Major Love from KLaw
by tyrannoman on Jun 19, 2008 2:54 PM PDT
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Adam J. Morris (Houston, Texas): Smoak, Chris Davis, or Max Ramirez? And does any other team have three pure hitting prospects as good as those three? 
Keith Law: Smoak, Davis, Ramirez. The Rangers' system is stacked. Other orgs ... no, you may be right on that one. Giants could make a case if you want to project on Villalona and give them Posey and Gillaspie
From Keith Law's chat today on espn.com. Looks like our buds in orange and black are treding in the right direction on the farm. Law also reiterates in the chat that he ranks the Giants' farm system in the top 5 in the game. Nice little change, eh?
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So that KLaw and the Fantastic Four comic might be true. Villalona, Posey, Gillasie…Quirarte? Did Law like him too?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 19, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
*Gillaspie
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 19, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Adam could have followed up, he would have said, “Good points, Keith. People should go to Lone Star Ball and McCovey Chronicles to debate the merits of each system!”, but the chat format didn’t allow for it.
by Grant on Jun 19, 2008 3:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think one of your links is broken.
I was THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jun 19, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
The one for Lone Star Ball takes me to some Rangers blog instead of the blog about the annual dance where everyone dresses as a character from Spaceballs.
by Natto on Jun 19, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Pizza the Hut be there?
Adopted brother of the AnVil / GIANTSPACE™ returns!
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 19, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so what will i do for the other 29 minutes?
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
by daveinexile on Jun 19, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight, Pizza is ordering out for you.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 20, 2008 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so is anyone besides Law saying good things about the system?
by slojoe on Jun 19, 2008 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure other people will say good things, but I don’t think we are a top-5 system like Law says. I haven’t seen anyone else praise us that highly.
by xanthan on Jun 19, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least someone is saying it. That’s much more than we could have expected in years past.
Only 900 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jun 19, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats kind of what i thought....everytime someone starts a thread
on here about so and so likes the Giants’ system, its always Law…..step in the right direction though
by slojoe on Jun 19, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Law is a smart man with a lot on the ball. What’s the problem?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 19, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing, would like to hear others saying the same thing before i get excited
by slojoe on Jun 19, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
Knowing how much the other pundits love to slam the Giants with their heads planted firmly up their own asses, I don’t see a dramatic turnaround from any of them anytime soon.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 19, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which pundits have unfairly slammed us and our farm system?
by xanthan on Jun 20, 2008 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To add, I always see people say that BP has a Giants bias, which is totally wrong. They’ve been critical of us but they’ve also praised us as well. Kevin Goldstein praised our draft picks and the direction our system was heading pretty solidly in BP’s Roundtable Draft Discussion.
I’m not seeing the bias.
by xanthan on Jun 20, 2008 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
And I never give one of those.
If they had their heads planted firmly up their own asses, they would miss things like the Zito signing and the Bocockatastrophe of 08’. The people at BP disagree with a lot of the decisions the Giants make, but that doesn’t mean they’re biased. It just means that they disagree with a lot of the decisions the Giants make. When they don’t, they have no problem saying it:
“The Giants pop Brandon Crawford here in the fourth, and I think it’s a fabulous selection. Crawford is incredibly raw for someone his age, but he has some really nice tools. After going for sure bets in Buster Posey and Conor Gillaspie, Crawford is the perfect type of complement. Throw in Roger Kieschnick, who was once considered a first round right fielder, and it’s possible - not likely, but possible - the Giants just filled half their future.”
Kevin Goldstein admitted the he “really like[s] the Giants draft”.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jun 20, 2008 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya there’s KG too, and I was wondering why he hadn’t come up yet.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 20, 2008 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP generally levels criticism fairly. The only writer there that I would accuse of having an irrational anti-SF bias is Joe Sheehan.
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on Jun 20, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t always agree with Sheehan but he’s, what, one writer out of 15? 20?
by xanthan on Jun 20, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was one article out not too long ago about this year’s draft winners, and the source didn’t even mention the Giants, despite what we’ve been hearing. I wouldn’t count that as a slam per se, but not mentioning the Giants at all for drafting well was a pretty dumb move.
Then there’s Rotoworld and their continous misinformation about the Giants players. The description of Hinshaw’s stuff, for example. I count blatant misinformation like that as disrespect, because the person writing it didn’t even try to find the correct answer and just wrote whatever shit he felt like. At the very least he could have just opted not to mention anything about the lefty’s repertoire at all. At least he wouldn’t be incorrect.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 20, 2008 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was one article out not too long ago about this year’s draft winners, and the source didn’t even mention the Giants, despite what we’ve been hearing. I wouldn’t count that as a slam per se, but not mentioning the Giants at all for drafting well was a pretty dumb move.
Here’s my thing about that. BP is a collective of many different writers, different people, and they’ll disagree sometimes on different things. KG might have loved the draft but the other guy might not have and if he listed his reasons intelligently and logically, that’s fine and good. But I doubt anyone is “lul giants sux”. I think people sometimes think BP is one person or one entity, and it’s not, it’s several different people with different attitudes, opinions, beliefs, etc.
As for Rotoworld, it’s a snarky fantasy baseball sight that’s not even in the same realm of BP, BA, THT, BBTF (hello acronym hell). I could care less when they miss a fact or make a statement because it’s freaking Rotoworld not Bill James.
by xanthan on Jun 20, 2008 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted one of those threads of Law praising the Giants and my whole point was that yes it’s only one guy and we should take one guy’s opinion to mean all that much. But given where the farm system was just a couple of years ago I think the fact that we’ve gotten to a point where ANYBODY worth a damn could even suggest we were in the top 5 is something worth getting excited about.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 19, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 20, 2008 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
based on promotions and injuries and other things, I see no reason why the Giants can’t contend for a top 5 spot. I figure Oakland, Boston, Tampa Bay, Texas, SF, Baltimore, and the Yankees will be fighting for the top 5 just based on promotions to the ML’s, prospect dropoff, and injuries etc. Also projection is taken into account, as always.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 21, 2008 3:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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