Chulk Gone

by ACgiant97 on Jun 24, 2008 2:19 PM PDT

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080624&content_id=2993733&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb&partnerId=rss_mlb

This is great because Chulk has been garbage lately and it allows us to bring up a young reliever and continue to develop a young pen. Romo is up from AA. Hopefully he will continue being dominant. I dont think anyone wants Chulk so he might end up back in Fresno but not likely. The last part of the Accardo trade has gone. another memory we all wish to forget about

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I’m sorry people I just really really hated Chulk…

by boonitez on Jun 24, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up 0 recs

we can tell.....

by slojoe on Jun 24, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up 0 recs

That’s ok Boonitez. I also hated Chulk from the moment he arrived in SF. Guy was garbage. Good riddance.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 24, 2008 2:30 PM PDT 0 recs

There’s no way he’s getting through waivers. Someone will take Chulk. He has a 1.295 WHIP, 8 BB vs. 16 K, he’s cheap, and only 29. He was fine last year. His problem is like Misch’s – a small sample of homeritis.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 24, 2008 2:31 PM PDT 0 recs

and not coming back

Chris Haft reports that, even if he goes unclaimed, he won’t accept a demotion to Fresno. I actually think the Giants may regret this one, but it isn’t really worth getting worked up over. I expect he will regain his early-season form somewhere else.

by BigO on Jun 24, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up 0 recs

eh, he'll never be better than mediocre at best

there are plenty more relievers on the way

by slojoe on Jun 24, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

thats why he is middle relief. He migth 1 or 2 nice seasons but it willbe more then a handful of bleck!

we mght regreat it some but i seriously doubt we will be kicking ourselves over it.

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by daveinexile on Jun 25, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up 0 recs

I have a feeling Chulk wouldn’t have been so hated if he weren’t part of the Accardo deal. He wasn’t that great this year, but he’s not as bad as most have made him out to be.

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by Natto on Jun 24, 2008 2:32 PM PDT 0 recs

I have a feeling Chulk wouldn't have been so hated if he didn't suck so much

or blow every lead and win oppurtunity he could as long as Matt was pitching.

by boonitez on Jun 24, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up 0 recs

Except the hate flowed even before he was sucking and even before the season.

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by Natto on Jun 25, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

well I only really hated him after he messed up that first Cain lead...

by boonitez on Jun 25, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up 0 recs

CHULK WAIVED!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Jun 24, 2008 2:37 PM PDT 0 recs

I must admit, I’ll kinda miss all the Chulk jokes.

CHULK SMASH SABEAN FACE EAT LARRY BAER

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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 24, 2008 2:37 PM PDT 0 recs

Imagine if Accardo was doing well right now

the uproar that would be in the streets

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by NeifiChicken on Jun 24, 2008 3:09 PM PDT 0 recs

Accardo is hurt, but man was he lights-out last year. That’s the new Sabean pattern – trade a pitcher, have that pitcher put up dazzling numbers for one year, and then have the pitcher go down with a nasty injury.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 24, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up 0 recs

Well, so far he has had a good record trading players that have typically broken down. With notable exeptions such as Nathan.
TBH, I’m more annoyed by the fact that the players we got mostly sucked, and less annoyed by (short) success of one of the trading chips..

by SFGAmsterdam on Jun 24, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ditto

I don’t care that we traded Accardo, I just feel like we could have gotten more for him

by superk1ng on Jun 24, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up 0 recs

Really?!?

How do you explain this one then?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=5933

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by PacBellBoozer on Jun 24, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up 0 recs

What about him? It’s his first good year in 4 years. He was just ok with the Cubs I guess. But for a guy that was supposed to be the first guy to the big leagues and make an impact right away after being drafted he wasn’t very good. All of those Rice pitchers have been huge disappointments so far.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 24, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up 0 recs

Could it be that maybe we didn’t give him the time, nor necessary guidance to grow into the serviceable player he is right now?

How our organization manages to toss away promising young talent, only to replace it with table scraps is beyond me. The name of the game is buy low, sell high….not fuck off with your young players and can I interest you in yet another savvy vet.

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 24, 2008 11:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

How long was the organization supposed to wait? Sure, using anyone with a pulse to trade for LaTroy Hawkins was not a good decision. Still, Aardsma was OK in 2006, really bad in 2007, and now in nearly half a season has had success with the Red Sox. Not even half a season! And he still walks too many guys – 5.8 BB per 9 innings!

