Zito Trade
by 25 on Jun 2, 2008 11:49 PM PDT
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PrintWith Zito improving, is there a possible trade looming? The Yankees are struggling with pitching and if Zito continues to improve, it would not surprise me at all to see them make a move for Zito. Do you think this is possible? What would you want for Zito?
Personally, I would lvoe to trade Zito for prospects. I think freeing up our cap space for this offseason would be big for us, we already have plenty of pitching including prospects coming up, and we could use some young hitting prospects.
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Not gonna happen
I don’t think anyone’s touching that contract, and Giants’ FO won’t admit defeat so soon.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 2, 2008 11:54 PM PDT reply actions
Zito getting traded
Could happen, but the Gigantes would have to pony up at least 50% of the contract to get a team like the Yankees, Red Sox, or Mets to give us anything in return
Down in Front Meat!
No one
Repeat, NO ONE, is trading for Zito without the Giants eating a massive % of the remaining contract. Even the Yankees won’t do that. Zito might not finish his career in SF but it’s unlikely he’s getting traded/unloaded until Year 5 at the earliest.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
I would be happy with a nice wooden bat autographed by a famous Yankee.
Maybe Don Mattingly?
I'm an ESPN Insider!
I am looking for the option for “A ham sandwich”
Other is accurate, but it doesn’t really convey the same meaning.
If you like things that are funny, perhaps you will enjoy ChatterBalks Dot Com?
... with deli mustard and chips?
ok i can live with out the deli mustrad and chips. Do they want him gift wrapped? Its freee.
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
Are you saying "no" to the idea of trading Zito??
You are kidding, right?
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
If anyone wants to take on a big enough chunk of his remaining salary, I’d give him away for free. But not even that’s gonna happen. Let’s just keep hoping he can reinvent himself as a passable No. 4/5 guy in the rotation.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 3, 2008 12:11 AM PDT reply actions
i know that it is highly unlikely…but i can dream, right?
Riddle:
I wear blue and white, I arrive to baseball games in the 4th inning, I leave in the 7th inning, my team's home stadium plays movie trailers between innings, I read magazines during the game, I play with beach balls, and I love the wave.
Who am I?
I would take the day off and get silly drunk if Zito were traded. We can certainly dream, yes.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 3, 2008 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
As much as I wish he wasn't here,
he is. He’s not going anywhere, either. And he definitely wouldn’t net us any prospects because of his fat ass contract and his heaping pile of suck. He has like a 4-something era, which is okay, but not for a 100-whatever’s left on his contract-million dollars. He should have like a mid-3 or high-2 era with that kind of money. Even the Yankees wouldn’t waste their money on him. I think asking the Yanks for bats would be pushing it, too. I think a Bennigan’s coupon would be the best return we could hope for.
10 Bats
In keeping with the mode of the day, I would trade Barry for 10 bats.
I would trade Zito
for some garlic fries…that’s a winning situation for me.
Riddle:
I wear blue and white, I arrive to baseball games in the 4th inning, I leave in the 7th inning, my team's home stadium plays movie trailers between innings, I read magazines during the game, I play with beach balls, and I love the wave.
Who am I?
I highly doubt that anyone is going to trade for Zito right now.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
Took almost 20 comments for someone to bring that up.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 3, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
But
Very good point, Baron. That said, Barry could waive his no-trade—and just might if it meant going to a strong team such as the Yankees. Then again, he might not want the pressure of The Big Apple.
Tonight’s start didn’t do much for Barry’s trade value though. I was more concerned about the 1/5 K/BB ratio than the runs he gave up. I felt Barry’s K/BB ratio in May - while not great - showed that he was going in the right direction. After tonight’s start, I no longer feel that way.
snerk
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 3, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
+1
My other was: did you just crawl out from under a bridge? No one’s taking on that contract unless he goes like 18-0 the rest of his starts, even then prob. not.
Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
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Upon further review, it does.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 3, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
sigh
” I think freeing up our cap space for this offseason would be big for us, we already have plenty of pitching including prospects coming up, and we could use some young hitting prospects. “
There is no salary cap in baseball, no one on the planet would eat Zito’s contract, and I can only hope that he will be an effective 4-5 starter. As last week, my new rallying cry for Zito is “Barry Zito…he’s not as bad as Pat Misch!”
No...
I know there is no salary cap in baseball, but, the team has a certain amount of money to spend, in other words, a cap.
Riddle:
I wear blue and white, I arrive to baseball games in the 4th inning, I leave in the 7th inning, my team's home stadium plays movie trailers between innings, I read magazines during the game, I play with beach balls, and I love the wave.
Who am I?
by 25 on Jun 3, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Zito is the most untradeable player in baseball.
I’d offer Zito + $30M to the Dodgers for Schmidt, but they’d probably laugh.
If you sweetened it to $35M, maybe they’d agree to keep Schmidt?
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
Nice joke
Nice joke. But I recently read that Jason was hitting 92 mph.
Well he does have anger management problems.
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I know he doesn’t, but the punchline doesn’t work if you can’t suspend your godforsaken disbelief!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 4, 2008 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
He was hitting 92 mph.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 4, 2008 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions
He probably is
and wil continue throwing 92 for another three days, where his groin will explode, or his hamstring will pull, or his shoulder will ache.
How about Zito tirade instead?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 3, 2008 10:36 AM PDT reply actions
You make an excellent point.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 3, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Hampton managed to get traded...
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
True
but if Zito was traded in a similar fashion, it would be Zito + $140 million (as an incentive) for Derek Turnbow….
Harmpton comparison
Hampton was traded with $110 million left on his contract (counting the $6M buyout for 2009, as listed at Cot’s). Colorado picked up less than half of that ( $49M ) and Florida took on another $23.5M when they shipped him on to Atlanta.
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
I should note
that CO also gave up Juan Pierre (who had a couple of decent years in Florida) and got in return Preston Wilson’s career year, two years of a not-entirely-over-the-hill Charles Johnson, and junk (Vic Darensbourg and Pablo Ozuna).
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
Howie highly doubts that anyone is going to trade for Zito right now.
If you like things that are funny, perhaps you will enjoy ChatterBalks Dot Com?
Yeah, well...
...Barry Zito highly doubts that anyone is going to trade for Howie, either.
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
He's not going anywhere.
Nobody wants to pick up the uncertainty – who wants to pay $110m for a guy who remakes his motion regularly? Any sweetening on the part of the Giants would hamstring the budget for too long to be worth it.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
Not Happening
Why would Zito want to move? There are a number of possible reasons but I have come up with some and why he would choose to go against those reasons.
+Zito might want to move to a contender: Say hes pitching for the Mets, Yanks, or somebody contending. If we already boo and hate him in a place where we are in the “losing” mind-set, then I think far, far worse will happen in a winning mind-set. So No.
+Get closer to home: Well, for one thing, I am not real big on moving him to San Diego cause I dont like inter-division trade. Sweeney for Denker is ok though. Anyhow, hes also been in the bay area for quite a while. I dont think he would move.
+Chage of scenery: Zito has only “gotten her done” in the bay area. I dont think he is thinking he can win another Cy Young in another place. Will the 95 mph fastball appear out of thin air and bam…we have the former CY Winner Barry Zito!
Alas, no Zito trade. and considering that durability is his middle name, get used to him.
This just in: the Giants have traded Barry Zito to the New Jersey Nets for Keith Van Horn’s expiring contract.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
A great deal for the Giants!
Cue the “Can Van Horn play third” joke.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 4, 2008 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
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