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living negro leaguers drafted by current mlb clubs

if you guys hadnt heard this yet, dave winfield was inspired by the death of legend buck o'neill to have current mlb teams draft and adopt living negro leaguers. im not sure if it was just one round or not, but the giants officially have a new member to the team

he is carlos manuel santiago, 2b/ss for the new york cubans.

im having a devil of a time finding any biographical or statistical info on him, so if anyone has some knowledge in this area, id welcome some help

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Sabean should love this

Being able to draft veterans? FREAKIN AWESOME.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Jun 5, 2008 8:33 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I had to grab the following from a cached page

The real page had turned into an advertising trap. Here is what I could find, the photos were gone:

CARLOS MANUEL SANTIAGO

Negro League Legend
Puerto Rican Baseball Hall of Famer

  • Born in Mayaguez, Puerto Rico on March 2, 1926.
  • Selected in 1944 to play on the Puerto Rican All-Star team in the Caribbean World Series in Caracas, Venezuela.
  • Upon return signed first professional Contract with Mayaguez Indians; First professional season 1944-45.
  • Traveled to New York on a barnstorming trip with Puerto Rican All-Stars. Immediately spotted by Negro League veteran John Beckwith and signed by Atlanta Black Crackers.
  • Midway through season left Black Crackers and signed with the New York Cubans of the Negro National League.
  • Played second base and shortstop for Negro National League New York Cubans 1945 and 1946.
  • In 1947 Santiago became the first black Puerto Rican to break the color barrier into “organized” baseball when he signed with the Stamford Bombers in the Colonial League. This historic signing opening the door for other Latin players such as Minoso, Marichal, Clemente and Cepeda who would soon follow.
  • By 1950 was one of the top hitters in the Colonial League with a .341 average.
  • In 1951 Bill Veeck and Lou Boudreau invited Santiago to the Cleveland Indians training camp, but fate intervened as Carlos was drafted into the U.S. Army and sent to Korea.
  • After 25 months and five days in the army, Santiago was honorably discharged as a sergeant.
  • Continued playing professionally in the U.S., Canada. Mexico, Columbia and Puerto Rico until 1960.
  • An excellent defensive second baseman, Santiago along with Artie Wilson were known as, “King of the Double Play” in Puerto Rico.
  • Managed and coached for 23 years after retiring.
  • General Manager of the Mayaguez Indians in Mayaguez, Puerto Rico for three years.
  • Served as National Instructor of Baseball in Columbia, South America for four years.
  • Scout for the California Angels for three years.
  • Elected to the Puerto Rican Professional Baseball Hall of Fame in 1993.
  • Member of the Board of Directors, Negro League Baseball Players Association.
  • One of only fifteen surviving Latin American veterans of the Negro Leagues.

by paboperfecto on Jun 5, 2008 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Atlanta Black Crackers? Guffaw.

http://minorgiants.wordpress.com/
Where the relative merits of Joe Paterson and Daniel Otero are hashed out over knife fights and tea.

by RougeGorrila on Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I resent that, sir.

http://minorgiants.wordpress.com/
Where the relative merits of Joe Paterson and Daniel Otero are hashed out over knife fights and tea.

by RougeGorrila on Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No draftee today will top this selection

Santiago is from my mother’s hometown. Good work fellas.

by wilriv21 on Jun 5, 2008 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t there been a lot of players from Mayaguez?

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Jun 5, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have a team Mayaguez Indians that many ML players have played for during winter league. Jonathan Sanchez is from Mayaguez.

by wilriv21 on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

A google image search for “carlos manuel santiago” will return the two pictures of him from the old website that I got the information on, one when he was young and one more recent.

by paboperfecto on Jun 5, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

A bit OT, but:

I think Buck O’Neill deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.

by JT Jordan on Jun 5, 2008 8:42 AM PDT reply actions  

+ 1 million. Great man for raising awareness of Negro League basball. The fact he wasn’t voted in last year, while he was still alive, is a huge sore spot for me.

BTW, if anyone ever gets the chance to go, the Negro League Hall of Fame in KC is amazing. Then head to Authur Bryant’s up the street for the best ribs you’ll ever have.

by tyrannoman on Jun 5, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW, the Negro League section in the Cooperstown HoF is very cool as well. Mrs. Goofus (who as many of you know, is a “negro”) was especially moved by it. And she’s barely a casual baseball fan.

2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!

by Goofus on Jun 5, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

As with most things in Coopestown, it is great.

. The best part of the NLHOF in KC is the small diamond they have layed out with live size statues of players at their position. Satchel Paige is the best, followed closley by Josh Gibson.

by tyrannoman on Jun 5, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny, I had just listed both of those guys on the “I wish they had been Giants” thread.

2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!

by Goofus on Jun 5, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t go wrong, there. Man, would I have loved to see Gibson play before the mental illness.

by tyrannoman on Jun 5, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, watching him play after with mental illness might have been equally entertaining.

2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!

by Goofus on Jun 5, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bryant's > Anything not Bryant's

As a KC-ite, I fully support your message.

O’Neil was one of the most amazing people I’ve ever met. After all he went through and all he did for baseball, it’s complete bullshit how they jobbed him out of Cooperstown.

On happier subjects though, the NLHOF is a joy to experience no matter how many times you’ve been there. When he was alive, it wasn’t uncommon to run into Buck as you meandered through the displays.

IMO, Bryant’s has the best meat in KC (I tend to like Gates’ sauce better). The beef sandwich is my go-to choice with a smothering of Rich-and-Spicy sauce. Lunch of champions, which I partake in a couple of times each week.

"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."

by sfgiantsflgators on Jun 5, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Veteran Savvy

I bet he’s better than Durhammy… let’s run him out!

Nice to see MLB do something positive, simple, and basically costless. Good for Winfield, too.

by natteringnabob on Jun 5, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions  

+1

I can’t say it better so I will just tag along with you on this one..

" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.

by daveinexile on Jun 5, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

As soon as Tim passes through waivers and they can free up a 40 man slot for him.

" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.

by daveinexile on Jun 5, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Slightly surprised the Giants didn’t draft a centerfielder with this opportunity….

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I love negroes as much as anyone else

but this is revolting. Their pensions are a joke, but MLB just does a little more retarded posturing because it’s more camera-friendly. Bastards.

Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.

by S.F. Giangst on Jun 6, 2008 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

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