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 25, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

Goodbye Vinnie

I never thought you were all that bad, but whenever I would express that you would start to suck.

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by groug on Jun 24, 2008 3:12 PM PDT 0 recs

CHULK FEEL STRONG EMOTION OF REJECTION!

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by Chulk on Jun 24, 2008 4:02 PM PDT 0 recs

CHULK NOT WANT TO BE ON WAIVERS!

CHULK SMASH!

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Jun 24, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up 0 recs

Odd Timing

Matos has been pitching better than Romo lately….not sure why Romo gets the call…

by slojoe on Jun 24, 2008 4:06 PM PDT 0 recs

Romo

As Sergio’s duly recorded adoptive father, my heart swells with pride. After the custody hearing ends in my favor, he’ll be able to enjoy playdates with his other brother, Matt Downs.

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by Lyle on Jun 24, 2008 4:24 PM PDT 0 recs

WTF?

You can’t adopt two dudes at a time can you?

While I’m on the topic of adoption, would anyone like a pre-owned Omar Vizquel? He’s really shiny, can dance a mean foxtrot, and oh ya…he’s won a few of them golden doo-dads.

Anyone?

Buehler?!?

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 24, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

It wasn’t that pressing an issue. Why not trade Chulk first, before waiving him and getting something, THEN bringing up Romo.

by allfrank on Jun 24, 2008 4:36 PM PDT 0 recs

I’d have to guess that there weren’t any eager takers.

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by can of corn on Jun 24, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yeah, there have been reports going around for weeks that most of the bullpen was tradeable. I’m sure they made calls before designating him.

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by EliminateMe on Jun 24, 2008 6:37 PM PDT up 0 recs

Does it matter?

Someone has to pitch in blowouts. I think Chulk may have come around next year, not to win the Cy Young, but to mediocrity.

His main problem was pitching when games mattered… someone needed to take Henny Panny’s spot at the end of the bench, and “Gas Can” did that well, uh, horribly.

So, to restate, meh.

by natteringnabob on Jun 24, 2008 6:14 PM PDT 0 recs

id rather see someone like Espineli get some mop-up innings

or Matos…

by slojoe on Jun 24, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up 0 recs

I'll do ya one better

I can think of a crafty vet with zero command and a not so dominating curveball that could fill that mop-up role quite well.

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 24, 2008 10:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

Zarry Bito?

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by Lyle on Jun 25, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up 0 recs

Woody!

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by Natto on Jun 25, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

At least I don't have to defend him any more.

Only 896 games until the end of Zito's contract

by thehavenot on Jun 24, 2008 6:43 PM PDT 0 recs

Nor I

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by Natto on Jun 24, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

Very meh

Whatever. He’s had a few terrible outings lately, and, other than that, his stay here hasn’t been bad. I think he will fit very well in the middle/towards the back of a bullpen somewhere. I don’t think he deserved to be DFA’d by a team this bad, but I don’t think this is going to make a difference in the next two years of trying to compete.

The Giants seem to think they have plenty of young arms who can come in and contribute in the near future, and I agree. A DFA though? I don’t see any reason why they couldn’t have tried to let him bounce back a bit and then deal him for a ham sandwich.

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by jasomack on Jun 24, 2008 7:43 PM PDT 0 recs

Vinnie’s overrall career with the Giants wasn’t that bad, but you just couldn’t put him into a close game. I remember him coming over from the Blue Jays making a comment about how he is most successful when used in middle relief. I was kind of surprised when he said that, because I was expecting him to say (as most relievers would) that he would love to be a setup man or closer. His lack of confidence in himself was telling.

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by rxmeister on Jun 24, 2008 7:49 PM PDT 0 recs

another failed sabean trade

and he still keeps his job….amazing

by bacci40 on Jun 24, 2008 9:03 PM PDT 0 recs

On this note, Sabean seems relatively keen on dropping players for nothing when they come as parts of trades that didn’t go his way. Chulk is another in a growing list of guys who were parts of unsuccesful Sabean moves who we could have gotten a lot more value out of than we did once Brian decided it was time to sweep the evidence out the door.

Note: This is to say that any value is a lot more than none.

