Draft VII: The Dark Horsies
We’ve already established that the Giants tend to develop high school hitters as well as they develop Pulitzer-winning playwrights. It’s not entirely fair to keep bringing that up, though, without noting a couple of points:
a. The Giants don’t often draft high school hitters in the first round.
b. They hardly draft high school hitters in the first five rounds.
c. Hardly anyone drafted after the first five rounds – college, high school, vocational school – makes it to the majors from any organization.
In the Brian Sabean era, the Giants drafted Tony Torcato and Arturo McDowell in the first round of the 1998 draft, and they went for Wendell Fairley, Nick Noonan, and Charlie Culberson last year. Those are all of the high school hitters drafted in the first five rounds over the past decade. The first two were busts, and it’s too soon to tell about the last three. The portrayal of the Giants as the natural enemy of teenaged hitters in the wild was greatly exaggerated. My apologies.
So that brings us to two wildcard options for the fifth pick of the draft: Eric Hosmer (1B) and Kyle Skipworth (C). Jim Callis says he’d take Hosmer over any of the college first basemen – his power is supposed to be incredible for a high school kid. Hosmer, not Callis, that is. Callis has middling power, and he’s already out of high school. Hosmer's swing is beautiful. The Rays writer at MVN says Hosmer's swing is a little long, but I’m not seeing the same thing. The swing looks flawless to these untrained eyes. He can hit 95 with his fastball, too, so the Giants can reverse-Ankiel him in the event of organizational failure.
Skipworth is the best high school catching prospect since Joe Mauer. That written, high school catchers are a risky bunch. Mauer is the exception, not the rule. Even if Skipworth hits, he might not stay behind the plate. That was the path of Paul Konerko and Justin Morneau, who were both drafted as catchers out of high school. Both of those hitters eventually justified their selection, but if the Giants are looking for a lefty power bat out of high school and they aren’t sure if Skipworth can play catcher at the big league level, they should just select Hosmer. If the Giants are convinced that Skipworth can stick at catcher, however, he might be at the top of their draft board. Lefty-hitting middle-of-the-order catchers are once-in-a-generation rare.
If the Giants drafted either player, I wouldn’t complain. My initial aversion to high school hitters was unfounded, and there’s something appealing about the Giants building a core of teenaged prospects. Either Skipworth or Hosmer would fit in well with the Noonan/Fairley/Villalona group, as Hosmer is athletic enough to move to the outfield should Villalona develop as expected.
As a fan, I don’t want to wait six years to see the results of this draft. I want instant gratification, and I want it yesterday. I want Justin Smoak to surprise everyone by making the team out of next year’s spring training, and I want him to hit a homer off of Nolan Ryan in his first at-bat. I want Buster Posey to start 2009 in A-ball and put up video game stats all the way through AAA.
Instant gratification isn’t exactly the best way to run an organization, though. So add Hosmer and Skipworth to the pile of players who would interest me with the fifth pick of the draft. I'm easy to please with this draft, folks.
Links:
Eric Hosmer
MLB draft report
Extended video clips of Hosmer’s swing
Another extended video
USA Today profile
Brewerfan profile
MVN profile
IMDB page
Kyle Skipworth
MLB draft report
Brewerfan profile
Baseball America post
MVN profile
Links for both:
BA high school preview
Profiles from a blog named after one of the more notorious high school draft busts in Giants history. (That can’t be a good omen.)
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Can any of these guys play centerfield?
If not, I say NO.
Thanks to all of you for all the draft info. I would love to spend hours researching potential draft picks but just can’t do it with a wife and 2 kids. I enjoy reading the info posted on here.
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Eric Hosmer
Very talented kid with lots of power. SF must also factor signability into the equation. Love that he can pitch.
This swing was pretty impressive. Looked like he was fooled a bit and just flicked it out to the opposite field.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TqsNf30Gdg&feature=related
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
Unreal
Check out the other Hosmer videos. Sweet, sweet swing.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 2, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The question that comes to mind:
Can Smoak do the Nuschler face after hitting one off Ryan?
Man, this draft is such a toss up with so many conflicting draft predictions. I love it. There are a lot of talented kids at the top of this draft. For some reason I have this nagging feeling that the Giants will f* this up somehow. I hope to God I am wrong.
Hosmer would be my next pick if Alvarez and Smoak were picked up by those 4 teams ahead of the Giants.
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The problem with HS hitters
Isn’t that the Giants suck at developing them – it is that they as a group are so entirely unpredictable.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
Given all the players Grant would be happy with....
...I think he should just cut to the chase and list the players he wouldn’t be happy with.
Also, I’m still waiting for “The Fall of Ryan O’Brian” to end up in the title of one of these draft posts.
All-Father Watch: 1.32 ERA, 5 saves, 0.95 WHIP, 26 Ks in 27 1/3 IP
All the Pretty Dark Horsies
great book.
If the Giants pass on Hosmer, hopefully it doesn’t turn out like the Dubs passing on Garnett.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
“Hooray Joe Smith!”
argh
About as Alex Smith as you can get.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jun 2, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Hosmer
I think Hosmer would be the better pick over Smoak. At this point, the Giants need upside more than immediate impact (we can’t expect to plug one whole and start winning). My only fear is that Smoak will leave for free agency before the rest of the talent in the low minors gets to the majors. Hosmer and Villalona could make a formidable middle of the lineup for years to come.
I think sometimes the “moneyball”-ing around here goes a bit too far. Yes, it’s cheaper to win with a lot of young players, a la the Florida Marlins. But it’s not like the Giants are a small market team. If we develop a guy like Smoak, ownership can probably afford to keep him. It’s kind of immaterial because the Giants haven’t developed much young talent recently, but when’s the last time a young Giant who the team really would’ve liked to keep left for a richer deal elsewhere?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 2, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
... and yeah, I think I’d prefer Smoak to Hosmer just because I, personally, don’t see that much difference between their upsides, whereas at this point Smoak has a much higher floor.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 2, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure there’s much reason to have concern over losing Smoak before the rest of the talent in the low minors gets to the majors. He’s a year behind them & whilst he may well get to the majors before them he’s got 6-7 years before he reaches free agency. If you consider the best case scenario of only a year for Smoak in the minors, that gives the talent in the low minors 8-9 years to reach the majors from being drafted, before he reaches free agency. If they don’t make it by then, then they’re probably not going to make it at all!
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I'd be really happy with either
Smoak or Hosmer.
Hosmer may have a higher ceiling as you say (although both have great potential), a chance to play the outfield, and if all else fails, the chance to pitch, but Smoak has proven himself at a higher level of competition.
After Alvarez, I’m torn between Hosmer and Smoak, but I would have to go with the latter for the reason mentioned.
I don’t think the possible free agency of any 2008 draftee should be a reason not to select that player. If that player turns out to be good enough to warrant widespread interest on the free agent market it means we have drafted well, and that we should look to trade that player if his loss to free agency is inevitable.
please oh please
anything but Gordon Beckham
he has dud written all over him
waiting for 2011....
you know what's sad?
my expectations are so low for this franchise right now that i would be happy with a long list of position players right now, because in two years, that player might be the best player on the field for the Giants. starting with Smoak
Both players were probably a bit lower on my preferences, but i’ve warmed to them & both seem to have more upside over some of the other choices. I’d still prefer Alvarez & Smoak if they were available, but i’d be happy if we chose either of these dark horses.
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