
Just a thought
Cain is Able ...
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"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
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3rd round.
I pick Andrew Liebel from Long Beach State.
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For you draft experts
Anybody know if anybody from Sonoma State University will be drafted? Our school made it to the D-II tournament and were one win away from going to the championship. Obviously nobody in the first or second round but anybody hear anything?
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I haven’t seen any projections. Probably not likely to go first day (5 rounds).
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At 239 posts, already
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Howtheyscored hasn't even shown up yet.
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
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Anything draft related to listen online?
Like live coverage or something?
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MLB.com has a live video feed and I think they do a live audio feed as well.
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mlb.com
They’re introducing wach team’s representative
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Link please.
THe video is not loading for some reason.
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I’m going to rely on the obsessives of McCC to keep me informed.
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Felipe Alou
Asleep at the draft table
JT representing as well, poking Felipe with a stick.
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It always gives me great pleasure to see the Rays fail miserably, have no fans, always be in last place, and have a shitty stadium, what with St. Petersburg trying to steal the Giants back in 1992.
Too bad about this season, though.
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I like the Rays, they are a pretty good team.
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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I’m just still bitter from when I was 12.
by jcb9 on
Jun 5, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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16-year grudges 4 teh win!
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on
Jun 5, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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Yeah, they’ve arrived to stay. They’re smart to take the highest-upside player in Beckham, because they’re not going to be back at the top of the draft for quite a while.
by Evan on
Jun 5, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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TB..Rays
I like to see them do well. When a team has done so miserably for as long as they have I want to see them do well.
by ACgiant97 on
Jun 5, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
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When a team has done so miserably for as long as they have I want to see them do well.
Reminds me of a certain team…
/looks at you SF Giants
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
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Not really the same – we were in the World Series 6 years ago and the playoffs 5 years ago. The Rays have never had a winning season.
I’d much rather see the Rays win the AL East than the Yankees or Red Sox, I’ll give them that. But when it comes to the AL, I’m a Blue Jays guy.
by jcb9 on
Jun 5, 2008 10:53 AM PDT
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And out of nowhere Pedro Martinez throws Zimmer to the ground!
by xanthan on
Jun 5, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
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"Who's your daddy?"
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Adopted father of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on
Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
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does anyone have the link to baseball america's top 100 prospects?
Cain is Able ...
by Norcalfan10 on
Jun 5, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
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