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by howtheyscored on Jun 24, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

would you rather he kept Chulk?

i dont really care either way but you have to make some room for the young relievers on the way and i dont think Chulk is much of a loss..

by slojoe on Jun 24, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

no....i wanna see the kids play

and we have alot of live arms down on the farm….

so shoot, dfa walker while you are at it

the fact remains, chulk never shouldve been on this team

we didnt need him, when we had the exact same model, just in a younger version

it was a stupid trade

and its par for the course

i keep hearing on all the sports shows how teams are so quick to fire their gms and managers

not this org…we keep our trash

by bacci40 on Jun 24, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

maybe DFA walker - i wouldnt mind that either...and Roberts

it would make a statement that this team is looking to the future and the olds guys had better bust it if they want to be a part of it….

i didnt like the Accardo trade either, but its over…

if you look at the entire tenure of Sabean, i think
he deserves till the end of 2009 to get things headed in the right direction, and there are already some positive signs..and Bumgarner, Alderson, and Sosa may not be too far off…

Bochy was fairly well-regarded as manager in San Diego and was given some credit
for putting together a decent bullpen there…im not saying he’s some great manager, i think he’s middle of the pack, and he’s certainly a hell of an upgrade over Felipe IMO…..

by slojoe on Jun 25, 2008 3:59 AM PDT up 0 recs

DFA Walker?

Who’s gonna take his place?

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by groug on Jun 25, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up 0 recs

anybody - i dont care, im not too concerned about W-L this year

by slojoe on Jun 25, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up 0 recs

Seriously?

How about:
1. Romo (already there)
2. Matos
3. Espineli
4. Pichardo
5. Hedrick
6. Waddell

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by Lyle on Jun 25, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

Is there some compelling reason that these guys need to be in the majors? Is there some urgency I’m not getting to starting their arbitration clocks? I mean, a 4.55 ERA from Walker isn’t all that great, but it’s not awful enough to kick him off the team. I don’t really see the point in change for the sole purpose of change. Chulk had to go because he was awful. Walker has to go because he’s had 4 really bad game?

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by groug on Jun 25, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

No compelling reason, but there’s nothing about Tyler Walker that causes me to wish to hold on to him. If Matos is ready, let’s give him a shot. Heck, the guy I probably should have included is Adam Cowart. As DrB pointed out last year, Cowart is what is already….he’s not really “refining his craft” in the minors. Let’s get him up to SF and see how he does, if a spot becomes available. And, to me, Walker’s spot looks pretty available.

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by Lyle on Jun 26, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up 0 recs

Well, bringing up Romo wasn’t exactly a pressing situation, and Chulk’s value was probably only capable of going up. Would a few more weeks to let something potentially shake out have made any negative difference in any way…? Not in my opinion at least. If Chulk continues to suck, we’re still losing and Romo’s not stunted at all. If Chulk does something worth trading for, we get some value out of the guy.

This way he’s just completely sunk.

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by howtheyscored on Jun 24, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up 0 recs

yeah true, i just doubt if you'd get much for Chulk even if he's pitched decently

it seems like all year long we’ve been complaining that they’re not playing the young guys and hanging on to some vets that we dont need….Sabean takes a step in the right direction here, IMO, to move forward into the future…i would have rather they recall Matos, but no big deal….hopefully the word is coming down from the new managing partner to get rid of some this dead weight, maybe Dave Roberts gets cut next….

by slojoe on Jun 25, 2008 3:37 AM PDT up 0 recs

Farewell, Puka Shell Necklace

(you know, because he’s a choker. Heh.)

DFA all Giants over 34 years old.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 24, 2008 9:09 PM PDT 0 recs

Romo will be 2nd player from Giants 2005 draft class to debut this year

first was Hinshaw. this was the draft that the Giants didn’t have a pick in the first 3 rounds. We lost picks for signing Benitez and Omar. Romo was a 28th rounder from Mesa State College.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 25, 2008 1:04 PM PDT 0 recs

i thought Benitez was a decent roll of the dice at the time

that was the last year the Giants had a reasonable shot at it, so i didnt mind the Vizquel and Matheny,
Alou etc. signings…

by slojoe on Jun 27, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

So you're saying...

...that if we’d had our first two picks in 2005 instead of giving them up for FA signings, we might have actually had a good draft class, and could possibly be getting help THIS year from our farm system, instead of waiting primarily for 2010 and beyond?

I agree.

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by Lyle on Jun 25, 2008 1:35 PM PDT 0 recs